Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 is she referring to a PET scan? I was going to ask about it this morning. I've been working on a deliniation of what we have accomplished so far using " Form follows Function " as the governing principle. HANDLE fits right in as a most valuable tool for creating new neuropaths, and allowing for new skills. Will that interpolate into an ability to think new thoughts? To conceptualize social dynamics? I'd like to find out. I'm trying to get this thesis to project into behaviors, into the emotional self. Does a perfectly formed brain render a perfectly functioning mind? What modalities do we employ to teach appropriate emotional response? Especially when we aren't privy to their private thoughts, opinions, and conclusions? Oh well, Michele, as much as you've been traveling, and doing meetings, I hope you can get to that HANDLE group. My guess is you'll love it. I'd love to go to one. in Ma. Mom to , 20 yrs old (CHARGE), 22 yrs. and partner to Alan (12 years now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 is she referring to a PET scan? I was going to ask about it this morning. I've been working on a deliniation of what we have accomplished so far using " Form follows Function " as the governing principle. HANDLE fits right in as a most valuable tool for creating new neuropaths, and allowing for new skills. Will that interpolate into an ability to think new thoughts? To conceptualize social dynamics? I'd like to find out. I'm trying to get this thesis to project into behaviors, into the emotional self. Does a perfectly formed brain render a perfectly functioning mind? What modalities do we employ to teach appropriate emotional response? Especially when we aren't privy to their private thoughts, opinions, and conclusions? Oh well, Michele, as much as you've been traveling, and doing meetings, I hope you can get to that HANDLE group. My guess is you'll love it. I'd love to go to one. in Ma. Mom to , 20 yrs old (CHARGE), 22 yrs. and partner to Alan (12 years now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 >If I consider my experience with yoga and nutrition, just making those simple changes can enhance my neuro functioning and improve my thinking, my emotions, my whole state of being. Nothing in my structure or form changed. It was simply a change in the efficiency and effectiveness of my function.< I realize that I am coming at your on-going conversations from a different direction, maybe from the opposite direction. But I absolutely believe there have been significant changes in your structure and form. I can say that from personal experience, and that of others, and not just theory. It has to be so, as all systems are open-ended, inter-connected and inter-dependent. I saw the rest of your message as saying exactly that. And it is because of that, as U say, that we can have so much hope for the fruits of our endeavors. We're on the same page, really. I have, however, been periodically introducing another avenue of approach that hasn't received much attention yet. One of the core precepts of this holistic approach is that " if the tree is sick, one would not heal it by attending to the leaves, you would heal it at the root. " By nurturing the root. the fact that it is " whole-istic " doesn't mean its not practical. It's scientific basis is quantum physics, and a grasp of that takes time. I have much more free time than U do, and I'm still very far behind in my studies. But when I mention it, it is for the same purpose as every other discussion, for the continued well-being of our children. I get really excited about it, because I see each of us working towards the same goals from our individual strengths, and then coming together and sharing, and pushing and encouraging each other to greater knowledge. I love it! Peace, in Ma. Mom to , 20 yrs old (CHARGE), 22 yrs. and partner to Alan (12 years now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 >If I consider my experience with yoga and nutrition, just making those simple changes can enhance my neuro functioning and improve my thinking, my emotions, my whole state of being. Nothing in my structure or form changed. It was simply a change in the efficiency and effectiveness of my function.< I realize that I am coming at your on-going conversations from a different direction, maybe from the opposite direction. But I absolutely believe there have been significant changes in your structure and form. I can say that from personal experience, and that of others, and not just theory. It has to be so, as all systems are open-ended, inter-connected and inter-dependent. I saw the rest of your message as saying exactly that. And it is because of that, as U say, that we can have so much hope for the fruits of our endeavors. We're on the same page, really. I have, however, been periodically introducing another avenue of approach that hasn't received much attention yet. One of the core precepts of this holistic approach is that " if the tree is sick, one would not heal it by attending to the leaves, you would heal it at the root. " By nurturing the root. the fact that it is " whole-istic " doesn't mean its not practical. It's scientific basis is quantum physics, and a grasp of that takes time. I have much more free time than U do, and I'm still very far behind in my studies. But when I mention it, it is for the same purpose as every other discussion, for the continued well-being of our children. I get really excited about it, because I see each of us working towards the same goals from our individual strengths, and then coming together and sharing, and pushing and encouraging each other to greater knowledge. I love it! Peace, in Ma. Mom to , 20 yrs old (CHARGE), 22 yrs. and partner to Alan (12 years now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 >If I consider my experience with yoga and nutrition, just making those simple changes can enhance my neuro functioning and improve my thinking, my emotions, my whole state of being. Nothing in my structure or form changed. It was simply a change in the efficiency and effectiveness of my function.