Re: Doctor Appt. results (long)

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OK. all comments welcomed. I could not believe my cholesterol

numbers!

How have you been feeling symptom wise? High cholesterol numbers

usually coinside with hypo..

I am having a brain fog moment but if I remember correctly were you

not hyper before and doing the swing back and forth?

If that is the case hyper will leave your TSH suppressed for quite

sometime..you need the Free's tested to figure out exactly what is

going on but those T4 and T3 numbers you have indicate hypo..

Maybe you could use the online lab that a few others have used and get

a complete thyroid panel done that includes free's and includes

antibody testing?

Sorry not much help with out better testing and also on how you are

feeling..

Kats3boys

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Thanks for responing. Symptons wise, I feel fine. I am hypo. I was surprised at the numbers because I try to watch what I eat carefully. It has to be because I'm hypo. I hope. I haven't had any hyper symptoms. I need the info on the online labs. I was disappointed at the tests that were run. I guess, at least this doc did prescribe armour. I'll see what happends with this. Hopefully someone on the group will e-mail me the online lab info and I can try to get the proper tests run. You havbe been more help than you know. Thank you. As far as how I am feeling, I feel OK at the moment.

F.kats3boys wrote:

OK. all comments welcomed. I could not believe my cholesterol numbers!How have you been feeling symptom wise? High cholesterol numbers usually coinside with hypo..I am having a brain fog moment but if I remember correctly were you not hyper before and doing the swing back and forth?If that is the case hyper will leave your TSH suppressed for quite sometime..you need the Free's tested to figure out exactly what is going on but those T4 and T3 numbers you have indicate hypo..Maybe you could use the online lab that a few others have used and get a complete thyroid panel done that includes free's and includes antibody testing?Sorry not much help with out better testing and also on how you are feeling..Kats3boys

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How long have you been on your current dose ?

Topper ()

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 13:04:25 -0500 writes:

You're welcome. Doesn't it feel great to know you're not alone in how you feel? It might not help how you physically feel, but on some very important level, it does help.

I'm having a very blah day. I swear, I think I'm a good candidate for T3. I can't remember things, have a hard time focusing, sometimes I'm even afraid to be driving because I start feeling "off" somehow...like I'm disoriented or daydreaming or something. It's very hard to explain, but I was reading about it and people who have that disconnected feeling often respond well to T3 (Cytomel, also in Armour Thyroid). I finally heard from one of the nurses on my doctor's staff, and she is going to relay the message that I want an increase in my Synthroid to the doctor, but I'd really rather talk directly to the doc myself, and really explain how I feel. I hate the feeling that people don't understand, or just think we're lazy, but I just have to realize that this is one of those things you don't understand until you go through it yourself.

Maybe I'll go take a nap. That always helps, but these afternoon 2-hour naps are really getting old!

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Interesting..... Good that he's not stuck on TSH.... Not sure about his math philosophy though....

Your Total Ts are both way too low.. that would mean that the Frees are even lower, since total is the total of Frees and Reverse.... How are you feeling with these levels?

Cholesterol and Triglicerides both tend to run high when thyroid levels are low... I can't really comment of the other stuff... not that familiar with it all....

Topper ()

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 13:49:20 -0800 (PST) Ward writes:

These are the resusts from my October 11 appt. with the new doctor before I started taking armour:

t4 0.93 UG/DL (4.50 -12.00)

T-UPTAKE 0.86 (0.72 - 1.24

t3 0.89 NG/ML (0.80 - 2.00)

TSH 0.03 IU/ML (0.47 - 5.01)

I talked with the doctor about ft3 and ft4 and staterd that he gets better results using some type of index invlving the results of the t3 and the TSH (has anyone heard of this?) Also I made him aware of the lower rages and he staterd that he heard about them and they were not yet official. He stated that he really wanted my number (TSH) to be around 0.1. I then asked him if the had a probloem with my numbers below so low (surpressed) he stated no because that does not tell him how much thryoid is in my blood. He uses other measurements for that. I took more bloodwork today and he wants me to stay on the 2 grains for the next three weeks and if there are any problems with the test he will call me, especially if he needs to raise the dose.

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I've been on 75mcg since...holdon, gotta look at the calendar....September 15th. My TSH was originally 22.16 and was 3.08 Thursday when they checked, and I told the nurse today when they finally called me back, I explained that I had read several books on thyroid disease since I found out I was hypo and that every one of them said people tend to do best between .5 and 2.0 and that I would like to try to reduce my TSH further, and the nurse is relaying the info/request to the doctor, whom I should hear back from by Friday morning and if not I'll call her back again. Grr. Getting frustrating.

How long have you been on your current dose ?

Topper ()

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 13:04:25 -0500 writes:

You're welcome. Doesn't it feel great to know you're not alone in how you feel? It might not help how you physically feel, but on some very important level, it does help.

