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Lesley, I am so proud of you - I know how hard it is to try an juggle

school, family, etc...

>

> Hi all

>

> Wanted to share some wonderful news with you all.

>

> I have been offered a place at MANCHESTER UNIVERSITY, to be a midwife.

> Also my tutors at college have nominated me for Student of the Year!!

>

> Its been the worst year of my life, and this is some nice stuff for a

> change. I have a smile from ear to ear!!

>

> bye

> Student Midwife Chan xxxx

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Thanks ,

You inspired me a lot, all the hard work you have done at Uni and

Kennedy and charge land, early on when I was not on the listserv,

and I was asking loads of questions i said 'i dont want to overload

you' your reply was 'impossible'

So maybe i got the learning bug from you!!

WELL THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR THE LOVELY COMMENTS....ONLY ONE PROBLEM

NOW YOUR GOING TO HAVE TO PUT UP WITH THREE YEARS OF GIVING BIRTH

AND ALL MY WOMEN PROBLEMS, NOT JUST CHARGE......CAN YOU IMAGINE THE

LISTSERV.....DONT WORRY GUYS I'LL PUT IN THE HEADER ''MIDWIFERY

QUESTION'' SO I DONT BUG EVERYONE.

CHEERS LES

> >

> > Hi all

> >

> > Wanted to share some wonderful news with you all.

> >

> > I have been offered a place at MANCHESTER UNIVERSITY, to be a

midwife.

> > Also my tutors at college have nominated me for Student of the

Year!!

> >

> > Its been the worst year of my life, and this is some nice stuff

for a

> > change. I have a smile from ear to ear!!

> >

> > bye

> > Student Midwife Chan xxxx

>

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Swot of the year, (Lesley)

Soooo proud of you!!!! How do you achieve all that with a full and

overflowing plate?? Congratulations on your studentship and on your place

on the course. If I have to suffer the indignity of childbirth, I am sure I

could not ask for a better midwife, and you are more likely to inject a

sense of reality instead of all that it will all be plain sailing rubbish.

By the way, you are such an inspiration to me. I have been thinking that

really after 15 years as a social worker it is time I did my practice

teaching training but putting it off as I thought I would be taking on too

much what with all that is , Elly starting school, cochlear implants,

sign classes etc etc, but now? Roll on September. The Unis are desperate

for student placements and I think I could maybe be an OK placement for some

poor unsuspecting student. BRING IT ON! I have spoken to our training

bunch already. Thank you student midwife/ superstudent Chan.

Raising a glass of white to you......

Flo

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RAISING A GLASS OF RED BACK, CHEERS fLO, AND YES GO FOR IT, WE ARE

ALL PUSHED TO THE LIMITS ON MANY A DAY IN CHARGE LAND, YOU KNOW WHAT

FLO I THINK IT ACTUALLY MAKES US SO MUCH STRONGER THAN NORM PARENTS!!

ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IN MY INTERVIEW WAS HOW WOULD I COPE WITH A

STILLBIRTH OR MATERNAL DEATH....VERY SAD, I ANSWERED IT FROM THE

HEART, I SAID I WOULD BE STRONG FOR THE PARENTS TO THE BEST OF MY

TRAINING ABILITIES, BUT AFTERWARDS ON REFLECTION WITH WORK MATES I

WOULD NEED TO CRY AND LET IT ALL OUT BEFORE I COULD MOVE ONTO THE

NEXT SHIFT.....SHE SAID ABSOLUTELY WE ARE AFTER ALL ONLY HUMAN.

I AM SO EXCITED FOR SEPTEMBER, BUT I NEED AMELIE TO GET WELL IN

ORDER TO GIVE IT 100% I HOPE THE COMING MONTHS ARE KIND TO HER AND

ME!!

LOL LES XX

>

> Swot of the year, (Lesley)

> Soooo proud of you!!!! How do you achieve all that with a full and

> overflowing plate?? Congratulations on your studentship and on

your place

> on the course. If I have to suffer the indignity of childbirth, I

am sure I

> could not ask for a better midwife, and you are more likely to

inject a

> sense of reality instead of all that it will all be plain sailing

rubbish.

>

> By the way, you are such an inspiration to me. I have been

thinking that

> really after 15 years as a social worker it is time I did my

practice

> teaching training but putting it off as I thought I would be

taking on too

> much what with all that is , Elly starting school, cochlear

implants,

> sign classes etc etc, but now? Roll on September. The Unis are

desperate

> for student placements and I think I could maybe be an OK

placement for some

> poor unsuspecting student. BRING IT ON! I have spoken to our

training

> bunch already. Thank you student midwife/ superstudent Chan.

