Re: relationships and this disease - a progressive rant

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You said it very well... I was in IM with a guy that I met a few years ago when I was man hunting... whole long story with that... this guy is exactly half my age, 24, but we're both geeks and talk from time to time... I'm a co-moderator for his geeky group. This was the first one on one chat that we've probably had in two years. He asked what I was doing to keep busy now days and I mentioned being involved with my support group and website... he asked support for what and I said Thyroid. He didn't respond for several minutes... not that uncommon in IM he may have been chatting with someone else at the same time... When he came back he said 'that's like medical, right?' I said yeah.... then he says 'do you have it'... I didn't really feel like going through the whole spiel so I just said yeah.... He's in Australia.... I'm in Minnesota, he's 24 years my junior... and suddenly he has to go.

.... he has to go... we'd been chatting for a couple of hours... geeky stuff, about the geek group... about dating. The prospects either of us have had since we last gabbed.... and the word thyroid, not even really knowing what it was, other than medical, suddenly he was busy.

When I was cruising the singles chats and found someone that was interesting to talk to and things got around to major interests... or past that and you start the confessions, like smoking.. divorce.. that stuff... and I'd bring up thyroid I'd say 95% of the time they would then ask if that meant that I was fat.... The other five percent weren't really all that concerned with body image... they were more concerned about the person that I was.... Okay.. that's cool.... a small percentage of those that considered the insides more important were also fat fetishists....

I guess my point is the same as one that you were making ... why do folks run?

As far as doc's not caring... Oh, yeah. I agree with that.... cut out the gland and make money... then just give out pills, ignore symptoms and quality of life, they got their buck and you won't actually die...it's win win and cash for them... Radiation.. that's even better... give you a pill and shoot you out the door so as not to contaminate them, charge a bunch of money and you won't actually die..... They made me sign a release form relieving them of ANY and ALL responsibility they handed me the pill and told me to leave the building...

Arrggghhhhhh

I know we've said it here time and time again.... but how would they feel if they had to live like us for a couple of days.... no libido, no energy, can't stay awake, mortally afraid of food, people all around you call you a lazy fat bum. Then the wise doc telling you it's all in your head, take more pills, get your lazy butt off the couch, go exercise, stop stuffing your face with candy and cake, and go home and let me see someone that needs my help.... And then mumbling about fat women and their stupid excuses.....

You're right.. time to stop before I blow my stack.

Topper ()

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:28:56 -0000 "lyongillespie" writes:

Just a thought here.Its sort of a RANT...so be warned..:)Something has been bugging me for some time now. Why is it that there is no website that talks about the impact on reltionships that this disease causes? I was watching Larry King the other night about MS...and noticed one young woman there who has been diagnosed with MS..and two men. Funny thing is...I worry that the young woman will get dumped by her husband...but couldn't help feeling the two men will no have to face that pain. Maybe that's not fair...but I realize I'm so stuck on my own situation. I went to the MS society website...and they have all kind of sections talking about how an "invisable" but dibilitating disease can impact realtionships and dating. I'm still torn to peices....SERIOUSLY over how shortly after my T-T I lost my mind and that killed my brand new boyfriend's intererest in me -- just when I needed support from the guy who was in love me...and who I was in love with. The guy looked at me like I was a stranger. I felt like he was looking at an imposter.. My only response was to cry and duck for cover... I wrestle with the regret of it ever day. It feels like Ground Hog Day...over and over. Until my mind heals...I won't even be able to reframe my preception.The grief...is excruciating..and unbearable. I feel so set up by the medical community. They didn't care...that they were gonna wreck me...give me this "Planet of the Apes" kind of operation. I'm still hurt and furious...and can't beleive in this day and age..doctors don't have to inform you of the consequences of their handy work. I went to four doctors...and not one who pushed for the surgery said even a word about hypothyroidism. I thought I was getting a totally irrelavant gland removed...not my essence. How dare they? Who gave them the right to do that?There is a lemon law of cars...and we all know when we go to a used car lot...we have to do some haggling..and may not be getting the whole truth. We have no warning that docs are like used car salesmen...and we our health there is no lemon law to protect us...(something that is vastly more important) than a car I would argue. I'm still so amazed by this.Anyway...I'll go have another cup of tea..before I work myself into a froth...~E:)

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You said it very well... I was in IM with a guy that I met a few years ago when I was man hunting... whole long story with that... this guy is exactly half my age, 24, but we're both geeks and talk from time to time... I'm a co-moderator for his geeky group. This was the first one on one chat that we've probably had in two years. He asked what I was doing to keep busy now days and I mentioned being involved with my support group and website... he asked support for what and I said Thyroid. He didn't respond for several minutes... not that uncommon in IM he may have been chatting with someone else at the same time... When he came back he said 'that's like medical, right?' I said yeah.... then he says 'do you have it'... I didn't really feel like going through the whole spiel so I just said yeah.... He's in Australia.... I'm in Minnesota, he's 24 years my junior... and suddenly he has to go.

.... he has to go... we'd been chatting for a couple of hours... geeky stuff, about the geek group... about dating. The prospects either of us have had since we last gabbed.... and the word thyroid, not even really knowing what it was, other than medical, suddenly he was busy.

When I was cruising the singles chats and found someone that was interesting to talk to and things got around to major interests... or past that and you start the confessions, like smoking.. divorce.. that stuff... and I'd bring up thyroid I'd say 95% of the time they would then ask if that meant that I was fat.... The other five percent weren't really all that concerned with body image... they were more concerned about the person that I was.... Okay.. that's cool.... a small percentage of those that considered the insides more important were also fat fetishists....

I guess my point is the same as one that you were making ... why do folks run?

As far as doc's not caring... Oh, yeah. I agree with that.... cut out the gland and make money... then just give out pills, ignore symptoms and quality of life, they got their buck and you won't actually die...it's win win and cash for them... Radiation.. that's even better... give you a pill and shoot you out the door so as not to contaminate them, charge a bunch of money and you won't actually die..... They made me sign a release form relieving them of ANY and ALL responsibility they handed me the pill and told me to leave the building...

Arrggghhhhhh

I know we've said it here time and time again.... but how would they feel if they had to live like us for a couple of days.... no libido, no energy, can't stay awake, mortally afraid of food, people all around you call you a lazy fat bum. Then the wise doc telling you it's all in your head, take more pills, get your lazy butt off the couch, go exercise, stop stuffing your face with candy and cake, and go home and let me see someone that needs my help.... And then mumbling about fat women and their stupid excuses.....

You're right.. time to stop before I blow my stack.