I'm having a very blah day. I swear, I think I'm a good candidate for T3. I can't remember things, have a hard time focusing, sometimes I'm even afraid to be driving because I start feeling " off " somehow...like I'm disoriented or daydreaming or something. It's very hard to explain, but I was reading about it and people who have that disconnected feeling often respond well to T3 (Cytomel, also in Armour Thyroid). I finally heard from one of the nurses on my doctor's staff, and she is going to relay the message that I want an increase in my Synthroid to the doctor, but I'd really rather talk directly to the doc myself, and really explain how I feel. I hate the feeling that people don't understand, or just think we're lazy, but I just have to realize that this is one of those things you don't understand until you go through it yourself.

Maybe I'll go take a nap. That always helps, but these afternoon 2-hour naps are really getting old!

[Guest guest]

I've been on 75mcg since...holdon, gotta look at the calendar....September 15th. My TSH was originally 22.16 and was 3.08 Thursday when they checked, and I told the nurse today when they finally called me back, I explained that I had read several books on thyroid disease since I found out I was hypo and that every one of them said people tend to do best between .5 and 2.0 and that I would like to try to reduce my TSH further, and the nurse is relaying the info/request to the doctor, whom I should hear back from by Friday morning and if not I'll call her back again. Grr. Getting frustrating.

How long have you been on your current dose ?

Topper ()

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 13:04:25 -0500 writes:

You're welcome. Doesn't it feel great to know you're not alone in how you feel? It might not help how you physically feel, but on some very important level, it does help.

I'm having a very blah day. I swear, I think I'm a good candidate for T3. I can't remember things, have a hard time focusing, sometimes I'm even afraid to be driving because I start feeling " off " somehow...like I'm disoriented or daydreaming or something. It's very hard to explain, but I was reading about it and people who have that disconnected feeling often respond well to T3 (Cytomel, also in Armour Thyroid). I finally heard from one of the nurses on my doctor's staff, and she is going to relay the message that I want an increase in my Synthroid to the doctor, but I'd really rather talk directly to the doc myself, and really explain how I feel. I hate the feeling that people don't understand, or just think we're lazy, but I just have to realize that this is one of those things you don't understand until you go through it yourself.

Maybe I'll go take a nap. That always helps, but these afternoon 2-hour naps are really getting old!

[Guest guest]

How long should I give the Synthroid to see if it's going to work before actually trying something else? Am I just being impatient? It just seems that I haven't felt well the whole time I've been on Synthroid, actually feel worse than I was before, though I realize I need to be on something because my TSH tests are showing results, but maybe I need to give it more time? I just don't know what to do and I want to feel better like, yesterday...lol. I'm completely fascinated with the idea of Armour (since it's natural instead of synthetic) or at least, the addition of T3 because of everything I've read in terms of symptoms that were relieved. I really want my T3 checked, darnit. It's crazy to have to wait a week to hear back from my doc and I just have a feeling that since I never actually talked to her, she's not going to fully understand my angle, and I'm going to get a flat-NO to the increased dose. I have no patience these days and before...I was the most patient person on earth it seemed, and I was the one telling everyone else to calm down and just wait quietly. I guess I'm just feeling overwhelmed because I felt so bad for so long when I had mono this is like reliving that, only in a different way, but similar, because there's no energy, I don't feel good, and I feel like I'm struggling to get where I need to be. It's even more frustrating because I feel like I could have it all done in one day if someone would just do it: Test my free's, get the results (my lab gets them back the same day then the docs can review them and give me the info the next day or the day after if they're busy) and then I could KNOW and either be put on T3 or switched to Armour, or know that my body IS converting and that I just need to be patient. I'm going to go nuts waiting! LOL! Can you see me tapping my toes and twiddling my fingers and sighing in exasperation???? I can't even imagine what some of you (you included) have gone through for so many years. I think I would go insane. Ok I'm done venting now, didn't realize I need to that badly!

How long have you been on your current dose ?

Topper ()

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 13:04:25 -0500 writes:

You're welcome. Doesn't it feel great to know you're not alone in how you feel? It might not help how you physically feel, but on some very important level, it does help.

I'm having a very blah day. I swear, I think I'm a good candidate for T3. I can't remember things, have a hard time focusing, sometimes I'm even afraid to be driving because I start feeling " off " somehow...like I'm disoriented or daydreaming or something. It's very hard to explain, but I was reading about it and people who have that disconnected feeling often respond well to T3 (Cytomel, also in Armour Thyroid). I finally heard from one of the nurses on my doctor's staff, and she is going to relay the message that I want an increase in my Synthroid to the doctor, but I'd really rather talk directly to the doc myself, and really explain how I feel. I hate the feeling that people don't understand, or just think we're lazy, but I just have to realize that this is one of those things you don't understand until you go through it yourself.