< I realize that I am coming at your on-going conversations from a different direction, maybe from the opposite direction. But I absolutely believe there have been significant changes in your structure and form. I can say that from personal experience, and that of others, and not just theory. It has to be so, as all systems are open-ended, inter-connected and inter-dependent. I saw the rest of your message as saying exactly that. And it is because of that, as U say, that we can have so much hope for the fruits of our endeavors. We're on the same page, really. I have, however, been periodically introducing another avenue of approach that hasn't received much attention yet. One of the core precepts of this holistic approach is that " if the tree is sick, one would not heal it by attending to the leaves, you would heal it at the root. " By nurturing the root. the fact that it is " whole-istic " doesn't mean its not practical. It's scientific basis is quantum physics, and a grasp of that takes time. I have much more free time than U do, and I'm still very far behind in my studies. But when I mention it, it is for the same purpose as every other discussion, for the continued well-being of our children. I get really excited about it, because I see each of us working towards the same goals from our individual strengths, and then coming together and sharing, and pushing and encouraging each other to greater knowledge. I love it! Peace, in Ma. Mom to , 20 yrs old (CHARGE), 22 yrs. and partner to Alan (12 years now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Colleen- We have seen a neuropsych here in town and she was adamant that we had to continue with neuropsych. If you think about Kim's description of the wiring being the problem, then you realize you need an electrician to work on the wiring. Since Aubrie was tiny and we saw Judith Bluestone briefly at a conference, I have known in my gut that this was the " missing piece " to understanding Aubrie. All of her quirks and stuff that I can't understand come from this. Her gears click, but in a way that I've never seen in other kids. Go to this dr's website: www.childhealthlearn.org. When I read it, I thought it seemed like exactly what we need. We need to understand the way her gears click and the way her wiring works so we can either help to rewire or support her to be successful with the way things work. Our kids' problems can't be helped by traditional approaches to autism, OCD, etc -- in my opinion. Someone needs to look deeper to see the whole picture. At the surface, they may look like something the dr has seen before -- but a deep look will show the subtle nuances that make them different. It may turn out that a traditional approach will help, but it's not a given. Does that make sense? It's hard for me to make sense when I'm just at the tip of understanding myself. Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 OH-- Colleen-- of course you can call me. My home number is . Our cell phone is Cingular so if you are Cingular as well, we could talk for free -- . If you call at a time when I can't give my full attention, I'll let you know and we'll plan to call again. Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Michele, Sounds like you have found a great place. When she refers in the following quote to Systems Theory - that is what I refer to when I talk about wiring - how all the processes come together. Then when she talks about adaptability - that is what I mean when I wrote to about the vagal response and the " organisms " response to stressors. Nice to have the professional wording on it to support the simplistic way I explain it to myself. Oh I would love to go back to school now and not in 3 1/2 more years! http://www.childhealthlearn.org/Pediatric%20Neuro%20Systems.pdf ³The focus of Neuro-Systems Analysis and Neuro-Systems Therapy is a systemic understanding of the brain¹s cerebral organization and psychological structure and dynamics. The brain is not just an assembly of interconnections of genes, proteins, structure, chemicals and electrical activity... Understanding these components and interconnections of the brain system is very important, yet not sufficient enough to understand the complexity of this organ. Systems Theory focuses upon the patterns and relationships among these components and interconnections. It focuses upon how the various brain areas and functional processes interact and how they change throughout development and how changes in one part of the system can affect other parts. This theoretical framework, based upon Systems Biology, highlights the brain as a very dynamic and complex system. Robustness is an essential property of all biological systems. The brain is certainly the most robust of biological systems. The brain is the only organ in the human system that learns. A major property of any robust system is adaptation, the ability to cope with environmental and intra-organism changes. Neuro-Systems Analysis and Neuro-Systems Therapy promote a highly specialized understanding of the working relationship of multiple brain areas and the working relationship of multiple learning functions associated with these areas. This systems approach allows for a heightened understanding of the properties of learning, particularly adaptation, growth and performance. The better we understand the brain, at a biological systems level, the better we understand how to improve brain performance. For analogy purposes, we can ask ourselves, how can one improve the performance of any function without understanding the dynamic systems process of the function. It would be like tasting a gourmet meal, knowing what the individual component ingredients are, but yet not knowing the process and interaction among the ingredients resulting in the meal that tantalizes the palate. To replicate or improve the gourmet dish, we must understand the process involved.