Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 > Thor: Hi, this is Trevor from Houston. I had a PVA > three weeks ago at the CC with Dr. Natale. Trevor, I would try talking to your local cardiologist and perhaps he or she can get thru to Dr. Natale. It is not unusual for a second ablation to have to be done, and I am wondering if that is what is the case here or if it is just the normal calming down period. I don't know what the guidelines are for telling the difference. Did they say anything concrete to you at the time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 Hi Trevor: Yes, I have been NSR since the PVA with the exception of the PVA's for 30 minutes or so last week. I was reminded by , who is having a PVA Friday (Dr. Natale) that the CC advises that bouts of AF or what I had is not at all an unusual event, even several weeks after the procedure. (Heart " Irritability " from the PVA & the healing process, which you noted can take up to 3 months) Conversely, as I recall, Lew posted a couple of weeks ago that he was essentially NSR for 8 weeks post PVA & THEN went into AF, which resulted in a touchup being required. Dr. Natale told me that if I was AF free after 8 weeks, he would consider the procedure a success. Conversely, if I was experiencing AF @ 8 weeks it would be considered a failure & a touchup would be required. Remember, if you do need a touchup ( & it's to early to tell now), the chances of a good outcome GO UP TO 95%. I spoke to @ the CC last week & she indicated those patients with otherwise healthy hearts do even better than 95%, so take heart ! (pardon the pun) As for CC & phone calls, I leave a message, but if I haven't heard back from them in an hour or so I call again & keep calling till I get a real human being. Once you get to talk to someone, all of Dr. Natale's nurses I have spoken to have been super & know their stuff. You need to keep them informed, especially if the AF is getting worse or more intense, IMHO. You aren't " bugging them " by calling - Be persistent ! Thor 3 week post PVA Thor: Hi, this is Trevor from Houston. I had a PVA three weeks ago at the CC with Dr. Natale. Were you totally NSR after the procedure up until your golf game episode? I have been in afib every day since the procedure, and it is worse than before--stronger erratic beats, more exhausting, although it doesn't last long all the time (1 to 2 hours, although one episode last week lasted almost all day). I called in to the CC and used the phone transmittal of the EKG, and they confirm I am in afib, but the CC center for atrial fibrillation never calls me back. I am on Betapace and Coumadin. I know I am supposed to give this recovery period three months, but so far it has not been good. I guess I don't have anything more to say, but just wanted to vent. Glad to hear you are doing well. Trevor in AF Houston, Texas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 Hi Trevor: Yes, I have been NSR since the PVA with the exception of the PVA's for 30 minutes or so last week. I was reminded by , who is having a PVA Friday (Dr. Natale) that the CC advises that bouts of AF or what I had is not at all an unusual event, even several weeks after the procedure. (Heart " Irritability " from the PVA & the healing process, which you noted can take up to 3 months) Conversely, as I recall, Lew posted a couple of weeks ago that he was essentially NSR for 8 weeks post PVA & THEN went into AF, which resulted in a touchup being required. Dr. Natale told me that if I was AF free after 8 weeks, he would consider the procedure a success. Conversely, if I was experiencing AF @ 8 weeks it would be considered a failure & a touchup would be required. Remember, if you do need a touchup ( & it's to early to tell now), the chances of a good outcome GO UP TO 95%. I spoke to @ the CC last week & she indicated those patients with otherwise healthy hearts do even better than 95%, so take heart ! (pardon the pun) As for CC & phone calls, I leave a message, but if I haven't heard back from them in an hour or so I call again & keep calling till I get a real human being. Once you get to talk to someone, all of Dr. Natale's nurses I have spoken to have been super & know their stuff. You need to keep them informed, especially if the AF is getting worse or more intense, IMHO. You aren't " bugging them " by calling - Be persistent ! Thor 3 week post PVA Thor: Hi, this is Trevor from Houston. I had a PVA three weeks ago at the CC with Dr. Natale. Were you totally NSR after the procedure up until your golf game episode? I have been in afib every day since the procedure, and it is worse than before--stronger erratic beats, more exhausting, although it doesn't last long all the time (1 to 2 hours, although one episode last week lasted almost all day). I called in to the CC and used the phone transmittal of the EKG, and they confirm I am in afib, but the CC center for atrial fibrillation never calls me back. I am on Betapace and Coumadin. I know I am supposed to give this recovery period three months, but so far it has not been good. I guess I don't have anything more to say, but just wanted to vent. Glad to hear you are doing well. Trevor in AF Houston, Texas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2004 Report Share Posted April 6, 2004 Trevor, Sounds pretty much like my first ablation attempt. Hang in there, in company with most patients I needed a second procedure. Five months after that I remain in NSR with some ectopics. But no AF! Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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