Maybe I'll go take a nap. That always helps, but these afternoon 2-hour naps are really getting old!

[Guest guest]

How long should I give the Synthroid to see if it's going to work before actually trying something else? Am I just being impatient? It just seems that I haven't felt well the whole time I've been on Synthroid, actually feel worse than I was before, though I realize I need to be on something because my TSH tests are showing results, but maybe I need to give it more time? I just don't know what to do and I want to feel better like, yesterday...lol. I'm completely fascinated with the idea of Armour (since it's natural instead of synthetic) or at least, the addition of T3 because of everything I've read in terms of symptoms that were relieved. I really want my T3 checked, darnit. It's crazy to have to wait a week to hear back from my doc and I just have a feeling that since I never actually talked to her, she's not going to fully understand my angle, and I'm going to get a flat-NO to the increased dose. I have no patience these days and before...I was the most patient person on earth it seemed, and I was the one telling everyone else to calm down and just wait quietly. I guess I'm just feeling overwhelmed because I felt so bad for so long when I had mono this is like reliving that, only in a different way, but similar, because there's no energy, I don't feel good, and I feel like I'm struggling to get where I need to be. It's even more frustrating because I feel like I could have it all done in one day if someone would just do it: Test my free's, get the results (my lab gets them back the same day then the docs can review them and give me the info the next day or the day after if they're busy) and then I could KNOW and either be put on T3 or switched to Armour, or know that my body IS converting and that I just need to be patient. I'm going to go nuts waiting! LOL! Can you see me tapping my toes and twiddling my fingers and sighing in exasperation???? I can't even imagine what some of you (you included) have gone through for so many years. I think I would go insane. Ok I'm done venting now, didn't realize I need to that badly!

How long have you been on your current dose ?

Topper ()

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 13:04:25 -0500 writes:

You're welcome. Doesn't it feel great to know you're not alone in how you feel? It might not help how you physically feel, but on some very important level, it does help.

I'm having a very blah day. I swear, I think I'm a good candidate for T3. I can't remember things, have a hard time focusing, sometimes I'm even afraid to be driving because I start feeling " off " somehow...like I'm disoriented or daydreaming or something. It's very hard to explain, but I was reading about it and people who have that disconnected feeling often respond well to T3 (Cytomel, also in Armour Thyroid). I finally heard from one of the nurses on my doctor's staff, and she is going to relay the message that I want an increase in my Synthroid to the doctor, but I'd really rather talk directly to the doc myself, and really explain how I feel. I hate the feeling that people don't understand, or just think we're lazy, but I just have to realize that this is one of those things you don't understand until you go through it yourself.

Maybe I'll go take a nap. That always helps, but these afternoon 2-hour naps are really getting old!

[Guest guest]

How long should I give the Synthroid to see if it's going to work before actually trying something else? Am I just being impatient? It just seems that I haven't felt well the whole time I've been on Synthroid, actually feel worse than I was before, though I realize I need to be on something because my TSH tests are showing results, but maybe I need to give it more time? I just don't know what to do and I want to feel better like, yesterday...lol. I'm completely fascinated with the idea of Armour (since it's natural instead of synthetic) or at least, the addition of T3 because of everything I've read in terms of symptoms that were relieved. I really want my T3 checked, darnit. It's crazy to have to wait a week to hear back from my doc and I just have a feeling that since I never actually talked to her, she's not going to fully understand my angle, and I'm going to get a flat-NO to the increased dose. I have no patience these days and before...I was the most patient person on earth it seemed, and I was the one telling everyone else to calm down and just wait quietly. I guess I'm just feeling overwhelmed because I felt so bad for so long when I had mono this is like reliving that, only in a different way, but similar, because there's no energy, I don't feel good, and I feel like I'm struggling to get where I need to be. It's even more frustrating because I feel like I could have it all done in one day if someone would just do it: Test my free's, get the results (my lab gets them back the same day then the docs can review them and give me the info the next day or the day after if they're busy) and then I could KNOW and either be put on T3 or switched to Armour, or know that my body IS converting and that I just need to be patient. I'm going to go nuts waiting! LOL! Can you see me tapping my toes and twiddling my fingers and sighing in exasperation???? I can't even imagine what some of you (you included) have gone through for so many years. I think I would go insane. Ok I'm done venting now, didn't realize I need to that badly!

How long have you been on your current dose ?

Topper ()

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 13:04:25 -0500 writes:

You're welcome. Doesn't it feel great to know you're not alone in how you feel? It might not help how you physically feel, but on some very important level, it does help.

