Re: Doctor Appt. results (long)

[Guest guest]

Well, it sounds like Armour is good stuff overall, then. My doc seems highly impressed with the idea of it, so I have a feeling I'll be trying it as soon as we figure out whether or not it's on my insurance's formulary if she has to do an override, pending of course the T3 test to see if I need the T3 in it. I'm glad it brought your cholesterol down, that's awesome! Just makes me want to go make people run more tests on it and see what exactly it does in the body. LOL!

- I started having elevated cholesterol levels for 3 years. Being treated on Synthroid for a year brought them down 240 to 227 but the good cholesterol got worse. I was tested 4 months later being soley on Armour and it went down to 187. I did not change anything. I had already been taking fish oil for close to a year so I really don't think it was major factor in the reduction of my cholesterol. I believe it was the Armour.Robin V. hypo people tend to have higher cholesterol (hoping> that will decrease as my hypo gets under control, but haven't read> anything saying definitely that it does, anybody else know?) > > > >

[Guest guest]

I WISH that I could take ALL Armour, as the evidence suggests that the pig thyroid fits right into the human receptor much more closely on each of our cell membranes. My problem is that I am a very good converter from T4 to T3, and the ratios there just became too much for me, after awhile of catching up and correcting terrible things that had been going on in my body. You know, the pig's parts match our cells so closely, that they are using their parts to replace human heart valves.

Re: Re: Doctor Appt. results (long)

Well, it sounds like Armour is good stuff overall, then. My doc seems highly impressed with the idea of it, so I have a feeling I'll be trying it as soon as we figure out whether or not it's on my insurance's formulary if she has to do an override, pending of course the T3 test to see if I need the T3 in it. I'm glad it brought your cholesterol down, that's awesome! Just makes me want to go make people run more tests on it and see what exactly it does in the body. LOL!

[Guest guest]

- if you don't mind me asking, how much Armour are you taking

and how much synthetic T4?

Thanks,

Robin

-- In The_Thyroid_Support_Group , " "

<marin@q...> wrote:

>

> I WISH that I could take ALL Armour, as the evidence suggests that

the pig thyroid fits right into the human receptor much more closely

on each of our cell membranes. My problem is that I am a very good

converter from T4 to T3, and the ratios there just became too much

for me, after awhile of catching up and correcting terrible things

that had been going on in my body. You know, the pig's parts match

our cells so closely, that they are using their parts to replace

human heart valves.

>

>

>

> Re: Re: Doctor Appt. results

(long)

>

>

> Well, it sounds like Armour is good stuff overall, then. My doc

seems highly impressed with the idea of it, so I have a feeling I'll

be trying it as soon as we figure out whether or not it's on my

insurance's formulary if she has to do an override, pending of course

the T3 test to see if I need the T3 in it. I'm glad it brought

your cholesterol down, that's awesome! Just makes me want to go make

people run more tests on it and see what exactly it does in the

body. LOL!

>

[Guest guest]