Topper ()

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:28:56 -0000 "lyongillespie" writes:

Just a thought here.Its sort of a RANT...so be warned..:)Something has been bugging me for some time now. Why is it that there is no website that talks about the impact on reltionships that this disease causes? I was watching Larry King the other night about MS...and noticed one young woman there who has been diagnosed with MS..and two men. Funny thing is...I worry that the young woman will get dumped by her husband...but couldn't help feeling the two men will no have to face that pain. Maybe that's not fair...but I realize I'm so stuck on my own situation. I went to the MS society website...and they have all kind of sections talking about how an "invisable" but dibilitating disease can impact realtionships and dating. I'm still torn to peices....SERIOUSLY over how shortly after my T-T I lost my mind and that killed my brand new boyfriend's intererest in me -- just when I needed support from the guy who was in love me...and who I was in love with. The guy looked at me like I was a stranger. I felt like he was looking at an imposter.. My only response was to cry and duck for cover... I wrestle with the regret of it ever day. It feels like Ground Hog Day...over and over. Until my mind heals...I won't even be able to reframe my preception.The grief...is excruciating..and unbearable. I feel so set up by the medical community. They didn't care...that they were gonna wreck me...give me this "Planet of the Apes" kind of operation. I'm still hurt and furious...and can't beleive in this day and age..doctors don't have to inform you of the consequences of their handy work. I went to four doctors...and not one who pushed for the surgery said even a word about hypothyroidism. I thought I was getting a totally irrelavant gland removed...not my essence. How dare they? Who gave them the right to do that?There is a lemon law of cars...and we all know when we go to a used car lot...we have to do some haggling..and may not be getting the whole truth. We have no warning that docs are like used car salesmen...and we our health there is no lemon law to protect us...(something that is vastly more important) than a car I would argue. I'm still so amazed by this.Anyway...I'll go have another cup of tea..before I work myself into a froth...~E:)

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You said it very well... I was in IM with a guy that I met a few years ago when I was man hunting... whole long story with that... this guy is exactly half my age, 24, but we're both geeks and talk from time to time... I'm a co-moderator for his geeky group. This was the first one on one chat that we've probably had in two years. He asked what I was doing to keep busy now days and I mentioned being involved with my support group and website... he asked support for what and I said Thyroid. He didn't respond for several minutes... not that uncommon in IM he may have been chatting with someone else at the same time... When he came back he said 'that's like medical, right?' I said yeah.... then he says 'do you have it'... I didn't really feel like going through the whole spiel so I just said yeah.... He's in Australia.... I'm in Minnesota, he's 24 years my junior... and suddenly he has to go.

.... he has to go... we'd been chatting for a couple of hours... geeky stuff, about the geek group... about dating. The prospects either of us have had since we last gabbed.... and the word thyroid, not even really knowing what it was, other than medical, suddenly he was busy.

When I was cruising the singles chats and found someone that was interesting to talk to and things got around to major interests... or past that and you start the confessions, like smoking.. divorce.. that stuff... and I'd bring up thyroid I'd say 95% of the time they would then ask if that meant that I was fat.... The other five percent weren't really all that concerned with body image... they were more concerned about the person that I was.... Okay.. that's cool.... a small percentage of those that considered the insides more important were also fat fetishists....

I guess my point is the same as one that you were making ... why do folks run?

As far as doc's not caring... Oh, yeah. I agree with that.... cut out the gland and make money... then just give out pills, ignore symptoms and quality of life, they got their buck and you won't actually die...it's win win and cash for them... Radiation.. that's even better... give you a pill and shoot you out the door so as not to contaminate them, charge a bunch of money and you won't actually die..... They made me sign a release form relieving them of ANY and ALL responsibility they handed me the pill and told me to leave the building...

Arrggghhhhhh

I know we've said it here time and time again.... but how would they feel if they had to live like us for a couple of days.... no libido, no energy, can't stay awake, mortally afraid of food, people all around you call you a lazy fat bum. Then the wise doc telling you it's all in your head, take more pills, get your lazy butt off the couch, go exercise, stop stuffing your face with candy and cake, and go home and let me see someone that needs my help.... And then mumbling about fat women and their stupid excuses.....

You're right.. time to stop before I blow my stack.

Topper ()

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:28:56 -0000 "lyongillespie" writes:

Just a thought here.Its sort of a RANT...so be warned..:)Something has been bugging me for some time now. Why is it that there is no website that talks about the impact on reltionships that this disease causes? I was watching Larry King the other night about MS...and noticed one young woman there who has been diagnosed with MS..and two men. Funny thing is...I worry that the young woman will get dumped by her husband...but couldn't help feeling the two men will no have to face that pain. Maybe that's not fair...but I realize I'm so stuck on my own situation. I went to the MS society website...and they have all kind of sections talking about how an "invisable" but dibilitating disease can impact realtionships and dating. I'm still torn to peices....SERIOUSLY over how shortly after my T-T I lost my mind and that killed my brand new boyfriend's intererest in me -- just when I needed support from the guy who was in love me...and who I was in love with. The guy looked at me like I was a stranger. I felt like he was looking at an imposter.. My only response was to cry and duck for cover... I wrestle with the regret of it ever day. It feels like Ground Hog Day...over and over. Until my mind heals...I won't even be able to reframe my preception.The grief...is excruciating..and unbearable. I feel so set up by the medical community. They didn't care...that they were gonna wreck me...give me this "Planet of the Apes" kind of operation. I'm still hurt and furious...and can't beleive in this day and age..doctors don't have to inform you of the consequences of their handy work. I went to four doctors...and not one who pushed for the surgery said even a word about hypothyroidism. I thought I was getting a totally irrelavant gland removed...not my essence. How dare they? Who gave them the right to do that?There is a lemon law of cars...and we all know when we go to a used car lot...we have to do some haggling..and may not be getting the whole truth. We have no warning that docs are like used car salesmen...and we our health there is no lemon law to protect us...(something that is vastly more important) than a car I would argue. I'm still so amazed by this.Anyway...I'll go have another cup of tea..before I work myself into a froth...~E:)

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not to sound spiteful, but i have always been a firm believer in

the 'what goes around comes around' theory. i truly hope that these

ignorant heartless men you guys spoke of die lonely old and

regretful. and they probably will if they cruise through life that

way. i should mention, my fiance is no prince, and he did give me a

hard time and doubt me often (even if he didnt come out and say it,

i knew) before i found this group. when i find something that

relates to my symptoms i read it to him. " look honey, heres 5 women

who freeze their butts off too " , and i explain anything i learn from

you in great detail to him, so we are both educating ourselves. i

really think this group has helped not only with the medical

aspects, but also in my relationship, and i guess i just wanted to

say thank you. oh god, am i sounding emotional? lol i'm tearing up

over here! i told you guys, i'm a nut when i'm preggers hahaha

>

> You said it very well... I was in IM with a guy that I met a few

years

> ago when I was man hunting... whole long story with that... this

guy is

> exactly half my age, 24, but we're both geeks and talk from time to

> time... I'm a co-moderator for his geeky group. This was the first

one on

> one chat that we've probably had in two years. He asked what I was

doing

> to keep busy now days and I mentioned being involved with my

support

> group and website... he asked support for what and I said Thyroid.

He

> didn't respond for several minutes... not that uncommon in IM he

may have

> been chatting with someone else at the same time... When he came

back he

> said 'that's like medical, right?' I said yeah.... then he

says 'do you

> have it'... I didn't really feel like going through the whole

spiel so I

> just said yeah.... He's in Australia.... I'm in Minnesota, he's 24

years

> my junior... and suddenly he has to go.

>

> ... he has to go... we'd been chatting for a couple of hours...

geeky

> stuff, about the geek group... about dating. The prospects either

of us

> have had since we last gabbed.... and the word thyroid, not even

really

> knowing what it was, other than medical, suddenly he was busy.

>

> When I was cruising the singles chats and found someone that was

> interesting to talk to and things got around to major interests...

or

> past that and you start the confessions, like smoking.. divorce..

that

> stuff... and I'd bring up thyroid I'd say 95% of the time they

would then

> ask if that meant that I was fat.... The other five percent

weren't

> really all that concerned with body image... they were more

concerned

> about the person that I was.... Okay.. that's cool.... a small

percentage

> of those that considered the insides more important were also fat

> fetishists....

>

> I guess my point is the same as one that you were making ... why

do folks

> run?

>

> As far as doc's not caring... Oh, yeah. I agree with that.... cut

out the

> gland and make money... then just give out pills, ignore symptoms

and

> quality of life, they got their buck and you won't actually

die...it's

> win win and cash for them... Radiation.. that's even better...

give you a

> pill and shoot you out the door so as not to contaminate them,

charge a

> bunch of money and you won't actually die..... They made me sign a

> release form relieving them of ANY and ALL responsibility they

handed me

> the pill and told me to leave the building...