² Reading back over this it also helps explain why traditional approaches are not always enough  look at the line I went back and put in italics  most disciplines focus on one piece of all of this. Medically we look to see if each of these has apparent abnormalities, does the MRI show changes in brain structure, does the EEG show changes in electrical activities and so on, does this medication that adjusts this chemical lead to the change we want  if the diagnostics show that everything is ³fine² or they are given the ³right² medication, then we presume that function should be fine. But simply observing our children, we can see the quirks in the system that get in the way of the learning and know it is not fine  we see our kids struggle as a result. I am looking forward to hearing more about what this doctor helps you understand about Aubrie. Kim > Colleen- > We have seen a neuropsych here in town and she was adamant that we had to > continue with neuropsych. If you think about Kim's description of the > wiring being the problem, then you realize you need an electrician to work > on the wiring. Since Aubrie was tiny and we saw Judith Bluestone briefly at > a conference, I have known in my gut that this was the " missing piece " to > understanding Aubrie. All of her quirks and stuff that I can't understand > come from this. Her gears click, but in a way that I've never seen in other > kids. Go to this dr's website: www.childhealthlearn.org. When I read it, > I thought it seemed like exactly what we need. We need to understand the > way her gears click and the way her wiring works so we can either help to > rewire or support her to be successful with the way things work. Our kids' > problems can't be helped by traditional approaches to autism, OCD, etc -- in > my opinion. Someone needs to look deeper to see the whole picture. At the > surface, they may look like something the dr has seen before -- but a deep > look will show the subtle nuances that make them different. It may turn out > that a traditional approach will help, but it's not a given. Does that make > sense? It's hard for me to make sense when I'm just at the tip of > understanding myself. > > Michele W > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE: > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995 > > Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the > CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada. > For information about the CHARGE Syndrome > Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter), > please contact marion@... or visit > the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org > (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca) > > 8th International > CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at > www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Kim- Your input is so valuable to me. I am very excited to find out what we'll learn. We talked about brain imaging. I've been interested in seeing the new scans of autistic brains compared to scans of CHARGE brains. I'm guessing there would be significant differences. The dr said a scan may be something we'd decide we're interested in after all the evals. But she also said she'd be able to tell us everything that any scan would show -- the scans would just put a visual to it. So I am expecting great things from this woman. I hope I'm not naïve in my expectations! Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Kim- Your input is so valuable to me. I am very excited to find out what we'll learn. We talked about brain imaging. I've been interested in seeing the new scans of autistic brains compared to scans of CHARGE brains. I'm guessing there would be significant differences. The dr said a scan may be something we'd decide we're interested in after all the evals. But she also said she'd be able to tell us everything that any scan would show -- the scans would just put a visual to it. So I am expecting great things from this woman. I hope I'm not naïve in my expectations! Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Kim- Your input is so valuable to me. I am very excited to find out what we'll learn. We talked about brain imaging. I've been interested in seeing the new scans of autistic brains compared to scans of CHARGE brains. I'm guessing there would be significant differences. The dr said a scan may be something we'd decide we're interested in after all the evals. But she also said she'd be able to tell us everything that any scan would show -- the scans would just put a visual to it. So I am expecting great things from this woman. I hope I'm not naïve in my expectations! Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Michele, Naïve is expecting her to make the CHARGE syndrome go away, but expecting to learn more effective ways to help Aubrie learn and function, I think you are right on! I will be curious to see how the program she comes up with compares to what a HANDLE program might be and what the focus of each would be. Kim > Kim- > Your input is so valuable to me. I am very excited to find out what we'll > learn. We talked about brain imaging. I've been interested in seeing the > new scans of autistic brains compared to scans of CHARGE brains. I'm > guessing there would be significant differences. The dr said a scan may be > something we'd decide we're interested in after all the evals. But she also > said she'd be able to tell us everything that any scan would show -- the > scans would just put a visual to it. So I am expecting great things from > this woman. I hope I'm not naïve in my expectations! > > Michele W > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE: > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995 > > Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the > CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada. > For information about the CHARGE Syndrome > Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter), > please contact marion@... or visit > the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org > (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca) > > 8th International > CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at > www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 - Yes, I think it is the Pet or Pec scans that I've heard of. I honestly can't remember the name, but you are surely thinking the same thing. " Does a perfectly formed brain render a perfectly functioning mind? " Wouldn't you think not? There are many people with " normal " brain form who are not functioning well -- whether it be social, emotional, intellectual... It seems to me that there is way more to it than simply form or the physical structures. That's what makes it an exciting area -- we can make real change at any stage in the game because the brain is so complex and so malleable. It seems to me that the more streamlined and efficient the neuropathways, the more " together " a persons behavior and emotions. That's just a laypersons naïve expectation. I've learned along the way that what seems to be common sense to me can be negated by things outside my understanding or perception so I may find a reason that that is not true. If I consider my experience with yoga and nutrition, just making those simple changes can enhance my neuro functioning and improve my thinking, my emotions, my whole state of being. Nothing in my structure or form changed. It was simply a change in the efficiency and effectiveness of my function. Did I tell you guys that the dr also gave me a nutrition contact? She said something to the effect that nutrition wouldn't be a " cure " but that nutrition can effect a person with such a delicate system. We all know that our kids respond to things in an unpredictable and heightened way -- different than the way we and others respond to the same stimuli. Food would be the same. I've always believed that but didn't have a way to figure out what to do to make a difference and to understand how these things affect Aubrie. I have no idea the cost and effort involved in following this path, but I plan to give it a go when I have the energy to move in that direction. Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Re: W-Theraputic Approach is she referring to a PET scan? I was going to ask about it this morning. I've been working on a deliniation of what we have accomplished so far using " Form follows Function " as the governing principle. HANDLE fits right in as a most valuable tool for creating new neuropaths, and allowing for new skills. Will that interpolate into an ability to think new thoughts? To conceptualize social dynamics? I'd like to find out. I'm trying to get this thesis to project into behaviors, into the emotional self. Does a perfectly formed brain render a perfectly functioning mind? What modalities do we employ to teach appropriate emotional response? Especially when we aren't privy to their private thoughts, opinions, and conclusions? Oh well, Michele, as much as you've been traveling, and doing meetings, I hope you can get to that HANDLE group. My guess is you'll love it. I'd love to go to one. in Ma. Mom to , 20 yrs old (CHARGE), 22 yrs. and partner to Alan (12 years now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Okay - this one is deep for even me, and you know I think deep - it gets into the neuroscience part and is what makes me want to stick to neuropsych when I go to school. What I do know from Dylan is that he needs HANDLE, but he also needs his Cranial Sacral Therapy. The CST changes the structure, which enhances his HANDLE work and his function. I will leave you with that to ponder for the day and hope that most of the list has tuned out for this one. Kim > is she referring to a PET scan? I was going to ask about it this morning. > I've been working on a deliniation of what we have accomplished so far using > " Form follows Function " as the governing principle. > HANDLE fits right in as a most valuable tool for creating new neuropaths, > and allowing for new skills. Will that interpolate into an ability to think > new thoughts? To conceptualize social dynamics? I'd like to find out. > I'm trying to get this thesis to project into behaviors, into the emotional > self. > Does a perfectly formed brain render a perfectly functioning mind? > What modalities do we employ to teach appropriate emotional response? > Especially when we aren't privy to their private thoughts, opinions, and > conclusions? > Oh well, Michele, as much as you've been traveling, and doing meetings, I > hope you can get to that HANDLE group. My guess is you'll love it. I'd love > to go to one. > > in Ma. > Mom to , 20 yrs old (CHARGE), 