Re: Looking for GFCF SCD legal yohgurt?

[Guest guest]

Ron,

I am wondering if there is a problem with nuts because there are

a couple of nut yogurt recipes on pecanbread.com that seem to

fit your requirements.

You can get dairy free yogurt starter from GI ProHealth. It's called

Progurt and you can order it here.

http://www.giprohealth.com

Elaine doesn't dislike Kefir, but she says that it's not really for

new people. It's more of an advanced type of food.

The nut yogurt would be a good place to start.

Jody

mom to -6 and -8

SCD 23 months

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi all,

>

> Maybe the title is not accurate, but this is what I need help on:

>

> My son has been on the SCD for 2 months, but since he is also GFCF he

> has not had any yohgurt or fermented mixtures. I have been told that

> he needs to get some kind of a fermented mixture with the beneficial

> cultures in him for him to really get the benefits of the SCD.

>

> Have been directed to the Body Ecology Diet website to look at

> Grainfields B.E. Wholegrain Liquid as a possible source, but the

> first ingredients in it were malt and wheat. I am thinking about the

> Kefir Starter that are offered on the same website, here's the

> ingredients (from the Body Ecology Diet website

> https://www9.mailordercentral.com/bodyecologydiet/prodinfo.asp?

> number=BE010 & variation= & aitem=1 & mitem=8):

>

> Body Ecology Kefir Starter contains the following beneficial

> bacteria: Lactococcus lactis, lactococcus cremoris, Lactococcus

> diacetyl lactis, Leuconostoc mesenteroides, Lactobacillus Kefyr

> (thermophilic), Klyveromyces marxianus var. marxianus, and

> Saccharomyces unisporus, dextrose as a carrier (not from corn).

>

> Is this Kefir legal? If so, has anybody used it? If not legal, does

> anyone have any suggestions?

Ron,

The kefir starter contains dextrose which is illegal on SCD.

(Although you are free to pursue whatever diet you wish SCD does not employ the

protocols of Body Ecology or GFCF)

However, SCD does include fermented vegetables like home made sauerkraut if that

is any help to you.

In " Breaking the Vicious Cycle, Elaine Gottschall explains that Dr. Haas, who

originated the diet recommended it to her for her child. At the time, Elaine

found an acceptable sauerkraut at a particular deli in New York.

Elaine wrote on her website:

I just went to a search engine to find Kimchi and it appears to be simply

wonderful for SCD™. It is pickled, fermented vegetables, usually cucumbers,

cabbage, etc. As always, it depends how it is made. As long as it is not

thickened with starchlike thickeners and sweetened with additional sweetener, it

sounds simply great. However, like all raw veggies and fruits, when starting the

diet, take it easy, a bit at a time. It sounds like a great food.

Carol F.

SCD 4yrs, Celiac

[Guest guest]

Hi Carolyn,

Thanks for the input, my husband posted this question regarding our

son. Our son was on the gfcf and soy free diet for 6 months without

much improvement, and we have been on the SCD (dairy free) for a

couple of months and can't seem to make a dent yet with the

bacteria/yeast. It was suggested by out DAN doctor to use fermented

foods to get the benefit of this diet, and it sounds like the only

one that will be OK for our son will be the fermented vegetables. I

will look into getting these, any suggestions would be much

appreciated. Thanks -nne

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > Maybe the title is not accurate, but this is what I need help on:

> >

> > My son has been on the SCD for 2 months, but since he is also

GFCF he

> > has not had any yohgurt or fermented mixtures. I have been told

that

> > he needs to get some kind of a fermented mixture with the

beneficial

> > cultures in him for him to really get the benefits of the SCD.

> >

> > Have been directed to the Body Ecology Diet website to look at

> > Grainfields B.E. Wholegrain Liquid as a possible source, but the

> > first ingredients in it were malt and wheat. I am thinking about

the

> > Kefir Starter that are offered on the same website, here's the

> > ingredients (from the Body Ecology Diet website

> > https://www9.mailordercentral.com/bodyecologydiet/prodinfo.asp?

> > number=BE010 & variation= & aitem=1 & mitem=8):

> >

> > Body Ecology Kefir Starter contains the following beneficial

> > bacteria: Lactococcus lactis, lactococcus cremoris, Lactococcus

> > diacetyl lactis, Leuconostoc mesenteroides, Lactobacillus Kefyr

> > (thermophilic), Klyveromyces marxianus var. marxianus, and

> > Saccharomyces unisporus, dextrose as a carrier (not from corn).

> >

> > Is this Kefir legal? If so, has anybody used it? If not legal,

does

> > anyone have any suggestions?

>

> Ron,

> The kefir starter contains dextrose which is illegal on SCD.

> (Although you are free to pursue whatever diet you wish SCD does

not employ the protocols of Body Ecology or GFCF)

>

> However, SCD does include fermented vegetables like home made

sauerkraut if that is any help to you.

