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Liz--I too had high BP prior to Stage IV cancer. I went off the meds

a year ago--B/P just went to normal or below. What, pray tell, is

the stockyard remedy? Good luck to you and Galen

Katy

> Jane

> Sorry to hear about Nick, and all the probs right now!

> You have been so good about giving others encouragement and help,

> that I just wish all goes well for u & Hubby!

>

> My hubby Galen the one that had the old stockyard remedy haha

> He is 68,with liver met.(tried removing the right lobe during

surgery

> found out couldn't do it cuz tumor lying on portal vein)having a

lot

> of probs. with blood pressure dropping, gets stumbling and

confused,

> well we have been cutting dosage of B/P meds back and seems to help

> but still needs cut more I believe.

> He has finished his Avastin and took CT scan we find out results

> Monday and what will happen from there!

>

> Just wanted to let you know tho that hugs and prayers are with you,

> and just try to keep hangin in there!

>

> Liz

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Liz--I too had high BP prior to Stage IV cancer. I went off the meds

a year ago--B/P just went to normal or below. What, pray tell, is

the stockyard remedy? Good luck to you and Galen

Katy

> Jane

> Sorry to hear about Nick, and all the probs right now!

> You have been so good about giving others encouragement and help,

> that I just wish all goes well for u & Hubby!

>

> My hubby Galen the one that had the old stockyard remedy haha

> He is 68,with liver met.(tried removing the right lobe during

surgery

> found out couldn't do it cuz tumor lying on portal vein)having a

lot

> of probs. with blood pressure dropping, gets stumbling and

confused,

> well we have been cutting dosage of B/P meds back and seems to help

> but still needs cut more I believe.

> He has finished his Avastin and took CT scan we find out results

> Monday and what will happen from there!

>

> Just wanted to let you know tho that hugs and prayers are with you,

> and just try to keep hangin in there!

>

> Liz

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Liz--I too had high BP prior to Stage IV cancer. I went off the meds

a year ago--B/P just went to normal or below. What, pray tell, is

the stockyard remedy? Good luck to you and Galen

Katy

> Jane

> Sorry to hear about Nick, and all the probs right now!

> You have been so good about giving others encouragement and help,

> that I just wish all goes well for u & Hubby!

>

> My hubby Galen the one that had the old stockyard remedy haha

> He is 68,with liver met.(tried removing the right lobe during

surgery

> found out couldn't do it cuz tumor lying on portal vein)having a

lot

> of probs. with blood pressure dropping, gets stumbling and

confused,

> well we have been cutting dosage of B/P meds back and seems to help

> but still needs cut more I believe.

> He has finished his Avastin and took CT scan we find out results

> Monday and what will happen from there!

>

> Just wanted to let you know tho that hugs and prayers are with you,

> and just try to keep hangin in there!

>

> Liz

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Well early Fri.,Nick had a breakdown and I called the Av-Med Oncology nurse

who

told me to call his onc.,ask did he(onc)want us to ambulance Nick to the

office

or the ER. They were busy(as usual)and after 10 minutes I called 911. They

came,

did the vitals.took a look see,started an IV and off we went. ER was great.

C.A.T

turned out brain but then I did not know that,chest x-ray,blood work,blood

cultures

and all the things like urine,sugar etc etc. Bottom line,He has some kind of

infecion

and is dehydrated. They gave him I.V. drips.antibiotics,etc etc. Admitted

7:00pm

On oxygen,had aersol treatments,more antiboitics,I & O and assisted oob. This

afternoon two young people came to take him for a C.A.T.,we said had one

yesterday.

They checked,told us brain,and this was to be chest. I told them he was on

oxygen(2 litre) and his underwear had snaps,*once this posed a problem. We live

close by. My daughter and her hunny came to take me home, feed dog and birds

and change clothes. get in house,phone rings,do't recognize number,man answers

says he is from Baptist Hospital Business Office and how am I going to pay my

$600.00 co-pay

I explained,just left,hubby in C.A.T. Scan land and I will discuss Monday.

It's saturday

after 3;30 and I can't solve that. I don't know if they will let him go

Sunday,Monday

or waht but the manner and tome were both abroupt and demanding. I called

Av-med

they said Mon I shold call administration because there are ways to deal with

it and that was not the action of a first class establishment. Needless to

say I am p....d

off . yet in todays newspaper,I see our local Hospital jackson memorial had

to write off$50 million in unpaid bills. There must be a way not to upset a

pt.(Nick is 73,infirm

and at this minute frail) and I,hhis irish Wife have my dander up. Just had

to blow

off steam. Great work on one side,offset by a callous approach on the other.

