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Kim - I certainly could have mis-spoken about the growth and the retina!

Michele- The child I mentioned who has such success with the occuvite is

tube fed. They worked with their doctor to come up with the correct dose to

grind up and put in the formula. They also grind up spinach and give her

measured portions 2xday so she receives Mother Natures brand of Lutein!

Since the Ocuvite is marketed to the older population to help avoud macular

degeneration, I don't think they provide a children's dose.

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> Does Ocuvite come in a form little kids can take orally?

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Kim - I certainly could have mis-spoken about the growth and the retina!

Michele- The child I mentioned who has such success with the occuvite is

tube fed. They worked with their doctor to come up with the correct dose to

grind up and put in the formula. They also grind up spinach and give her

measured portions 2xday so she receives Mother Natures brand of Lutein!

Since the Ocuvite is marketed to the older population to help avoud macular

degeneration, I don't think they provide a children's dose.

Sally

> Does Ocuvite come in a form little kids can take orally?

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Kim - I certainly could have mis-spoken about the growth and the retina!

Michele- The child I mentioned who has such success with the occuvite is

tube fed. They worked with their doctor to come up with the correct dose to

grind up and put in the formula. They also grind up spinach and give her

measured portions 2xday so she receives Mother Natures brand of Lutein!

Since the Ocuvite is marketed to the older population to help avoud macular

degeneration, I don't think they provide a children's dose.

Sally

> Does Ocuvite come in a form little kids can take orally?

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That's what I was afraid of. Sometimes I wish we still had a Gtube just for

supplements that are so nasty tasting. I can't get Omega 3s down her -- and

certainly wouldn't get Ocuvite or lots of spinach in her daily.

Michele W

mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

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Michele - did you try the omega brite capsules? They are the least fishy

tasting I have found. Kim

> That's what I was afraid of. Sometimes I wish we still had a Gtube just for

> supplements that are so nasty tasting. I can't get Omega 3s down her -- and

> certainly wouldn't get Ocuvite or lots of spinach in her daily.

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> Michele W

> mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

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Michele - did you try the omega brite capsules? They are the least fishy

tasting I have found. Kim

> That's what I was afraid of. Sometimes I wish we still had a Gtube just for

> supplements that are so nasty tasting. I can't get Omega 3s down her -- and

> certainly wouldn't get Ocuvite or lots of spinach in her daily.

>

> Michele W

> mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

>

>

>

> CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE:

> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995

>

> Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the

> CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada.

> For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

> Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

> please contact marion@... or visit

> the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

> (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca)

>

> 8th International

> CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at

> www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

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I have not tried that particular brand. We need NO-fish-taste or else it's

not gonna work. Even just the oily texture is gross enough to keep her from

accepting it. This kid has so much to deal with that I just can't force

something gross down her throat every day if it's not absolutely necessary.

So I guess I'm biding my time til she can swallow or something.

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mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

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I have not tried that particular brand. We need NO-fish-taste or else it's

not gonna work. Even just the oily texture is gross enough to keep her from

accepting it. This kid has so much to deal with that I just can't force

something gross down her throat every day if it's not absolutely necessary.

So I guess I'm biding my time til she can swallow or something.

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mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

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No, it doesn't. And I am very interested to know the details in this case.

What exactly is meant by " success " ?

Ocuvite Preservision is a vitamin formulation used to help slow the

progression of age- related macular degeneration. It's not a cure--it doesn't

make the macular degeneration that has already ocurred go away, and it doesn't

stop further progression. It just slows down the disease course, so that

hopefully the person affected will maintain useful vision for the remainder of

their life-span. I have not heard of it being used to treat retinal

degeneration related to a coloboma.

