Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 J4DCJ, The reason there are set backs is because everyone heals at a different rate. Also, many of us find that we cannot, for instance, eat raw fruits and vegetables on a daily basis. For instance, I can have a salad one night, but I need a cooked vegetable the next night. I may even be able to do 2-3 nights of salads... but then I need cooked vegetables for a bit to be sure my system stays on track. There can be setbacks because of many things. The problem, of course, is that the objective is to starve out the bad bacteria. What happens for the people who go on SCD, and then fall off the wagon, and then go back on SCD, and then fall off is that first they kill off the weakest bacteria, and then they fall off SCD and feed the remaining stronger ones, and they reproduce. So then they go back on SCD and kill off the weakest of those bacteria, and fall off SCD and feed the remaining stronger ones so THEY reproduce... and they make it harder and harder and harder on themselves in terms of achieving gut health because they keep breeding stronger versions of the bad bacteria. When an illegal happens by accident, it's not good (but there's no use kicking yourself for what happened, because that's not going to change the events), but getting back on the diet ASAP will eliminate a continued source of food for the bad bugs. Lots of people have what is sometimes called a " three month flare " where they are doing really well on SCD, and then, right at three months (or thereabouts), they have a massive flare, and get really incredible cravings for all kinds of illegals as the bad bugs make an effort not to die out and to get the food THEY want. I've seen some parents here on Pecan Bread ask about the possibility of a 5 month or a 7 month flare... and it does seem to be a possibility, although Elaine has never confirmed it. I know I had a 2/5 month and a 7.5 month flare, so it can happen. It's also worth doing research on C. Difficile and various parasites because some people find that this is a problem which rears its head after several months of healing. -- Marilyn (New Orleans, Louisiana, USA) Undiagnosed IBS, SCD Three Years Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 J4DCJ, The reason there are set backs is because everyone heals at a different rate. Also, many of us find that we cannot, for instance, eat raw fruits and vegetables on a daily basis. For instance, I can have a salad one night, but I need a cooked vegetable the next night. I may even be able to do 2-3 nights of salads... but then I need cooked vegetables for a bit to be sure my system stays on track. There can be setbacks because of many things. The problem, of course, is that the objective is to starve out the bad bacteria. What happens for the people who go on SCD, and then fall off the wagon, and then go back on SCD, and then fall off is that first they kill off the weakest bacteria, and then they fall off SCD and feed the remaining stronger ones, and they reproduce. So then they go back on SCD and kill off the weakest of those bacteria, and fall off SCD and feed the remaining stronger ones so THEY reproduce... and they make it harder and harder and harder on themselves in terms of achieving gut health because they keep breeding stronger versions of the bad bacteria. When an illegal happens by accident, it's not good (but there's no use kicking yourself for what happened, because that's not going to change the events), but getting back on the diet ASAP will eliminate a continued source of food for the bad bugs. Lots of people have what is sometimes called a " three month flare " where they are doing really well on SCD, and then, right at three months (or thereabouts), they have a massive flare, and get really incredible cravings for all kinds of illegals as the bad bugs make an effort not to die out and to get the food THEY want. I've seen some parents here on Pecan Bread ask about the possibility of a 5 month or a 7 month flare... and it does seem to be a possibility, although Elaine has never confirmed it. I know I had a 2/5 month and a 7.5 month flare, so it can happen. It's also worth doing research on C. Difficile and various parasites because some people find that this is a problem which rears its head after several months of healing. -- Marilyn (New Orleans, Louisiana, USA) Undiagnosed IBS, SCD Three Years Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 J4DCJ, The reason there are set backs is because everyone heals at a different rate. Also, many of us find that we cannot, for instance, eat raw fruits and vegetables on a daily basis. For instance, I can have a salad one night, but I need a cooked vegetable the next night. I may even be able to do 2-3 nights of salads... but then I need cooked vegetables for a bit to be sure my system stays on track. There can be setbacks because of many things. The problem, of course, is that the objective is to starve out the bad bacteria. What happens for the people who go on SCD, and then fall off the wagon, and then go back on SCD, and then fall off is that first they kill off the weakest bacteria, and then they fall off SCD and feed the remaining stronger ones, and they reproduce. So then they go back on SCD and kill off the weakest of those bacteria, and fall off SCD and feed the remaining stronger ones so THEY reproduce... and they make it harder and harder and harder on themselves in terms of achieving gut health because they keep breeding stronger versions of the bad bacteria. When an illegal happens by accident, it's not good (but there's no use kicking yourself for what happened, because that's not going to change the events), but getting back on the diet ASAP will eliminate a continued source of food for the bad bugs. Lots of people have what is sometimes called a " three month flare " where they are doing really well on SCD, and then, right at three months (or thereabouts), they have a massive flare, and get really incredible cravings for all kinds of illegals as the bad bugs make an effort not to die out and to get the food THEY want. I've seen some parents here on Pecan Bread ask about the possibility of a 5 month or a 7 month flare... and it does seem to be a possibility, although Elaine has never confirmed it. I know I had a 2/5 month and a 7.5 month flare, so it can happen. It's also worth doing research on C. Difficile and various parasites because some people find that this is a problem which rears its head after several months of healing. -- Marilyn (New Orleans, Louisiana, USA) Undiagnosed IBS, SCD Three Years Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 --- > > Lots of people have what is sometimes called a " three month flare " > where they are doing really well on SCD, and then, right at three > months (or thereabouts), they have a massive flare, and get really > incredible cravings for all kinds of illegals as the bad bugs make an > effort not to die out and to get the food THEY want. I would love to hear the science behind the bad bugs creating cravings in humans for the starchy foods they (the bad bugs)want. Are you suggesting it is a chemical process? So far I buy into everything suggested by Elaine, but this particular point taps into my skepticism and would love a solid explination. (8 yo - UC, SCD 4 1/2 weeks) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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