>

> Arrggghhhhhh

>

> I know we've said it here time and time again.... but how would

they feel

> if they had to live like us for a couple of days.... no libido, no

> energy, can't stay awake, mortally afraid of food, people all

around you

> call you a lazy fat bum. Then the wise doc telling you it's all in

your

> head, take more pills, get your lazy butt off the couch, go

exercise,

> stop stuffing your face with candy and cake, and go home and let

me see

> someone that needs my help.... And then mumbling about fat women

and

> their stupid excuses.....

>

> You're right.. time to stop before I blow my stack.

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:28:56 -0000 " lyongillespie "

> <lyongillespie@y...> writes:

> Just a thought here.

>

> Its sort of a RANT...so be warned..

>

> Something has been bugging me for some time now. Why is it that

there

> is no website that talks about the impact on reltionships that

this

> disease causes? I was watching Larry King the other night about

> MS...and noticed one young woman there who has been diagnosed with

> MS..and two men. Funny thing is...I worry that the young woman

will

> get dumped by her husband...but couldn't help feeling the two men

will

> no have to face that pain. Maybe that's not fair...but I realize

I'm so

> stuck on my own situation.

>

> I went to the MS society website...and they have all kind of

sections

> talking about how an " invisable " but dibilitating disease can

impact

> realtionships and dating.

>

> I'm still torn to peices....SERIOUSLY over how shortly after my T-

T I

> lost my mind and that killed my brand new boyfriend's intererest

in me -

> - just when I needed support from the guy who was in love me...and

who

> I was in love with. The guy looked at me like I was a stranger. I

felt

> like he was looking at an imposter..

>

> My only response was to cry and duck for cover... I wrestle with

the

> regret of it ever day. It feels like Ground Hog Day...over and

over.

> Until my mind heals...I won't even be able to reframe my

preception.

>

> The grief...is excruciating..and unbearable.

>

> I feel so set up by the medical community. They didn't

care...that

> they were gonna wreck me...give me this " Planet of the Apes " kind

of

> operation. I'm still hurt and furious...and can't beleive in this

day

> and age..doctors don't have to inform you of the consequences of

their

> handy work. I went to four doctors...and not one who pushed for

the

> surgery said even a word about hypothyroidism.

>

> I thought I was getting a totally irrelavant gland removed...not

my

> essence. How dare they? Who gave them the right to do that?

>

> There is a lemon law of cars...and we all know when we go to a

used car

> lot...we have to do some haggling..and may not be getting the

whole

> truth. We have no warning that docs are like used car

salesmen...and we

> our health there is no lemon law to protect us...(something that

is

> vastly more important) than a car I would argue. I'm still so

amazed by

> this.

>

> Anyway...I'll go have another cup of tea..before I work myself

into a

> froth...

>

> ~E:)

>

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topper2@... wrote: You said it very well... ------- Oh...AND one more thing. I don't mean to minimize this for anyone...but I really think the timing for me really sucked. If I had been in a long-term healthy marriage where things had been established with kids...I think this all might have gone a bit different. Like: A husband to fight the doctors with me....who already knew me well enough to understand that I was not myself. I wouldn't be racing against the fertility issues like I am now. Now...I don't even have a guy...and wonder if I'll ever make it. I find

that when I have tried to talk about this in forums I have gotten shot down. I understand this disease in not fun for anyone...but for folks who have lives that are well established already (maybe older...maybe married..maybe with their careers behind them)...don't face quite the same set of issues. When this hits you when you are just getting established..and you are still single and want to have kids...the grief and loss can be unbeleivably devastating. ~E:)

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topper2@... wrote: You said it very well... ------- Oh...AND one more thing. I don't mean to minimize this for anyone...but I really think the timing for me really sucked. If I had been in a long-term healthy marriage where things had been established with kids...I think this all might have gone a bit different. Like: A husband to fight the doctors with me....who already knew me well enough to understand that I was not myself. I wouldn't be racing against the fertility issues like I am now. Now...I don't even have a guy...and wonder if I'll ever make it. I find

that when I have tried to talk about this in forums I have gotten shot down. I understand this disease in not fun for anyone...but for folks who have lives that are well established already (maybe older...maybe married..maybe with their careers behind them)...don't face quite the same set of issues. When this hits you when you are just getting established..and you are still single and want to have kids...the grief and loss can be unbeleivably devastating. ~E:)

~EG Connecticut Total-T 16 months ago / 37.5 mg Synthetic/120mg Armour since August 7th

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topper2@... wrote: You said it very well... ------- Oh...AND one more thing. I don't mean to minimize this for anyone...but I really think the timing for me really sucked. If I had been in a long-term healthy marriage where things had been established with kids...I think this all might have gone a bit different. Like: A husband to fight the doctors with me....who already knew me well enough to understand that I was not myself. I wouldn't be racing against the fertility issues like I am now. Now...I don't even have a guy...and wonder if I'll ever make it. I find

that when I have tried to talk about this in forums I have gotten shot down. I understand this disease in not fun for anyone...but for folks who have lives that are well established already (maybe older...maybe married..maybe with their careers behind them)...don't face quite the same set of issues. When this hits you when you are just getting established..and you are still single and want to have kids...the grief and loss can be unbeleivably devastating. ~E:)

~EG Connecticut Total-T 16 months ago / 37.5 mg Synthetic/120mg Armour since August 7th

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angie wrote: not to sound spiteful, but i have always been a firm believer in the 'what goes around comes around' theory. i truly hope that these ignorant heartless men you guys spoke of die lonely old and regretful. ------------------ WEll..Angie you made me laugh really loud there! Well, I get the feeling they will be getting thier cummupants. I am glad that you have gotten some help here for you relationship...and man do you have a load to carry being pregnant there. If your guy needs to talk to anyone about how VERY scarey

and difficult the disease is...there are plenty of us around. I remember wishing someone would just VOUCH for me about this strange illness. Ya know? So...good for you. You tell him to keep reading. And...its SO transitory. Once you get well...you won't have to worry about it anymore..you just take your protocol and you'll be great! ~E:)

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angie wrote: not to sound spiteful, but i have always been a firm believer in the 'what goes around comes around' theory. i truly hope that these ignorant heartless men you guys spoke of die lonely old and regretful. ------------------ WEll..Angie you made me laugh really loud there! Well, I get the feeling they will be getting thier cummupants. I am glad that you have gotten some help here for you relationship...and man do you have a load to carry being pregnant there. If your guy needs to talk to anyone about how VERY scarey

and difficult the disease is...there are plenty of us around. I remember wishing someone would just VOUCH for me about this strange illness. Ya know? So...good for you. You tell him to keep reading. And...its SO transitory. Once you get well...you won't have to worry about it anymore..you just take your protocol and you'll be great! ~E:)

~EG Connecticut Total-T 16 months ago / 37.5 mg Synthetic/120mg Armour since August 7th

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[Guest guest]

Arrggghhhhhh

I know we've said it here time and time again.... but how would they feel

if they had to live like us for a couple of days.....

- you said it so well, Topper!

Nan

[Guest guest]

Arrggghhhhhh

I know we've said it here time and time again.... but how would they feel

if they had to live like us for a couple of days.....

- you said it so well, Topper!

