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In a message dated 3/3/2006 7:21:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

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Most of the kids here will reach

adulthood. they will encounter the same problems as we do. We adults

have feelings and want to feel that we can make a positive change on

others lives. We all feel really lonely and im sure we all dont care

thif you dont know our whole life story of all the crap that went wrong

but we like to have constructive conversations too.

Chantelle,

As the parent of an older CHARGE'r I have something to share with

you. My Mark is 22 and is non verbal. He functions at a lower level than you

or Chip. There are a lot of times on the list that I fell left out to. We are

way past the many surgeries of the younger years and have a whole new set of

issues. I know one Mom who no longer is on the list because she felt left

out too. Even if I don't respond to you I always red your posts with great

interest. And I will confess at times I wish Mark was doing some of the things

you are able to do and accomplish. I just wanted to share a viewpoint you might

not have considered.

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In a message dated 3/3/2006 7:21:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

peppermint_chey@... writes:

Most of the kids here will reach

adulthood. they will encounter the same problems as we do. We adults

have feelings and want to feel that we can make a positive change on

others lives. We all feel really lonely and im sure we all dont care

thif you dont know our whole life story of all the crap that went wrong

but we like to have constructive conversations too.

Chantelle,

As the parent of an older CHARGE'r I have something to share with

you. My Mark is 22 and is non verbal. He functions at a lower level than you

or Chip. There are a lot of times on the list that I fell left out to. We are

way past the many surgeries of the younger years and have a whole new set of

issues. I know one Mom who no longer is on the list because she felt left

out too. Even if I don't respond to you I always red your posts with great

interest. And I will confess at times I wish Mark was doing some of the things

you are able to do and accomplish. I just wanted to share a viewpoint you might

not have considered.

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In a message dated 3/3/2006 7:21:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

peppermint_chey@... writes:

Most of the kids here will reach

adulthood. they will encounter the same problems as we do. We adults

have feelings and want to feel that we can make a positive change on

others lives. We all feel really lonely and im sure we all dont care

thif you dont know our whole life story of all the crap that went wrong

but we like to have constructive conversations too.

Chantelle,

As the parent of an older CHARGE'r I have something to share with

you. My Mark is 22 and is non verbal. He functions at a lower level than you

or Chip. There are a lot of times on the list that I fell left out to. We are

way past the many surgeries of the younger years and have a whole new set of

issues. I know one Mom who no longer is on the list because she felt left

out too. Even if I don't respond to you I always red your posts with great

interest. And I will confess at times I wish Mark was doing some of the things

you are able to do and accomplish. I just wanted to share a viewpoint you might

not have considered.

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I too, have thought I should go off list. My early years information is

old, outdated.

I don't remember when Di got her first tooth, or what formulas I pushed thru

g-tube-

they were good-except for the night I blew the balloon with a grape seed-and

at 3am

that little balloon sounded like a sonic boom. I just stared at her face in

shock

waiting for the sign that the most awful thing had just happened. My poor

old sleep deprived brain was sure I had just blown up the baby. Most of what I

remember were those types of situations, which I figure the young mothers

don't need to hear.

But by asking questions, and from venturing forth some ideas, I've found I

can participate,

and that everyone has been most gracious just by ignoring what doesn't apply

to, or have

meaning for them, and then sharing what might be similar.

So, yes, Mark may have different challenges than , or some of the other

adult chargers,

but learning about the differences is as helpful as learning about the

similarities.

I know you have 22 years of experience with CHARGE. You can't get any more

relevent than that. Did you find the information on HANDLE to be meaningful

for Mark? Have you tried similar therapies that either helped or didn't help?

Forgive my ignorance-does Mark sign?

Is he at home with you every day? Do you still have services, or respite

help?

There is much you can teach us, and I look forward to learning from you.

in Ma.

Mom to , 20 yrs old (CHARGE), 22 yrs. and partner to Alan (12

years now)

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Chantelle,

Your posts can definitely NOT be described as " meaningless stuff " and let me

tell you for sure that you and the older people with CHARGE do make a HUGE

contribution to us understanding our younger children and preparing to

support them as they grow up. You are also a valued member of this list.

Look, you stop posting for a while and you have been missed. What does that

say?

I think most of us would really love to be able to have more dialogues on

the list but it is really hard to respond to everything we would like to

because of time constraints. I for one have unread mail creeping up to 300

right now. There are times when we simply have not had the time to read

everything never mind to respond. I am also guilty of starring things to

remind me to respond and never getting round to it. You kow how it is from

when you were moving homes, starting new job etc. Lots to do, little time

to do it in.

Darn, got sidetracked by shopping and lost my thread. I am sure it was not

very thrilling anyway, so you have a good weekend and rest assured no-one

wants to ignore anyone.