I'm having a very blah day. I swear, I think I'm a good candidate for T3. I can't remember things, have a hard time focusing, sometimes I'm even afraid to be driving because I start feeling " off " somehow...like I'm disoriented or daydreaming or something. It's very hard to explain, but I was reading about it and people who have that disconnected feeling often respond well to T3 (Cytomel, also in Armour Thyroid). I finally heard from one of the nurses on my doctor's staff, and she is going to relay the message that I want an increase in my Synthroid to the doctor, but I'd really rather talk directly to the doc myself, and really explain how I feel. I hate the feeling that people don't understand, or just think we're lazy, but I just have to realize that this is one of those things you don't understand until you go through it yourself.

Maybe I'll go take a nap. That always helps, but these afternoon 2-hour naps are really getting old!

[Guest guest]

Hi Topper, thanks for your comments. Basically I feel Ok right now. I plan to order the frees soon to see what the levels are, then I'll post them for the group to comment on.

F.topper2@... wrote:

Interesting..... Good that he's not stuck on TSH.... Not sure about his math philosophy though....

Your Total Ts are both way too low.. that would mean that the Frees are even lower, since total is the total of Frees and Reverse.... How are you feeling with these levels?

Cholesterol and Triglicerides both tend to run high when thyroid levels are low... I can't really comment of the other stuff... not that familiar with it all....

Topper ()

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 13:49:20 -0800 (PST) Ward writes:

These are the resusts from my October 11 appt. with the new doctor before I started taking armour:

t4 0.93 UG/DL (4.50 -12.00)

T-UPTAKE 0.86 (0.72 - 1.24

t3 0.89 NG/ML (0.80 - 2.00)

TSH 0.03 IU/ML (0.47 - 5.01)

I talked with the doctor about ft3 and ft4 and staterd that he gets better results using some type of index invlving the results of the t3 and the TSH (has anyone heard of this?) Also I made him aware of the lower rages and he staterd that he heard about them and they were not yet official. He stated that he really wanted my number (TSH) to be around 0.1. I then asked him if the had a probloem with my numbers below so low (surpressed) he stated no because that does not tell him how much thryoid is in my blood. He uses other measurements for that. I took more bloodwork today and he wants me to stay on the 2 grains for the next three weeks and if there are any problems with the test he will call me, especially if he needs to raise the dose.

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Re: Re: Doctor Appt. results (long)

How long should I give the Synthroid to see if it's going to work before actually trying something else? Am I just being impatient? It just seems that I haven't felt well the whole time I've been on Synthroid, actually feel worse than I was before, though I realize I need to be on something because my TSH tests are showing results, but maybe I need to give it more time? I just don't know what to do and I want to feel better like, yesterday...lol. I'm completely fascinated with the idea of Armour (since it's natural instead of synthetic) or at least, the addition of T3 because of everything I've read in terms of symptoms that were relieved. I really want my T3 checked, darnit. It's crazy to have to wait a week to hear back from my doc and I just have a feeling that since I never actually talked to her, she's not going to fully understand my angle, and I'm going to get a flat-NO to the increased dose. I have no patience these days and before...I was the most patient person on earth it seemed, and I was the one telling everyone else to calm down and just wait quietly. I guess I'm just feeling overwhelmed because I felt so bad for so long when I had mono this is like reliving that, only in a different way, but similar, because there's no energy, I don't feel good, and I feel like I'm struggling to get where I need to be. It's even more frustrating because I feel like I could have it all done in one day if someone would just do it: Test my free's, get the results (my lab gets them back the same day then the docs can review them and give me the info the next day or the day after if they're busy) and then I could KNOW and either be put on T3 or switched to Armour, or know that my body IS converting and that I just need to be patient. I'm going to go nuts waiting! LOL! Can you see me tapping my toes and twiddling my fingers and sighing in exasperation???? I can't even imagine what some of you (you included) have gone through for so many years. I think I would go insane. Ok I'm done venting now, didn't realize I need to that badly!

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Re: Re: Doctor Appt. results (long)

How long should I give the Synthroid to see if it's going to work before actually trying something else? Am I just being impatient? It just seems that I haven't felt well the whole time I've been on Synthroid, actually feel worse than I was before, though I realize I need to be on something because my TSH tests are showing results, but maybe I need to give it more time? I just don't know what to do and I want to feel better like, yesterday...lol. I'm completely fascinated with the idea of Armour (since it's natural instead of synthetic) or at least, the addition of T3 because of everything I've read in terms of symptoms that were relieved. I really want my T3 checked, darnit. It's crazy to have to wait a week to hear back from my doc and I just have a feeling that since I never actually talked to her, she's not going to fully understand my angle, and I'm going to get a flat-NO to the increased dose. I have no patience these days and before...I was the most patient person on earth it seemed, and I was the one telling everyone else to calm down and just wait quietly. I guess I'm just feeling overwhelmed because I felt so bad for so long when I had mono this is like reliving that, only in a different way, but similar, because there's no energy, I don't feel good, and I feel like I'm struggling to get where I need to be. It's even more frustrating because I feel like I could have it all done in one day if someone would just do it: Test my free's, get the results (my lab gets them back the same day then the docs can review them and give me the info the next day or the day after if they're busy) and then I could KNOW and either be put on T3 or switched to Armour, or know that my body IS converting and that I just need to be patient. I'm going to go nuts waiting! LOL! Can you see me tapping my toes and twiddling my fingers and sighing in exasperation???? I can't even imagine what some of you (you included) have gone through for so many years. I think I would go insane. Ok I'm done venting now, didn't realize I need to that badly!

