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Hi ;

I for one am someone who is living life as it ever was post thyca

treatment. I had my TT in August of 99, RAI in April of 00 - and

sure that was an annoying time, the LID, the being hypo.. I had a

scan in Dec of 2000, again an annoying time but not that awful, and I

had another scan in May of 2002 - done with thyrogen so the only hard

part was the LID.

I do everything I ever did before thyca and more. Having had thyroid

cancer has made only 2 major differences in my life - 1) the need for

periodic checkups to monitor it and 2) that my life is way more

important to me now, and I plan on spending it more purposefully.

I've gone back to school to get a degree in Veterinary Technology,

because I always wanted to work with animals, and I'm not getting any

younger so I figured I should start now. I work, I have a Girl Scout

troop, I'm active in training my dog , and doing volunteer work with

her, I'm on the town zoning board, and volunteer at the MSPCA. I'm

as active and as busy as I ever was before. I still ski, I still

bike, I walk for exercise and snowshoe in the winter.

Thyca was a big wake up call for me, that yes I am mortal, and yes,

something bad could happen to me. I had two choices, I could curl up

and panic and let this beat me, and view myself as someone with an

illness and a condition that has to be careful because of potential

poor health -- or I could face thyca head on, saying " bring it on "

and use it as something to make me stronger and more determined.

I've spent most of my life being afraid, very afraid of cancer - both

my parents, all my grandparents, even my cat died of cancer - I

figured that cancer was my destiny. Sure enough it was - but it

wasn't a death sentence, it was a chance to make some positive

changes in my life.

So yes there are positive outcomes, being hypo is a pain, I find it

makes me into a very mean strange person - but it goes away.

Following the LID is annoying, although I have spin-doctored it in my

mind to have the LID just be a gourmet challenge rather than the end

of happy eating - sort of like Iron Chef on food TV when they give

them a funny ingredient, like octopus or squid... I kind of enjoy the

LID challenge in a perverse way. I don't even mind the ongoing

followup - it makes me feel like I am taking an active role in

monitoring my health - and making things happen rather than letting

things happen.

Happy New Year - and for all my fellow thyca list members I wish you

a year full of clean scans, happy tests, tasty LID's and lots of

normal life!!

barb

tt 8/99 RAI 4/00 Clean Scans 12/00, 5/02

>

> I'd like to hear some positive outcomes and stories from survivors,

rather than all the negatives. The negatives are obvious. I need some

inspiration and encouragement, as I think we all do.

>

> Thanks and Happy New Year to all of you,

>

>

>

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Hi ,

> (snip)

> I'd like to hear some positive outcomes and stories from survivors,

> rather than all the negatives. The negatives are obvious. I need

> some inspiration and encouragement, as I think we all do.

I read recently that there are something like 11,000 new cases of

thyroid cancer disclosed per year in the United States alone. Only a

very small number of these people - less than 5% - are on this

listserv. Although there are a good few long-term survivors on this

list, my guess is that so many people come here looking for

information because they're experiencing the negative side of thyca -

post-surgery complications, repeat treatments, incomplete or bad

treatment due to the shortage of medical experts in thyroid

cancer...that what you're seeing here is probably a distorted view of

the overall picture. The people who can put a more positive spin on

it are the other 10,000-plus people (not to mention the numbers

outside the USA) who, having had surgery and treatment, manage to pick

themselves up and just get on with their lives.

I'm one of several members who has survived thyroid cancer for 30-plus

years, but I guess that's not all you want to hear, since we know,

intellectually if not emotionally, that most of us - something like

95% in the case of well-differentiated thyroid cancer - are going to

survive this disease and succumb to something completely different.

One of the lessons to me has been - and judging from what I've read

here, to many other visitors to this group - is to help me to discover

the strength within myself. Like many other I started off from the

same base - terrified, confronted by my own mortality, scared of

needles and people in white coats and the unknown procedures looming

before me. When I ws first diagnosed, aged 15, no-one talked about

the *C* word. When I had a recurrence, 20 years ago, the prognosis

after surgery was still uncertain because there was still too little

known about recurrence rates and spread, and I can remember that one

month after surgery, the second time around, I was so uncertain of

what the future held that I couldn't bring myself to buy a new pair of

shoes. Somehow I got through it and in the process I learned to

improve the way that I talked with my doctors, communicate with my

family and colleagues who, if anything, were even more scared than I

was and still couldn't bring themselves to discuss the *C* thing with

me unless I introduced the subject.

Another lesson was to appreciate what I have. Twenty years on from

that moment I can look back and say that life has been good to me,

very, very good. I was able to resume my singing hobby, I have two

children, and I have a busy career which takes me all over the world

(this past year to Bangkok, the USA and many parts of Europe). I've

learned that although I can't (don't) consider myself to be forever

*cured* of thyca, but that it is under control, and that the tricks

involved in remembering to take my thyroxine tablets at the right time

pale by comparison with the tricks I've had to learn to balance my

diabetes and manage my hypertension. And I will never, ever, forget

the sensation of walking through our village a year after surgery and

seeing the crocuses pushing their noses through the snow, and seeing

and feeling the sap rise in the springtime. Each spring is a reminder

of the years I have gained as a result of that surgery, and I also

remember with great sadness that the surgeon who talked me into having

surgery passed away in his prime two years later, a week after his

wife's death and leaving five young children.

