Re: Too High Temps, Hot Flashes, and Panic Attacks During Luteal Phase

[Guest guest]

>I also have been weaing HC and wondered if all this is being caused by

adrenaline due to low cortisol? Although I do take my temps every days and they

didn't seem to be fluctuating a lot, just really high.

IT sounds like adrenaline is being produced, the next question is why?

>

>I just did labs today although I can't test the PG and Estrogen for a couple

weeks now. In past few tests, estrogen was fine, maybe low normal at most,

definitely no where near menopause, and PG was at upper end of range, but not

over.

I'm a bloke and am not experienced with female hormones but from the

way you are describing it Estrogen, probably low levels of, sounds a

culprit.

Hopefully Val or one of the other ladies can help more.

Nick

[Guest guest]

Thanks for replying, Nick.

I, too, am not sure why I'm getting adrenaline surges that time of month,

although Val has said that menstruation can cause stress for some people. t to

that extent? Maybe too much on top of having weaned, or having weaned too

quickly. I wonder if my body steals some cortisol to make progesterone?

I also just thought of this -- maybe it's thyroid dump from the extra PG in my

body at that time which *can* convert into cortisol?? I didn't suffer from

increased bowel transit or high heart rate, but I notice my pulse has also

dropped a tad from the past week or so, even on same dose of t3 today, so maybe

it wasn't getting into the cells due to low cortisol. I also was nauseas and had

loss of appetite (or rather, the thought of eating made me feel ill) but put it

down to the anxiety and nerves.

Although it's sounding more and more like I had low cortisol the more I write

this all down, as you said, it could be low estrogen, too! I'm not sure! So

frustrating.

One thing is 100% for sure -- the menstrual cycle affected me greatly and mucked

up what is going on with my t3 and HC.

Hopefully a gal can chime in here. :-) Since Val takes estrogen, she probably

knows a lot about symptoms and all that, and maybe some others here do, too.

Kathleen

>

> >I also have been weaing HC and wondered if all this is being caused by

adrenaline due to low cortisol? Although I do take my temps every days and they

didn't seem to be fluctuating a lot, just really high.

>

> IT sounds like adrenaline is being produced, the next question is why?

> >

> >I just did labs today although I can't test the PG and Estrogen for a couple

weeks now. In past few tests, estrogen was fine, maybe low normal at most,

definitely no where near menopause, and PG was at upper end of range, but not

over.

>

> I'm a bloke and am not experienced with female hormones but from the

> way you are describing it Estrogen, probably low levels of, sounds a

> culprit.

>

> Hopefully Val or one of the other ladies can help more.

>

> Nick

>

[Guest guest]

Hot flashes are a SKIN deep thing and do not affect your core temps.

They are caused bylow estrogne or an adrenaline rush. For overall high

temp I would look to high thyroid, which you have determined to not be

the cause, high progesterone, or infection. You CAN run a fever before

oyu actually feel ill.

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[Guest guest]

Hot flashes are a SKIN deep thing and do not affect your core temps.

They are caused bylow estrogne or an adrenaline rush. For overall high

temp I would look to high thyroid, which you have determined to not be

the cause, high progesterone, or infection. You CAN run a fever before

oyu actually feel ill.

--

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

Do you use progesterone cream? If so I woudl lower it or stop it.

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[Guest guest]

Do you use progesterone cream? If so I woudl lower it or stop it.

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[Guest guest]

Do you use progesterone cream? If so I woudl lower it or stop it.

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[Guest guest]

I had a very similar experience when my progesterone peaked around day 15-19 - high temps, anxiety feeling (heart pounding), couldn't sleep well, etc. I WAS on P cream for a while and had stopped 2 mts ago, but my saliva test showed extrememly high levels.

Progesterone and cortisol fight for the same receptors, and some say that Progesterone converts to cortisol, so the extra cortisol could've pushed more T3 into the cells and we became hyper as a result. That's what I'm assuming, but I'm not so sure about the P converting to cortisol.