Nan

[Guest guest]

Mine is paying the price...he's alone again now... and stuck with the house that they bought together.... He hasn't approached me in over a year.... I kinda hope he does... I'll get to laugh at him for choosing the wrong one... hehehehehhe

Topper ()

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:08:39 -0000 "angie" writes:

not to sound spiteful, but i have always been a firm believer in the 'what goes around comes around' theory. i truly hope that these ignorant heartless men you guys spoke of die lonely old and regretful. and they probably will if they cruise through life that way. i should mention, my fiance is no prince, and he did give me a hard time and doubt me often (even if he didnt come out and say it, i knew) before i found this group. when i find something that relates to my symptoms i read it to him. "look honey, heres 5 women who freeze their butts off too", and i explain anything i learn from you in great detail to him, so we are both educating ourselves. i really think this group has helped not only with the medical aspects, but also in my relationship, and i guess i just wanted to say thank you. oh god, am i sounding emotional? lol i'm tearing up over here! i told you guys, i'm a nut when i'm preggers hahaha

[Guest guest]

Mine is paying the price...he's alone again now... and stuck with the house that they bought together.... He hasn't approached me in over a year.... I kinda hope he does... I'll get to laugh at him for choosing the wrong one... hehehehehhe

Topper ()

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:08:39 -0000 "angie" writes:

not to sound spiteful, but i have always been a firm believer in the 'what goes around comes around' theory. i truly hope that these ignorant heartless men you guys spoke of die lonely old and regretful. and they probably will if they cruise through life that way. i should mention, my fiance is no prince, and he did give me a hard time and doubt me often (even if he didnt come out and say it, i knew) before i found this group. when i find something that relates to my symptoms i read it to him. "look honey, heres 5 women who freeze their butts off too", and i explain anything i learn from you in great detail to him, so we are both educating ourselves. i really think this group has helped not only with the medical aspects, but also in my relationship, and i guess i just wanted to say thank you. oh god, am i sounding emotional? lol i'm tearing up over here! i told you guys, i'm a nut when i'm preggers hahaha

[Guest guest]

I can relate... so much of what happened to me, the emotional stuff hit me through those 'magic' years... and then when my mind and emotions had reached the mid range, before I crashed bad hypo I found a man that said he loved me more than anything... that being with me showed him what true love really was and that he couldn't picture being without me... He was there, holding my hand when I was first using the crutches... and would jump up to get things for me so that I didnt' have to... but he didn't baby me.. I still did the chores while he was at work.. he was just really attentive when he was home...

I remember (adult topic, kids go away now) we were in bed one night.. and sleeping was getting bad for me... I had just started nesting so I was 8 inches higher than he in bed. He rolled over to kiss me before we went to sleep and then grunted and mumbled when he had to lift up on one arm to reach me.. He never said anything, at the time or later... but I had this thing inside of me that said that grunt was his first vocalization that I was too much effort.

He was supportive when I lost my home... and my car.. saying not to worry, when things were all settled and we could be 'official' he'd take care of me... and I'd take care of him... neither of us would ever have to worry about anything again..... and then later to find out all those years he'd been having affairs.... both men and women....

Was it my being hypo.... so slow with reacting, trying so hard not to jump to conclusions that allowed me to accept some of his stories? I know for a long time I was kicking myself for being so dumb, for letting him fool me soo thoroughly.. was it me.... or the hypo?

This jack(* & tossed me out two weeks before I was to go on his insurance... I had only a few pills left on my prescription... and desperately needed insurance for labs and more pills.. .and he tells me to pack up my stuff, he's moving someone else in...

sigh

I have to remember the good that came out of what he did.... as I sit here balling right now.. hurt and angry at what he did..... if he had not done what he did I would have still be underdosed on the synthetics, I would still be on crutches, or in a wheelchair.... I wouldn't have reached that point where I thought my heart would just stop and I'd drop dead so I had to do something, anything, safe or not.... or I would die..... and that is when I found the natural and in just a few months was leaving the crutches in the corner..... and then learned about what the docs had been doing wrong.. that the docs didn't care.

The sad part.. the truly truly sad part... the man that he pretended to be??? I still love that man with all my heart... but the man that he really is.... I could castrate him with a broken bottle without a second thought.

I remember that summer, three years ago... listening to my heart... beating so slow... and my breathing so slow.. and then I'd stop breathing... I just didn't have it in me to do the work to breathe.... I'd sit here wondering if some day my body just wouldn't start breathing again... if one night I'd go to bed and my breathing would stop and I wouldn't know it and just never wake up.... I begged at so many places, to get meds, to get help and they all told my that being hypo was no big deal, it won't kill you... and I'd tell them that I didn't have a gland... I wasn't just hypo.. they fried my gland and that I'd die without meds... and no one cared....

Now I need to stop crying... I need a joke... bad!!!! and in the mean time... I want everyone to give a shout.... thanking that jerk for setting me free so that I can be me again.... I'm so much better, walking and breathing and living again with the right meds and the right dose. And even if I am crying now... it's a good cry.. not like I did for so many years... crying all the time.. the sun would go behind a cloud and I'd cry and the commercial on TV had a baby getting a new diaper and I'd cry, and a movie would come on and I'd cry for some dumb reason... at least now I cry for a reason, if it's a dumb one!!!!

....perfect timing... On TV, right now... the National Pie Championships.. that will put me in a good mood.... maybe I'll bake a pie after the show!!! Everyone is invited for pie!!!!

Topper ()

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 10:15:08 -0800 (PST) E Gillespie writes:

Oh...AND one more thing. I don't mean to minimize this for anyone...but I really think the timing for me really sucked. If I had been in a long-term healthy marriage where things had been established with kids...I think this all might have gone a bit different.

Like:

A husband to fight the doctors with me....who already knew me well enough to understand that I was not myself.

I wouldn't be racing against the fertility issues like I am now. Now...I don't even have a guy...and wonder if I'll ever make it.

I find that when I have tried to talk about this in forums I have gotten shot down. I understand this disease in not fun for anyone...but for folks who have lives that are well established already (maybe older...maybe married..maybe with their careers behind them)...don't face quite the same set of issues. When this hits you when you are just getting established..and you are still single and want to have kids...the grief and loss can be unbeleivably devastating.

~E:)

[Guest guest]

you are the better person, and as much as he hurt you, you will

always have that last laugh. i just love running into exes

i was at work last weekend and my ex was at the bar. years ago he

was seeing me as well as this other girl at the same time. of course

i busted don juan and that relationship was done. so he's on the

phone with that same girl arguing all night long. as if i wasnt

tickled enough by this, on my way home to my fiance and my 2

beautiful children, i see him walking, in the freezing cold, with

only a sweatshirt, walking all the way home. probably about a 2 hour

walk. lol, maybe i'm a bitch, but i'm still smiling thinking about

it. sweet sweet karma. i love it.

>

> Mine is paying the price...he's alone again now... and stuck with

the

> house that they bought together.... He hasn't approached me in

over a

> year.... I kinda hope he does... I'll get to laugh at him for

choosing

> the wrong one... hehehehehhe

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:08:39 -0000 " angie " <peachyjones76@y...>

> writes:

> not to sound spiteful, but i have always been a firm believer in

> the 'what goes around comes around' theory. i truly hope that

these

> ignorant heartless men you guys spoke of die lonely old and

> regretful. and they probably will if they cruise through life that

> way. i should mention, my fiance is no prince, and he did give me

a

> hard time and doubt me often (even if he didnt come out and say

it,

> i knew) before i found this group. when i find something that

> relates to my symptoms i read it to him. " look honey, heres 5

women

> who freeze their butts off too " , and i explain anything i learn

from

> you in great detail to him, so we are both educating ourselves. i

> really think this group has helped not only with the medical

> aspects, but also in my relationship, and i guess i just wanted to

> say thank you. oh god, am i sounding emotional? lol i'm tearing up

> over here! i told you guys, i'm a nut when i'm preggers hahaha

>

[Guest guest]

you are the better person, and as much as he hurt you, you will

always have that last laugh. i just love running into exes

i was at work last weekend and my ex was at the bar. years ago he

was seeing me as well as this other girl at the same time. of course

i busted don juan and that relationship was done. so he's on the

phone with that same girl arguing all night long. as if i wasnt

tickled enough by this, on my way home to my fiance and my 2

beautiful children, i see him walking, in the freezing cold, with

only a sweatshirt, walking all the way home. probably about a 2 hour

walk. lol, maybe i'm a bitch, but i'm still smiling thinking about

it. sweet sweet karma. i love it.

