Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 - what now, is just wait. CHARGE is still a clinical diagnosis - based on the features the kids have, not the DNA results. I realize it must be a little diappointing to not find a CHD7 mutation in Carmen. Butreally, kids like Carmen are really important for us to find out more. Michigan is one of theresearch centers - they will keep looking for other possible genes for CHARGE and re-test Carmen's DNA when anything else comes up. In fact. her DNA might be helpful infinding other genes 9or other ways to look ath the CHD7 gene) for CHARGE. As a geneticist, I thank you for participating in research. Meg Meg Hefner MS Genetic Counselor St. Louis MO meg@... > > Hi all, > > Carmen was a participant in a study at the U of M (Michigan) for the > CHD7 testing. They did not find the mutation. I know this doesn't > mean she doesn't have another mutation elsewhere that could be found > later to relate to CHARGE--but I'm just wondering, what now? Anything? > > Thanks, B., mom to Zachary 4.5 years and Carmen 20 months > (CHARGE) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 - what now, is just wait. CHARGE is still a clinical diagnosis - based on the features the kids have, not the DNA results. I realize it must be a little diappointing to not find a CHD7 mutation in Carmen. Butreally, kids like Carmen are really important for us to find out more. Michigan is one of theresearch centers - they will keep looking for other possible genes for CHARGE and re-test Carmen's DNA when anything else comes up. In fact. her DNA might be helpful infinding other genes 9or other ways to look ath the CHD7 gene) for CHARGE. As a geneticist, I thank you for participating in research. Meg Meg Hefner MS Genetic Counselor St. Louis MO meg@... > > Hi all, > > Carmen was a participant in a study at the U of M (Michigan) for the > CHD7 testing. They did not find the mutation. I know this doesn't > mean she doesn't have another mutation elsewhere that could be found > later to relate to CHARGE--but I'm just wondering, what now? Anything? > > Thanks, B., mom to Zachary 4.5 years and Carmen 20 months > (CHARGE) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 - what now, is just wait. CHARGE is still a clinical diagnosis - based on the features the kids have, not the DNA results. I realize it must be a little diappointing to not find a CHD7 mutation in Carmen. Butreally, kids like Carmen are really important for us to find out more. Michigan is one of theresearch centers - they will keep looking for other possible genes for CHARGE and re-test Carmen's DNA when anything else comes up. In fact. her DNA might be helpful infinding other genes 9or other ways to look ath the CHD7 gene) for CHARGE. As a geneticist, I thank you for participating in research. Meg Meg Hefner MS Genetic Counselor St. Louis MO meg@... > > Hi all, > > Carmen was a participant in a study at the U of M (Michigan) for the > CHD7 testing. They did not find the mutation. I know this doesn't > mean she doesn't have another mutation elsewhere that could be found > later to relate to CHARGE--but I'm just wondering, what now? Anything? > > Thanks, B., mom to Zachary 4.5 years and Carmen 20 months > (CHARGE) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 wll neither have many others on here LOL > > - what now, is just wait. CHARGE is still a clinical > diagnosis - based on the features the kids have, not the DNA results. > I realize it must be a little diappointing to not find a CHD7 mutation > in Carmen. Butreally, kids like Carmen are really important for us to > find out more. Michigan is one of theresearch centers - they will keep > looking for other possible genes for CHARGE and re-test Carmen's DNA > when anything else comes up. In fact. her DNA might be helpful > infinding other genes 9or other ways to look ath the CHD7 gene) for > CHARGE. As a geneticist, I thank you for participating in research. > Meg > > Meg Hefner MS > Genetic Counselor > St. Louis MO meg@... > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > Carmen was a participant in a study at the U of M (Michigan) for the > > CHD7 testing. They did not find the mutation. I know this doesn't > > mean she doesn't have another mutation elsewhere that could be found > > later to relate to CHARGE--but I'm just wondering, what now? Anything? > > > > Thanks, B., mom to Zachary 4.5 years and Carmen 20 months > > (CHARGE) > > > > > > > > > CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE: > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995 > > Membership of this email support group does not constitute membership in > the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation; for information about the CHARGE Syndrome > Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter), > please contact marion@... or visit > the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org > > 8th International > CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at > www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Try not to be too dissapointed for not having the gene, I havent seen a picture of her but ive seen other kids who dont have the gene and they soooooo look like charge kids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Try not to be too dissapointed for not having the gene, I havent seen a picture of her but ive seen other kids who dont have the gene and they soooooo look like charge kids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 , Don't give up hope. There is most likely another gene for CHARGE that just hasn't been discovered yet. And then you can enroll in that study. (mom to Evan 8 mos) wrote: Hi all, Carmen was a participant in a study at the U of M (Michigan) for the CHD7 testing. They did not find the mutation. I know this doesn't mean she doesn't have another mutation elsewhere that could be found later to relate to CHARGE--but I'm just wondering, what now? Anything? Thanks, B., mom to Zachary 4.5 years and Carmen 20 months (CHARGE) CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE: http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995 Membership of this email support group does not constitute membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation; for information about the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter), please contact marion@... or visit the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org 8th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Kim, Are you saying they found a mutation elsewhere? My son Mark has an appointment in Ann Arbor is July I was thinking of calling this Dr Green beforehand. Mark is 22 now. At one point long ago a Genetics Dr doing a study took all our blood looking for a syndrome on my husbands side of the family I think it was Wardensberg or something like that. I was at work when he called back and he said at that time he was going to take another look at my husbands and Marks but we lost track of him. HARD to believe but true. Anyway I was just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Just to add a thought to the discussion -- another mutation can be quite meaningless. Not to burst any bubbles, but just to put some cautious reality into the wonderings. With Aubrie, they found a mutation on the 10th chromosome or something. When they checked, I have it too -- so it was determined to be nothing but a little fluke. Apparently, many of us have little mutations that don't do anything - or might give us some tiny but insignificant quirk. When they find something unusual in our kids, they then check to see if a parent has it. If a parent does, then it must not be CHARGE. If no parent has it, then it may lead the study to see if they can find that in other kids. Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 , yes that is what he said. They found a mutation just not the Charge one they thought they would find. From my min. genetics understanding this could mean they found something or if my husband I have it, it could mean nothing that it is a " normal " mutation since neither my husband nor I have symptoms or it could possible be significant. I don't know exactly how it all goes other then it becomes a blurr to me. We have been doing genetics counseling lately because I find myself pregnant at almost 40. This has come as quite a surprise to us since my husband underwent chemotherapy and a transplant and we were told he was 99.9% sterile. So I thought I had kidney stones and the ultrasound tech said no stones but I have a heartbeat!! Well imagine my surprise! So we are really trying to narrow down the babies chances of also having Charge. Quite frankly I cannot figure it out and should put this in Megs hands because they have told me 50/50, 1 in 4 and less then 2%. And due to my age in general 1 in 43 for any birth defect. So we are just kind of taking it one day at a time. My Charger will be 12 and my oldest will be 17 so we are still processing a new baby idea. And as you know with your charger the issues just keeping changing there is always something to contend with when it comes to raising them. Dr. Green is very patient friendly and he reads his e-mails also so if you need his e-mail address I can forward it to you. My son just had stage 1 of the BAHA implant put in by him. Kim/Michigan Re: Carmen's CHD7 test results Kim, Are you saying they found a mutation elsewhere? My son Mark has an appointment in Ann Arbor is July I was thinking of calling this Dr Green beforehand. Mark is 22 now. At one point long ago a Genetics Dr doing a study took all our blood looking for a syndrome on my husbands side of the family I think it was Wardensberg or something like that. I was at work when he called back and he said at that time he was going to take another look at my husbands and Marks but we lost track of him. HARD to believe but true. Anyway I was just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 , yes that is what he said. They found a mutation just not the Charge one they thought they would find. From my min. genetics understanding this could mean they found something or if my husband I have it, it could mean nothing that it is a " normal " mutation since neither my husband nor I have symptoms or it could possible be significant. I don't know exactly how it all goes other then it becomes a blurr to me. We have been doing genetics counseling lately because I find myself pregnant at almost 40. This has come as quite a surprise to us since my husband underwent chemotherapy and a transplant and we were told he was 99.9% sterile. So I thought I had kidney stones and the ultrasound tech said no stones but I have a heartbeat!! Well imagine my surprise! So we are really trying to narrow down the babies chances of also having Charge. Quite frankly I cannot figure it out and should put this in Megs hands because they have told me 50/50, 1 in 4 and less then 2%. And due to my age in general 1 in 43 for any birth defect. So we are just kind of taking it one day at a time. My Charger will be 12 and my oldest will be 17 so we are still processing a new baby idea. And as you know with your charger the issues just keeping changing there is always something to contend with when it comes to raising them. Dr. Green is very patient friendly and he reads his e-mails also so if you need his e-mail address I can forward it to you. My son just had stage 1 of the BAHA implant put in by him. Kim/Michigan Re: Carmen's CHD7 test results Kim, Are you saying they found a mutation elsewhere? My son Mark has an appointment in Ann Arbor is July I was thinking of calling this Dr Green beforehand. Mark is 22 now. At one point long ago a Genetics Dr doing a study took all our blood looking for a syndrome on my husbands side of the family I think it was Wardensberg or something like that. I was at work when he called back and he said at that time he was going to take another look at my husbands and Marks but we lost track of him. HARD to believe but true. Anyway I was just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 , yes that is what he said. They found a mutation just not the Charge one they thought they would find. From my min. genetics understanding