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The problem that I have with Cprint is that it is a summary of information

taught to the class, not a verbatim translation. A summary is only as good

as the summarizer and their knowledge. The child is also denied access to

the nuances of comments made and the interactions between the class

participants, except on a summary level. This also means that there is a

reduction of vocabulary that is learned because they are not receiving the

direct information in its complete context. For example, the teacher might

say... " In 1492, Columbus, on an expeditious journey to the West

Indies, discovered the economically isolated country of the United States.

A Cprint of this would say....In 1492, Columbus, looking for the

West Indies, discovered the U.S. Now, did the child learn what

" expeditious " meant, " economically isolated " or get the visual image that

was produced by these words. (Note..the words don't actually make much

sense in my ex) While the child learned the main information, they missed

out on a large amount of subtelties.

My son has a CART reporter, a court stenographer, who types, verbatim, what

is said. He has access to every word that is said, not just summaries of

the information. I agree that Cprint is valuable, however, it pales in

comparison to CART for students with excellent and rapid reading skills.

Cprint would probably be more beneficial for children with reduced reading

speeds or skills as there is less to read so in that case, I believe it

would probably be better as long as the individuals providing the Cprint are

competent. My son would be lost with Cprint as he'd miss so much of

importance in the class. He speed reads, so he looks up at the board to see

what the teacher is saying, then glances over to the CART reporter's laptop

(who is sitting next to him) to catch the paragraph of what was just said,

then looks up to the board/teacher again. He has thrived since they

implemented CART in 6th grade. His reporter has even adapted her system for

the Japanese Class he takes at Towson University to type the Romanji

(american phonetic version) for the Japanese. She ends up having to do some

summarization in this class for him just because of the rate that the

Japanese teacher speaks and her need to process a foreign language and then

type it, when she is learning the language along with us. I think that any

kind of visual modality helps a child who can't hear. To me, the top of the

list is CART, for a child with good reading skills. It's like watching the

closed captioning on the news, only twice as good, because my son's CART

reporters are competent and rarely make the stupid mistakes you see on the

television. They are smart and notice if a typo doesn't make sense.

I'm glad that your daughter has Cprint to help her and I believe that she'd

be lost without it. You might want to reassess as she moves into higher

grades as it gets harder and harder to summarize as the information gets

more complex.

Re: move to 504?

> Hi ,

> I just wanted to comment and give our exerience with c-print.

It

> must depend on who does the c-print. My duaghter uses it in the 5th grade

and

> out experience has been wonderful. The person doing it is great and we get

the

> notes everyday to go over what happened in class and study for tests ect.

I

> think my daughter would be lost without it.

>

>

>

>

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Hi

The problem that I have with Cprint is that it is a summary of information

taught to the class, not a verbatim translation. A summary is only as good

as the summarizer and their knowledge. The child is also denied access to

the nuances of comments made and the interactions between the class

participants, except on a summary level. This also means that there is a

reduction of vocabulary that is learned because they are not receiving the

direct information in its complete context. For example, the teacher might

say... " In 1492, Columbus, on an expeditious journey to the West

Indies, discovered the economically isolated country of the United States.

A Cprint of this would say....In 1492, Columbus, looking for the

West Indies, discovered the U.S. Now, did the child learn what

" expeditious " meant, " economically isolated " or get the visual image that

was produced by these words. (Note..the words don't actually make much

sense in my ex) While the child learned the main information, they missed

out on a large amount of subtelties.

My son has a CART reporter, a court stenographer, who types, verbatim, what

is said. He has access to every word that is said, not just summaries of

the information. I agree that Cprint is valuable, however, it pales in

comparison to CART for students with excellent and rapid reading skills.