I can remember when my doctor(s) told me that I was *cured* and could

put the whole nasty business behind me and forget it. Personally

speaking, I value the memories and would never wish to forget.

I hope that the next year will be better for you and for all thycans

diagnosed or treated in the past year!

Judith (British living in Holland)

dx 1965 pap thyca T4-N1-M0

pt London, England 1965

tt The Netherlands 1982

rai The Netherlands 1982

clean scan and NED since September 1982

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Hi ,

> (snip)

> I'd like to hear some positive outcomes and stories from survivors,

> rather than all the negatives. The negatives are obvious. I need

> some inspiration and encouragement, as I think we all do.

I read recently that there are something like 11,000 new cases of

thyroid cancer disclosed per year in the United States alone. Only a

very small number of these people - less than 5% - are on this

listserv. Although there are a good few long-term survivors on this

list, my guess is that so many people come here looking for

information because they're experiencing the negative side of thyca -

post-surgery complications, repeat treatments, incomplete or bad

treatment due to the shortage of medical experts in thyroid

cancer...that what you're seeing here is probably a distorted view of

the overall picture. The people who can put a more positive spin on

it are the other 10,000-plus people (not to mention the numbers

outside the USA) who, having had surgery and treatment, manage to pick

themselves up and just get on with their lives.

I'm one of several members who has survived thyroid cancer for 30-plus

years, but I guess that's not all you want to hear, since we know,

intellectually if not emotionally, that most of us - something like

95% in the case of well-differentiated thyroid cancer - are going to

survive this disease and succumb to something completely different.

One of the lessons to me has been - and judging from what I've read

here, to many other visitors to this group - is to help me to discover

the strength within myself. Like many other I started off from the

same base - terrified, confronted by my own mortality, scared of

needles and people in white coats and the unknown procedures looming

before me. When I ws first diagnosed, aged 15, no-one talked about

the *C* word. When I had a recurrence, 20 years ago, the prognosis

after surgery was still uncertain because there was still too little

known about recurrence rates and spread, and I can remember that one

month after surgery, the second time around, I was so uncertain of

what the future held that I couldn't bring myself to buy a new pair of

shoes. Somehow I got through it and in the process I learned to

improve the way that I talked with my doctors, communicate with my

family and colleagues who, if anything, were even more scared than I

was and still couldn't bring themselves to discuss the *C* thing with

me unless I introduced the subject.

Another lesson was to appreciate what I have. Twenty years on from

that moment I can look back and say that life has been good to me,

very, very good. I was able to resume my singing hobby, I have two

children, and I have a busy career which takes me all over the world

(this past year to Bangkok, the USA and many parts of Europe). I've

learned that although I can't (don't) consider myself to be forever

*cured* of thyca, but that it is under control, and that the tricks

involved in remembering to take my thyroxine tablets at the right time

pale by comparison with the tricks I've had to learn to balance my

diabetes and manage my hypertension. And I will never, ever, forget

the sensation of walking through our village a year after surgery and

seeing the crocuses pushing their noses through the snow, and seeing

and feeling the sap rise in the springtime. Each spring is a reminder

of the years I have gained as a result of that surgery, and I also

remember with great sadness that the surgeon who talked me into having

surgery passed away in his prime two years later, a week after his

wife's death and leaving five young children.

I can remember when my doctor(s) told me that I was *cured* and could

put the whole nasty business behind me and forget it. Personally

speaking, I value the memories and would never wish to forget.

I hope that the next year will be better for you and for all thycans

diagnosed or treated in the past year!

Judith (British living in Holland)

dx 1965 pap thyca T4-N1-M0

pt London, England 1965

tt The Netherlands 1982

rai The Netherlands 1982

clean scan and NED since September 1982

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<<SNIP>> What I would like to hear more of in this group are how

people have >overcome this disease, can we live life normally after

being >diagnosed with thyca? What about emotions...how do you handle

all of >that and what about those around you, how are they dealing

with it?

>

> I'd like to hear some positive outcomes and stories from survivors,

>rather than all the negatives. The negatives are obvious. I need

>some inspiration and encouragement, as I think we all do.<<SNIP>>

Hi ,

Honest to goodness, I can say that thyca (even having it 2x!) has not

really made it all that difficult for me to live my life normally. I

have gone hypo (can you say TSH=125!!!!) for scans but very few

people around me would be able to tell any difference (I've worked

through all four hypo's---of course, I'm not a doctor or rocket

scientist so it was easy to have a " lighter load " those weeks).

When I'm not hypo, I'm a normal weight, have energy to workout 5x /

week and sleep 7 or 8 hours a night. I think a lot of this has to do

with being able to have the meds regulated correctly and this did

take some diligence up front.