22 yrs. and partner to Alan (12 > years now) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Okay - this one is deep for even me, and you know I think deep - it gets into the neuroscience part and is what makes me want to stick to neuropsych when I go to school. What I do know from Dylan is that he needs HANDLE, but he also needs his Cranial Sacral Therapy. The CST changes the structure, which enhances his HANDLE work and his function. I will leave you with that to ponder for the day and hope that most of the list has tuned out for this one. Kim > is she referring to a PET scan? I was going to ask about it this morning. > I've been working on a deliniation of what we have accomplished so far using > " Form follows Function " as the governing principle. > HANDLE fits right in as a most valuable tool for creating new neuropaths, > and allowing for new skills. Will that interpolate into an ability to think > new thoughts? To conceptualize social dynamics? I'd like to find out. > I'm trying to get this thesis to project into behaviors, into the emotional > self. > Does a perfectly formed brain render a perfectly functioning mind? > What modalities do we employ to teach appropriate emotional response? > Especially when we aren't privy to their private thoughts, opinions, and > conclusions? > Oh well, Michele, as much as you've been traveling, and doing meetings, I > hope you can get to that HANDLE group. My guess is you'll love it. I'd love > to go to one. > > in Ma. > Mom to , 20 yrs old (CHARGE), 22 yrs. and partner to Alan (12 > years now) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Michele - This is certainly true with Dylan - as his system became more " organized " with HANDLE his function took off. Then - your example of the group of girls patterning (modeling) the skills happened for Dylan in his classroom - a year after HANDLE, so the improved function was then given a model to follow and he is learning by leaps and bounds this year. Before HANDLE he could have been with the same kids, but didn't have the efficiency in his own body to make use of their patterning - does that make sense/ Kim > It seems to me that the more streamlined and efficient the > neuropathways, the more " together " a persons behavior and emotions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Kim- Makes perfect sense and is a great example. Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Re: W-Theraputic Approach Michele - This is certainly true with Dylan - as his system became more " organized " with HANDLE his function took off. Then - your example of the group of girls patterning (modeling) the skills happened for Dylan in his classroom - a year after HANDLE, so the improved function was then given a model to follow and he is learning by leaps and bounds this year. Before HANDLE he could have been with the same kids, but didn't have the efficiency in his own body to make use of their patterning - does that make sense/ Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Kim- Makes perfect sense and is a great example. Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Re: W-Theraputic Approach Michele - This is certainly true with Dylan - as his system became more " organized " with HANDLE his function took off. Then - your example of the group of girls patterning (modeling) the skills happened for Dylan in his classroom - a year after HANDLE, so the improved function was then given a model to follow and he is learning by leaps and bounds this year. Before HANDLE he could have been with the same kids, but didn't have the efficiency in his own body to make use of their patterning - does that make sense/ Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Kim- Makes perfect sense and is a great example. Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Re: W-Theraputic Approach Michele - This is certainly true with Dylan - as his system became more " organized " with HANDLE his function took off. Then - your example of the group of girls patterning (modeling) the skills happened for Dylan in his classroom - a year after HANDLE, so the improved function was then given a model to follow and he is learning by leaps and bounds this year. Before HANDLE he could have been with the same kids, but didn't have the efficiency in his own body to make use of their patterning - does that make sense/ Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Michele, I, too, loved the > " Does a perfectly formed brain render a perfectly functioning mind? " phrase. > pam Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS Licensed Educational Psychologist Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program 175 North Beacon St. Watertown, MA 02472 > ---------- > From: CHARGE on behalf of Michele Westmaas > Reply To: CHARGE > Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 11:01 AM > To: CHARGE > Subject: RE: W-Theraputic Approach > > - > Yes, I think it is the Pet or Pec scans that I've heard of. I honestly > can't remember the name, but you are surely thinking the same thing. Wouldn't you > think not? There are many people with " normal " brain form who are not > functioning well -- whether it be social, emotional, intellectual... It > seems to me that there is way more to it than simply form or the physical > structures. That's what makes it an exciting area -- we can make real > change at any stage in the game because the brain is so complex and so > malleable. It seems to me that the more streamlined and efficient the > neuropathways, the more " together " a persons behavior and emotions. That's > just a laypersons naïve expectation. I've learned along the way that what > seems to be common sense to