>

> Mine is paying the price...he's alone again now... and stuck with

the

> house that they bought together.... He hasn't approached me in

over a

> year.... I kinda hope he does... I'll get to laugh at him for

choosing

> the wrong one... hehehehehhe

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:08:39 -0000 " angie " <peachyjones76@y...>

> writes:

> not to sound spiteful, but i have always been a firm believer in

> the 'what goes around comes around' theory. i truly hope that

these

> ignorant heartless men you guys spoke of die lonely old and

> regretful. and they probably will if they cruise through life that

> way. i should mention, my fiance is no prince, and he did give me

a

> hard time and doubt me often (even if he didnt come out and say

it,

> i knew) before i found this group. when i find something that

> relates to my symptoms i read it to him. " look honey, heres 5

women

> who freeze their butts off too " , and i explain anything i learn

from

> you in great detail to him, so we are both educating ourselves. i

> really think this group has helped not only with the medical

> aspects, but also in my relationship, and i guess i just wanted to

> say thank you. oh god, am i sounding emotional? lol i'm tearing up

> over here! i told you guys, i'm a nut when i'm preggers hahaha

>

[Guest guest]

I got one for you guys. I remember sitting there shaking and

trembling thinking I was losing my mind. I didn't know what was

going on inside me just that something wasn't right. The anxiety

level so so high in my body that I would just lay on the floor

clawing at it. My husband at the time and I were scheduled to go on

a trip to Mexico the following week. When I told him I was really

sick and didn't think I could go he said , " well even if you don't go

I am going to go because I really need this vacation " . What a

selfish ass!! I was diagnosed severly hyperthyroid. I did end up

going on the trip only because I was so drugged out from the Zanax

they gave me for the anxiety. I never forgot how he treated me and

yes I did divorce him several years later. The true test of love is

being there through the good times and bad.

Lois

> >

> > Mine is paying the price...he's alone again now... and stuck

with

> the

> > house that they bought together.... He hasn't approached me in

> over a

> > year.... I kinda hope he does... I'll get to laugh at him for

> choosing

> > the wrong one... hehehehehhe

> >

> > Topper ()

> >

> > On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:08:39 -0000 " angie " <peachyjones76@y...>

> > writes:

> > not to sound spiteful, but i have always been a firm believer in

> > the 'what goes around comes around' theory. i truly hope that

> these

> > ignorant heartless men you guys spoke of die lonely old and

> > regretful. and they probably will if they cruise through life

that

> > way. i should mention, my fiance is no prince, and he did give

me

> a

> > hard time and doubt me often (even if he didnt come out and say

> it,

> > i knew) before i found this group. when i find something that

> > relates to my symptoms i read it to him. " look honey, heres 5

> women

> > who freeze their butts off too " , and i explain anything i learn

> from

> > you in great detail to him, so we are both educating ourselves.

i

> > really think this group has helped not only with the medical

> > aspects, but also in my relationship, and i guess i just wanted

to

> > say thank you. oh god, am i sounding emotional? lol i'm tearing

up

> > over here! i told you guys, i'm a nut when i'm preggers hahaha

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I got one for you guys. I remember sitting there shaking and

trembling thinking I was losing my mind. I didn't know what was

going on inside me just that something wasn't right. The anxiety

level so so high in my body that I would just lay on the floor

clawing at it. My husband at the time and I were scheduled to go on

a trip to Mexico the following week. When I told him I was really

sick and didn't think I could go he said , " well even if you don't go

I am going to go because I really need this vacation " . What a

selfish ass!! I was diagnosed severly hyperthyroid. I did end up

going on the trip only because I was so drugged out from the Zanax

they gave me for the anxiety. I never forgot how he treated me and

yes I did divorce him several years later. The true test of love is

being there through the good times and bad.

Lois

> >

> > Mine is paying the price...he's alone again now... and stuck

with

> the

> > house that they bought together.... He hasn't approached me in

> over a

> > year.... I kinda hope he does... I'll get to laugh at him for

> choosing

> > the wrong one... hehehehehhe

> >

> > Topper ()

> >

> > On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:08:39 -0000 " angie " <peachyjones76@y...>

> > writes:

> > not to sound spiteful, but i have always been a firm believer in

> > the 'what goes around comes around' theory. i truly hope that

> these

> > ignorant heartless men you guys spoke of die lonely old and

> > regretful. and they probably will if they cruise through life

that

> > way. i should mention, my fiance is no prince, and he did give

me

> a

> > hard time and doubt me often (even if he didnt come out and say

> it,

> > i knew) before i found this group. when i find something that

> > relates to my symptoms i read it to him. " look honey, heres 5

> women

> > who freeze their butts off too " , and i explain anything i learn

> from

> > you in great detail to him, so we are both educating ourselves.

i

> > really think this group has helped not only with the medical

> > aspects, but also in my relationship, and i guess i just wanted

to

> > say thank you. oh god, am i sounding emotional? lol i'm tearing

up

> > over here! i told you guys, i'm a nut when i'm preggers hahaha

> >

>

[Guest guest]

It's never going to be a woman's fault for being a trusting soul, Topper. It's going to be those who are untrustworthy's fault for being who THEY are! Now I just have to thank God every single day that I WAS the way I was, because that's the way I should have been able to be. Does that make sense here? It is the predator who is at fault, not the other way around, and I thank God every day that I never thought that way at all. All 3 men who did to me what you are talking about (two husbands and one boyfriend after that) are dead at an early age, long before I ever reached the age I'm at (54). I was widowed by the first one, I divorced the second one, and the boyfriend died of throat cancer way too soon. We're not innocent, BUT we were trusting, as we should have been able to be, but were taken advantage of, because of a giving and loving spirit. I was bitter for a long time, but now I see the journey that has taken me where I am, and I'm so glad that I wasn't anything like the partners that I hooked up with. It is THEIR loss, not mine or yours. Were they totally INSANE?! What a FIND we were, lol!

Re: relationships and this disease - a progressive rant

I can relate... so much of what happened to me, the emotional stuff hit me through those 'magic' years... and then when my mind and emotions had reached the mid range, before I crashed bad hypo I found a man that said he loved me more than anything... that being with me showed him what true love really was and that he couldn't picture being without me... He was there, holding my hand when I was first using the crutches... and would jump up to get things for me so that I didnt' have to... but he didn't baby me.. I still did the chores while he was at work.. he was just really attentive when he was home...

I remember (adult topic, kids go away now) we were in bed one night.. and sleeping was getting bad for me... I had just started nesting so I was 8 inches higher than he in bed. He rolled over to kiss me before we went to sleep and then grunted and mumbled when he had to lift up on one arm to reach me.. He never said anything, at the time or later... but I had this thing inside of me that said that grunt was his first vocalization that I was too much effort.

He was supportive when I lost my home... and my car.. saying not to worry, when things were all settled and we could be 'official' he'd take care of me... and I'd take care of him... neither of us would ever have to worry about anything again..... and then later to find out all those years he'd been having affairs.... both men and women....