In a weird way, I'm thankful for both my thyca experiences. They

reminded me that I can't control every aspect of my life and that

life is precious. So many people don't figure that out until they are

90, and then it's a little late. Ever since it first hit me at 16,

I've been able to appreciate the beauty in life in ways that only

those who have faced mortality are able. I try to give that same

vision to my family and friends.

For example, my friends at college used to laugh at me for pulling

them out of the cafeteria and running them up to the top of the hill

to see the sunset, but I could see on their faces that they

appreciated me for doing this. My family is amused by how slowly I

walked through the gardens at burg on family vacation, but

they stood with me and smelled the roses. My husband wondered why I

insisted on throwing a Christmas party for my 70 (yes, 70!) closest

friends and family members (and 10 of their kids!) only 5 weeks after

my last surgery, but I watched him join me in delighting in each and

every one of our loved ones in attendance.

Good luck to you!

Juli from NY

12/16/88: nodule noticed (way to spend a 16th bday!)

spring '89: FNA inconclusive

8/14/89: PT, Dx papillary (2.3cm tumor with lymph and strap muscle

involvement)

10/17/89: RAI 90mci

9/12/02: FNA of two lumps--papillary

11/22/02: left modified, central compartment dissection, right

exploration (12 of 40+ nodes positive and 3 small soft cell tumors)

currently take 137.5mcg synthroid / .03 TSH

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<<SNIP>> What I would like to hear more of in this group are how

people have >overcome this disease, can we live life normally after

being >diagnosed with thyca? What about emotions...how do you handle

all of >that and what about those around you, how are they dealing

with it?

>

> I'd like to hear some positive outcomes and stories from survivors,

>rather than all the negatives. The negatives are obvious. I need

>some inspiration and encouragement, as I think we all do.<<SNIP>>

Hi ,

Honest to goodness, I can say that thyca (even having it 2x!) has not

really made it all that difficult for me to live my life normally. I

have gone hypo (can you say TSH=125!!!!) for scans but very few

people around me would be able to tell any difference (I've worked

through all four hypo's---of course, I'm not a doctor or rocket

scientist so it was easy to have a " lighter load " those weeks).

When I'm not hypo, I'm a normal weight, have energy to workout 5x /

week and sleep 7 or 8 hours a night. I think a lot of this has to do

with being able to have the meds regulated correctly and this did

take some diligence up front.

In a weird way, I'm thankful for both my thyca experiences. They

reminded me that I can't control every aspect of my life and that

life is precious. So many people don't figure that out until they are

90, and then it's a little late. Ever since it first hit me at 16,

I've been able to appreciate the beauty in life in ways that only

those who have faced mortality are able. I try to give that same

vision to my family and friends.

For example, my friends at college used to laugh at me for pulling

them out of the cafeteria and running them up to the top of the hill

to see the sunset, but I could see on their faces that they

appreciated me for doing this. My family is amused by how slowly I

walked through the gardens at burg on family vacation, but

they stood with me and smelled the roses. My husband wondered why I

insisted on throwing a Christmas party for my 70 (yes, 70!) closest

friends and family members (and 10 of their kids!) only 5 weeks after

my last surgery, but I watched him join me in delighting in each and

every one of our loved ones in attendance.

Good luck to you!

Juli from NY

12/16/88: nodule noticed (way to spend a 16th bday!)

spring '89: FNA inconclusive

8/14/89: PT, Dx papillary (2.3cm tumor with lymph and strap muscle

involvement)

10/17/89: RAI 90mci

9/12/02: FNA of two lumps--papillary

11/22/02: left modified, central compartment dissection, right

exploration (12 of 40+ nodes positive and 3 small soft cell tumors)

currently take 137.5mcg synthroid / .03 TSH

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> What I would like to hear more of in this group are

>how people have overcome this disease, can we live life

>normally after being diagnosed with thyca?

Hi ,

It's been a very long time since I've been around this board (I

stopped by today to look up info on PET scans---thanks , I

found your comprehensive posting from two weeks ago!) so

maybe I'm a good candidate to reply.

I had my TT and RAI two years ago. After a few months, my life

went *completely* back to normal. I work, I exercise, I go out with

friends, all the stuff I ever did. The only trick was getting my

Synthroid dose correct, which took about 6 months. Don't let the

many negative stories on this board get you down or scare you.

This is a temporary place in your life and you'll be out of it very

soon.

Overall, I'd say that having thyca made me confront my

mortality---yes, I really can die. That has just made me get off

my duff and get to doing stuff that matters to me. Does that

mean I feel glad I got cancer? HELL NO! LOL I'd still rather be

living in ignorance and taking life/health for granted! LOL. But

hey, I was dealt this card so I figured I might as well play it to my

advantage. By now, all the doctor visits and tests have become

completely normal to me.

As far as how do friends/family deal with me, I have become the

person everyone wants to share their health problems with. I

guess going through thyroid cancer makes us more sympathetic

to health situations. I've learned that so many people have so

many other chronic diseases: cholesterol, diabetes, asthma,

allergies, other cancers, I even learned one person has HIV.

We're really not so alone in our medical situation, it's just that

everyone's conditions require different things. I'm just grateful

that on a day-to-day basis, thyca doesn't affect me.