> In " Breaking the Vicious Cycle, Elaine Gottschall explains that Dr.

Haas, who originated the diet recommended it to her for her child. At

the time, Elaine found an acceptable sauerkraut at a particular deli

in New York.

>

> Elaine wrote on her website:

>

> I just went to a search engine to find Kimchi and it appears to be

simply wonderful for SCD™. It is pickled, fermented vegetables,

usually cucumbers, cabbage, etc. As always, it depends how it is

made. As long as it is not thickened with starchlike thickeners and

sweetened with additional sweetener, it sounds simply great. However,

like all raw veggies and fruits, when starting the diet, take it

easy, a bit at a time. It sounds like a great food.

>

> Carol F.

> SCD 4yrs, Celiac

[Guest guest]

Hi Carolyn,

Thanks for the input, my husband posted this question regarding our

son. Our son was on the gfcf and soy free diet for 6 months without

much improvement, and we have been on the SCD (dairy free) for a

couple of months and can't seem to make a dent yet with the

bacteria/yeast. It was suggested by out DAN doctor to use fermented

foods to get the benefit of this diet, and it sounds like the only

one that will be OK for our son will be the fermented vegetables. I

will look into getting these, any suggestions would be much

appreciated. Thanks -nne

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > Maybe the title is not accurate, but this is what I need help on:

> >

> > My son has been on the SCD for 2 months, but since he is also

GFCF he

> > has not had any yohgurt or fermented mixtures. I have been told

that

> > he needs to get some kind of a fermented mixture with the

beneficial

> > cultures in him for him to really get the benefits of the SCD.

> >

> > Have been directed to the Body Ecology Diet website to look at

> > Grainfields B.E. Wholegrain Liquid as a possible source, but the

> > first ingredients in it were malt and wheat. I am thinking about

the

> > Kefir Starter that are offered on the same website, here's the

> > ingredients (from the Body Ecology Diet website

> > https://www9.mailordercentral.com/bodyecologydiet/prodinfo.asp?

> > number=BE010 & variation= & aitem=1 & mitem=8):

> >

> > Body Ecology Kefir Starter contains the following beneficial

> > bacteria: Lactococcus lactis, lactococcus cremoris, Lactococcus

> > diacetyl lactis, Leuconostoc mesenteroides, Lactobacillus Kefyr

> > (thermophilic), Klyveromyces marxianus var. marxianus, and

> > Saccharomyces unisporus, dextrose as a carrier (not from corn).

> >

> > Is this Kefir legal? If so, has anybody used it? If not legal,

does

> > anyone have any suggestions?

>

> Ron,

> The kefir starter contains dextrose which is illegal on SCD.

> (Although you are free to pursue whatever diet you wish SCD does

not employ the protocols of Body Ecology or GFCF)

>

> However, SCD does include fermented vegetables like home made

sauerkraut if that is any help to you.

> In " Breaking the Vicious Cycle, Elaine Gottschall explains that Dr.

Haas, who originated the diet recommended it to her for her child. At

the time, Elaine found an acceptable sauerkraut at a particular deli

in New York.

>

> Elaine wrote on her website:

>

> I just went to a search engine to find Kimchi and it appears to be

simply wonderful for SCD™. It is pickled, fermented vegetables,

usually cucumbers, cabbage, etc. As always, it depends how it is

made. As long as it is not thickened with starchlike thickeners and

sweetened with additional sweetener, it sounds simply great. However,

like all raw veggies and fruits, when starting the diet, take it

easy, a bit at a time. It sounds like a great food.

>

> Carol F.

> SCD 4yrs, Celiac

[Guest guest]

Hi nne and Ron,

I think you may have missed Jody's reply to your post

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/message/27239

You also have the option of fermented nut milk (aka making nut

yogurt). Depending on the shape of your son's gut this may be

gentler than eating fermented vegetables. Although you can pour off

the juice of the feremnted vegetables until your child is ready to

try some of the veggies. Whichever you decide to try just remember

to start small because both are powerful and can cause more die-off.

Also concerning the bacteria/yeast problem you may want to check out

the Yeast and SCD file at

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/files/

Lastly,

Are all of his fruits and veggies peeled, deseeded and cooked? If

not, they may still be feeding the bad microorganisms.

HTH,

Sheila 46 mos SCD, 20 yrs UC

mom of SCD 31 mos

> Hi Carolyn,

> Thanks for the input, my husband posted this question regarding

our

> son. Our son was on the gfcf and soy free diet for 6 months

without

> much improvement, and we have been on the SCD (dairy free) for a

> couple of months and can't seem to make a dent yet with the

> bacteria/yeast. It was suggested by out DAN doctor to use

fermented

> foods to get the benefit of this diet, and it sounds like the only

> one that will be OK for our son will be the fermented vegetables.

I

> will look into getting these, any suggestions would be much

> appreciated. Thanks -nne

>