We

sometimes have problems since our last name is n,similar to a womans

first

nae and he has oftern been mistaken for another person. Life has its ups and

downs

and Lord,I am sorry I lost it.but sometimes the strain gets to you and you

blow it.

I apologize but I am still mad as a hornet. nick & jane

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Well early Fri.,Nick had a breakdown and I called the Av-Med Oncology nurse

who

told me to call his onc.,ask did he(onc)want us to ambulance Nick to the

office

or the ER. They were busy(as usual)and after 10 minutes I called 911. They

came,

did the vitals.took a look see,started an IV and off we went. ER was great.

C.A.T

turned out brain but then I did not know that,chest x-ray,blood work,blood

cultures

and all the things like urine,sugar etc etc. Bottom line,He has some kind of

infecion

and is dehydrated. They gave him I.V. drips.antibiotics,etc etc. Admitted

7:00pm

On oxygen,had aersol treatments,more antiboitics,I & O and assisted oob. This

afternoon two young people came to take him for a C.A.T.,we said had one

yesterday.

They checked,told us brain,and this was to be chest. I told them he was on

oxygen(2 litre) and his underwear had snaps,*once this posed a problem. We live

close by. My daughter and her hunny came to take me home, feed dog and birds

and change clothes. get in house,phone rings,do't recognize number,man answers

says he is from Baptist Hospital Business Office and how am I going to pay my

$600.00 co-pay

I explained,just left,hubby in C.A.T. Scan land and I will discuss Monday.

It's saturday

after 3;30 and I can't solve that. I don't know if they will let him go

Sunday,Monday

or waht but the manner and tome were both abroupt and demanding. I called

Av-med

they said Mon I shold call administration because there are ways to deal with

it and that was not the action of a first class establishment. Needless to

say I am p....d

off . yet in todays newspaper,I see our local Hospital jackson memorial had

to write off$50 million in unpaid bills. There must be a way not to upset a

pt.(Nick is 73,infirm

and at this minute frail) and I,hhis irish Wife have my dander up. Just had

to blow

off steam. Great work on one side,offset by a callous approach on the other.

We

sometimes have problems since our last name is n,similar to a womans

first

nae and he has oftern been mistaken for another person. Life has its ups and

downs

and Lord,I am sorry I lost it.but sometimes the strain gets to you and you

blow it.

I apologize but I am still mad as a hornet. nick & jane

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Well early Fri.,Nick had a breakdown and I called the Av-Med Oncology nurse

who

told me to call his onc.,ask did he(onc)want us to ambulance Nick to the

office

or the ER. They were busy(as usual)and after 10 minutes I called 911. They

came,

did the vitals.took a look see,started an IV and off we went. ER was great.

C.A.T

turned out brain but then I did not know that,chest x-ray,blood work,blood

cultures

and all the things like urine,sugar etc etc. Bottom line,He has some kind of

infecion

and is dehydrated. They gave him I.V. drips.antibiotics,etc etc. Admitted

7:00pm

On oxygen,had aersol treatments,more antiboitics,I & O and assisted oob. This

afternoon two young people came to take him for a C.A.T.,we said had one

yesterday.

They checked,told us brain,and this was to be chest. I told them he was on

oxygen(2 litre) and his underwear had snaps,*once this posed a problem. We live

close by. My daughter and her hunny came to take me home, feed dog and birds

and change clothes. get in house,phone rings,do't recognize number,man answers

says he is from Baptist Hospital Business Office and how am I going to pay my

$600.00 co-pay

I explained,just left,hubby in C.A.T. Scan land and I will discuss Monday.

It's saturday

after 3;30 and I can't solve that. I don't know if they will let him go

Sunday,Monday

or waht but the manner and tome were both abroupt and demanding. I called

Av-med

they said Mon I shold call administration because there are ways to deal with

it and that was not the action of a first class establishment. Needless to

say I am p....d

off . yet in todays newspaper,I see our local Hospital jackson memorial had

to write off$50 million in unpaid bills. There must be a way not to upset a

pt.(Nick is 73,infirm

and at this minute frail) and I,hhis irish Wife have my dander up. Just had

to blow

off steam. Great work on one side,offset by a callous approach on the other.