[Guest guest]

Definitely call her back if they don't call you.... you need to stay on top of things, I think one of the many reasons that hypos are so poorly cared for and ignored is that we are usually so quiet and 'one of the sheep in the flock' not making waves, not standing ground..... being hypo, unless horribly severe, won't kill you, just make you wish you were dead, so they don't have to keep on top of things, cuz it's not gonna kill you.... why should they care about quality of life, we're so meek and quiet we don't complain, as a rule, so to them... it's just ignore them, they'll forget and go grab some chocolates to eat and go take a nap.

arrgghhhhh I think I woke on the wrong side of the bed this morning... it's a doc bashing day!!! hehehehe

Topper ()

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 17:02:44 -0500 writes:

I've been on 75mcg since...holdon, gotta look at the calendar....September 15th. My TSH was originally 22.16 and was 3.08 Thursday when they checked, and I told the nurse today when they finally called me back, I explained that I had read several books on thyroid disease since I found out I was hypo and that every one of them said people tend to do best between .5 and 2.0 and that I would like to try to reduce my TSH further, and the nurse is relaying the info/request to the doctor, whom I should hear back from by Friday morning and if not I'll call her back again. Grr. Getting frustrating.

[Guest guest]

Definitely call her back if they don't call you.... you need to stay on top of things, I think one of the many reasons that hypos are so poorly cared for and ignored is that we are usually so quiet and 'one of the sheep in the flock' not making waves, not standing ground..... being hypo, unless horribly severe, won't kill you, just make you wish you were dead, so they don't have to keep on top of things, cuz it's not gonna kill you.... why should they care about quality of life, we're so meek and quiet we don't complain, as a rule, so to them... it's just ignore them, they'll forget and go grab some chocolates to eat and go take a nap.

arrgghhhhh I think I woke on the wrong side of the bed this morning... it's a doc bashing day!!! hehehehe

Topper ()

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 17:02:44 -0500 writes:

I've been on 75mcg since...holdon, gotta look at the calendar....September 15th. My TSH was originally 22.16 and was 3.08 Thursday when they checked, and I told the nurse today when they finally called me back, I explained that I had read several books on thyroid disease since I found out I was hypo and that every one of them said people tend to do best between .5 and 2.0 and that I would like to try to reduce my TSH further, and the nurse is relaying the info/request to the doctor, whom I should hear back from by Friday morning and if not I'll call her back again. Grr. Getting frustrating.

[Guest guest]

Definitely call her back if they don't call you.... you need to stay on top of things, I think one of the many reasons that hypos are so poorly cared for and ignored is that we are usually so quiet and 'one of the sheep in the flock' not making waves, not standing ground..... being hypo, unless horribly severe, won't kill you, just make you wish you were dead, so they don't have to keep on top of things, cuz it's not gonna kill you.... why should they care about quality of life, we're so meek and quiet we don't complain, as a rule, so to them... it's just ignore them, they'll forget and go grab some chocolates to eat and go take a nap.

arrgghhhhh I think I woke on the wrong side of the bed this morning... it's a doc bashing day!!! hehehehe

Topper ()

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 17:02:44 -0500 writes:

I've been on 75mcg since...holdon, gotta look at the calendar....September 15th. My TSH was originally 22.16 and was 3.08 Thursday when they checked, and I told the nurse today when they finally called me back, I explained that I had read several books on thyroid disease since I found out I was hypo and that every one of them said people tend to do best between .5 and 2.0 and that I would like to try to reduce my TSH further, and the nurse is relaying the info/request to the doctor, whom I should hear back from by Friday morning and if not I'll call her back again. Grr. Getting frustrating.

[Guest guest]

I've been reading some stuff that some of the folks though to have Alzheimers are actually chronic long term hypo.... But in some cases, if the 'long term' is long enough the damage becomes permanent.

Speaking of long term damage and permanent.... I used to lift weights before all this hypo mess.... and then after the RAI and being underdosed and getting soooo hypo I lost most of my strength.. to the point where just moving a bag of groceries was hard to do for more than a few steps....