I've already gone the gambit of all Armour for around just over a yr and a

half. I stuck right with it, but discovered after awhile that my body just

can't handle those higher amts of T3 in proportion, while still needing more

T4. I do convert very well, so I am presently taking 30 mgs of Armour with

my 125 mcgs of Eltroxin. You may say that, well, it all converts to T3, T2,

T1, and so on, so what is the difference. My opinion is that different

peoples' bodies in separate PARTS of their bodies have different higher

rated, faster requirements for different amts of all these hormones, so it's

not going to be the same from person to person. Where someone else's

(nervous system or whatever comparing part) body can take on a powerful fast

jolt of T3, another person's body may handle that better by very gradually

using it. I was 2 grains of Armour for between 4 and 5 months, but it was

within the 5th month that the problem started, with a heart rate of 140-160,

sweats, feeling like I was going to catch on fire, etc....I just knew that I

was going hyper, escpecially because of these two main symptoms, so I

stopped all thyroid hormone for about 4 to 7 days or so (hard for me to

remember, and I didn't keep a diary on it either), then picked back up on, I

believe 100 mcgs Eltroxin and tiny 15 mgs of Armour. I am taking the above

amt now, for the last several months (125 mcgs T4 plus 30 mgs Armour). I

took a trip to the ER at one point (I'm thinking about 4 or so months ago,

maybe less?), from slight discomfort in the center of the chest that just

wouldn't go away, just to be on the safe side. EKGs showed a lot of

palpitations, but those didn't start until I got into the ambulance and was

very very fearful. They did go on for a very short while at the hospital

when I was hooked up to all that stuff, though. When the dummy er doc found

out I was taking Armour, he immediately started griping me out, saying that

I was hyper (I think that was on the 100 mcgs T4 plus 30 mgs Armour). I

kept asking him for a copy of my tests, interrupting him the whole time he

was saying this and doing all this griping. He finally " yelled " that all

right, he'd get a copy. Guess what he ran? TSH (yes it was low), but the

other one was the T3 Uptake, which was smack dab in the middle of a normal

range. Actually both of them were very useless tests, so they really didn't

show anything at all, and I was dismissed and sent home with no further

testing at all. I think one of those older nurses recognizes hypo versus

hyper, and she did sort of roll her eyes at him and made this face and shook

her head. I guarantee you that I still look so obviously hypo, it's

pitiful. Hashi's has all these faces that it wears, though. Oh, and, I do

not believe in that thing of going ahead and taking 5 to 10 grains of

thyroid, unless you are very very sure that your cells have been damaged

(testing for chemical sensitivities, etc..). There are some, however, who

do need that much, but we don't really have much of a way of knowing how

fast the thyroid itself is going to get the signal that we're taking that

much, so a person could still be making some of their own, maybe not much,

to go with these whopping amts. I simply don't believe that that is the

majority of folks, but some yes.

Re: Doctor Appt. results (long)

> - if you don't mind me asking, how much Armour are you taking

> and how much synthetic T4?

>

> Thanks,

> Robin

[Guest guest]

Give your hubby a hug for me, would you, PLEASE!!!

It's so awesome that he's there for you and understands... it gives you that much more incentive to work on the thyroid stuff and get yourself back in the swing of things....

It really really sucks when people put you down for not doing enough, not trying, being a bum.... I bust butt on some days to get done what I should, to do things that I'm asked to do.... but I've learned that I do it in MY time now... and at my pace... if I'm gonna get put down no matter what I do anyway... I might as well do things in a way that is beneficial to me (working on increasing my strength and stamina) and not kill my self to do more than I know is healthy for me and then get yelled at anyway....

'nuff said!

Topper ()

On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 09:03:02 -0500 writes:

Yes, the info was the same point as what I read about Alzheimers. It was interesting, also learned they start checking people for thyroid every so often after a certain age since it hits later in life more commonly and mimics the aging "symptoms." I'm learning so much, my doctor said last night to me on the phone, "You should have been a doctor." That totally made my day. Maybe two days. LOL! I wanted to be a Vet, but I was being a snob about it and only wanted to do it if I could go to Auburn and that didn't happen, my scores weren't high enough to get in, though they were close, but you also have to know people to get in apparently, so it just didn't happen. Then I realized I loved the lab work of being a vet tech instead, and I went that route, and got my license, but I haven't done that in a long time, either, primarily because of my hypo brain fog, now that I know what it is. I would drive myself nuts, having to remember things and I couldn't, started feeling sub-par, stupid even some days, and after a close call with a beloved animal on the operating table (was doing a dental, and forgot to turn down the IV, so I overhydrated thank goodness the other vet tech caught it and got the vet and he gave the dog lasix to saok up the water and the dog ended up fine in the end but that was a wakeup call for me). I quit then, and haven't worked since. Maybe after I get my brain back, I'll be able to work again. That's my goal...and my "light" at the end of my proverbial tunnel. I'm holding out for the day I can think clearly again and feel intelligent again and WORK. I'm so lucky to have such a caring understanding husband who takes care of me and doesn't complain that I don't work, even though he'll never really understand why. I cried one night to him, saying I felt like a loser, like I was mooching off him and that I hated feeling that way. He told me recently that he suspected I was hypothyroid for a long time now, and just kept hoping the docs would figure it out. I picked my jaw up off the floor, and asked him why on earth he didn't just tell me that adn I could have gotten tested! We have great communication on most levels but some things just never get said like that. LOL!

[Guest guest]

Give your hubby a hug for me, would you, PLEASE!!!

It's so awesome that he's there for you and understands... it gives you that much more incentive to work on the thyroid stuff and get yourself back in the swing of things....

It really really sucks when people put you down for not doing enough, not trying, being a bum.... I bust butt on some days to get done what I should, to do things that I'm asked to do.... but I've learned that I do it in MY time now... and at my pace... if I'm gonna get put down no matter what I do anyway... I might as well do things in a way that is beneficial to me (working on increasing my strength and stamina) and not kill my self to do more than I know is healthy for me and then get yelled at anyway....