Best of luck to you with your RAI, . And I'd also like to say a

special thanks to the dedicated long-timers on this site. You

guys are providing an incredible service here for all us thycans,

and I hope you get to hear this often: Thank you very much.

A happy and healthy new year to everyone,

--Carmen in nyc

10/00 TT, papillary, 1.6 cm nodule, 6 lymph nodes

11/00 RAI, 100 mCi

12/01 Scan clean, Tg 4, US suspicious for residual thyroid

tissue in thyroid bed

12/02 Scan clean, Tg 5.8, US positive in thyroid bed (5 spots,

each a few milimeters in size), Pet scan positive for 2 of the

spots in thyroid bed and 1 lymph node, another date with Mr. RAI

awaits!

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> What I would like to hear more of in this group are

>how people have overcome this disease, can we live life

>normally after being diagnosed with thyca?

Hi ,

It's been a very long time since I've been around this board (I

stopped by today to look up info on PET scans---thanks , I

found your comprehensive posting from two weeks ago!) so

maybe I'm a good candidate to reply.

I had my TT and RAI two years ago. After a few months, my life

went *completely* back to normal. I work, I exercise, I go out with

friends, all the stuff I ever did. The only trick was getting my

Synthroid dose correct, which took about 6 months. Don't let the

many negative stories on this board get you down or scare you.

This is a temporary place in your life and you'll be out of it very

soon.

Overall, I'd say that having thyca made me confront my

mortality---yes, I really can die. That has just made me get off

my duff and get to doing stuff that matters to me. Does that

mean I feel glad I got cancer? HELL NO! LOL I'd still rather be

living in ignorance and taking life/health for granted! LOL. But

hey, I was dealt this card so I figured I might as well play it to my

advantage. By now, all the doctor visits and tests have become

completely normal to me.

As far as how do friends/family deal with me, I have become the

person everyone wants to share their health problems with. I

guess going through thyroid cancer makes us more sympathetic

to health situations. I've learned that so many people have so

many other chronic diseases: cholesterol, diabetes, asthma,

allergies, other cancers, I even learned one person has HIV.

We're really not so alone in our medical situation, it's just that

everyone's conditions require different things. I'm just grateful

that on a day-to-day basis, thyca doesn't affect me.

Best of luck to you with your RAI, . And I'd also like to say a

special thanks to the dedicated long-timers on this site. You

guys are providing an incredible service here for all us thycans,

and I hope you get to hear this often: Thank you very much.

A happy and healthy new year to everyone,

--Carmen in nyc

10/00 TT, papillary, 1.6 cm nodule, 6 lymph nodes

11/00 RAI, 100 mCi

12/01 Scan clean, Tg 4, US suspicious for residual thyroid

tissue in thyroid bed

12/02 Scan clean, Tg 5.8, US positive in thyroid bed (5 spots,

each a few milimeters in size), Pet scan positive for 2 of the

spots in thyroid bed and 1 lymph node, another date with Mr. RAI

awaits!

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Hello ,

First off, I just want to say that the fact that we are all online, able

to e-mail and find support in each other, and the fact that we are still

alive and breathing, should be a source of encouragement and inspiration!!

When I was diagnosed at age 24, I did not even know what a thyroid was.

Stumbling across the ThyCa website in the middle of the night while crying

and panicked, was the greatest gift to come out of this horrible cancer

experience! I have become empowered by learning about my disease, becoming

proactive in my treatment and the healthcare system. I have made the

greatest bunch of friends who are truly the most intelligent and

compassionate people in the world. On that first scary night after my

diagnosis, they preserved my sanity and will to live. I personally, still

have my good and bad days. We are all here to listen to one another, when we

are needed. Others (myself included) sometimes need to vent. We are all

here to balance one another on this crazy journey. For every sad story,

there is a success story. For all the horror stories, there are stories of

true miracles and inspiration. We need to remember that when dealing with

cancer, even if it is the so-called " good " cancer, there are going to be

trying times. Hopefully all of our stories and experiences lighten the load

for those in need. This group provided me with the best outlet of all for

dealing with cancer. I was fortunate enough to represent ThyCa and become a

support group facilitator. It has allowed me to help myself while helping and

encouraging others! Your thyroid cancer experience is what you make of it.

We will all be here for you through the good and bad times. When there gets

to be too much " negativity " step away from it for a while. When you need a

few words of encouragement, view the archives. You will definitely be amazed

by all the good that comes out of this group! Best Wishes to you and Take

Care! from CT

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Hi ,

I certainly understand the difficulty you have reading all the

negative posts. You are not alone in that regard. I hear that a lot

from new patients... " The posts scare me! " The early years with thyca

are truly the most difficult.

When I was a patient in 1968 I had no one to talk to who had the

disease. I didn't meet a thyca patient for 30 years. I remember

vividly receiving a phone call from one of my doctors 2 days after I

went off meds asking me " Are you very tired? " He, himself, did not

have a full understanding of the hypo process so how was I to

understand it. I went through hypo completely blind to what was going

to happen and how I was going to feel. I was truly on my own to figure

it out.