I was very happy the first time I moved a 25 pound sack of flour or rice, and did more happy dancing the first time I was able to haul my groceries in from the car and get everything put away before stopping to sit and rest...

Well yesterday the folks made a stock up run to Sam's and picked up my stuff too.... one of my items was a 50 pound sack of rice. I not only got it up on my shoulder.... but got called back to the kitchen to get the thing dated and priced (we put dates and prices on bulk items like that so that we know how long it took to use it up and what the last price was). So I did a U turn and back to the kitchen to stand there while Ruth labeled the bag and then brought it back with my stuff (I have my 'pantry' in my bedroom). It wasn't until I put the sack down and it registered that it didn't fit in the same spot that I kept the 25 pounder in that I'd done what I did!!!

Now that's not as good as what I used to do.... When I was driving truck I could put 3 50 pound sacks of dog food on my shoulder and climb a flight of stairs..... but I'll setting for taking 50 pounds of rice 1 1/2 times the length of the house!!!

Topper ()

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 17:09:22 -0500 writes:

Peachy,

I'm very glad to hear that you're feeling better! I wouldn't have known about the T3 either, if not for this group and the about.com thyroid web site. It's amazing what our doctors don't tell us. Scary, actually. Makes me wonder if there were other things I've had problems with that they didn't treat properly or optimally! I would say that was quite the expensive brain fog, there!! LOL! I'm just glad it was only in the driveway and not on the road. *hugs* I try to keep myself extra alert when driving, and especially try to do most of my driving earlier in the day, before 1pm, because after 1 is when this stuff seems to hit me harder with the being out of it and fatigue and major brain fog, though I tend to have that "I cant think of the word I need, or the name, or the whatever" problem all the time. I've had that for a long time, actually...years even, and I was always afraid in the back of my mind in those deep dark places you never let anyone know about that I was for some reason experiencing early Ahlzimers (no idea how to spell that, too lazy to look it up). In a book I'm reading now (it's in another room but if you want the name I'll get it for you) it says there are connections between that and thyroid problems, as well as tons of other things, and I just wonder what the T3 levels are in people with Ahlzimers. Anyway, random thought.

[Guest guest]

I've been reading some stuff that some of the folks though to have Alzheimers are actually chronic long term hypo.... But in some cases, if the 'long term' is long enough the damage becomes permanent.

Speaking of long term damage and permanent.... I used to lift weights before all this hypo mess.... and then after the RAI and being underdosed and getting soooo hypo I lost most of my strength.. to the point where just moving a bag of groceries was hard to do for more than a few steps....

I was very happy the first time I moved a 25 pound sack of flour or rice, and did more happy dancing the first time I was able to haul my groceries in from the car and get everything put away before stopping to sit and rest...

Well yesterday the folks made a stock up run to Sam's and picked up my stuff too.... one of my items was a 50 pound sack of rice. I not only got it up on my shoulder.... but got called back to the kitchen to get the thing dated and priced (we put dates and prices on bulk items like that so that we know how long it took to use it up and what the last price was). So I did a U turn and back to the kitchen to stand there while Ruth labeled the bag and then brought it back with my stuff (I have my 'pantry' in my bedroom). It wasn't until I put the sack down and it registered that it didn't fit in the same spot that I kept the 25 pounder in that I'd done what I did!!!

Now that's not as good as what I used to do.... When I was driving truck I could put 3 50 pound sacks of dog food on my shoulder and climb a flight of stairs..... but I'll setting for taking 50 pounds of rice 1 1/2 times the length of the house!!!

Topper ()

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 17:09:22 -0500 writes:

Peachy,

I'm very glad to hear that you're feeling better! I wouldn't have known about the T3 either, if not for this group and the about.com thyroid web site. It's amazing what our doctors don't tell us. Scary, actually. Makes me wonder if there were other things I've had problems with that they didn't treat properly or optimally! I would say that was quite the expensive brain fog, there!! LOL! I'm just glad it was only in the driveway and not on the road. *hugs* I try to keep myself extra alert when driving, and especially try to do most of my driving earlier in the day, before 1pm, because after 1 is when this stuff seems to hit me harder with the being out of it and fatigue and major brain fog, though I tend to have that "I cant think of the word I need, or the name, or the whatever" problem all the time. I've had that for a long time, actually...years even, and I was always afraid in the back of my mind in those deep dark places you never let anyone know about that I was for some reason experiencing early Ahlzimers (no idea how to spell that, too lazy to look it up). In a book I'm reading now (it's in another room but if you want the name I'll get it for you) it says there are connections between that and thyroid problems, as well as tons of other things, and I just wonder what the T3 levels are in people with Ahlzimers. Anyway, random thought.