'nuff said!

Topper ()

On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 09:03:02 -0500 writes:

Yes, the info was the same point as what I read about Alzheimers. It was interesting, also learned they start checking people for thyroid every so often after a certain age since it hits later in life more commonly and mimics the aging "symptoms." I'm learning so much, my doctor said last night to me on the phone, "You should have been a doctor." That totally made my day. Maybe two days. LOL! I wanted to be a Vet, but I was being a snob about it and only wanted to do it if I could go to Auburn and that didn't happen, my scores weren't high enough to get in, though they were close, but you also have to know people to get in apparently, so it just didn't happen. Then I realized I loved the lab work of being a vet tech instead, and I went that route, and got my license, but I haven't done that in a long time, either, primarily because of my hypo brain fog, now that I know what it is. I would drive myself nuts, having to remember things and I couldn't, started feeling sub-par, stupid even some days, and after a close call with a beloved animal on the operating table (was doing a dental, and forgot to turn down the IV, so I overhydrated thank goodness the other vet tech caught it and got the vet and he gave the dog lasix to saok up the water and the dog ended up fine in the end but that was a wakeup call for me). I quit then, and haven't worked since. Maybe after I get my brain back, I'll be able to work again. That's my goal...and my "light" at the end of my proverbial tunnel. I'm holding out for the day I can think clearly again and feel intelligent again and WORK. I'm so lucky to have such a caring understanding husband who takes care of me and doesn't complain that I don't work, even though he'll never really understand why. I cried one night to him, saying I felt like a loser, like I was mooching off him and that I hated feeling that way. He told me recently that he suspected I was hypothyroid for a long time now, and just kept hoping the docs would figure it out. I picked my jaw up off the floor, and asked him why on earth he didn't just tell me that adn I could have gotten tested! We have great communication on most levels but some things just never get said like that. LOL!

[Guest guest]

Give your hubby a hug for me, would you, PLEASE!!!

It's so awesome that he's there for you and understands... it gives you that much more incentive to work on the thyroid stuff and get yourself back in the swing of things....

It really really sucks when people put you down for not doing enough, not trying, being a bum.... I bust butt on some days to get done what I should, to do things that I'm asked to do.... but I've learned that I do it in MY time now... and at my pace... if I'm gonna get put down no matter what I do anyway... I might as well do things in a way that is beneficial to me (working on increasing my strength and stamina) and not kill my self to do more than I know is healthy for me and then get yelled at anyway....

'nuff said!

Topper ()

On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 09:03:02 -0500 writes:

Yes, the info was the same point as what I read about Alzheimers. It was interesting, also learned they start checking people for thyroid every so often after a certain age since it hits later in life more commonly and mimics the aging "symptoms." I'm learning so much, my doctor said last night to me on the phone, "You should have been a doctor." That totally made my day. Maybe two days. LOL! I wanted to be a Vet, but I was being a snob about it and only wanted to do it if I could go to Auburn and that didn't happen, my scores weren't high enough to get in, though they were close, but you also have to know people to get in apparently, so it just didn't happen. Then I realized I loved the lab work of being a vet tech instead, and I went that route, and got my license, but I haven't done that in a long time, either, primarily because of my hypo brain fog, now that I know what it is. I would drive myself nuts, having to remember things and I couldn't, started feeling sub-par, stupid even some days, and after a close call with a beloved animal on the operating table (was doing a dental, and forgot to turn down the IV, so I overhydrated thank goodness the other vet tech caught it and got the vet and he gave the dog lasix to saok up the water and the dog ended up fine in the end but that was a wakeup call for me). I quit then, and haven't worked since. Maybe after I get my brain back, I'll be able to work again. That's my goal...and my "light" at the end of my proverbial tunnel. I'm holding out for the day I can think clearly again and feel intelligent again and WORK. I'm so lucky to have such a caring understanding husband who takes care of me and doesn't complain that I don't work, even though he'll never really understand why. I cried one night to him, saying I felt like a loser, like I was mooching off him and that I hated feeling that way. He told me recently that he suspected I was hypothyroid for a long time now, and just kept hoping the docs would figure it out. I picked my jaw up off the floor, and asked him why on earth he didn't just tell me that adn I could have gotten tested! We have great communication on most levels but some things just never get said like that. LOL!