Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 My Sinaya has just turned 4. To my surprise I discovered how much kids are learning in Kindergarten. I am a little worried about your learning pattern. She has always met the milestones yet now it seems she is beginning to have difficulty mastering some of the basic skills such as writing letters and drawing shapes. Although she can recognize them when she see them. Another issue I am having is her behavior toward strangers and change. This is a good thing when we are out in stores but when she is in a her class room she will not interact with the kids nor the teacher. I am afraid this will cause her to be held back. I have gotten her enrolled in an early intervention program yet her screen didn't go well considering Sinaya would not talk/respond. Can anyone please help me help her!! --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Jocelyn, My son did well doing typical things until he was 4, then he began to throw his toys instead of play with them, spinning the wheels on the truck instead of pushing it and things like that; became obsessed with a basting brush from the kitchen - he then had one in his hand for the next 4+ years. He would line the brushes up in a row by size, but would not play with toys. His social skills were always off, sitting at the table to do a cooking project with his peers did not have any meaning to him, especially since he wasn't understanding the signing either so we did not worry much then about the not being engaged. The behavior started with the throwing of toys and clearing of tables, desks, and so on. Towards the end of that phase he began the slapping at people's faces to play. For all practical purposes he fully met the diagnostic criteria for autism. We did a couple things that I believe helped him - I am not sure how much use to you they are, since your daughter's problems may be from a very different reason and the people you have in your area to help you may be different, but I share this to share hope that for Dylan this appearing so autistic did not last once we figured out the best ways to help him. (I am also not saying she is the same as Dylan, but the lack of attending socially is often interpreted as autistic-like) The first was to recognize that he was not fully able to process everything he saw, so even though he could pick out a bit of lint off a tan carpet, and he seemed to see well enough to get around without bumping into things, his brain could not make sense of the movements of sign language. We did specific interventions to help his brain understand what he saw better and that helped a lot. The next thing was to help him figure out how to what I call " organize his nervous system " . We did this through the help of HANDLE Institute. Now 1 and 1/2 years later he is finally being able to participate in the learning of concepts - I knew he understood them in his head, but we had no way to talk about them or give words to them. Now he is writing 3 word sentences using either pictures of the sign or pictures of the object and he is beginning to sign words. But I think the biggest change for me is that he now looks at people's faces and is engaged socially. He still has the impact of combined vision and hearing loss, no semi-ciruclar canals and all that, but he is back to what I would consider " normal " development when considering those factors. It is night and day different than the " autistic-like " years. I think my best advice is to find the right people to evaluate your daughter - so you get information that makes sense to you. I always knew Dylan had the cognition even though he didn't have the skills that proved it. If his team had insisted that he was just retarded and not expect him to learn then that is no good. The trick is finding the team that will work with you to help you figure out what works best for your daughter and this takes time. Kim > My Sinaya has just turned 4. To my surprise I discovered how much kids are > learning in Kindergarten. > I am a little worried about your learning pattern. She has always met the > milestones yet now it seems she is beginning to have difficulty mastering some > of the basic skills such as writing letters and drawing shapes. Although she > can recognize them when she see them. > Another issue I am having is her behavior toward strangers and change. This > is a good thing when we are out in stores but when she is in a her class room > she will not interact with the kids nor the teacher. I am afraid this will > cause her to be held back. > I have gotten her enrolled in an early intervention program yet her screen > didn't go well considering Sinaya would not talk/respond. > Can anyone please help me help her!! > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Jocelyn- The things you are seeing in Sinaya sound a bit like what we are seeing in my Aubrie. These things have always been there. I have thought of them as " quirks " cuz I have no other way to describe them. I've been aware of the way these differences in learning and processing have impacted other kids older than Aubrie so I've been watching and wondering. Well, in the past months, they've finally became big enough to interfere with her learning and interacting at school. She's in a regular 2nd grade classroom with a 1:1 aide and lots of therapies. She's been doing quite well academically and ok socially. But suddenly, it seems she's hit her threshold of keeping it " together " . She's having a hard time paying attention. When I study with her at home, and even in everyday interactions, I can see that her gears just don't click the way other kids' do. We have found a pediatric neurodevelopmental psychologist to help us evaluate what's going on and develop a plan to manage it. I don't expect it's anything that can be " cured " , but I do expect that we can do things to help her achieve her true potential, stay on task better, etc. I am also attending a HANDLE Institute 2-day course on " Understanding Neurodevelopmental Differences " in the Chicago area. I hope that will give me the basic understanding I need to better understand the doctor's reports and plans. It took me a long time to find the right doctor in our state and I have to travel 4 hours to get to her. HANDLE is based out of Seattle but does reach out to kids all over