My estrogen is a bit low for someone my age (35), and I just had my DHEA-S and testosterone tested, and they both tanked! T3, cortisol, DHEA, and testosterone all work together, according to my doc. And low DHEA (mine's been low for a while and have been supplementing) means less of downstream hormones: testosterone and estrogen. So I upped my DHEA today.

When my P peaked and had high temps, I cut down on T3 and HC, but it didn't help much. The day after my P peaked and dropped (around day 20 for me), I felt soooooo bad that I had to dose T3 and HC in small doses hourly until I felt better. After that it's been pretty good. I'm working on reducing T3 and HC because I think I built up enough in my system. Last week's blood work showed high T3, so I'm comfortable at reducing my dose a little bit.

The chill usually tells me I have just a tad too much cortisol that it suppressed adrenalin too much because my temp would still be OK or high, and taking just a little bit of T3 uses up the excess cortisol, and I no longer feel chilly.

I hope this helps some. I think I might post it in the hormones group.

Hello,

I've had some very odd (and scary) symptoms the past few months. During the luteal phase of my cycle, my temps go up (which is normal for me) to around 99.0, but now I'm having really high temps at this time -- like waking with a basal temp of 99.1 and temps of 99.6 during the day. I feel feverish all the time (not sure if this is a hot flash or not as I don't get flushes) and I also have chills. The chills just happen mostly at night and do NOT happen after I feel feverish.  They seems to be separate events.

[Guest guest]

I had a very similar experience when my progesterone peaked around day 15-19 - high temps, anxiety feeling (heart pounding), couldn't sleep well, etc. I WAS on P cream for a while and had stopped 2 mts ago, but my saliva test showed extrememly high levels.

Progesterone and cortisol fight for the same receptors, and some say that Progesterone converts to cortisol, so the extra cortisol could've pushed more T3 into the cells and we became hyper as a result. That's what I'm assuming, but I'm not so sure about the P converting to cortisol.

My estrogen is a bit low for someone my age (35), and I just had my DHEA-S and testosterone tested, and they both tanked! T3, cortisol, DHEA, and testosterone all work together, according to my doc. And low DHEA (mine's been low for a while and have been supplementing) means less of downstream hormones: testosterone and estrogen. So I upped my DHEA today.

When my P peaked and had high temps, I cut down on T3 and HC, but it didn't help much. The day after my P peaked and dropped (around day 20 for me), I felt soooooo bad that I had to dose T3 and HC in small doses hourly until I felt better. After that it's been pretty good. I'm working on reducing T3 and HC because I think I built up enough in my system. Last week's blood work showed high T3, so I'm comfortable at reducing my dose a little bit.

The chill usually tells me I have just a tad too much cortisol that it suppressed adrenalin too much because my temp would still be OK or high, and taking just a little bit of T3 uses up the excess cortisol, and I no longer feel chilly.

I hope this helps some. I think I might post it in the hormones group.

Hello,

I've had some very odd (and scary) symptoms the past few months. During the luteal phase of my cycle, my temps go up (which is normal for me) to around 99.0, but now I'm having really high temps at this time -- like waking with a basal temp of 99.1 and temps of 99.6 during the day. I feel feverish all the time (not sure if this is a hot flash or not as I don't get flushes) and I also have chills. The chills just happen mostly at night and do NOT happen after I feel feverish.  They seems to be separate events.

[Guest guest]

I had a very similar experience when my progesterone peaked around day 15-19 - high temps, anxiety feeling (heart pounding), couldn't sleep well, etc. I WAS on P cream for a while and had stopped 2 mts ago, but my saliva test showed extrememly high levels.

Progesterone and cortisol fight for the same receptors, and some say that Progesterone converts to cortisol, so the extra cortisol could've pushed more T3 into the cells and we became hyper as a result. That's what I'm assuming, but I'm not so sure about the P converting to cortisol.