Flo trying to fit everything into a few hours of not being at work and not

having children with me.

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Chantelle,

Your posts can definitely NOT be described as " meaningless stuff " and let me

tell you for sure that you and the older people with CHARGE do make a HUGE

contribution to us understanding our younger children and preparing to

support them as they grow up. You are also a valued member of this list.

Look, you stop posting for a while and you have been missed. What does that

say?

I think most of us would really love to be able to have more dialogues on

the list but it is really hard to respond to everything we would like to

because of time constraints. I for one have unread mail creeping up to 300

right now. There are times when we simply have not had the time to read

everything never mind to respond. I am also guilty of starring things to

remind me to respond and never getting round to it. You kow how it is from

when you were moving homes, starting new job etc. Lots to do, little time

to do it in.

Darn, got sidetracked by shopping and lost my thread. I am sure it was not

very thrilling anyway, so you have a good weekend and rest assured no-one

wants to ignore anyone.

Flo trying to fit everything into a few hours of not being at work and not

having children with me.

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Chantelle,

Your posts can definitely NOT be described as " meaningless stuff " and let me

tell you for sure that you and the older people with CHARGE do make a HUGE

contribution to us understanding our younger children and preparing to

support them as they grow up. You are also a valued member of this list.

Look, you stop posting for a while and you have been missed. What does that

say?

I think most of us would really love to be able to have more dialogues on

the list but it is really hard to respond to everything we would like to

because of time constraints. I for one have unread mail creeping up to 300

right now. There are times when we simply have not had the time to read

everything never mind to respond. I am also guilty of starring things to

remind me to respond and never getting round to it. You kow how it is from

when you were moving homes, starting new job etc. Lots to do, little time

to do it in.

Darn, got sidetracked by shopping and lost my thread. I am sure it was not

very thrilling anyway, so you have a good weekend and rest assured no-one

wants to ignore anyone.

Flo trying to fit everything into a few hours of not being at work and not

having children with me.

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Hey Chantelle,

Sometimes I feel like I don't know what the answers are when you have

questions. I wish I did - that's no excuse for not always replying back though.

I don't want you to feel left out -keep posting! I always read and am

interested even if I don't always respond!

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Hey Chantelle,

Sometimes I feel like I don't know what the answers are when you have

questions. I wish I did - that's no excuse for not always replying back though.

I don't want you to feel left out -keep posting! I always read and am

interested even if I don't always respond!

Weir

Visit the Weir family online: http://ca.geocities.com/weirfamilyrogers

Home: lisaweir@...

Work: lisa.weir@...

Phone:

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Hi Chantelle,

Number One-Glad we found you being fine-even if a little hung over. I

figured you'd

rather just forget about that-you know? LOL.

So, I was thinking that there would be new news coming now that the doctor

is finally going to help with the osdp (did i get that right)?

What would help me tremendously is if you would explain your job to me.

All of it. Where do U go, how do U get there, how many hours each week,

what to you do when you're there. What do you like about it, what don't you

like-I mean EVERYthing!!!!

and I are having a really hard time getting anyone to tell us what work

opportunities might be available to her, and what training she might need.

Also, do you have a job coach. What does she do for you. Does she help-

I could go on for days....So, if you're up for it, I am.

Thank you so much.

in Ma.

Mom to , 20 yrs old (CHARGE), 22 yrs. and partner to Alan (12

years now)

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Hi Chantelle,

Number One-Glad we found you being fine-even if a little hung over. I

figured you'd

rather just forget about that-you know? LOL.

So, I was thinking that there would be new news coming now that the doctor

is finally going to help with the osdp (did i get that right)?

What would help me tremendously is if you would explain your job to me.

All of it. Where do U go, how do U get there, how many hours each week,

what to you do when you're there. What do you like about it, what don't you

like-I mean EVERYthing!!!!

and I are having a really hard time getting anyone to tell us what work

opportunities might be available to her, and what training she might need.

Also, do you have a job coach. What does she do for you. Does she help-

I could go on for days....So, if you're up for it, I am.

Thank you so much.

in Ma.

Mom to , 20 yrs old (CHARGE), 22 yrs. and partner to Alan (12

years now)

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and ,

I am not sure I can quite claim to be a " young mum " at the age of 41 but I

can certainly claim to be a mum to a young child with CHARGE. I for one

love reading posts from the " older mums and dads " ( tee hee) but rarely feel

I have anything useful to offer as in CHARGE terms, I am only 5 years old.

All our children have such different issues that anything offered on this

list will ring bells with someone, so I don't think anyone is without

valuable contribution to make. However, I do appreciate that we are all

here to learn as well as to teach, support and receive support, (and

to downright have a good moan or brag to people who understand) and that it

must sometimes be frustrating for the parents of older children to always be

the trail blazers and not have enough people on here who relate to their

immediate experiences or who can advise them. This, I am sure, probably

applies to the adults with CHARGE too sometimes.