From my perspective, The thyca listserv is as good as it gets! Those

that are fortunate enough to find this list benefit enormously. It is

very difficult to learn all you have to learn in such a short time.

Just when you think you understand something a variable of that test

is written about. It's like a fire hose that won't shut off. You just

wish it would all go away! With all the complaints, though, comes

learning which will empower you. There is a very strong support system

here, no one is left by the wayside. We are all survivors, all at

different stages but nevertheless, survivors!

My history is so far behind me that when I read my medical

records it seems like someone other than me who experienced it all.

Yet I know I am THAT person and never forget that every test I do now

is as important as those I did 34 years ago. If you would like to

know more read the speech I gave at the first thyca conference on the

thyca website http://www.thyca.org/gail_gundlings_remarks.htm . My

life has been filled with wonderful experiences and joys the most

important of which are now the five grandchildren I am blessed with.

The role cancer played in my life is the perspective it gave me on

life and how to live it.

My journey has been a wonderful one.

Best Wishes to you all for a Happy, Healthy New Year!

Gail

dx: 1968, TT, pap. & foll. well differentiated

w/hurthle cell, RAI, rad.neck dissection,lung surgery,

hashimoto, tg antibody 575, iodine resistant,existing

thyca nodules in lungs. Last surgery 1972

> I'd like to hear some positive outcomes and stories from survivors,

rather than all the negatives. The negatives are obvious. I need some

inspiration and encouragement, as I think we all do.

>

> Thanks and Happy New Year to all of you,

>

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Hi ,

I certainly understand the difficulty you have reading all the

negative posts. You are not alone in that regard. I hear that a lot

from new patients... " The posts scare me! " The early years with thyca

are truly the most difficult.

When I was a patient in 1968 I had no one to talk to who had the

disease. I didn't meet a thyca patient for 30 years. I remember

vividly receiving a phone call from one of my doctors 2 days after I

went off meds asking me " Are you very tired? " He, himself, did not

have a full understanding of the hypo process so how was I to

understand it. I went through hypo completely blind to what was going

to happen and how I was going to feel. I was truly on my own to figure

it out.

From my perspective, The thyca listserv is as good as it gets! Those

that are fortunate enough to find this list benefit enormously. It is

very difficult to learn all you have to learn in such a short time.

Just when you think you understand something a variable of that test

is written about. It's like a fire hose that won't shut off. You just

wish it would all go away! With all the complaints, though, comes

learning which will empower you. There is a very strong support system

here, no one is left by the wayside. We are all survivors, all at

different stages but nevertheless, survivors!

My history is so far behind me that when I read my medical

records it seems like someone other than me who experienced it all.

Yet I know I am THAT person and never forget that every test I do now

is as important as those I did 34 years ago. If you would like to

know more read the speech I gave at the first thyca conference on the

thyca website http://www.thyca.org/gail_gundlings_remarks.htm . My

life has been filled with wonderful experiences and joys the most

important of which are now the five grandchildren I am blessed with.

The role cancer played in my life is the perspective it gave me on

life and how to live it.

My journey has been a wonderful one.

Best Wishes to you all for a Happy, Healthy New Year!

Gail

dx: 1968, TT, pap. & foll. well differentiated

w/hurthle cell, RAI, rad.neck dissection,lung surgery,

hashimoto, tg antibody 575, iodine resistant,existing

thyca nodules in lungs. Last surgery 1972

> I'd like to hear some positive outcomes and stories from survivors,

rather than all the negatives. The negatives are obvious. I need some

inspiration and encouragement, as I think we all do.

>

> Thanks and Happy New Year to all of you,

>

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Gail, I remember that speech and it was a really great one. Sending hugs to

you for this wonderfully helpful and encouraging pos.

and a very happy new year to all of my thyca family!!

t

Hugs all around!!!

Li and June

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> Hi ,

>

> I certainly understand the difficulty you have reading all the

> negative posts. You are not alone in that regard. I hear that a lot

> from new patients... " The posts scare me! " The early years with thyca

> are truly the most difficult.

>

> When I was a patient in 1968 I had no one to talk to who had the

> disease. I didn't meet a thyca patient for 30 years. I remember

> vividly receiving a phone call from one of my doctors 2 days after I

> went off meds asking me " Are you very tired? " He, himself, did not

> have a full understanding of the hypo process so how was I to

> understand it. I went through hypo completely blind to what was going

> to happen and how I was going to feel. I was truly on my own to figure

> it out.

>

> From my perspective, The thyca listserv is as good as it gets! Those

> that are fortunate enough to find this list benefit enormously. It is

> very difficult to learn all you have to learn in such a short time.

> Just when you think you understand something a variable of that test

> is written about. It's like a fire hose that won't shut off. You just

> wish it would all go away! With all the complaints, though, comes

> learning which will empower you. There is a very strong support system

> here, no one is left by the wayside. We are all survivors, all at

> different stages but nevertheless, survivors!

>

> My history is so far behind me that when I read my medical

> records it seems like someone other than me who experienced it all.