[Guest guest]

I've been reading some stuff that some of the folks though to have Alzheimers are actually chronic long term hypo.... But in some cases, if the 'long term' is long enough the damage becomes permanent.

Speaking of long term damage and permanent.... I used to lift weights before all this hypo mess.... and then after the RAI and being underdosed and getting soooo hypo I lost most of my strength.. to the point where just moving a bag of groceries was hard to do for more than a few steps....

I was very happy the first time I moved a 25 pound sack of flour or rice, and did more happy dancing the first time I was able to haul my groceries in from the car and get everything put away before stopping to sit and rest...

Well yesterday the folks made a stock up run to Sam's and picked up my stuff too.... one of my items was a 50 pound sack of rice. I not only got it up on my shoulder.... but got called back to the kitchen to get the thing dated and priced (we put dates and prices on bulk items like that so that we know how long it took to use it up and what the last price was). So I did a U turn and back to the kitchen to stand there while Ruth labeled the bag and then brought it back with my stuff (I have my 'pantry' in my bedroom). It wasn't until I put the sack down and it registered that it didn't fit in the same spot that I kept the 25 pounder in that I'd done what I did!!!

Now that's not as good as what I used to do.... When I was driving truck I could put 3 50 pound sacks of dog food on my shoulder and climb a flight of stairs..... but I'll setting for taking 50 pounds of rice 1 1/2 times the length of the house!!!

Topper ()

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 17:09:22 -0500 writes:

Peachy,

I'm very glad to hear that you're feeling better! I wouldn't have known about the T3 either, if not for this group and the about.com thyroid web site. It's amazing what our doctors don't tell us. Scary, actually. Makes me wonder if there were other things I've had problems with that they didn't treat properly or optimally! I would say that was quite the expensive brain fog, there!! LOL! I'm just glad it was only in the driveway and not on the road. *hugs* I try to keep myself extra alert when driving, and especially try to do most of my driving earlier in the day, before 1pm, because after 1 is when this stuff seems to hit me harder with the being out of it and fatigue and major brain fog, though I tend to have that "I cant think of the word I need, or the name, or the whatever" problem all the time. I've had that for a long time, actually...years even, and I was always afraid in the back of my mind in those deep dark places you never let anyone know about that I was for some reason experiencing early Ahlzimers (no idea how to spell that, too lazy to look it up). In a book I'm reading now (it's in another room but if you want the name I'll get it for you) it says there are connections between that and thyroid problems, as well as tons of other things, and I just wonder what the T3 levels are in people with Ahlzimers. Anyway, random thought.

[Guest guest]

Okay.. I'll be interested to see how it goes....

Topper ()

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 18:22:51 -0800 (PST) Ward writes:

Hi Topper, thanks for your comments. Basically I feel Ok right now. I plan to order the frees soon to see what the levels are, then I'll post them for the group to comment on.

F.

[Guest guest]

Okay.. I'll be interested to see how it goes....

Topper ()

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 18:22:51 -0800 (PST) Ward writes:

Hi Topper, thanks for your comments. Basically I feel Ok right now. I plan to order the frees soon to see what the levels are, then I'll post them for the group to comment on.

F.

[Guest guest]

Okay.. I'll be interested to see how it goes....

Topper ()

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 18:22:51 -0800 (PST) Ward writes:

Hi Topper, thanks for your comments. Basically I feel Ok right now. I plan to order the frees soon to see what the levels are, then I'll post them for the group to comment on.

F.

[Guest guest]

I had my labs done last February through Health Check... I highly recommend them... I found a clinic relatively close to me.. they had everything ready when I got there.. the tech was very considerate of my needle phobia and I got my results online in just two days and the hard copies in the mail in just one week.

Topper ()

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 08:17:15 -0500 writes:

Online Blood Tests:

Go to the Links page for this group (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Thyroid_Support_Group/links) and click the link that says Where to Find Clinics for Blood Screenings. It's called HealthCheck USA (or you can go to their we page directly, just thought you might want to peruse the other links and files posted here, there are a lot and they're a great reference source)...anyway, Health Check USA: ( http://healthcheckusa.com/), click Order a Test, then click Thyroid Screenings, and you'll see a list there of tests. You have to find a local clinic to draw your blood (hover over Order a Test link at the top of the page, and click the link below that appears saying Locations Nationwide, then choose your state and find a clinic closest to you).

I haven't used them, but I'm holding their web site near and dear, in case my doc refuses to test my Free T3/T4 and the antibody test, even though it's going to cost me out of my pocket to do these, at least I can take the results to my doctor afterward and prove myself. I am waiting on my doc to call me back...she has about another hour, then she'll be beyond her 24-48 hour call-back time and I'll have to call again. I deal with this because she's a good doc so far and the only one willing to deal with my zillions of questions about thyroid. She'll prove herself "worthy" of being my doc IF she increases my Synthroid dose to get me closer to the 0.5-2.0 range (I'm 3.08 as of Thursday and that's not doing it for me, but I tried taking and extra 1/4 pill of my Synthroid and I feel better on that), but still think I need T3, so if she will up my dose to 100mcg Synthroid and consider adding T3 either now or when I get my TSH where I want it, then I'll keep her, otherwise, it's on to another new doc.

