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Here are the ones I like

http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

http://users.bigpond.net.au/allergydietitian/fi/salicylates-list.html

Phenols general cause behavioral reactions, not digestive problems,

but anything is possible!!

Good luck

Chrystee

Sam

SCD 9 months

> Can someone give me a link or explain exactly what phenols are, and

what foods have it? Jody's last post about honey and phenols made me

curious, because I cannot tolerate honey AT ALL. It's extremely

irritating to my stomach.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> 32, CD, GF since 7-04, insulin resistant/ovarian cysts,

gastroparesis, heart patient since '82. In the gathering

info/experimenting with recipes stage of the diet. Hope to begin SCD soon.

>

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Hi ,

> Can someone give me a link or explain exactly what phenols are,

and what foods have it? Jody's last post about honey and phenols

made me curious, because I cannot tolerate honey AT ALL. It's

extremely irritating to my stomach.

Is the honey clear and pure. Honey that is cloudy can have pollen

in it which is very irritating to the gut. Some honeys that do not

say pure or 100% are cut with corn syrup and/or illegals. (I found

that out the really hard way).

Also when you begin SCD you tolerance of different foods will likely

shift. Foods I was unable to eat preSCD were okay once I cut out

all the nasty complex carbs etc.

Also different honeys have different phenol levels depending on what

plants they are from. But, your reaction to honey doesn't sound

like the traditional phenol reaction that has been posted.

Sheila 45 mos SCD, 20 yrs UC

mom of SCD 30 mos

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Hi ,

> Can someone give me a link or explain exactly what phenols are,

and what foods have it? Jody's last post about honey and phenols

made me curious, because I cannot tolerate honey AT ALL. It's

extremely irritating to my stomach.

Is the honey clear and pure. Honey that is cloudy can have pollen

in it which is very irritating to the gut. Some honeys that do not

say pure or 100% are cut with corn syrup and/or illegals. (I found

that out the really hard way).

Also when you begin SCD you tolerance of different foods will likely

shift. Foods I was unable to eat preSCD were okay once I cut out

all the nasty complex carbs etc.

Also different honeys have different phenol levels depending on what

plants they are from. But, your reaction to honey doesn't sound

like the traditional phenol reaction that has been posted.

Sheila 45 mos SCD, 20 yrs UC

mom of SCD 30 mos

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Hi ,

> Can someone give me a link or explain exactly what phenols are,

and what foods have it? Jody's last post about honey and phenols

made me curious, because I cannot tolerate honey AT ALL. It's

extremely irritating to my stomach.

Is the honey clear and pure. Honey that is cloudy can have pollen

in it which is very irritating to the gut. Some honeys that do not

say pure or 100% are cut with corn syrup and/or illegals. (I found

that out the really hard way).

Also when you begin SCD you tolerance of different foods will likely

shift. Foods I was unable to eat preSCD were okay once I cut out

all the nasty complex carbs etc.

Also different honeys have different phenol levels depending on what

plants they are from. But, your reaction to honey doesn't sound

like the traditional phenol reaction that has been posted.

Sheila 45 mos SCD, 20 yrs UC

mom of SCD 30 mos

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Hi Sheila,

No, it doesn't sound like the typical phenol reaction. At first, I just bought

store bought honey....I think it was from Wal-Mart. Then, my mom got some honey

from a local guy. I had the same reaction, only maybe not quite as severe. I

forgot to mention that my mouth kind of gets itchy when I eat it too.....maybe

it's a true allergy?? I certainly hope not, as that is the only good way to

sweeten on the SCD. And believe me....I have a BIG sweet tooth!

I am not sure what you mean by " clear and pure. " It is lighter than the Wal-Mart

brand, but certainly not transparent or anything. How clear should it be? And

where does one purchase clear and pure honey?

Oh, and the other reason I don't think it's phenol's is that I can eat other

foods that are high in phenols and I do GREAT with them. Like Avacados. I love

them, and they ALWAYS sit well with me. Go figure.

32, CD, GF since 7-04, insulin resistant/ovarian cysts, gastroparesis, heart

patient since '82. In the gathering info/experimenting with recipes stage of the

diet. Hope to begin SCD soon.

Re: Phenols

Hi ,

> Can someone give me a link or explain exactly what phenols are,

and what foods have it? Jody's last post about honey and phenols

made me curious, because I cannot tolerate honey AT ALL. It's

extremely irritating to my stomach.

Is the honey clear and pure. Honey that is cloudy can have pollen

in it which is very irritating to the gut. Some honeys that do not

say pure or 100% are cut with corn syrup and/or illegals. (I found

that out the really hard way).

Also when you begin SCD you tolerance of different foods will likely

shift. Foods I was unable to eat preSCD were okay once I cut out

all the nasty complex carbs etc.

Also different honeys have different phenol levels depending on what

plants they are from. But, your reaction to honey doesn't sound

like the traditional phenol reaction that has been posted.

Sheila 45 mos SCD, 20 yrs UC

mom of SCD 30 mos

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Hi ,

> No, it doesn't sound like the typical phenol reaction. At first, I

just bought store bought honey....I think it was from Wal-Mart.

Then, my mom got some honey from a local guy. I had the same

reaction, only maybe not quite as severe. I forgot to mention that

my mouth kind of gets itchy when I eat it too.....maybe it's a true

allergy?? I certainly hope not, as that is the only good way to

sweeten on the SCD. And believe me....I have a BIG sweet tooth!

Either of these may still contain pollen.

> I am not sure what you mean by " clear and pure. " It is lighter

than the Wal-Mart brand, but certainly not transparent or anything.

How clear should it be? And where does one purchase clear and pure

honey?

The colour depends on what flowers the bees went to.

" Clear " means that it is not cloudy.