the country. Just sharing what we are doing to offer suggested paths for you. As Colleen said in an unrelated post, the behaviors really stretch us since there is no easy fix. On the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation website, there is a link to the articles in a recent journal publication-- all about CHARGE behaviors. Some of those articles may give you insights and may be helpful to the doctor or therapists who might help you along the way. Also, in the CHARGE UK Family Support Group newsletter (link: http://www.widerworld.co.uk/charge/January%202006%20newsletter_files/January %202006%20newsletter.htm ) there is a glossary of CHARGE behaviors that I copied and shared with all of Aubrie's IEP team to help them understand the issues I was concerned about. It helps for them to see in writing that these things are real and not just something you are creating. It also helps for them to understand that even the CHARGE experts don't totally understand why our kids have these issues or the best way to manage them -- so why should your local providers think they will have all the answers? Gives justification for consulting outside resources. I'm going on and probably overwhelming you with info that you may not need. This is our big issue right now so you got me on a roll! Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Jocelyn- The things you are seeing in Sinaya sound a bit like what we are seeing in my Aubrie. These things have always been there. I have thought of them as " quirks " cuz I have no other way to describe them. I've been aware of the way these differences in learning and processing have impacted other kids older than Aubrie so I've been watching and wondering. Well, in the past months, they've finally became big enough to interfere with her learning and interacting at school. She's in a regular 2nd grade classroom with a 1:1 aide and lots of therapies. She's been doing quite well academically and ok socially. But suddenly, it seems she's hit her threshold of keeping it " together " . She's having a hard time paying attention. When I study with her at home, and even in everyday interactions, I can see that her gears just don't click the way other kids' do. We have found a pediatric neurodevelopmental psychologist to help us evaluate what's going on and develop a plan to manage it. I don't expect it's anything that can be " cured " , but I do expect that we can do things to help her achieve her true potential, stay on task better, etc. I am also attending a HANDLE Institute 2-day course on " Understanding Neurodevelopmental Differences " in the Chicago area. I hope that will give me the basic understanding I need to better understand the doctor's reports and plans. It took me a long time to find the right doctor in our state and I have to travel 4 hours to get to her. HANDLE is based out of Seattle but does reach out to kids all over the country. Just sharing what we are doing to offer suggested paths for you. As Colleen said in an unrelated post, the behaviors really stretch us since there is no easy fix. On the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation website, there is a link to the articles in a recent journal publication-- all about CHARGE behaviors. Some of those articles may give you insights and may be helpful to the doctor or therapists who might help you along the way. Also, in the CHARGE UK Family Support Group newsletter (link: http://www.widerworld.co.uk/charge/January%202006%20newsletter_files/January %202006%20newsletter.htm ) there is a glossary of CHARGE behaviors that I copied and shared with all of Aubrie's IEP team to help them understand the issues I was concerned about. It helps for them to see in writing that these things are real and not just something you are creating. It also helps for them to understand that even the CHARGE experts don't totally understand why our kids have these issues or the best way to manage them -- so why should your local providers think they will have all the answers? Gives justification for consulting outside resources. I'm going on and probably overwhelming you with info that you may not need. This is our big issue right now so you got me on a roll! Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 I am so glad you shared this Michele, It provides a good balance between how extreme Dylan was and then how disrupting the quirks for the kids who talk, go to regular classes, socialize and so on are. Kim > Jocelyn- > The things you are seeing in Sinaya sound a bit like what we are seeing in > my Aubrie. These things have always been there. I have thought of them as > " quirks " cuz I have no other way to describe them. I've been aware of the > way these differences in learning and processing have impacted other kids > older than Aubrie so I've been watching and wondering. Well, in the past > months, they've finally became big enough to interfere with her learning and > interacting at school. She's in a regular 2nd grade classroom with a 1:1 > aide and lots of therapies. She's been doing quite well academically and ok > socially. But suddenly, it seems she's hit her threshold of keeping it > " together " . She's having a hard time paying attention. When I study with > her at home, and even in everyday interactions, I can see that her gears > just don't click the way other kids' do. > > We have found a pediatric neurodevelopmental psychologist to help us > evaluate what's going on and develop a plan to manage it. I don't expect > it's anything that can be " cured " , but I do expect that we can do things to > help her achieve her true potential, stay on task better, etc. I am also > attending a HANDLE Institute 2-day course on " Understanding > Neurodevelopmental Differences " in the Chicago area. I hope that will give > me the basic understanding I need to better understand the doctor's reports > and plans. > > It took me a long time to find the right doctor in our state and I have to > travel 4 hours to get to her. HANDLE is based out of Seattle but does reach > out to kids all over the country. > > Just sharing what we are doing to offer suggested paths for you. As Colleen > said in an unrelated post, the behaviors really stretch us since there is no > easy fix. > > On the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation website, there is a