Was it my being hypo.... so slow with reacting, trying so hard not to jump to conclusions that allowed me to accept some of his stories? I know for a long time I was kicking myself for being so dumb, for letting him fool me soo thoroughly.. was it me.... or the hypo?

This jack(* & tossed me out two weeks before I was to go on his insurance... I had only a few pills left on my prescription... and desperately needed insurance for labs and more pills.. .and he tells me to pack up my stuff, he's moving someone else in...

sigh

I have to remember the good that came out of what he did.... as I sit here balling right now.. hurt and angry at what he did..... if he had not done what he did I would have still be underdosed on the synthetics, I would still be on crutches, or in a wheelchair.... I wouldn't have reached that point where I thought my heart would just stop and I'd drop dead so I had to do something, anything, safe or not.... or I would die..... and that is when I found the natural and in just a few months was leaving the crutches in the corner..... and then learned about what the docs had been doing wrong.. that the docs didn't care.

The sad part.. the truly truly sad part... the man that he pretended to be??? I still love that man with all my heart... but the man that he really is.... I could castrate him with a broken bottle without a second thought.

I remember that summer, three years ago... listening to my heart... beating so slow... and my breathing so slow.. and then I'd stop breathing... I just didn't have it in me to do the work to breathe.... I'd sit here wondering if some day my body just wouldn't start breathing again... if one night I'd go to bed and my breathing would stop and I wouldn't know it and just never wake up.... I begged at so many places, to get meds, to get help and they all told my that being hypo was no big deal, it won't kill you... and I'd tell them that I didn't have a gland... I wasn't just hypo.. they fried my gland and that I'd die without meds... and no one cared....

Now I need to stop crying... I need a joke... bad!!!! and in the mean time... I want everyone to give a shout.... thanking that jerk for setting me free so that I can be me again.... I'm so much better, walking and breathing and living again with the right meds and the right dose. And even if I am crying now... it's a good cry.. not like I did for so many years... crying all the time.. the sun would go behind a cloud and I'd cry and the commercial on TV had a baby getting a new diaper and I'd cry, and a movie would come on and I'd cry for some dumb reason... at least now I cry for a reason, if it's a dumb one!!!!

....perfect timing... On TV, right now... the National Pie Championships.. that will put me in a good mood.... maybe I'll bake a pie after the show!!! Everyone is invited for pie!!!!

Topper ()

[Guest guest]

It's never going to be a woman's fault for being a trusting soul, Topper. It's going to be those who are untrustworthy's fault for being who THEY are! Now I just have to thank God every single day that I WAS the way I was, because that's the way I should have been able to be. Does that make sense here? It is the predator who is at fault, not the other way around, and I thank God every day that I never thought that way at all. All 3 men who did to me what you are talking about (two husbands and one boyfriend after that) are dead at an early age, long before I ever reached the age I'm at (54). I was widowed by the first one, I divorced the second one, and the boyfriend died of throat cancer way too soon. We're not innocent, BUT we were trusting, as we should have been able to be, but were taken advantage of, because of a giving and loving spirit. I was bitter for a long time, but now I see the journey that has taken me where I am, and I'm so glad that I wasn't anything like the partners that I hooked up with. It is THEIR loss, not mine or yours. Were they totally INSANE?! What a FIND we were, lol!

Re: relationships and this disease - a progressive rant

I can relate... so much of what happened to me, the emotional stuff hit me through those 'magic' years... and then when my mind and emotions had reached the mid range, before I crashed bad hypo I found a man that said he loved me more than anything... that being with me showed him what true love really was and that he couldn't picture being without me... He was there, holding my hand when I was first using the crutches... and would jump up to get things for me so that I didnt' have to... but he didn't baby me.. I still did the chores while he was at work.. he was just really attentive when he was home...

I remember (adult topic, kids go away now) we were in bed one night.. and sleeping was getting bad for me... I had just started nesting so I was 8 inches higher than he in bed. He rolled over to kiss me before we went to sleep and then grunted and mumbled when he had to lift up on one arm to reach me.. He never said anything, at the time or later... but I had this thing inside of me that said that grunt was his first vocalization that I was too much effort.

He was supportive when I lost my home... and my car.. saying not to worry, when things were all settled and we could be 'official' he'd take care of me... and I'd take care of him... neither of us would ever have to worry about anything again..... and then later to find out all those years he'd been having affairs.... both men and women....

Was it my being hypo.... so slow with reacting, trying so hard not to jump to conclusions that allowed me to accept some of his stories? I know for a long time I was kicking myself for being so dumb, for letting him fool me soo thoroughly.. was it me.... or the hypo?

This jack(* & tossed me out two weeks before I was to go on his insurance... I had only a few pills left on my prescription... and desperately needed insurance for labs and more pills.. .and he tells me to pack up my stuff, he's moving someone else in...

sigh

I have to remember the good that came out of what he did.... as I sit here balling right now.. hurt and angry at what he did..... if he had not done what he did I would have still be underdosed on the synthetics, I would still be on crutches, or in a wheelchair.... I wouldn't have reached that point where I thought my heart would just stop and I'd drop dead so I had to do something, anything, safe or not.... or I would die..... and that is when I found the natural and in just a few months was leaving the crutches in the corner..... and then learned about what the docs had been doing wrong.. that the docs didn't care.

The sad part.. the truly truly sad part... the man that he pretended to be??? I still love that man with all my heart... but the man that he really is.... I could castrate him with a broken bottle without a second thought.

I remember that summer, three years ago... listening to my heart... beating so slow... and my breathing so slow.. and then I'd stop breathing... I just didn't have it in me to do the work to breathe.... I'd sit here wondering if some day my body just wouldn't start breathing again... if one night I'd go to bed and my breathing would stop and I wouldn't know it and just never wake up.... I begged at so many places, to get meds, to get help and they all told my that being hypo was no big deal, it won't kill you... and I'd tell them that I didn't have a gland... I wasn't just hypo.. they fried my gland and that I'd die without meds... and no one cared....

Now I need to stop crying... I need a joke... bad!!!! and in the mean time... I want everyone to give a shout.... thanking that jerk for setting me free so that I can be me again.... I'm so much better, walking and breathing and living again with the right meds and the right dose. And even if I am crying now... it's a good cry.. not like I did for so many years... crying all the time.. the sun would go behind a cloud and I'd cry and the commercial on TV had a baby getting a new diaper and I'd cry, and a movie would come on and I'd cry for some dumb reason... at least now I cry for a reason, if it's a dumb one!!!!

....perfect timing... On TV, right now... the National Pie Championships.. that will put me in a good mood.... maybe I'll bake a pie after the show!!! Everyone is invited for pie!!!!

Topper ()

[Guest guest]

It's never going to be a woman's fault for being a trusting soul, Topper. It's going to be those who are untrustworthy's fault for being who THEY are! Now I just have to thank God every single day that I WAS the way I was, because that's the way I should have been able to be. Does that make sense here? It is the predator who is at fault, not the other way around, and I thank God every day that I never thought that way at all. All 3 men who did to me what you are talking about (two husbands and one boyfriend after that) are dead at an early age, long before I ever reached the age I'm at (54). I was widowed by the first one, I divorced the second one, and the boyfriend died of throat cancer way too soon. We're not innocent, BUT we were trusting, as we should have been able to be, but were taken advantage of, because of a giving and loving spirit. I was bitter for a long time, but now I see the journey that has taken me where I am, and I'm so glad that I wasn't anything like the partners that I hooked up with. It is THEIR loss, not mine or yours. Were they totally INSANE?! What a FIND we were, lol!