me can be negated by things outside my > understanding or perception so I may find a reason that that is not true. > > If I consider my experience with yoga and nutrition, just making those > simple changes can enhance my neuro functioning and improve my thinking, my > emotions, my whole state of being. Nothing in my structure or form changed. > It was simply a change in the efficiency and effectiveness of my function. > > Did I tell you guys that the dr also gave me a nutrition contact? She said > something to the effect that nutrition wouldn't be a " cure " but that > nutrition can effect a person with such a delicate system. We all know that > our kids respond to things in an unpredictable and heightened way -- > different than the way we and others respond to the same stimuli. Food > would be the same. I've always believed that but didn't have a way to > figure out what to do to make a difference and to understand how these > things affect Aubrie. I have no idea the cost and effort involved in > following this path, but I plan to give it a go when I have the energy to > move in that direction. > > Michele W > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > Re: W-Theraputic Approach > > is she referring to a PET scan? I was going to ask about it this morning. > I've been working on a deliniation of what we have accomplished so far > using > " Form follows Function " as the governing principle. > HANDLE fits right in as a most valuable tool for creating new neuropaths, > and allowing for new skills. Will that interpolate into an ability to > think > new thoughts? To conceptualize social dynamics? I'd like to find out. > I'm trying to get this thesis to project into behaviors, into the emotional > > self. > Does a perfectly formed brain render a perfectly functioning mind? > What modalities do we employ to teach appropriate emotional response? > Especially when we aren't privy to their private thoughts, opinions, and > conclusions? > Oh well, Michele, as much as you've been traveling, and doing meetings, I > hope you can get to that HANDLE group. My guess is you'll love it. I'd > love > to go to one. > > in Ma. > Mom to , 20 yrs old (CHARGE), 22 yrs. and partner to Alan (12 > years now) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Michele, I, too, loved the > " Does a perfectly formed brain render a perfectly functioning mind? " phrase. > pam Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS Licensed Educational Psychologist Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program 175 North Beacon St. Watertown, MA 02472 > ---------- > From: CHARGE on behalf of Michele Westmaas > Reply To: CHARGE > Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 11:01 AM > To: CHARGE > Subject: RE: W-Theraputic Approach > > - > Yes, I think it is the Pet or Pec scans that I've heard of. I honestly > can't remember the name, but you are surely thinking the same thing. Wouldn't you > think not? There are many people with " normal " brain form who are not > functioning well -- whether it be social, emotional, intellectual... It > seems to me that there is way more to it than simply form or the physical > structures. That's what makes it an exciting area -- we can make real > change at any stage in the game because the brain is so complex and so > malleable. It seems to me that the more streamlined and efficient the > neuropathways, the more " together " a persons behavior and emotions. That's > just a laypersons naïve expectation. I've learned along the way that what > seems to be common sense to me can be negated by things outside my > understanding or perception so I may find a reason that that is not true. > > If I consider my experience with yoga and nutrition, just making those > simple changes can enhance my neuro functioning and improve my thinking, my > emotions, my whole state of being. Nothing in my structure or form changed. > It was simply a change in the efficiency and effectiveness of my function. > > Did I tell you guys that the dr also gave me a nutrition contact? She said > something to the effect that nutrition wouldn't be a " cure " but that > nutrition can effect a person with such a delicate system. We all know that > our kids respond to things in an unpredictable and heightened way -- > different than the way we and others respond to the same stimuli. Food > would be the same. I've always believed that but didn't have a way to > figure out what to do to make a difference and to understand how these > things affect Aubrie. I have no idea the cost and effort involved in > following this path, but I plan to give it a go when I have the energy to > move in that direction. > > Michele W > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > Re: W-Theraputic Approach > > is she referring to a PET scan? I was going to ask about it this morning. > I've been working on a deliniation of what we have accomplished so far > using > " Form follows Function " as the governing principle. > HANDLE fits right in as a most valuable tool for creating new neuropaths, > and allowing for new skills. Will that interpolate into an ability to > think > new thoughts? To conceptualize social dynamics? I'd like to find out. > I'm trying to get this thesis to project into behaviors, into the emotional > > self. > Does a perfectly formed brain render a perfectly functioning mind? > What modalities do we employ to teach appropriate emotional response? > Especially when we aren't privy to their private thoughts, opinions, and > conclusions? > Oh well, Michele, as much as you've been traveling, and doing meetings, I > hope you can get to that HANDLE group. My guess is you'll love it. I'd > love > to go