>

> Raising a glass of white to you......

> Flo

>

>

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Oh Lesley,

that is the most fabulous news! and how you pulled it off with Amelie

so sick is beyond any of us - perhaps it is what has kept you

sane!!!!!!!!

I am so proud of you.

And on the how to handle a Stillborn - I recall when my first baby was

stillborn when my OB came in to see me afterwards, I could tell by his

manor that he grieved too. then a friend came in to see me after he

had been in and told me she had seen him standing in the hall leaning

up against the wall getting himself together to come into see me. I

cannot tell you how much this meant to me - It has been 19 1/2 years

and I can still remember it as if it were yesterday at moments like

this. Just writing this the tears have come back - not of my pain,

but of my appreciation - just the fact that he allowed himself to show

that he cared! he certainly wasn't a basket case expecting me to

comfort him, but he was not a cold heartless robot either.

Kim

> Hi all

>

> Wanted to share some wonderful news with you all.

>

> I have been offered a place at MANCHESTER UNIVERSITY, to be a midwife.

> Also my tutors at college have nominated me for Student of the Year!!

>

> Its been the worst year of my life, and this is some nice stuff for a

> change. I have a smile from ear to ear!!

>

> bye

> Student Midwife Chan xxxx

>

>

>

>

>

> CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE:

> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995

>

> Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the

CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada.

> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

> (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca)

>

> 8th International

> CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at

www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

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Oh Lesley,

that is the most fabulous news! and how you pulled it off with Amelie

so sick is beyond any of us - perhaps it is what has kept you

sane!!!!!!!!

I am so proud of you.

And on the how to handle a Stillborn - I recall when my first baby was

stillborn when my OB came in to see me afterwards, I could tell by his

manor that he grieved too. then a friend came in to see me after he

had been in and told me she had seen him standing in the hall leaning

up against the wall getting himself together to come into see me. I

cannot tell you how much this meant to me - It has been 19 1/2 years

and I can still remember it as if it were yesterday at moments like

this. Just writing this the tears have come back - not of my pain,

but of my appreciation - just the fact that he allowed himself to show

that he cared! he certainly wasn't a basket case expecting me to

comfort him, but he was not a cold heartless robot either.

Kim

> Hi all

>

> Wanted to share some wonderful news with you all.

>

> I have been offered a place at MANCHESTER UNIVERSITY, to be a midwife.

> Also my tutors at college have nominated me for Student of the Year!!

>

> Its been the worst year of my life, and this is some nice stuff for a

> change. I have a smile from ear to ear!!

>

> bye

> Student Midwife Chan xxxx

>

>

>

>

>

> CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE:

> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995

>

> Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the

CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada.

> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

> (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca)

>

> 8th International

> CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at

www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

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Oh Lesley,

that is the most fabulous news! and how you pulled it off with Amelie

so sick is beyond any of us - perhaps it is what has kept you

sane!!!!!!!!

I am so proud of you.

And on the how to handle a Stillborn - I recall when my first baby was

stillborn when my OB came in to see me afterwards, I could tell by his

manor that he grieved too. then a friend came in to see me after he

had been in and told me she had seen him standing in the hall leaning

up against the wall getting himself together to come into see me. I

cannot tell you how much this meant to me - It has been 19 1/2 years

and I can still remember it as if it were yesterday at moments like

this. Just writing this the tears have come back - not of my pain,

but of my appreciation - just the fact that he allowed himself to show

that he cared! he certainly wasn't a basket case expecting me to

comfort him, but he was not a cold heartless robot either.

Kim

> Hi all

>

> Wanted to share some wonderful news with you all.

>

> I have been offered a place at MANCHESTER UNIVERSITY, to be a midwife.

> Also my tutors at college have nominated me for Student of the Year!!

>

> Its been the worst year of my life, and this is some nice stuff for a

> change. I have a smile from ear to ear!!

>

> bye

> Student Midwife Chan xxxx

>

>

>

>

>

> CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE:

> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995

>

> Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the

CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada.

> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

> (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca)

>

> 8th International

> CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at

www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

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Kim

This must have been hard for you to share, I too am crying, I hope I

can be this supportive to 'parents to be', it costs nothing to

empathise and the importance of being there for people, a little

like this listserv and all my new friends, the support is fab,

I am happy your stillbirth holds good memories of a very sad

situation rather than bad ones, hope this has come out right and not

upset you, do you get what I am saying?

thanks Lesley x

> > Hi all

> >

> > Wanted to share some wonderful news with you all.