Re: relationships and this disease - a progressive rant

I can relate... so much of what happened to me, the emotional stuff hit me through those 'magic' years... and then when my mind and emotions had reached the mid range, before I crashed bad hypo I found a man that said he loved me more than anything... that being with me showed him what true love really was and that he couldn't picture being without me... He was there, holding my hand when I was first using the crutches... and would jump up to get things for me so that I didnt' have to... but he didn't baby me.. I still did the chores while he was at work.. he was just really attentive when he was home...

I remember (adult topic, kids go away now) we were in bed one night.. and sleeping was getting bad for me... I had just started nesting so I was 8 inches higher than he in bed. He rolled over to kiss me before we went to sleep and then grunted and mumbled when he had to lift up on one arm to reach me.. He never said anything, at the time or later... but I had this thing inside of me that said that grunt was his first vocalization that I was too much effort.

He was supportive when I lost my home... and my car.. saying not to worry, when things were all settled and we could be 'official' he'd take care of me... and I'd take care of him... neither of us would ever have to worry about anything again..... and then later to find out all those years he'd been having affairs.... both men and women....

Was it my being hypo.... so slow with reacting, trying so hard not to jump to conclusions that allowed me to accept some of his stories? I know for a long time I was kicking myself for being so dumb, for letting him fool me soo thoroughly.. was it me.... or the hypo?

This jack(* & tossed me out two weeks before I was to go on his insurance... I had only a few pills left on my prescription... and desperately needed insurance for labs and more pills.. .and he tells me to pack up my stuff, he's moving someone else in...

sigh

I have to remember the good that came out of what he did.... as I sit here balling right now.. hurt and angry at what he did..... if he had not done what he did I would have still be underdosed on the synthetics, I would still be on crutches, or in a wheelchair.... I wouldn't have reached that point where I thought my heart would just stop and I'd drop dead so I had to do something, anything, safe or not.... or I would die..... and that is when I found the natural and in just a few months was leaving the crutches in the corner..... and then learned about what the docs had been doing wrong.. that the docs didn't care.

The sad part.. the truly truly sad part... the man that he pretended to be??? I still love that man with all my heart... but the man that he really is.... I could castrate him with a broken bottle without a second thought.

I remember that summer, three years ago... listening to my heart... beating so slow... and my breathing so slow.. and then I'd stop breathing... I just didn't have it in me to do the work to breathe.... I'd sit here wondering if some day my body just wouldn't start breathing again... if one night I'd go to bed and my breathing would stop and I wouldn't know it and just never wake up.... I begged at so many places, to get meds, to get help and they all told my that being hypo was no big deal, it won't kill you... and I'd tell them that I didn't have a gland... I wasn't just hypo.. they fried my gland and that I'd die without meds... and no one cared....

Now I need to stop crying... I need a joke... bad!!!! and in the mean time... I want everyone to give a shout.... thanking that jerk for setting me free so that I can be me again.... I'm so much better, walking and breathing and living again with the right meds and the right dose. And even if I am crying now... it's a good cry.. not like I did for so many years... crying all the time.. the sun would go behind a cloud and I'd cry and the commercial on TV had a baby getting a new diaper and I'd cry, and a movie would come on and I'd cry for some dumb reason... at least now I cry for a reason, if it's a dumb one!!!!

....perfect timing... On TV, right now... the National Pie Championships.. that will put me in a good mood.... maybe I'll bake a pie after the show!!! Everyone is invited for pie!!!!

Topper ()

[Guest guest]

Ya know what gets me, Topper? Most thyroid patients are women, right? But when a man gets thyroid disease, it may actually be the worst red flag and, frankly, even more dangerous, because it simply isn't as common. AND, when a man has nodules, the red flag REALLY goes up, because, in HIS case, it is more likely, if HE develops nodules, that they will be cancerous. They reeeeaaaaalllllyyyy need to watch what they think and say, even particularly on account of these facts. Seems like so many now, are looking fro a "free ride" from a woman, and that just doesn't cut it with me any more. I DO love men, but I see soooooo much of this "out there". They're going to be old too, they're going to have physical problems, too. Isn't this just flat selfishness, i.e., they actually want a 15 yr old healthy nurse to take care of them, when it all goes downhill with THEM. That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it, lol.

Re: relationships and this disease - a progressive rant

You said it very well... I was in IM with a guy that I met a few years ago when I was man hunting... whole long story with that... this guy is exactly half my age, 24, but we're both geeks and talk from time to time... I'm a co-moderator for his geeky group. This was the first one on one chat that we've probably had in two years. He asked what I was doing to keep busy now days and I mentioned being involved with my support group and website... he asked support for what and I said Thyroid. He didn't respond for several minutes... not that uncommon in IM he may have been chatting with someone else at the same time... When he came back he said 'that's like medical, right?' I said yeah.... then he says 'do you have it'... I didn't really feel like going through the whole spiel so I just said yeah.... He's in Australia.... I'm in Minnesota, he's 24 years my junior... and suddenly he has to go.

.... he has to go... we'd been chatting for a couple of hours... geeky stuff, about the geek group... about dating. The prospects either of us have had since we last gabbed.... and the word thyroid, not even really knowing what it was, other than medical, suddenly he was busy.

When I was cruising the singles chats and found someone that was interesting to talk to and things got around to major interests... or past that and you start the confessions, like smoking.. divorce.. that stuff... and I'd bring up thyroid I'd say 95% of the time they would then ask if that meant that I was fat.... The other five percent weren't really all that concerned with body image... they were more concerned about the person that I was.... Okay.. that's cool.... a small percentage of those that considered the insides more important were also fat fetishists....

I guess my point is the same as one that you were making ... why do folks run?

As far as doc's not caring... Oh, yeah. I agree with that.... cut out the gland and make money... then just give out pills, ignore symptoms and quality of life, they got their buck and you won't actually die...it's win win and cash for them... Radiation.. that's even better... give you a pill and shoot you out the door so as not to contaminate them, charge a bunch of money and you won't actually die..... They made me sign a release form relieving them of ANY and ALL responsibility they handed me the pill and told me to leave the building...

Arrggghhhhhh

I know we've said it here time and time again.... but how would they feel if they had to live like us for a couple of days.... no libido, no energy, can't stay awake, mortally afraid of food, people all around you call you a lazy fat bum. Then the wise doc telling you it's all in your head, take more pills, get your lazy butt off the couch, go exercise, stop stuffing your face with candy and cake, and go home and let me see someone that needs my help.... And then mumbling about fat women and their stupid excuses.....

You're right.. time to stop before I blow my stack.

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Ya know what gets me, Topper? Most thyroid patients are women, right? But when a man gets thyroid disease, it may actually be the worst red flag and, frankly, even more dangerous, because it simply isn't as common. AND, when a man has nodules, the red flag REALLY goes up, because, in HIS case, it is more likely, if HE develops nodules, that they will be cancerous. They reeeeaaaaalllllyyyy need to watch what they think and say, even particularly on account of these facts. Seems like so many now, are looking fro a "free ride" from a woman, and that just doesn't cut it with me any more. I DO love men, but I see soooooo much of this "out there". They're going to be old too, they're going to have physical problems, too. Isn't this just flat selfishness, i.e., they actually want a 15 yr old healthy nurse to take care of them, when it all goes downhill with THEM. That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it, lol.