> Yet I know I am THAT person and never forget that every test I do now

> is as important as those I did 34 years ago. If you would like to

> know more read the speech I gave at the first thyca conference on the

> thyca website http://www.thyca.org/gail_gundlings_remarks.htm . My

> life has been filled with wonderful experiences and joys the most

> important of which are now the five grandchildren I am blessed with.

> The role cancer played in my life is the perspective it gave me on

> life and how to live it.

>

> My journey has been a wonderful one.

>

> Best Wishes to you all for a Happy, Healthy New Year!

>

> Gail

> dx: 1968, TT, pap. & foll. well differentiated

> w/hurthle cell, RAI, rad.neck dissection,lung surgery,

> hashimoto, tg antibody 575, iodine resistant,existing

> thyca nodules in lungs. Last surgery 1972

>

>

>

>

>

> > I'd like to hear some positive outcomes and stories from survivors,

> rather than all the negatives. The negatives are obvious. I need some

> inspiration and encouragement, as I think we all do.

> >

> > Thanks and Happy New Year to all of you,

> >

>

>

>

> For more information regarding thyroid cancer visit www.thyca.org. If you

do not wish to belong to this group, you may UNSUBSCRIBE by sending a blank

email to thyca-unsubscribe

>

>

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THANK YOU!

Gail:

I read your speach; your words are wonderful. As a long time thyca survivor (39

years!), I can relate to your experience.

Best wishes to us all for the coming new year. God bless each and everyone of

us.

Fred

Orange County, California

1st thyca operation at 20 years old, second operation at 21, third one at 57.

And it looks like another one coming up real soon :(.

If you would like to

know more read the speech I gave at the first thyca conference on the

thyca website http://www.thyca.org/gail_gundlings_remarks.htm .

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I admire your attitude! I was diagnosed 5 days ago with pap. thyca, and am

scheduled for my TT next week. I am terrified. I know a positive outlook is

essential, but I can't seem to muster it yet. My endo wants to do my RAI 4

weeks post op, so I guess that means I'll be hypo for all that time. I

thought it was only 2 weeks usually. I'm a mother of 3, and will be 39 in 2

months. I'm also an ER RN, so the risks of surgery really scare me. It is

all very overwhelming, and what a way to start the new year. I really

appreciate this support network and all the invaluable info I have gotten,

just in the past few days. Thank you for everyone who takes the time to

read, and respond. How long does it take just to get over the sheer grief of

the diagnosis? I do recognize the fact that this is supposed to be one of

the better CAs, but it still really sucks!

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> I admire your attitude! I was diagnosed 5 days ago with pap. thyca,

> and am scheduled for my TT next week. I am terrified. I know a

> positive outlook is essential, but I can't seem to muster it yet.

Give yourself a bit of a break here :-). This is all pretty new for

you. This IS scary, and having a postive outlook doesn't mean

ignoring reality and blindly smiling through it all. You WILL get

through this difficult time, and the group will be here to help you

> My endo wants to do my RAI 4 weeks post op, so I guess that means

> I'll be hypo for all that time. I thought it was only 2 weeks

> usually.

Actually, it's usually about 6 weeks - the first 4 using Cytomel, the

last 2 completely off meds and following the LID (low iodine diet).

Some docs don't give any Cytomel, and some plan the RAI for less than

6 weeks. You want your TSH to rise to at least 30 (some docs want it

higher).

> I'm also an ER RN, so the risks of surgery really scare me.

There are certainly the normal risks of surgery, but as surgeries go,

this is a pretty easy one for most of us.

> It is all very overwhelming, and what a way to start the new year.

That's for sure - hang in there, though - you'll get through it. Step

by step. Getting involved in this group at pre-op stage is a great

first step!! Start off right by getting copies of all of your records

as you go - reports, blood work, etc.

> How long does it take just to get over the sheer grief of

> the diagnosis?

Boy, that's a hard one. We all go through grief in our own time. It

often takes awhile to really sink in.

> I do recognize the fact that this is supposed to be one of

> the better CAs, but it still really sucks!

But..but..but..it's the GOOD cancer :-). Give yourself a month, and

you'll be ready to smack the next person (usually well meaning doctors

who mean " treatable " ) who tells you how " lucky " you are to have this,

cause it's " the cancer to get, if you're going to get cancer " . ( I

actually comforted family and friends with this line just after my dx.

- can't believe I did that!)

It sucks. It stinks. It's not fair, and it's not fun, and it's

scary, and any way you slice it, it's CANCER!! Ok, I feel better now

:-).

Yes, it's important to realize that thyca is usually very treatable,

and most of us will live long lives and die from something unrelated.

Faced early last year with the possibility of having both ovarian

cancer and thyroid cancer, I can tell you I would take the thyroid

cancer any day. But frankly, I'd prefer not having either.

Get through the surgery, let yourself grieve and be angry or scared or

whatever else you are feeling. Keep reading, keep asking questions.

Hang in there!

Cheers,

Alisa

Currently - 140mcg Levoxyl

2/15/2002: Nodule found 2/27/2002: FNA

3/4/2002: Hysterectomy/oopherectomy-possible ovarian cancer - BENIGN!!