Even though it's a vitamin supplement & would seem to be pretty safe, keep in

mind the recommended adult doseage of 4 tablets a day has very high doses of the

fat-soluble vitamins E (1333% of the RDA for adults) and vitamin A (573% of the

RDA for adults). We do not really know the ultimate long-term effects of taking

this high of a doseage of these vitamins. After the initial study for this

supplement came out (the AREDS study), another study showed that smokers had an

increased risk of developing lung cancer with high doses of Vitamin A, and they

shouldn't take extra vitamin A (that's when Ocuvite Lutein came out--it does not

contain any vitamin A). My point here is that something that might seem pretty

benign can have significant side effects, and I would be very cautious about

giving Ocuvite Preservision to a child (it's definately not in the same category

as the Flintstone's Vitamins!).

S Prouty wrote:

Kim - I certainly could have mis-spoken about the growth and the retina!

Michele- The child I mentioned who has such success with the occuvite is

tube fed. They worked with their doctor to come up with the correct dose to

grind up and put in the formula. They also grind up spinach and give her

measured portions 2xday so she receives Mother Natures brand of Lutein!

Since the Ocuvite is marketed to the older population to help avoud macular

degeneration, I don't think they provide a children's dose.

Sally

> Does Ocuvite come in a form little kids can take orally?

CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE:

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995

Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the

CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada.

For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

please contact marion@... or visit

the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

(CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca)

8th International

CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at

www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

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Another good point! I usually remind myself that if something has the power

to do good, then it may have equal power to do bad if used improperly. So I

try to get all the info I can before making decisions.

Michele W

mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

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I read a few more emails in this thread, and realized it was Ocuvite Lutein that

everyone is talking about. This one is just 100% of the adult RDA in

everything, so not such high concentrations of the vitamins (and no Vitamin A).

Still, there is no children's dose that I'm aware of.

S Prouty wrote: Kim - I certainly could have mis-spoken

about the growth and the retina!

Michele- The child I mentioned who has such success with the occuvite is

tube fed. They worked with their doctor to come up with the correct dose to

grind up and put in the formula. They also grind up spinach and give her

measured portions 2xday so she receives Mother Natures brand of Lutein!

Since the Ocuvite is marketed to the older population to help avoud macular

degeneration, I don't think they provide a children's dose.

Sally

> Does Ocuvite come in a form little kids can take orally?

CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE:

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995

Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the

CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada.

For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter),

please contact marion@... or visit

the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

(CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca)

8th International

CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at

www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-.

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and Michele,

The " success " I mentioned was regarding a family whose daughter had EXTREME

light sensitivity. Her parents got special permission from the state patrol

to have darkened car windows, they kept their window draperies closed all

day, the dad made special dark goggles for her to wear, etc. Once on Ocuvite

with Lutein (a suggestion after reading about it on this listserve) and

spinach in her tube feedings, her light sensitivity decreased and she is

" out of her dark prison " . She does NOT HAVE CHARGE, but I know that kids

with colobomas can have light sensitivity. I agree, the Ocuvite

Preservision is totally inappropriate.

Additionally, I received this reply from Bausch & Lomb Inc............

MY QUESTION:

Do you have Ocuvite with Lutein available for children?  If not, what is the

correct dosage for a child?  My 24 year son, who is extremely light

sensitive and experienced floaters, takes Ocuvite and both have decreased. A

friend, who has an 8 year old child with the same condition (colobomas due

to CHARGE syndrome) asked about a child's dosage. Thank you. Sally "

 

THEIR REPLY: Ocuvite for children is currently not available. Ocuvite

products are vitamin/mineral supplements and are not contraindicated in use

with children. With regard to the appropriate dosage, it is best to consult

the child's pediatrician.

 

Thank you for your interest in Bausch & Lomb Incorporated's products. If I

can be of further assistance, please feel free to contact me at

1-, ext. 2411.

Best Regards,

Sherry R.

Pharmacovigilance Specialist

 

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is meant by " success " ?>

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Sally-

Thanks for all the clarification and for taking the time to contact Baush &

Lomb! Isn't the internet wonderful?

Michele W

mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

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Sally-

Thanks for all the clarification and for taking the time to contact Baush &

Lomb! Isn't the internet wonderful?

Michele W

mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

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