> >

> > I have been offered a place at MANCHESTER UNIVERSITY, to be a

midwife.

> > Also my tutors at college have nominated me for Student of the

Year!!

> >

> > Its been the worst year of my life, and this is some nice stuff

for a

> > change. I have a smile from ear to ear!!

> >

> > bye

> > Student Midwife Chan xxxx

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE:

> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995

> >

> > Membership of this email support groups does not constitute

membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome

Canada.

> > For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> > Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

> > please contact marion@... or visit

> > the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

> > (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca)

> >

> > 8th International

> > CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be

available at www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

> >

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Kim

This must have been hard for you to share, I too am crying, I hope I

can be this supportive to 'parents to be', it costs nothing to

empathise and the importance of being there for people, a little

like this listserv and all my new friends, the support is fab,

I am happy your stillbirth holds good memories of a very sad

situation rather than bad ones, hope this has come out right and not

upset you, do you get what I am saying?

thanks Lesley x

> > Hi all

> >

> > Wanted to share some wonderful news with you all.

> >

> > I have been offered a place at MANCHESTER UNIVERSITY, to be a

midwife.

> > Also my tutors at college have nominated me for Student of the

Year!!

> >

> > Its been the worst year of my life, and this is some nice stuff

for a

> > change. I have a smile from ear to ear!!

> >

> > bye

> > Student Midwife Chan xxxx

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE:

> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995

> >

> > Membership of this email support groups does not constitute

membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome

Canada.

> > For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> > Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

> > please contact marion@... or visit

> > the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

> > (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca)

> >

> > 8th International

> > CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be

available at www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

> >

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Hi Yuka

You say the most tearful things in the nicest way, thank you so

much, I just hope I can separate my experience and emotions of

childbirth when Amelie was born so that it does not get in the way,

but at least when it does happen to someone else I will know exactly

what they are going through!

love

Lesley x

>

> Congratulations!!!!

>

> You have been so humour filled, charming, fully resonant and

vulnerable - I

> could not think of anyone I would more like to have help deliver a

baby and

> a mother into this world.

>

> Yay!

>

> Yuka

>

> NOT charge related

>

>

> > Hi all

> >

> > Wanted to share some wonderful news with you all.

> >

> > I have been offered a place at MANCHESTER UNIVERSITY, to be a

midwife.

> > Also my tutors at college have nominated me for Student of the

Year!!

> >

> > Its been the worst year of my life, and this is some nice stuff

for a

> > change. I have a smile from ear to ear!!

> >

> > bye

> > Student Midwife Chan xxxx

>

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The adaptation went well, i think, they said the loft conversion is

a good idea, and know a lift shaft engineer is on his way out to

confirm at a later date if required there is room for one on the

exterior of the gable end, in the meantime they are waiting for the

letters from Amelies doctors about her future prognosis, i think

because of christmas!!. my appeal is going before the panel this

month and my social worker is coming here next friday no doubt with

update.

good luck with your adaptation, at least you know your stuff ie the

rules!!

lol Les

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> > fAB fLO

> >

> > I just love your posts, i live them like i am in the same room as

> > you, putting the world to rights...good girl, heres to students

but

> > as for all that running are you having a laugh, i can just about

> > make it to the car...but feel free to send me a sponser sheet!

> >

> > lol les

> >

> >

> >

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Lesley that is fantastic news congratulations. If anyone deserves it, you

certainly do...

love

mum to Hayley(who is still sick as well :-(

Australia

Hi all

>

> Wanted to share some wonderful news with you all.

>

> I have been offered a place at MANCHESTER UNIVERSITY, to be a midwife.

> Also my tutors at college have nominated me for Student of the Year!!

>

> Its been the worst year of my life, and this is some nice stuff for a

> change. I have a smile from ear to ear!!

>

> bye

> Student Midwife Chan xxxx

>

>

>

>

>

> CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE:

> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995

>

> Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada.

> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

> (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca)

>

> 8th International

> CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at

> www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

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Lesley that is fantastic news congratulations. If anyone deserves it, you

certainly do...

love

mum to Hayley(who is still sick as well :-(

Australia

Hi all

>

> Wanted to share some wonderful news with you all.

>

> I have been offered a place at MANCHESTER UNIVERSITY, to be a midwife.

> Also my tutors at college have nominated me for Student of the Year!!

>

> Its been the worst year of my life, and this is some nice stuff for a

> change. I have a smile from ear to ear!!

>

> bye

> Student Midwife Chan xxxx

>

>

>

>

>

> CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE:

> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995

>

> Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in

> the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada.

> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

> (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca)

>

> 8th International

> CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at

> www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

>

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Lesley-

I could just cry for you!! How on earth could you excel at school in the

midst of all the stress in your life??? I think Crystal needs to share her

status as " supermama " with you!

Michele W

mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

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Flo-

Any student placed with you will soon realize the luck they've fallen into!

Just your voice is fun enough to make me want to spend time -- let alone all

the knowledge and experience you have to share!

Michele W

mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

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Lesley,

It is wonderful how the human spirit does not stay in that space of

absolute raw, and horrific grief. It doesn't help to tell a grieving

person that, because it discounts what they are feeling right them.

is part of my life and always will be. His death is a large part

of who I am today! At this point, I treasure the 9 months of a

healthy, happy, beautiful, perfect pregnancy - the only time I was

allowed to have with him and I am thankful for the people who cared

with me. There are still times it hits me hard, but they are short

lived and still nothing like the 9 months after he died.

This second example, also pertains to your role in being a caregiver.

I worked in a children's hospital at the time. I went back to work

after 2 weeks, because I couldn't stand to be at home and do nothing.

Most people acted as if I had never been pregnant.

One Dr. I worked closely with was sitting at the desk when I came in.

His leg was shaking so hard under the table, but then he looked

directly at me, and told me how sorry he was. I still see this man

every now and then, and everytime it moves me to tears that he was

brave enough to face my grief.

On the other hand, there was another doctor I worked closely with - a

doctor mind you - she came in to see me while I was still postpartum.

Her first question was to ask if I was going to sue. I just looked at

her and told her that the doctor had done nothing wrong, that I had

done nothing wrong, it was just how it happened. (vasa previa) It

bothered me that she was so quick to want to attach blame. But now I

can look back and wonder, how when the anger phase hit, if the OB doc

had acted evasive, ignored my emotion, and so on if a person without

the medical background would want to attach blame.

I read recently that most often in a lawsuit is what the person really

wants most is an acknowledgement of the loss and if necessary an

apology, for being less than perfect like all humans are. Hospitals

instruct docs not to apologize, because it implies guilt, but they are

now finding that genuine apologies can often prevent lawsuits. I have

to say it would do much to assuage the anger I still feel towards the

doctors who took care of Tyler after his bike accident last year.

I am so proud of you for all you have done keeping up with your

studies, all your girlies, and Amelie being so sick. All of your

experiences will enhance your ability to be human with your clients,

because you know what it feels like.

Kim

I am happy your stillbirth holds good memories of a very sad

situation rather than bad ones, hope this has come out right and not

upset you, do you get what I am saying?

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Lesley,

It is wonderful how the human spirit does not stay in that space of

absolute raw, and horrific grief. It doesn't help to tell a grieving

person that, because it discounts what they are feeling right them.

is part of my life and always will be. His death is a large part

of who I am today! At this point, I treasure the 9 months of a

healthy, happy, beautiful, perfect pregnancy - the only time I was

allowed to have with him and I am thankful for the people who cared

with me. There are still times it hits me hard, but they are short

lived and still nothing like the 9 months after he died.

This second example, also pertains to your role in being a caregiver.

I worked in a children's hospital at the time. I went back to work

after 2 weeks, because I couldn't stand to be at home and do nothing.

Most people acted as if I had never been pregnant.

One Dr. I worked closely with was sitting at the desk when I came in.

His leg was shaking so hard under the table, but then he looked

directly at me, and told me how sorry he was. I still see this man

every now and then, and everytime it moves me to tears that he was

brave enough to face my grief.

On the other hand, there was another doctor I worked closely with - a

doctor mind you - she came in to see me while I was still postpartum.

Her first question was to ask if I was going to sue. I just looked at

her and told her that the doctor had done nothing wrong, that I had

done nothing wrong, it was just how it happened. (vasa previa) It

bothered me that she was so quick to want to attach blame. But now I

can look back and wonder, how when the anger phase hit, if the OB doc

had acted evasive, ignored my emotion, and so on if a person without

the medical background would want to attach blame.

I read recently that most often in a lawsuit is what the person really

wants most is an acknowledgement of the loss and if necessary an

apology, for being less than perfect like all humans are. Hospitals

instruct docs not to apologize, because it implies guilt, but they are

now finding that genuine apologies can often prevent lawsuits. I have

to say it would do much to assuage the anger I still feel towards the

doctors who took care of Tyler after his bike accident last year.

I am so proud of you for all you have done keeping up with your

studies, all your girlies, and Amelie being so sick. All of your

experiences will enhance your ability to be human with your clients,

because you know what it feels like.