We

sometimes have problems since our last name is n,similar to a womans

first

nae and he has oftern been mistaken for another person. Life has its ups and

downs

and Lord,I am sorry I lost it.but sometimes the strain gets to you and you

blow it.

I apologize but I am still mad as a hornet. nick & jane

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Katy

The stockyards remedy was when Galen was working in Omaha @

Stockyards some of the old timers up there told that taking a swig of

blackberry brandy would stop the diarrhea, our family has used that

for years to help.haha Well Galen says it is too strong of taste for

him now, so he uses the usual medicines now for it.

You mentioned the b/p I had cousin tell me that their onc had told

them some people never have high b/p again after taking chemo for

some reason. I am beginning to believe this cuz he has fell,

confusion and everything else that goes alon with low b/p. Last week

he didn't even know the door where we were to go out of it asked me

how to get out! He realized something was going on with him also. We

take his b/p 3 -4 times a day to keep track of it. Also going to talk

to dr. more monday about this.

Take care & god bless

Liz

> > Jane

> > Sorry to hear about Nick, and all the probs right now!

> > You have been so good about giving others encouragement and help,

> > that I just wish all goes well for u & Hubby!

> >

> > My hubby Galen the one that had the old stockyard remedy haha

> > He is 68,with liver met.(tried removing the right lobe during

> surgery

> > found out couldn't do it cuz tumor lying on portal vein)having a

> lot

> > of probs. with blood pressure dropping, gets stumbling and

> confused,

> > well we have been cutting dosage of B/P meds back and seems to

help

> > but still needs cut more I believe.

> > He has finished his Avastin and took CT scan we find out results

> > Monday and what will happen from there!

> >

> > Just wanted to let you know tho that hugs and prayers are with

you,

> > and just try to keep hangin in there!

> >

> > Liz

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Katy

The stockyards remedy was when Galen was working in Omaha @

Stockyards some of the old timers up there told that taking a swig of

blackberry brandy would stop the diarrhea, our family has used that

for years to help.haha Well Galen says it is too strong of taste for

him now, so he uses the usual medicines now for it.

You mentioned the b/p I had cousin tell me that their onc had told

them some people never have high b/p again after taking chemo for

some reason. I am beginning to believe this cuz he has fell,

confusion and everything else that goes alon with low b/p. Last week

he didn't even know the door where we were to go out of it asked me

how to get out! He realized something was going on with him also. We

take his b/p 3 -4 times a day to keep track of it. Also going to talk

to dr. more monday about this.

Take care & god bless

Liz

> > Jane

> > Sorry to hear about Nick, and all the probs right now!

> > You have been so good about giving others encouragement and help,

> > that I just wish all goes well for u & Hubby!

> >

> > My hubby Galen the one that had the old stockyard remedy haha

> > He is 68,with liver met.(tried removing the right lobe during

> surgery

> > found out couldn't do it cuz tumor lying on portal vein)having a

> lot

> > of probs. with blood pressure dropping, gets stumbling and

> confused,

> > well we have been cutting dosage of B/P meds back and seems to

help

> > but still needs cut more I believe.

> > He has finished his Avastin and took CT scan we find out results

> > Monday and what will happen from there!

> >

> > Just wanted to let you know tho that hugs and prayers are with

you,

> > and just try to keep hangin in there!

> >

> > Liz

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Katy

The stockyards remedy was when Galen was working in Omaha @

Stockyards some of the old timers up there told that taking a swig of

blackberry brandy would stop the diarrhea, our family has used that

for years to help.haha Well Galen says it is too strong of taste for

him now, so he uses the usual medicines now for it.

You mentioned the b/p I had cousin tell me that their onc had told

them some people never have high b/p again after taking chemo for

some reason. I am beginning to believe this cuz he has fell,

confusion and everything else that goes alon with low b/p. Last week

he didn't even know the door where we were to go out of it asked me

how to get out! He realized something was going on with him also. We

take his b/p 3 -4 times a day to keep track of it. Also going to talk

to dr. more monday about this.

Take care & god bless

Liz

> > Jane

> > Sorry to hear about Nick, and all the probs right now!

> > You have been so good about giving others encouragement and help,

> > that I just wish all goes well for u & Hubby!

> >

> > My hubby Galen the one that had the old stockyard remedy haha

> > He is 68,with liver met.(tried removing the right lobe during

> surgery

> > found out couldn't do it cuz tumor lying on portal vein)having a

> lot

> > of probs. with blood pressure dropping, gets stumbling and

> confused,

> > well we have been cutting dosage of B/P meds back and seems to

help

> > but still needs cut more I believe.