4/9/2002: TT - Stage 2 pap 2.5 x 2 x 1.6 cm nodule, dx Hashimotos

5/28/2002: WBS (2 mCi) and 100 mCi RAI --- 6/6/2002: WBS - No mets

12/16/02: WBS (5 mCi): clean scan - no thyroid tissue in body!!!

Age: 49 -- Location: near Seattle WA --- Check out my posts:

Radioactive Girl - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/19472

My LID - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/15872

My RAI - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/15873

LID thoughts, tips, ideas -

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/25430

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> I admire your attitude! I was diagnosed 5 days ago with pap. thyca,

> and am scheduled for my TT next week. I am terrified. I know a

> positive outlook is essential, but I can't seem to muster it yet.

Give yourself a bit of a break here :-). This is all pretty new for

you. This IS scary, and having a postive outlook doesn't mean

ignoring reality and blindly smiling through it all. You WILL get

through this difficult time, and the group will be here to help you

> My endo wants to do my RAI 4 weeks post op, so I guess that means

> I'll be hypo for all that time. I thought it was only 2 weeks

> usually.

Actually, it's usually about 6 weeks - the first 4 using Cytomel, the

last 2 completely off meds and following the LID (low iodine diet).

Some docs don't give any Cytomel, and some plan the RAI for less than

6 weeks. You want your TSH to rise to at least 30 (some docs want it

higher).

> I'm also an ER RN, so the risks of surgery really scare me.

There are certainly the normal risks of surgery, but as surgeries go,

this is a pretty easy one for most of us.

> It is all very overwhelming, and what a way to start the new year.

That's for sure - hang in there, though - you'll get through it. Step

by step. Getting involved in this group at pre-op stage is a great

first step!! Start off right by getting copies of all of your records

as you go - reports, blood work, etc.

> How long does it take just to get over the sheer grief of

> the diagnosis?

Boy, that's a hard one. We all go through grief in our own time. It

often takes awhile to really sink in.

> I do recognize the fact that this is supposed to be one of

> the better CAs, but it still really sucks!

But..but..but..it's the GOOD cancer :-). Give yourself a month, and

you'll be ready to smack the next person (usually well meaning doctors

who mean " treatable " ) who tells you how " lucky " you are to have this,

cause it's " the cancer to get, if you're going to get cancer " . ( I

actually comforted family and friends with this line just after my dx.

- can't believe I did that!)

It sucks. It stinks. It's not fair, and it's not fun, and it's

scary, and any way you slice it, it's CANCER!! Ok, I feel better now

:-).

Yes, it's important to realize that thyca is usually very treatable,

and most of us will live long lives and die from something unrelated.

Faced early last year with the possibility of having both ovarian

cancer and thyroid cancer, I can tell you I would take the thyroid

cancer any day. But frankly, I'd prefer not having either.

Get through the surgery, let yourself grieve and be angry or scared or

whatever else you are feeling. Keep reading, keep asking questions.

Hang in there!

Cheers,

Alisa

Currently - 140mcg Levoxyl

2/15/2002: Nodule found 2/27/2002: FNA

3/4/2002: Hysterectomy/oopherectomy-possible ovarian cancer - BENIGN!!

4/9/2002: TT - Stage 2 pap 2.5 x 2 x 1.6 cm nodule, dx Hashimotos

5/28/2002: WBS (2 mCi) and 100 mCi RAI --- 6/6/2002: WBS - No mets

12/16/02: WBS (5 mCi): clean scan - no thyroid tissue in body!!!

Age: 49 -- Location: near Seattle WA --- Check out my posts:

Radioactive Girl - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/19472

My LID - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/15872

My RAI - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/15873

LID thoughts, tips, ideas -

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/25430

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> I admire your attitude! I was diagnosed 5 days ago with pap. thyca,

> and am scheduled for my TT next week. I am terrified. I know a

> positive outlook is essential, but I can't seem to muster it yet.

Give yourself a bit of a break here :-). This is all pretty new for

you. This IS scary, and having a postive outlook doesn't mean

ignoring reality and blindly smiling through it all. You WILL get

through this difficult time, and the group will be here to help you

> My endo wants to do my RAI 4 weeks post op, so I guess that means

> I'll be hypo for all that time. I thought it was only 2 weeks

> usually.

Actually, it's usually about 6 weeks - the first 4 using Cytomel, the

last 2 completely off meds and following the LID (low iodine diet).

Some docs don't give any Cytomel, and some plan the RAI for less than

6 weeks. You want your TSH to rise to at least 30 (some docs want it

higher).

> I'm also an ER RN, so the risks of surgery really scare me.

There are certainly the normal risks of surgery, but as surgeries go,

this is a pretty easy one for most of us.

> It is all very overwhelming, and what a way to start the new year.

That's for sure - hang in there, though - you'll get through it. Step

by step. Getting involved in this group at pre-op stage is a great

first step!! Start off right by getting copies of all of your records

as you go - reports, blood work, etc.

> How long does it take just to get over the sheer grief of

> the diagnosis?