My estrogen is a bit low for someone my age (35), and I just had my DHEA-S and testosterone tested, and they both tanked! T3, cortisol, DHEA, and testosterone all work together, according to my doc. And low DHEA (mine's been low for a while and have been supplementing) means less of downstream hormones: testosterone and estrogen. So I upped my DHEA today.

When my P peaked and had high temps, I cut down on T3 and HC, but it didn't help much. The day after my P peaked and dropped (around day 20 for me), I felt soooooo bad that I had to dose T3 and HC in small doses hourly until I felt better. After that it's been pretty good. I'm working on reducing T3 and HC because I think I built up enough in my system. Last week's blood work showed high T3, so I'm comfortable at reducing my dose a little bit.

The chill usually tells me I have just a tad too much cortisol that it suppressed adrenalin too much because my temp would still be OK or high, and taking just a little bit of T3 uses up the excess cortisol, and I no longer feel chilly.

I hope this helps some. I think I might post it in the hormones group.

Hello,

I've had some very odd (and scary) symptoms the past few months. During the luteal phase of my cycle, my temps go up (which is normal for me) to around 99.0, but now I'm having really high temps at this time -- like waking with a basal temp of 99.1 and temps of 99.6 during the day. I feel feverish all the time (not sure if this is a hot flash or not as I don't get flushes) and I also have chills. The chills just happen mostly at night and do NOT happen after I feel feverish.  They seems to be separate events.

[Guest guest]

Progesterone is a precursor to cortils and aldosterone so GOOD levels of

it ar3e important, BUT it can alos MIMICK cortils and thus bind ot it;s

receptors creating a form of cortisol resistance. Thsi si particularly

common when progesterone is too high which often happens wiht long term

use of creams supplements, especially if you lose weight! When you lose

weight many hormone excesses and especially estrogne and progesterine

are stored in the fat and as it is released, so are those excess

hormoens. I have had issues w2iht excess progesterone several times

after using creams and then even a year later losing weight. I think

progesterone si best supplemented orally for this reason.

--

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

Progesterone is a precursor to cortils and aldosterone so GOOD levels of

it ar3e important, BUT it can alos MIMICK cortils and thus bind ot it;s

receptors creating a form of cortisol resistance. Thsi si particularly

common when progesterone is too high which often happens wiht long term

use of creams supplements, especially if you lose weight! When you lose

weight many hormone excesses and especially estrogne and progesterine

are stored in the fat and as it is released, so are those excess

hormoens. I have had issues w2iht excess progesterone several times

after using creams and then even a year later losing weight. I think

progesterone si best supplemented orally for this reason.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

Progesterone is a precursor to cortils and aldosterone so GOOD levels of

it ar3e important, BUT it can alos MIMICK cortils and thus bind ot it;s

receptors creating a form of cortisol resistance. Thsi si particularly

common when progesterone is too high which often happens wiht long term

use of creams supplements, especially if you lose weight! When you lose

weight many hormone excesses and especially estrogne and progesterine

are stored in the fat and as it is released, so are those excess

hormoens. I have had issues w2iht excess progesterone several times

after using creams and then even a year later losing weight. I think

progesterone si best supplemented orally for this reason.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

This is wierd because I get that anxiety feeling when Im OFF progesterone...OR when my estrogen is high..like midcycle. If I use more progesterone it calms me. So I have the opposite of what you guys are talking about.

Hello,I've had some very odd (and scary) symptoms the past few months. During the luteal phase of my cycle, my temps go up (which is normal for me) to around 99.0, but now I'm having really high temps at this time -- like waking with a basal temp of 99.1 and temps of 99.6 during the day. I feel feverish all the time (not sure if this is a hot flash or not as I don't get flushes) and I also have chills. The chills just happen mostly at night and do NOT happen after I feel feverish. They seems to be separate events.

[Guest guest]

This is wierd because I get that anxiety feeling when Im OFF progesterone...OR when my estrogen is high..like midcycle. If I use more progesterone it calms me. So I have the opposite of what you guys are talking about.