> > He has finished his Avastin and took CT scan we find out results

> > Monday and what will happen from there!

> >

> > Just wanted to let you know tho that hugs and prayers are with

you,

> > and just try to keep hangin in there!

> >

> > Liz

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Jane,

First let me give you a hug for you surely need one!I am so sorry to

hear that Nick is feeling so poorly,maybe now that he has been

admitted they can get him feeling better before he comes home too.

I probably wouldn't have been as nice as you to the guy that called

about the co-pay.I,also am Irish and have the temper to prove it when

provoked!I would definitely report him to the administration as well

as the hospital board of directors,there is just no excuse for being

so rude.

I hope that you will be able to get some sleep tonight and things

look better in the morning.I'm saying a special prayer for you and

Nick right now, that God will grant you both the strength,rest,and

His grace to see this through.

Hugs & Prayers to All,

H

S/O 'Hubby,52,diagnosed 7/31/03 inoperable stage IV cc

Third-line chemo of Avastin/CPT-11/5FU/LV for 3 mo,

5/20/04 CT scans show significant progression of disease,CEA:1060

6/2/04 started " Plan D " ,Folfox 4

> Well early Fri.,Nick had a breakdown and I called the Av-Med

Oncology nurse

> who

> told me to call his onc.,ask did he(onc)want us to ambulance Nick

to the

> office

> or the ER. They were busy(as usual)and after 10 minutes I called

911. They

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Jane- My thoughts and prayers are with you and Nick. I so hope that

his problems are transient and secondary to dehydration and some

easily treated infection.

Take care,

Kris

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Jane,

Please know that you and Nick are in my heart and prayers. You two

are a very special couple. May God guide you thru this most

difficult time.

Big Hugs,

Joyce

> It's the prayers and faith that keep us going. Nick came

home,today,July1st

> in the

> care of Vitas Hospice. The cancer just spread and they cannot

control it and

> to give more chemo will only cause more pain. We have accepted the

Dr.s

> decision and ask God for the grace to do what has to be done.

Fortunately all the

> kids have come in and out and the grandkids too. He is a great

man, a good

> husband,great dad and wonderful grandfather. he was you friend for

life and and

> seldom had a harsh word.

> We will have this time with him,reminisce about the good times and

share his

> pain

> and sorrow at having to leave us. He will live his foorprints on

the sands of

> time

> and I have had 44 years to be happy about. Miracles happen, I

won't say we

> don't want one or believe in one. we all do. Tuesday he received

the Sacrament

> of ExtremeUnction

> and received a piece of the Host yesterday. It quieted the tremors

and he

> seemed more at peace. We have all accepted the fact that it is

time to release

> him from

> the wracking pain and we ask Godto give us the grace to accpet

this. Jane

>

>

>

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Jane,

I wish I could hug you in person. You two have fought hard; I pray

for the peace of Christ to come to you.

Sharon

> It's the prayers and faith that keep us going. Nick came

home,today,July1st

> in the

> care of Vitas Hospice. The cancer just spread and they cannot

control it and

> to give more chemo will only cause more pain. We have accepted the

Dr.s

> decision and ask God for the grace to do what has to be done.

Fortunately all the

> kids have come in and out and the grandkids too. He is a great man,

a good

> husband,great dad and wonderful grandfather. he was you friend for

life and and

> seldom had a harsh word.

> We will have this time with him,reminisce about the good times and

share his

> pain

> and sorrow at having to leave us. He will live his foorprints on

the sands of

> time

> and I have had 44 years to be happy about. Miracles happen, I won't

say we

> don't want one or believe in one. we all do. Tuesday he received

the Sacrament

> of ExtremeUnction

> and received a piece of the Host yesterday. It quieted the tremors

and he

> seemed more at peace. We have all accepted the fact that it is

time to release

> him from

> the wracking pain and we ask Godto give us the grace to accpet

this. Jane

>

>

>

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Jane,

Please accept my prayers that Nick will come out of this bad patch

very soon. I follow your posts as I do so many on this board who are

suffering from this horrid disease. I lurk mostly but please know

that there are many out here who understand and pray for you every

day, even if they cannot and do not post.

Jane... it is so hard to watch your loved one be so ill and to feel

so helpless. Sometimes I think it may be harder on the caregivers

than the sick who they look after.

Please keep us posted and God bless you and Nick.