this could mean they found something or if my husband I have it, it could mean nothing that it is a " normal " mutation since neither my husband nor I have symptoms or it could possible be significant. I don't know exactly how it all goes other then it becomes a blurr to me. We have been doing genetics counseling lately because I find myself pregnant at almost 40. This has come as quite a surprise to us since my husband underwent chemotherapy and a transplant and we were told he was 99.9% sterile. So I thought I had kidney stones and the ultrasound tech said no stones but I have a heartbeat!! Well imagine my surprise! So we are really trying to narrow down the babies chances of also having Charge. Quite frankly I cannot figure it out and should put this in Megs hands because they have told me 50/50, 1 in 4 and less then 2%. And due to my age in general 1 in 43 for any birth defect. So we are just kind of taking it one day at a time. My Charger will be 12 and my oldest will be 17 so we are still processing a new baby idea. And as you know with your charger the issues just keeping changing there is always something to contend with when it comes to raising them. Dr. Green is very patient friendly and he reads his e-mails also so if you need his e-mail address I can forward it to you. My son just had stage 1 of the BAHA implant put in by him. Kim/Michigan Re: Carmen's CHD7 test results Kim, Are you saying they found a mutation elsewhere? My son Mark has an appointment in Ann Arbor is July I was thinking of calling this Dr Green beforehand. Mark is 22 now. At one point long ago a Genetics Dr doing a study took all our blood looking for a syndrome on my husbands side of the family I think it was Wardensberg or something like that. I was at work when he called back and he said at that time he was going to take another look at my husbands and Marks but we lost track of him. HARD to believe but true. Anyway I was just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Kim- I just read about your new pregnancy. Eegads. I can't even imagine such a surprise! I think the recurrence risk for CHARGE is 2% or so according to the manual. I know it's easy to say, but I don't think it's anymore a risk than it was when you had the first one. Maternal age doesn't appear to be a factor in CHARGE. However, I remember that they decided paternal age may be a factor -- quite to my delight in letting go of some guilt and shifting it right over to my hubby knowing it won't bother him in the least ;-) With all the issues of your husband (who I'm glad is fine, BTW!), your age, and having a child with CHARGE already, I'm sure your head is spinning. Pregnant women have natural worries anyway... but talk about compounding it, huh? I hope the shock will wear off and leave nothing but joy, a delightful pregnancy, an easy delivery, and a " medically unremarkable " baby. And if you're given any hiccups along the way, I hope you and your family can use all the strength you've surely developed on your journey so far to get through it just fine. So - congratulations! Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Michele W. Thank you for the lovely thoughts. Life is always full of surprizes. I guess for us the percent thing makes us nervous...for instance my husband had less then 10% survival and he lived and then this baby thing less then 1% gees! Kim/Michigan RE: Carmen's CHD7 test results Kim- I just read about your new pregnancy. Eegads. I can't even imagine such a surprise! I think the recurrence risk for CHARGE is 2% or so according to the manual. I know it's easy to say, but I don't think it's anymore a risk than it was when you had the first one. Maternal age doesn't appear to be a factor in CHARGE. However, I remember that they decided paternal age may be a factor -- quite to my delight in letting go of some guilt and shifting it right over to my hubby knowing it won't bother him in the least ;-) With all the issues of your husband (who I'm glad is fine, BTW!), your age, and having a child with CHARGE already, I'm sure your head is spinning. Pregnant women have natural worries anyway... but talk about compounding it, huh? I hope the shock will wear off and leave nothing but joy, a delightful pregnancy, an easy delivery, and a " medically unremarkable " baby. And if you're given any hiccups along the way, I hope you and your family can use all the strength you've surely developed on your journey so far to get through it just fine. So - congratulations! Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE: http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995 Membership of this email support group does not constitute membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation; for information about the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter), please contact marion@... or visit the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org 8th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Let's hope you're in the opposite side of the percentages this time! Just figure you will always get the good outcome despite the odds! Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ " I guess for us the percent thing makes us nervous...for instance my husband had less then 10% survival and he lived and then this baby thing less then 1% gees! " Kim/Michigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Let's hope you're in the opposite side of the percentages this time! Just figure you will always get the good outcome despite the odds! Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ " I guess for us the percent thing makes us nervous...for instance my husband had less then 10% survival and he lived and then this baby thing less then 1% gees! " Kim/Michigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Michele that is what my daughter said too!! Kim/Michigan RE: Carmen's CHD7 test results Let's hope you're in the opposite side of the percentages this time! Just figure you will always get the good outcome despite the odds! Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ " I guess for us the percent thing makes us nervous...for instance my husband had less then 10% survival and he lived and then this baby thing less then 1% gees! " Kim/Michigan CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE: http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995 Membership of this email support group does not constitute membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation; for information about the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter), please contact marion@... or visit the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org 8th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Michele that is what my daughter said too!! Kim/Michigan RE: Carmen's CHD7 test results Let's hope you're in the opposite side of the percentages this time! Just figure you will always get the good outcome despite the odds! Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ " I guess for us the percent thing makes us nervous...for instance my husband had less then 10% survival and he lived and then this baby thing less then 1% gees! " Kim/Michigan CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE: http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995 Membership of this email support group does not constitute membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation; for information about the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter), please contact marion@... or visit the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org 8th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Michele that is what my daughter said too!! Kim/Michigan RE: Carmen's CHD7 test results Let's hope you're in the opposite side of the percentages this time! Just figure you will always get the good outcome despite the odds! Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ " I guess for us the percent thing makes us nervous...for instance my husband had less then 10% survival and he lived and then this baby thing less then 1% gees! " Kim/Michigan CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE: http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995 Membership of this email support group does not constitute membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation; for information about the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter), please contact marion@... or visit the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org 8th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 " We have been doing genetics counseling lately because I find myself pregnant at almost 40. This has come as quite a surprise to us since my husband underwent chemotherapy and a transplant and we were told he was 99.9% sterile. So I thought I had kidney stones and the ultrasound tech said no stones but I have a heartbeat!! Well imagine my surprise! " Congradulations Kim...what an amazing, miraculous surprise. I am praying for an uneventful pregnancy & birth for you. Hugs, (mom to Evan 8 mos) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 " We have been doing genetics counseling lately because I find myself pregnant at almost 40. This has come as quite a surprise to us since my husband underwent chemotherapy and a transplant and we were told he was 99.9% sterile. So I thought I had kidney stones and the ultrasound tech said no stones but I have a heartbeat!! Well imagine my surprise! " Congradulations Kim...what an amazing, miraculous surprise. I am praying for an uneventful pregnancy & birth for you. Hugs, (mom to Evan 8 mos) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Kim, WOW what news! YIKES. That must have been a real shocker. I am wishing you the best Closer to our Ann Arbor date I might request his e mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Kim, WOW what news! YIKES. That must have been a real shocker. I am wishing you the best Closer to our Ann Arbor date I might request his e mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Kim, WOW what news! YIKES. That must have been a real shocker. I am wishing you the best Closer to our Ann Arbor date I might request his e mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Kim, Congratulations on the new pregnancy - as Michele said I am sure your head is spinning. Hope you get it all figured out to a point that you can feel comfortable moving forward. Kim > Kim- > I just read about your new pregnancy. Eegads. I can't even imagine such a > surprise! I think the recurrence risk for CHARGE is 2% or so according to > the manual. I know it's easy to say, but I don't think it's anymore a risk > than it was when you had the first one. Maternal age doesn't appear to be a > factor in CHARGE. However, I remember that they decided paternal age may be > a factor -- quite to my delight in letting go of some guilt and shifting it > right over to my hubby knowing it won't bother him in the least ;-) > > With all the issues of your husband (who I'm glad is fine, BTW!), your age, > and having a child with CHARGE already, I'm sure your head is spinning. > Pregnant women have natural worries anyway... but talk about compounding it, > huh? > > I hope the shock will wear off and leave nothing but joy, a delightful > pregnancy, an easy delivery, and a " medically unremarkable " baby. And if > you're given any hiccups along the way, I hope you and your family can use > all the strength you've surely developed on your journey so far to get > through it just fine. So - congratulations! > > Michele W > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > > > CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE: > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995 > > Membership of this email support group does not constitute membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation; for information about the CHARGE Syndrome > Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter), > please contact marion@... or visit > the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org > > 8th International > CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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