Re: relationships and this disease - a progressive rant

You said it very well... I was in IM with a guy that I met a few years ago when I was man hunting... whole long story with that... this guy is exactly half my age, 24, but we're both geeks and talk from time to time... I'm a co-moderator for his geeky group. This was the first one on one chat that we've probably had in two years. He asked what I was doing to keep busy now days and I mentioned being involved with my support group and website... he asked support for what and I said Thyroid. He didn't respond for several minutes... not that uncommon in IM he may have been chatting with someone else at the same time... When he came back he said 'that's like medical, right?' I said yeah.... then he says 'do you have it'... I didn't really feel like going through the whole spiel so I just said yeah.... He's in Australia.... I'm in Minnesota, he's 24 years my junior... and suddenly he has to go.

.... he has to go... we'd been chatting for a couple of hours... geeky stuff, about the geek group... about dating. The prospects either of us have had since we last gabbed.... and the word thyroid, not even really knowing what it was, other than medical, suddenly he was busy.

When I was cruising the singles chats and found someone that was interesting to talk to and things got around to major interests... or past that and you start the confessions, like smoking.. divorce.. that stuff... and I'd bring up thyroid I'd say 95% of the time they would then ask if that meant that I was fat.... The other five percent weren't really all that concerned with body image... they were more concerned about the person that I was.... Okay.. that's cool.... a small percentage of those that considered the insides more important were also fat fetishists....

I guess my point is the same as one that you were making ... why do folks run?

As far as doc's not caring... Oh, yeah. I agree with that.... cut out the gland and make money... then just give out pills, ignore symptoms and quality of life, they got their buck and you won't actually die...it's win win and cash for them... Radiation.. that's even better... give you a pill and shoot you out the door so as not to contaminate them, charge a bunch of money and you won't actually die..... They made me sign a release form relieving them of ANY and ALL responsibility they handed me the pill and told me to leave the building...

Arrggghhhhhh

I know we've said it here time and time again.... but how would they feel if they had to live like us for a couple of days.... no libido, no energy, can't stay awake, mortally afraid of food, people all around you call you a lazy fat bum. Then the wise doc telling you it's all in your head, take more pills, get your lazy butt off the couch, go exercise, stop stuffing your face with candy and cake, and go home and let me see someone that needs my help.... And then mumbling about fat women and their stupid excuses.....

You're right.. time to stop before I blow my stack.

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Sing it sista!

Re: relationships and this disease - a

progressive rant

> you are the better person, and as much as he hurt you, you will

> always have that last laugh. i just love running into exes

> i was at work last weekend and my ex was at the bar. years ago he

> was seeing me as well as this other girl at the same time. of course

> i busted don juan and that relationship was done. so he's on the

> phone with that same girl arguing all night long. as if i wasnt

> tickled enough by this, on my way home to my fiance and my 2

> beautiful children, i see him walking, in the freezing cold, with

> only a sweatshirt, walking all the way home. probably about a 2 hour

> walk. lol, maybe i'm a bitch, but i'm still smiling thinking about

> it. sweet sweet karma. i love it.

>

>

>

> >

> > Mine is paying the price...he's alone again now... and stuck with

> the

> > house that they bought together.... He hasn't approached me in

> over a

> > year.... I kinda hope he does... I'll get to laugh at him for

> choosing

> > the wrong one... hehehehehhe

> >

> > Topper ()

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That's true... love means that you are there for someone... no matter what... if they aren't there during the bad times.... junk 'em.. they aren't worth your time.

Same goes for friends... if they aren't there when you need 'em... dump 'em.... I've had to dump a few in the last few years.... I have enough to deal with without having to deal with someone being two faced and a poop.

How many times should you spend HOURS sitting and waiting for someone to show up, when they said they would, and not have them show? Explanation needed here... in this house I am in my office most all the time.. the rest of the house really isn't mine to use.... I live back here.... so when someone comes over, if they knock on the door, I can't hear them... the could jump up and down and scream out there and I wouldn't hear them..... so when someone is coming over I have to go out to that part of the house and wait... if the folks are home and they are sitting in that room watching TV or talking.. that means I sit outside... and when it's raining or cold.... that isn't fun.... and when the person, who said that they were coming at such and such a time doesn't show..... I'm not a happy camper... and when that same person does it over and over and over again.... I reached a point where I told them to stuff it... don't call me any more.. don't make plans with me any more.. then you won't have to worry about me getting mad at your standing me up any more.

The last guy that did this to me, just a friend, invited me for a day trip.. he had to go upstate running errands and had to come by this way on his way up and thought it might be fun to pick me up, I don't get out much, and we could gab and visit.... he'd get company for the boring trip and I'd get out and see some of the world... I enjoyed his company, we had great fun gabbing.. the errands to be made were short... maybe five or ten minutes at a stop, so no big deal for me to wait in the car while he did them.. it promised to be a FUN day.... So I get up that morning... shower, dress, get my pills set up for the trip, mini meals to take along so that I could eat on time... all set, and sitting out side that beautiful morning about ten minutes before he was due to show..... An hour later I went inside... putting a note on the door to call me from the pay phone down the road if he made it..... He never made it.... it was about a month later when he called and said 'oh, the trip got cancelled the day before so there was no reason to head up there'...

I'll let your imagination run through what I said to him....

The last gal that did this to me..... I met her through Freecycle, she had some broken computers and I just thought it would be fun to spend a day out.... she picked me up (I don't drive any more) and we headed to her place... I expected that we'd both be working on machines, she had four of them that were in need of care) Nope... I was set up to work on them while she sat on the couch doing her craft projects... I got one fixed and was to come back the next day to work on the others.... Okay... I said that I'd do this, I'll do it.... She picked me up the second day and back I went.. this day she was a bit more involved and it was starting to get more fun... we got another machine working and set up a wireless network for her. Cool... So the other two machines needed to be finished up and we planned on the following weekend. She canceled the morning that she was to get me..... So I went on with my day.... we rescheduled for the following weekend. I left my geeky geer in my mobile case. I got a job to do here...and had to unpack stuff to work, it was a paying job... Good...... she said that she would be busy the next weekend but for sure it would be the following weekend... okay... I re packed the wheelie case so it would be ready to go.... This went on for a couple more weeks.... then I got another job here.... I had to unpack the case again, to get at what I needed to do the job.... and when I got done with it I put all my stuff away, emptying the wheelie case and getting my life back in order... I'd been all flummoxed for about six weeks. When she calls back on the following Friday and that she'll be picking me up bright and early the next morning... I say no... I'm not going to spend the two hours required to pack all my gear back in the wheelie case to be stood up again. Period... for a paying job, yeah... I'll do it... but for free work for someone that I thought needed a hand? not after being blown off that many times... no sir....

Whew... guess I needed to get that out of my system... wow!!!

Last thought... I have a pager.... I have a code for the pager... If someone that has something planned with me can't make it, if something comes up.... all they have to do is call my pager and enter the code.. it's 86... the plans are "86'd" easy, right? Yet these poops that kept standing me up... couldn't even do that.... It's not like I needed any explanation, or even an apology... just a simple message on my pager to let me know that they weren't coming and that I could go on with my day and not sit out side forever..... or better, code me soon enough so that I haven't even got all ready to go out...

I guess I ask too much of people...

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On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 21:41:16 -0000 "kitasha59" writes:

I got one for you guys. I remember sitting there shaking and trembling thinking I was losing my mind. I didn't know what was going on inside me just that something wasn't right. The anxiety level so so high in my body that I would just lay on the floor clawing at it. My husband at the time and I were scheduled to go on a trip to Mexico the following week. When I told him I was really sick and didn't think I could go he said ,"well even if you don't go I am going to go because I really need this vacation". What a selfish ass!! I was diagnosed severly hyperthyroid. I did end up going on the trip only because I was so drugged out from the Zanax they gave me for the anxiety. I never forgot how he treated me and yes I did divorce him several years later. The true test of love is being there through the good times and bad. Lois