Kit

DX stage IV 6-2003 w/liver and lung mets

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> It's the prayers and faith that keep us going. Nick came

home,today,July1st

> in the

> care of Vitas Hospice. The cancer just spread and they cannot

control it and

> to give more chemo will only cause more pain. We have accepted the

Dr.s

> decision and ask God for the grace to do what has to be done.

Fortunately all the

> kids have come in and out and the grandkids too. He is a great man,

a good

> husband,great dad and wonderful grandfather. he was you friend for

life and and

> seldom had a harsh word.

> We will have this time with him,reminisce about the good times and

share his

> pain

> and sorrow at having to leave us. He will live his foorprints on

the sands of

> time

> and I have had 44 years to be happy about. Miracles happen, I won't

say we

> don't want one or believe in one. we all do. Tuesday he received

the Sacrament

> of ExtremeUnction

> and received a piece of the Host yesterday. It quieted the tremors

and he

> seemed more at peace. We have all accepted the fact that it is

time to release

> him from

> the wracking pain and we ask Godto give us the grace to accpet

this. Jane

Dear Nick & Jane & Family,

I am so sorry to hear this new's.....You all have truely been an

inspiration to this site and to all of us your family here....I will

pray that the heavenly angels watch over all of you and the Lord

wrap's his arm's around each and every one of you and give's you the

strength to get through the coming day,s and week's ahead...Please

know my thought,s and prayer,s are with all of you....Give Nick a big

hug from all of us here...............((((((cyber-hugs to all of

you)))))) Hugs Jana

>

>

>

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Jane

Hospice can be very helpful when needed and will help u go thru this

time with nick and all of his needs. We had hospice when we were

caring for my mother she had a different kind with unknown primary

several years ago. Just let them help u and to make things a little

easier for you.

you and Nick take care now!

Liz

> Liz: Thank you and all the wonderful group praying for us. He is

riddled

> with this in-

> sideous disease and it has taken it's toll. We are blessed with

this Vitas

> Hospice

> Group,our own family and neighbors,friends and co workers. So many

people

> have

> written to say miracles are still there. We received info on many

new trials,

> from the MiamiCyberKnife Group,from many sources. It will literally

take a

> miracle,and yes,

> if we have a choice that is proority #1. He takes little food,has

> withdrawn,speaks but

> sort of far away,then clearly,so we kind of reread a lot of the

things we

> downloaded and some of the beautiful thoughts,expressions and e-

mails and it is a

> great comfort.

> Thanks,again Nick & Jane

>

>

>

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Jane

Hospice can be very helpful when needed and will help u go thru this

time with nick and all of his needs. We had hospice when we were

caring for my mother she had a different kind with unknown primary

several years ago. Just let them help u and to make things a little

easier for you.

you and Nick take care now!

Liz

> Liz: Thank you and all the wonderful group praying for us. He is

riddled

> with this in-

> sideous disease and it has taken it's toll. We are blessed with

this Vitas

> Hospice

> Group,our own family and neighbors,friends and co workers. So many

people

> have

> written to say miracles are still there. We received info on many

new trials,

> from the MiamiCyberKnife Group,from many sources. It will literally

take a

> miracle,and yes,

> if we have a choice that is proority #1. He takes little food,has

> withdrawn,speaks but

> sort of far away,then clearly,so we kind of reread a lot of the

things we

> downloaded and some of the beautiful thoughts,expressions and e-

mails and it is a

> great comfort.

> Thanks,again Nick & Jane

>

>

>

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Jane

Hospice can be very helpful when needed and will help u go thru this

time with nick and all of his needs. We had hospice when we were

caring for my mother she had a different kind with unknown primary

several years ago. Just let them help u and to make things a little

easier for you.

you and Nick take care now!

Liz

> Liz: Thank you and all the wonderful group praying for us. He is

riddled

> with this in-

> sideous disease and it has taken it's toll. We are blessed with

this Vitas

> Hospice

> Group,our own family and neighbors,friends and co workers. So many

people

> have

> written to say miracles are still there. We received info on many

new trials,

> from the MiamiCyberKnife Group,from many sources. It will literally

take a

> miracle,and yes,

> if we have a choice that is proority #1. He takes little food,has

> withdrawn,speaks but

> sort of far away,then clearly,so we kind of reread a lot of the

things we

> downloaded and some of the beautiful thoughts,expressions and e-

mails and it is a

> great comfort.

> Thanks,again Nick & Jane

>

>

>

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