Please be assured all of you that we value your input greatly and that we

feel for you when you tell your " stories " , it's just that we don't feel

quite qualified enough to comment. I have learned much from those who have

gone ahead of me. Oh, and , I'm sorry but I did giggle mercilessly

about the burst balloon and your thought that the baby had burst.

Rambling thanks to a glass of white......

Flo

>

> ,

> But by asking questions, and from venturing forth some ideas, I've found I

> can participate, and that everyone has been most gracious just by ignoring

> what doesn't apply to, or have

> meaning for them, and then sharing what might be similar.

> So, yes, Mark may have different challenges than , or some of

> the other adult chargers, but learning about the differences is as helpful

> as learning about the similarities.

> I know you have 22 years of experience with CHARGE. You can't get any more

> relevent than that. Did you find the information on HANDLE to

> be meaningful

> for Mark? Have you tried similar therapies that either helped or didn't

> help?

> Forgive my ignorance-does Mark sign?

> Is he at home with you every day? Do you still have services, or respite

> help?

> There is much you can teach us, and I look forward to learning from you.

> in Ma.

> Mom to , 20 yrs old (CHARGE), 22 yrs. and partner to Alan (12

> years now)

>

>

>

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and ,

I am not sure I can quite claim to be a " young mum " at the age of 41 but I

can certainly claim to be a mum to a young child with CHARGE. I for one

love reading posts from the " older mums and dads " ( tee hee) but rarely feel

I have anything useful to offer as in CHARGE terms, I am only 5 years old.

All our children have such different issues that anything offered on this

list will ring bells with someone, so I don't think anyone is without

valuable contribution to make. However, I do appreciate that we are all

here to learn as well as to teach, support and receive support, (and

to downright have a good moan or brag to people who understand) and that it

must sometimes be frustrating for the parents of older children to always be

the trail blazers and not have enough people on here who relate to their

immediate experiences or who can advise them. This, I am sure, probably

applies to the adults with CHARGE too sometimes.

Please be assured all of you that we value your input greatly and that we

feel for you when you tell your " stories " , it's just that we don't feel

quite qualified enough to comment. I have learned much from those who have

gone ahead of me. Oh, and , I'm sorry but I did giggle mercilessly

about the burst balloon and your thought that the baby had burst.

Rambling thanks to a glass of white......

Flo

>

> ,

> But by asking questions, and from venturing forth some ideas, I've found I

> can participate, and that everyone has been most gracious just by ignoring

> what doesn't apply to, or have

> meaning for them, and then sharing what might be similar.

> So, yes, Mark may have different challenges than , or some of

> the other adult chargers, but learning about the differences is as helpful

> as learning about the similarities.

> I know you have 22 years of experience with CHARGE. You can't get any more

> relevent than that. Did you find the information on HANDLE to

> be meaningful

> for Mark? Have you tried similar therapies that either helped or didn't

> help?

> Forgive my ignorance-does Mark sign?

> Is he at home with you every day? Do you still have services, or respite

> help?

> There is much you can teach us, and I look forward to learning from you.

> in Ma.

> Mom to , 20 yrs old (CHARGE), 22 yrs. and partner to Alan (12

> years now)

>

>

>

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and ,

I am not sure I can quite claim to be a " young mum " at the age of 41 but I

can certainly claim to be a mum to a young child with CHARGE. I for one

love reading posts from the " older mums and dads " ( tee hee) but rarely feel

I have anything useful to offer as in CHARGE terms, I am only 5 years old.

All our children have such different issues that anything offered on this

list will ring bells with someone, so I don't think anyone is without

valuable contribution to make. However, I do appreciate that we are all

here to learn as well as to teach, support and receive support, (and

to downright have a good moan or brag to people who understand) and that it

must sometimes be frustrating for the parents of older children to always be

the trail blazers and not have enough people on here who relate to their

immediate experiences or who can advise them. This, I am sure, probably

applies to the adults with CHARGE too sometimes.

Please be assured all of you that we value your input greatly and that we

feel for you when you tell your " stories " , it's just that we don't feel

quite qualified enough to comment. I have learned much from those who have

gone ahead of me. Oh, and , I'm sorry but I did giggle mercilessly

about the burst balloon and your thought that the baby had burst.

Rambling thanks to a glass of white......

Flo

>

> ,

> But by asking questions, and from venturing forth some ideas, I've found I

> can participate, and that everyone has been most gracious just by ignoring

> what doesn't apply to, or have

> meaning for them, and then sharing what might be similar.