The label should say " 100% " and/or " pure " honey.

Sheila 45 mos SCD, 20 yrs UC

mom of SCD 30 mos

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Trella,

I had to go look up Satsumas on Google. I had never heard of

them. They look like small oranges.

How many is " too many' " ?

And can you describe what " freaked out " means?

As for which type of No Fenol to get, any of them are fine.

Jody

mom to -5 and -8

SCD 22 months

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I would not give her any more for a long while with that type of

response.

What happens when she eats apples and other brightly colored

fruits or when she drinks apple cider and grape juice?

You mentioned that she had been so much more calm on the

diet... it makes it seem like the issue might be just with this one

particular food rather than all phenols unless you had been

restricting her phenol intake all this time.

Jody

mom to -5 and -8

SCD 22 months

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I would not give her any more for a long while with that type of

response.

What happens when she eats apples and other brightly colored

fruits or when she drinks apple cider and grape juice?

You mentioned that she had been so much more calm on the

diet... it makes it seem like the issue might be just with this one

particular food rather than all phenols unless you had been

restricting her phenol intake all this time.

Jody

mom to -5 and -8

SCD 22 months

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I would not give her any more for a long while with that type of

response.

What happens when she eats apples and other brightly colored

fruits or when she drinks apple cider and grape juice?

You mentioned that she had been so much more calm on the

diet... it makes it seem like the issue might be just with this one

particular food rather than all phenols unless you had been

restricting her phenol intake all this time.

Jody

mom to -5 and -8

SCD 22 months

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Jody,

She has done fine with apples, blueberries, strawberries, and grapes. She

drinks organge juice and grape juice with no problem. I have not tried

apple cider. Her reaction has made me nervous about trying new fruits.

I will certainly keep her away from Satsumas for awhile, and pray when I

introduce a new fruit to her.

Thanks so much for your help,

Trella

Homeschool mom to , age 7, PDD-NOS, SCD 10/18/04, Breeanna age 9 NT,

and Bruce 10, gifted

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>

>

> I would not give her any more for a long while with that type of

> response.

>

> What happens when she eats apples and other brightly colored

> fruits or when she drinks apple cider and grape juice?

>

> You mentioned that she had been so much more calm on the

> diet... it makes it seem like the issue might be just with this one

> particular food rather than all phenols unless you had been

> restricting her phenol intake all this time.

>

>

>

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Jody,

She has done fine with apples, blueberries, strawberries, and grapes. She

drinks organge juice and grape juice with no problem. I have not tried

apple cider. Her reaction has made me nervous about trying new fruits.

I will certainly keep her away from Satsumas for awhile, and pray when I

introduce a new fruit to her.

Thanks so much for your help,

Trella

Homeschool mom to , age 7, PDD-NOS, SCD 10/18/04, Breeanna age 9 NT,

and Bruce 10, gifted

Re: Phenols

>

>

> I would not give her any more for a long while with that type of

> response.

>

> What happens when she eats apples and other brightly colored

> fruits or when she drinks apple cider and grape juice?

>

> You mentioned that she had been so much more calm on the

> diet... it makes it seem like the issue might be just with this one

> particular food rather than all phenols unless you had been

> restricting her phenol intake all this time.

>

>

>

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Jody,

She has done fine with apples, blueberries, strawberries, and grapes. She

drinks organge juice and grape juice with no problem. I have not tried

apple cider. Her reaction has made me nervous about trying new fruits.

I will certainly keep her away from Satsumas for awhile, and pray when I

introduce a new fruit to her.

Thanks so much for your help,

Trella

Homeschool mom to , age 7, PDD-NOS, SCD 10/18/04, Breeanna age 9 NT,

and Bruce 10, gifted

Re: Phenols

>

>

> I would not give her any more for a long while with that type of

> response.

>

> What happens when she eats apples and other brightly colored

> fruits or when she drinks apple cider and grape juice?

>

> You mentioned that she had been so much more calm on the

> diet... it makes it seem like the issue might be just with this one

> particular food rather than all phenols unless you had been

> restricting her phenol intake all this time.

>

>

>

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Hi Trella,

> Her reaction has made me nervous about trying new fruits.

> I will certainly keep her away from Satsumas for awhile, and pray

when I

> introduce a new fruit to her.

>

Since she does well with the other fruits I wonder if it was a

phenol reaction. Two things are possible:

1. she ate a big bunch. If possible, it is better to start with a

small amount and gradually build up. Hard with kids though if they

find something they like.

2. maybe she was sensitive to a pesticide etc. that the fruit was

sprayed with.

Sheila 46 mos SCD, 20 yrs UC

mom of SCD 31 mos

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Hi Trella,

> Her reaction has made me nervous about trying new fruits.

> I will certainly keep her away from Satsumas for awhile, and pray

when I

> introduce a new fruit to her.

>

Since she does well with the other fruits I wonder if it was a

phenol reaction. Two things are possible:

1. she ate a big bunch. If possible, it is better to start with a

small amount and gradually build up. Hard with kids though if they

find something they like.

2. maybe she was sensitive to a pesticide etc. that the fruit was

sprayed with.

Sheila 46 mos SCD, 20 yrs UC

mom of SCD 31 mos

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Hi Trella,

> Her reaction has made me nervous about trying new fruits.

> I will certainly keep her away from Satsumas for awhile, and pray

when I

> introduce a new fruit to her.

>

Since she does well with the other fruits I wonder if it was a

phenol reaction. Two things are possible:

1. she ate a big bunch. If possible, it is better to start with a

small amount and gradually build up. Hard with kids though if they

find something they like.

2. maybe she was sensitive to a pesticide etc. that the fruit was

sprayed with.

Sheila 46 mos SCD, 20 yrs UC

mom of SCD 31 mos

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