Kim

I am happy your stillbirth holds good memories of a very sad

situation rather than bad ones, hope this has come out right and not

upset you, do you get what I am saying?

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I have a huge amount of trust and respect for my OB. Every time he had to tell

me (or found out as I did, as the result of a consult or test he had to order)

that something was wrong with my pregnancy, he was very compassionate and human.

When I came to see him for my 6 week post-partum check, he took time to look

through Evan's photo album and tell both my husband and I he knew this wasn't

what we expected or would have wanted, but he was very impressed with how we

both handled the unexpected (and he didn't end up delivering Evan--because he

was too early, I had to be transferred to another hospital). Bedside manner

isn't everything--if it came down to a choice, I would rather have an arrogant

jerk save my life vs. a doctor who was nice about letting me die a preventable

death--but isn't it nice when both come in the same package?

(mom to Evan, 8 mos)

Lesley Chan wrote:

Kim

This must have been hard for you to share, I too am crying, I hope I

can be this supportive to 'parents to be', it costs nothing to

empathise and the importance of being there for people, a little

like this listserv and all my new friends, the support is fab,

I am happy your stillbirth holds good memories of a very sad

situation rather than bad ones, hope this has come out right and not

upset you, do you get what I am saying?

thanks Lesley x

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i love doctors like that ive had doctors who the nruses have had to chase

for info theyve had to literaly pin them down for a question but often they

were with other patients and missed this doctor so they ended up goin to

general surgeons who didnt really knwo that particular filed coz id had the

line in my heart oh well i know one thing if you get a baby dilivered like

amielie you will be able to help them to and tell the NOT to go to nhs LOL

love you lesly

>

> I have a huge amount of trust and respect for my OB. Every time he had to

> tell me (or found out as I did, as the result of a consult or test he had to

> order) that something was wrong with my pregnancy, he was very compassionate

> and human. When I came to see him for my 6 week post-partum check, he took

> time to look through Evan's photo album and tell both my husband and I he

> knew this wasn't what we expected or would have wanted, but he was very

> impressed with how we both handled the unexpected (and he didn't end up

> delivering Evan--because he was too early, I had to be transferred to

> another hospital). Bedside manner isn't everything--if it came down to a

> choice, I would rather have an arrogant jerk save my life vs. a doctor who

> was nice about letting me die a preventable death--but isn't it nice when

> both come in the same package?

>

> (mom to Evan, 8 mos)

>

> Lesley Chan wrote:

> Kim

>

> This must have been hard for you to share, I too am crying, I hope I

> can be this supportive to 'parents to be', it costs nothing to

> empathise and the importance of being there for people, a little

> like this listserv and all my new friends, the support is fab,

> I am happy your stillbirth holds good memories of a very sad

> situation rather than bad ones, hope this has come out right and not

> upset you, do you get what I am saying?

>

> thanks Lesley x

>

>

>

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> i love doctors like that ive had doctors who the nruses have had to chase

> for info theyve had to literaly pin them down for a question but often

> they

> were with other patients and missed this doctor so they ended up goin to

> general surgeons who didnt really knwo that particular filed coz id had

> the

> line in my heart oh well i know one thing if you get a baby dilivered like

> amielie you will be able to help them to and tell the NOT to go to nhs LOL

> love you lesly

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> >

> > I have a huge amount of trust and respect for my OB. Every time he had

> to

> > tell me (or found out as I did, as the result of a consult or test he

> had to

> > order) that something was wrong with my pregnancy, he was very

> compassionate

> > and human. When I came to see him for my 6 week post-partum check, he

> took

> > time to look through Evan's photo album and tell both my husband and I

> he

> > knew this wasn't what we expected or would have wanted, but he was very

> > impressed with how we both handled the unexpected (and he didn't end up

> > delivering Evan--because he was too early, I had to be transferred to

> > another hospital). Bedside manner isn't everything--if it came down to

> a

> > choice, I would rather have an arrogant jerk save my life vs. a doctor

> who

> > was nice about letting me die a preventable death--but isn't it nice

> when

> > both come in the same package?

> >

> > (mom to Evan, 8 mos)

> >

> > Lesley Chan wrote:

> > Kim

> >

> > This must have been hard for you to share, I too am crying, I hope I

> > can be this supportive to 'parents to be', it costs nothing to

> > empathise and the importance of being there for people, a little

> > like this listserv and all my new friends, the support is fab,

> > I am happy your stillbirth holds good memories of a very sad

> > situation rather than bad ones, hope this has come out right and not

> > upset you, do you get what I am saying?

> >

> > thanks Lesley x

> >

> >

> >

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