to one. > > in Ma. > Mom to , 20 yrs old (CHARGE), 22 yrs. and partner to Alan (12 > years now) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Michele, I, too, loved the > " Does a perfectly formed brain render a perfectly functioning mind? " phrase. > pam Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS Licensed Educational Psychologist Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program 175 North Beacon St. Watertown, MA 02472 > ---------- > From: CHARGE on behalf of Michele Westmaas > Reply To: CHARGE > Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 11:01 AM > To: CHARGE > Subject: RE: W-Theraputic Approach > > - > Yes, I think it is the Pet or Pec scans that I've heard of. I honestly > can't remember the name, but you are surely thinking the same thing. Wouldn't you > think not? There are many people with " normal " brain form who are not > functioning well -- whether it be social, emotional, intellectual... It > seems to me that there is way more to it than simply form or the physical > structures. That's what makes it an exciting area -- we can make real > change at any stage in the game because the brain is so complex and so > malleable. It seems to me that the more streamlined and efficient the > neuropathways, the more " together " a persons behavior and emotions. That's > just a laypersons naïve expectation. I've learned along the way that what > seems to be common sense to me can be negated by things outside my > understanding or perception so I may find a reason that that is not true. > > If I consider my experience with yoga and nutrition, just making those > simple changes can enhance my neuro functioning and improve my thinking, my > emotions, my whole state of being. Nothing in my structure or form changed. > It was simply a change in the efficiency and effectiveness of my function. > > Did I tell you guys that the dr also gave me a nutrition contact? She said > something to the effect that nutrition wouldn't be a " cure " but that > nutrition can effect a person with such a delicate system. We all know that > our kids respond to things in an unpredictable and heightened way -- > different than the way we and others respond to the same stimuli. Food > would be the same. I've always believed that but didn't have a way to > figure out what to do to make a difference and to understand how these > things affect Aubrie. I have no idea the cost and effort involved in > following this path, but I plan to give it a go when I have the energy to > move in that direction. > > Michele W > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > Re: W-Theraputic Approach > > is she referring to a PET scan? I was going to ask about it this morning. > I've been working on a deliniation of what we have accomplished so far > using > " Form follows Function " as the governing principle. > HANDLE fits right in as a most valuable tool for creating new neuropaths, > and allowing for new skills. Will that interpolate into an ability to > think > new thoughts? To conceptualize social dynamics? I'd like to find out. > I'm trying to get this thesis to project into behaviors, into the emotional > > self. > Does a perfectly formed brain render a perfectly functioning mind? > What modalities do we employ to teach appropriate emotional response? > Especially when we aren't privy to their private thoughts, opinions, and > conclusions? > Oh well, Michele, as much as you've been traveling, and doing meetings, I > hope you can get to that HANDLE group. My guess is you'll love it. I'd > love > to go to one. > > in Ma. > Mom to , 20 yrs old (CHARGE), 22 yrs. and partner to Alan (12 > years now) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 - Yes, I see what you're saying. I, too, believe in holistic approaches and many alternative approaches are very exciting and promising. I wish there was more info that that these things were more readily available. Just look at the HANDLE, feldenkrais, etc-- if it's true that those types of approaches are key to unlocking our children's true potential, then isn't it a shame that most of us aren't able to access that? Understanding what's out there and how it can help is critical to me in then trying to figure out what can realistically fit into my life. Keep the conversations coming! Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 - Yes, I see what you're saying. I, too, believe in holistic approaches and many alternative approaches are very exciting and promising. I wish there was more info that that these things were more readily available. Just look at the HANDLE, feldenkrais, etc-- if it's true that those types of approaches are key to unlocking our children's true potential, then isn't it a shame that most of us aren't able to access that? Understanding what's out there and how it can help is critical to me in then trying to figure out what can realistically fit into my life. Keep the conversations coming! Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 - Yes, I see what you're saying. I, too, believe in holistic approaches and many alternative approaches are very exciting and promising. I wish there was more info that that these things were more readily available. Just look at the HANDLE, feldenkrais, etc-- if it's true that those types of approaches are key to unlocking our children's true potential, then isn't it a shame that most of us aren't able to access that? Understanding what's out there and how it can help is critical to me in then trying to figure out what can realistically fit into my life. Keep the conversations coming! Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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