link to the articles > in a recent journal publication-- all about CHARGE behaviors. Some of those > articles may give you insights and may be helpful to the doctor or > therapists who might help you along the way. Also, in the CHARGE UK Family > Support Group newsletter (link: > http://www.widerworld.co.uk/charge/January%202006%20newsletter_files/January > %202006%20newsletter.htm ) there is a glossary of CHARGE behaviors that I > copied and shared with all of Aubrie's IEP team to help them understand the > issues I was concerned about. It helps for them to see in writing that > these things are real and not just something you are creating. It also > helps for them to understand that even the CHARGE experts don't totally > understand why our kids have these issues or the best way to manage them -- > so why should your local providers think they will have all the answers? > Gives justification for consulting outside resources. > > I'm going on and probably overwhelming you with info that you may not need. > This is our big issue right now so you got me on a roll! > > Michele W > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE: > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995 > > Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the > CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada. > For information about the CHARGE Syndrome > Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter), > please contact marion@... or visit > the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org > (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca) > > 8th International > CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at > www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Kim- I truly think you and I are dealing with the same thing with Dylan and Aubrie. Regardless of the different places they hold on the CHARGE spectrum -- I think the neurodevelopmental issues are really the same and just manifest in different ways because our kids function at different levels. I am learning tons from Dylan's experiences. I think it's critical for the experts and other parents to realize that all of the CHARGE issues -- feeding, speech, communication, mobility, etc -- impact all kids regardless of how " well " they are doing. I would not be as invested in HANDLE, CST, etc as possible solutions for Aubrie if I didn't know of the improvements you've seen with Dylan. Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Re: 4 yr old with Charge I am so glad you shared this Michele, It provides a good balance between how extreme Dylan was and then how disrupting the quirks for the kids who talk, go to regular classes, socialize and so on are. Kim > Jocelyn- > The things you are seeing in Sinaya sound a bit like what we are seeing in > my Aubrie. These things have always been there. I have thought of them as > " quirks " cuz I have no other way to describe them. I've been aware of the > way these differences in learning and processing have impacted other kids > older than Aubrie so I've been watching and wondering. Well, in the past > months, they've finally became big enough to interfere with her learning and > interacting at school. She's in a regular 2nd grade classroom with a 1:1 > aide and lots of therapies. She's been doing quite well academically and ok > socially. But suddenly, it seems she's hit her threshold of keeping it > " together " . She's having a hard time paying attention. When I study with > her at home, and even in everyday interactions, I can see that her gears > just don't click the way other kids' do. > > We have found a pediatric neurodevelopmental psychologist to help us > evaluate what's going on and develop a plan to manage it. I don't expect > it's anything that can be " cured " , but I do expect that we can do things to > help her achieve her true potential, stay on task better, etc. I am also > attending a HANDLE Institute 2-day course on " Understanding > Neurodevelopmental Differences " in the Chicago area. I hope that will give > me the basic understanding I need to better understand the doctor's reports > and plans. > > It took me a long time to find the right doctor in our state and I have to > travel 4 hours to get to her. HANDLE is based out of Seattle but does reach > out to kids all over the country. > > Just sharing what we are doing to offer suggested paths for you. As Colleen > said in an unrelated post, the behaviors really stretch us since there is no > easy fix. > > On the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation website, there is a link to the articles > in a recent journal publication-- all about CHARGE behaviors. Some of those > articles may give you insights and may be helpful to the doctor or > therapists who might help you along the way. Also, in the CHARGE UK Family > Support Group newsletter (link: > http://www.widerworld.co.uk/charge/January%202006%20newsletter_files/January > %202006%20newsletter.htm ) there is a glossary of CHARGE behaviors that I > copied and shared with all of Aubrie's IEP team to help them understand the > issues I was concerned about. It helps for them to see in writing that > these things are real and not just something you are creating. It also > helps for them to understand that even the CHARGE experts don't totally > understand why our kids have these issues or the best way to manage them -- > so why should your local providers think they will have all the answers? > Gives justification for consulting outside resources. > > I'm going on and probably overwhelming you with info that you may not need. > This is our big issue right now so you got me on a roll! > > Michele W > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE: > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995 > > Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the > CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada. > For information about the CHARGE Syndrome > Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter), > please contact marion@... or visit > the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org > (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca) > > 8th International > CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at > www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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