My cholesterol was high too, it was 206 and I watch what I eat, and even moreso now, but I have read tons of books in the last 7 weeks since I found out I'm hypo, trying to ingest all the information I can arm myself with for tackling the doctors, and I keep reading all about others who have my symptoms, and it feels good to know I'm not going nuts, and it is good to know that hypo people tend to have higher cholesterol (hoping that will decrease as my hypo gets under control, but haven't read anything saying definitely that it does, anybody else know?)

Good Luck and hang in there!! Persistence wins the battles, one step at a time.

[Guest guest]

I had my labs done last February through Health Check... I highly recommend them... I found a clinic relatively close to me.. they had everything ready when I got there.. the tech was very considerate of my needle phobia and I got my results online in just two days and the hard copies in the mail in just one week.

Topper ()

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 08:17:15 -0500 writes:

Online Blood Tests:

Go to the Links page for this group (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Thyroid_Support_Group/links) and click the link that says Where to Find Clinics for Blood Screenings. It's called HealthCheck USA (or you can go to their we page directly, just thought you might want to peruse the other links and files posted here, there are a lot and they're a great reference source)...anyway, Health Check USA: ( http://healthcheckusa.com/), click Order a Test, then click Thyroid Screenings, and you'll see a list there of tests. You have to find a local clinic to draw your blood (hover over Order a Test link at the top of the page, and click the link below that appears saying Locations Nationwide, then choose your state and find a clinic closest to you).

I haven't used them, but I'm holding their web site near and dear, in case my doc refuses to test my Free T3/T4 and the antibody test, even though it's going to cost me out of my pocket to do these, at least I can take the results to my doctor afterward and prove myself. I am waiting on my doc to call me back...she has about another hour, then she'll be beyond her 24-48 hour call-back time and I'll have to call again. I deal with this because she's a good doc so far and the only one willing to deal with my zillions of questions about thyroid. She'll prove herself "worthy" of being my doc IF she increases my Synthroid dose to get me closer to the 0.5-2.0 range (I'm 3.08 as of Thursday and that's not doing it for me, but I tried taking and extra 1/4 pill of my Synthroid and I feel better on that), but still think I need T3, so if she will up my dose to 100mcg Synthroid and consider adding T3 either now or when I get my TSH where I want it, then I'll keep her, otherwise, it's on to another new doc.

My cholesterol was high too, it was 206 and I watch what I eat, and even moreso now, but I have read tons of books in the last 7 weeks since I found out I'm hypo, trying to ingest all the information I can arm myself with for tackling the doctors, and I keep reading all about others who have my symptoms, and it feels good to know I'm not going nuts, and it is good to know that hypo people tend to have higher cholesterol (hoping that will decrease as my hypo gets under control, but haven't read anything saying definitely that it does, anybody else know?)

Good Luck and hang in there!! Persistence wins the battles, one step at a time.

[Guest guest]

- I started having elevated cholesterol levels for 3 years.

Being treated on Synthroid for a year brought them down 240 to 227 but

the good cholesterol got worse. I was tested 4 months later being

soley on Armour and it went down to 187. I did not change anything.

I had already been taking fish oil for close to a year so I really

don't think it was major factor in the reduction of my cholesterol.

I believe it was the Armour.

Robin V.

hypo people tend to have higher cholesterol (hoping

> that will decrease as my hypo gets under control, but haven't read

> anything saying definitely that it does, anybody else know?)

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[Guest guest]

Well, it sounds like Armour is good stuff overall, then. My doc seems highly impressed with the idea of it, so I have a feeling I'll be trying it as soon as we figure out whether or not it's on my insurance's formulary if she has to do an override, pending of course the T3 test to see if I need the T3 in it. I'm glad it brought your cholesterol down, that's awesome! Just makes me want to go make people run more tests on it and see what exactly it does in the body. LOL!

- I started having elevated cholesterol levels for 3 years. Being treated on Synthroid for a year brought them down 240 to 227 but the good cholesterol got worse. I was tested 4 months later being soley on Armour and it went down to 187. I did not change anything. I had already been taking fish oil for close to a year so I really don't think it was major factor in the reduction of my cholesterol. I believe it was the Armour.Robin V. hypo people tend to have higher cholesterol (hoping> that will decrease as my hypo gets under control, but haven't read> anything saying definitely that it does, anybody else know?) > > > >