Cprint would probably be more beneficial for children with reduced reading

speeds or skills as there is less to read so in that case, I believe it

would probably be better as long as the individuals providing the Cprint are

competent. My son would be lost with Cprint as he'd miss so much of

importance in the class. He speed reads, so he looks up at the board to see

what the teacher is saying, then glances over to the CART reporter's laptop

(who is sitting next to him) to catch the paragraph of what was just said,

then looks up to the board/teacher again. He has thrived since they

implemented CART in 6th grade. His reporter has even adapted her system for

the Japanese Class he takes at Towson University to type the Romanji

(american phonetic version) for the Japanese. She ends up having to do some

summarization in this class for him just because of the rate that the

Japanese teacher speaks and her need to process a foreign language and then

type it, when she is learning the language along with us. I think that any

kind of visual modality helps a child who can't hear. To me, the top of the

list is CART, for a child with good reading skills. It's like watching the

closed captioning on the news, only twice as good, because my son's CART

reporters are competent and rarely make the stupid mistakes you see on the

television. They are smart and notice if a typo doesn't make sense.

I'm glad that your daughter has Cprint to help her and I believe that she'd

be lost without it. You might want to reassess as she moves into higher

grades as it gets harder and harder to summarize as the information gets

more complex.

Re: move to 504?

> Hi ,

> I just wanted to comment and give our exerience with c-print.

It

> must depend on who does the c-print. My duaghter uses it in the 5th grade

and

> out experience has been wonderful. The person doing it is great and we get

the

> notes everyday to go over what happened in class and study for tests ect.

I

> think my daughter would be lost without it.

>

>

>

>

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Hi

The problem that I have with Cprint is that it is a summary of information

taught to the class, not a verbatim translation. A summary is only as good

as the summarizer and their knowledge. The child is also denied access to

the nuances of comments made and the interactions between the class

participants, except on a summary level. This also means that there is a

reduction of vocabulary that is learned because they are not receiving the

direct information in its complete context. For example, the teacher might

say... " In 1492, Columbus, on an expeditious journey to the West

Indies, discovered the economically isolated country of the United States.

A Cprint of this would say....In 1492, Columbus, looking for the

West Indies, discovered the U.S. Now, did the child learn what

" expeditious " meant, " economically isolated " or get the visual image that

was produced by these words. (Note..the words don't actually make much

sense in my ex) While the child learned the main information, they missed

out on a large amount of subtelties.

My son has a CART reporter, a court stenographer, who types, verbatim, what

is said. He has access to every word that is said, not just summaries of

the information. I agree that Cprint is valuable, however, it pales in

comparison to CART for students with excellent and rapid reading skills.

Cprint would probably be more beneficial for children with reduced reading

speeds or skills as there is less to read so in that case, I believe it

would probably be better as long as the individuals providing the Cprint are

competent. My son would be lost with Cprint as he'd miss so much of

importance in the class. He speed reads, so he looks up at the board to see

what the teacher is saying, then glances over to the CART reporter's laptop

(who is sitting next to him) to catch the paragraph of what was just said,

then looks up to the board/teacher again. He has thrived since they

implemented CART in 6th grade. His reporter has even adapted her system for

the Japanese Class he takes at Towson University to type the Romanji

(american phonetic version) for the Japanese. She ends up having to do some

summarization in this class for him just because of the rate that the

Japanese teacher speaks and her need to process a foreign language and then

type it, when she is learning the language along with us. I think that any

kind of visual modality helps a child who can't hear. To me, the top of the

list is CART, for a child with good reading skills. It's like watching the

closed captioning on the news, only twice as good, because my son's CART

reporters are competent and rarely make the stupid mistakes you see on the

television. They are smart and notice if a typo doesn't make sense.

I'm glad that your daughter has Cprint to help her and I believe that she'd

be lost without it. You might want to reassess as she moves into higher

grades as it gets harder and harder to summarize as the information gets

more complex.

Re: move to 504?

> Hi ,

> I just wanted to comment and give our exerience with c-print.

It

> must depend on who does the c-print. My duaghter uses it in the 5th grade

and

> out experience has been wonderful. The person doing it is great and we get

the

> notes everyday to go over what happened in class and study for tests ect.

I

> think my daughter would be lost without it.

>

>

>

>

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