> So, yes, Mark may have different challenges than , or some of

> the other adult chargers, but learning about the differences is as helpful

> as learning about the similarities.

> I know you have 22 years of experience with CHARGE. You can't get any more

> relevent than that. Did you find the information on HANDLE to

> be meaningful

> for Mark? Have you tried similar therapies that either helped or didn't

> help?

> Forgive my ignorance-does Mark sign?

> Is he at home with you every day? Do you still have services, or respite

> help?

> There is much you can teach us, and I look forward to learning from you.

> in Ma.

> Mom to , 20 yrs old (CHARGE), 22 yrs. and partner to Alan (12

> years now)

>

>

>

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I was responding to Chatelle's e mail of feeling left out. I post

often. Mark is still in school special ed and LOVES it. He does sign and has

an interpreter at school. He is not real elaborate with signing but does sign

all the time now. He is at home with us. He was through multiple surgeries

the first few years of life and I pipe in from time to time. It is so special

to be able to share all the wisdom we have on this list. I think we ALL are a

very special group.

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I was responding to Chatelle's e mail of feeling left out. I post

often. Mark is still in school special ed and LOVES it. He does sign and has

an interpreter at school. He is not real elaborate with signing but does sign

all the time now. He is at home with us. He was through multiple surgeries

the first few years of life and I pipe in from time to time. It is so special

to be able to share all the wisdom we have on this list. I think we ALL are a

very special group.

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It was quite hilarious, although I am sure not to you at the time. Kim

> Oh, and , I'm sorry but I did giggle mercilessly

> about the burst balloon and your thought that the baby had burst.

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It was quite hilarious, although I am sure not to you at the time. Kim

> Oh, and , I'm sorry but I did giggle mercilessly

> about the burst balloon and your thought that the baby had burst.

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It was quite hilarious, although I am sure not to you at the time. Kim

> Oh, and , I'm sorry but I did giggle mercilessly

> about the burst balloon and your thought that the baby had burst.

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>

> It was quite hilarious, although I am sure not to you at the time. Kim

>

>

>

>

> > Oh, and , I'm sorry but I did giggle mercilessly

> > about the burst balloon and your thought that the baby had burst.

>

>

>

>

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i love everyone in here xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

>

> It was quite hilarious, although I am sure not to you at the time. Kim

>

>

>

>

> > Oh, and , I'm sorry but I did giggle mercilessly

> > about the burst balloon and your thought that the baby had burst.

>

>

>

>

> CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE:

> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995

>

> Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada.

> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

> (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca)

>

> 8th International

> CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at

> www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

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I guess sometimes if people dont reply its hard to know that posts are

actually being read. I guess we just have to remember that people do read,

even if they dont post.

:)

Belinda

>

> ,

> I was responding to Chatelle's e mail of feeling left out. I

> post

> often. Mark is still in school special ed and LOVES it. He does sign and

> has

> an interpreter at school. He is not real elaborate with signing but does

> sign

> all the time now. He is at home with us. He was through multiple

> surgeries

> the first few years of life and I pipe in from time to time. It is so

> special

> to be able to share all the wisdom we have on this list. I think we ALL

> are a

> very special group.

>

>

>

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I guess sometimes if people dont reply its hard to know that posts are

actually being read. I guess we just have to remember that people do read,

even if they dont post.

:)

Belinda

>

> ,

> I was responding to Chatelle's e mail of feeling left out. I

> post

> often. Mark is still in school special ed and LOVES it. He does sign and

> has

> an interpreter at school. He is not real elaborate with signing but does

> sign

> all the time now. He is at home with us. He was through multiple

> surgeries

> the first few years of life and I pipe in from time to time. It is so

> special

> to be able to share all the wisdom we have on this list. I think we ALL

> are a

> very special group.

>

>

>

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I guess sometimes if people dont reply its hard to know that posts are

actually being read. I guess we just have to remember that people do read,

even if they dont post.

:)

Belinda

>

> ,

> I was responding to Chatelle's e mail of feeling left out. I

> post

> often. Mark is still in school special ed and LOVES it. He does sign and

> has

> an interpreter at school. He is not real elaborate with signing but does

> sign

> all the time now. He is at home with us. He was through multiple

> surgeries

> the first few years of life and I pipe in from time to time. It is so

> special

> to be able to share all the wisdom we have on this list. I think we ALL

> are a

> very special group.

>

>

>

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Belinda,

You're right! I have so many posts that I can't even begin to think of

responding to them all. Chantelle, if I missed responding something to you I am

sorry. You are a remarkable woman (as is Bellied, Ellen, ...) who I

love to read about. I just love reading posts from or about all the adults on

this list.

Bonnie, mom to a 23, Patty CHARGE 21, and wife to

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