Boy, that's a hard one. We all go through grief in our own time. It

often takes awhile to really sink in.

> I do recognize the fact that this is supposed to be one of

> the better CAs, but it still really sucks!

But..but..but..it's the GOOD cancer :-). Give yourself a month, and

you'll be ready to smack the next person (usually well meaning doctors

who mean " treatable " ) who tells you how " lucky " you are to have this,

cause it's " the cancer to get, if you're going to get cancer " . ( I

actually comforted family and friends with this line just after my dx.

- can't believe I did that!)

It sucks. It stinks. It's not fair, and it's not fun, and it's

scary, and any way you slice it, it's CANCER!! Ok, I feel better now

:-).

Yes, it's important to realize that thyca is usually very treatable,

and most of us will live long lives and die from something unrelated.

Faced early last year with the possibility of having both ovarian

cancer and thyroid cancer, I can tell you I would take the thyroid

cancer any day. But frankly, I'd prefer not having either.

Get through the surgery, let yourself grieve and be angry or scared or

whatever else you are feeling. Keep reading, keep asking questions.

Hang in there!

Cheers,

Alisa

Currently - 140mcg Levoxyl

2/15/2002: Nodule found 2/27/2002: FNA

3/4/2002: Hysterectomy/oopherectomy-possible ovarian cancer - BENIGN!!

4/9/2002: TT - Stage 2 pap 2.5 x 2 x 1.6 cm nodule, dx Hashimotos

5/28/2002: WBS (2 mCi) and 100 mCi RAI --- 6/6/2002: WBS - No mets

12/16/02: WBS (5 mCi): clean scan - no thyroid tissue in body!!!

Age: 49 -- Location: near Seattle WA --- Check out my posts:

Radioactive Girl - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/19472

My LID - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/15872

My RAI - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/15873

LID thoughts, tips, ideas -

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Thyca/message/25430

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In a message dated 1/2/03 1:39:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, rcrb64@...

writes:

<< I was diagnosed 5 days ago with pap. thyca, and am

scheduled for my TT next week. I am terrified. I know a positive outlook

is

essential, but I can't seem to muster it yet. My endo wants to do my RAI 4

weeks post op, so I guess that means I'll be hypo for all that time. I

thought it was only 2 weeks usually. I'm a mother of 3, and will be 39 in 2

months. I'm also an ER RN, so the risks of surgery really scare me. It is

all very overwhelming, and what a way to start the new year. >>

Hang in there. I know how you feel. I am also the 39 year old mother of 3.

I am a physical therapist, so was also well aware of the risks of surgery.

This group is wonderful- full of support and information. Ask anything, or

just vent. You will usually get a response pretty quickly.

~Kim in NJ

pap ca 3.9 cm

TT 1/8/02

RAI 7/2/02

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Hi! Thanks for your response. Surgery is 6 days away now, and I just want

to wake up, extubated, have a voice, and be told that they got it all. I

know that's asking alot, huh? How long after surgery do they know if there

were any mets? The thought of being hypo, LID's, and RAI is a bit more than

I can focus on at this point. I just want to get through surgery without

copmlications! Thanks for listening!

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Hi! Thanks for your response. Surgery is 6 days away now, and I just want

to wake up, extubated, have a voice, and be told that they got it all. I

know that's asking alot, huh? How long after surgery do they know if there

were any mets? The thought of being hypo, LID's, and RAI is a bit more than

I can focus on at this point. I just want to get through surgery without

copmlications! Thanks for listening!

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Hi! Thanks for your response. Surgery is 6 days away now, and I just want

to wake up, extubated, have a voice, and be told that they got it all. I

know that's asking alot, huh? How long after surgery do they know if there

were any mets? The thought of being hypo, LID's, and RAI is a bit more than

I can focus on at this point. I just want to get through surgery without

copmlications! Thanks for listening!

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> Hi! Thanks for your response. Surgery is 6 days away now, and I just

> want to wake up, extubated, have a voice, and be told that they got it

> all. I know that's asking alot, huh?

Nope. That's what we all look forward to and what many of us hear. You may

wish to wake up with functioning parathyroids too.

> How long after surgery do they know if there were any mets?

After your RAI treatment when they do your post scan.

> The thought of being hypo, LID's, and

> RAI is a bit more than I can focus on at this point. I just want to

> get through surgery without copmlications! Thanks for listening!

>

>

You will do fine, concentrating on one thing at a time. Keep asking

questions.

in OH

dx 1965

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> Hi! Thanks for your response. Surgery is 6 days away now, and I just

> want to wake up, extubated, have a voice, and be told that they got it

> all. I know that's asking alot, huh?

Nope. That's what we all look forward to and what many of us hear. You may

wish to wake up with functioning parathyroids too.

> How long after surgery do they know if there were any mets?

After your RAI treatment when they do your post scan.

> The thought of being hypo, LID's, and

> RAI is a bit more than I can focus on at this point. I just want to

> get through surgery without copmlications! Thanks for listening!

>

>

You will do fine, concentrating on one thing at a time. Keep asking

questions.

in OH

dx 1965

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