Hello,I've had some very odd (and scary) symptoms the past few months. During the luteal phase of my cycle, my temps go up (which is normal for me) to around 99.0, but now I'm having really high temps at this time -- like waking with a basal temp of 99.1 and temps of 99.6 during the day. I feel feverish all the time (not sure if this is a hot flash or not as I don't get flushes) and I also have chills. The chills just happen mostly at night and do NOT happen after I feel feverish. They seems to be separate events.

[Guest guest]

This is wierd because I get that anxiety feeling when Im OFF progesterone...OR when my estrogen is high..like midcycle. If I use more progesterone it calms me. So I have the opposite of what you guys are talking about.

Hello,I've had some very odd (and scary) symptoms the past few months. During the luteal phase of my cycle, my temps go up (which is normal for me) to around 99.0, but now I'm having really high temps at this time -- like waking with a basal temp of 99.1 and temps of 99.6 during the day. I feel feverish all the time (not sure if this is a hot flash or not as I don't get flushes) and I also have chills. The chills just happen mostly at night and do NOT happen after I feel feverish. They seems to be separate events.

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much for the reply, Val.

Okay, so low estrogen should not be it, if I read your reply correctly.

Adrenaline can't cause high temp either? I know I went into Klonopin withdrawal

once when I ran out of meds and my temp did go up to 99.6 which the doc though

was normal for being in withdrawal. But I don't know if that's due to the stress

of withdrawal or the terrible anxiety and adrenaline rushes I was having due to

running out of the med.

To answer your response to same thread in another post immediately after this

one, no, I do not use PG cream. I used to for a few years, but the past few

months I realized I do not need it! I do take DHEA and 7-Keto DHEA, but I didn't

think either could turn into progestrone -- although it was after I started

taking it that I didn't have to use PG cream anymore! Any thoughts on that? How

could DHEA turn into PG?

I wonder now if I made myself sick from weaning HC too fast, which would account

for the " flusih " feelings and adrenaline rushes? I have also read that too low

cortisol can even cause fevers!

The infection thing is a real possibility. I *did* feel fluish when I was

running the higher temps right before my period, but why did the feelings go

away as soon as my peroiod came if it was infection? :-(I don't feel sick now

and the feverish feelings have gone away, but I still wonder about latent

infections as last winter I came down with an active EBV infection. (Made the

doc test it after I was feeling SO crappy all winter.) I wonder if it's hanging

around and causing elevated temps? I had elevated antibodies last time I tested.

I might have to go to one of those CFS docs because they will at least treat

latent infections and I can't get a doc here to do that.

But definitely something is going on because this happened with my last period

as well -- super hot and nervous, thought it was thyroid, lowered that and just

went hypo. Was also weaning HC at that time...so same pattern.

Thanks. I know I'm complicated.

Kathleen

>

> Hot flashes are a SKIN deep thing and do not affect your core temps.

> They are caused bylow estrogne or an adrenaline rush. For overall high

> temp I would look to high thyroid, which you have determined to not be

> the cause, high progesterone, or infection. You CAN run a fever before

> oyu actually feel ill.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much for the reply, Val.

Okay, so low estrogen should not be it, if I read your reply correctly.

Adrenaline can't cause high temp either? I know I went into Klonopin withdrawal

once when I ran out of meds and my temp did go up to 99.6 which the doc though

was normal for being in withdrawal. But I don't know if that's due to the stress

of withdrawal or the terrible anxiety and adrenaline rushes I was having due to

running out of the med.

To answer your response to same thread in another post immediately after this

one, no, I do not use PG cream. I used to for a few years, but the past few

months I realized I do not need it! I do take DHEA and 7-Keto DHEA, but I didn't

think either could turn into progestrone -- although it was after I started

taking it that I didn't have to use PG cream anymore! Any thoughts on that? How

could DHEA turn into PG?

I wonder now if I made myself sick from weaning HC too fast, which would account

for the " flusih " feelings and adrenaline rushes? I have also read that too low

cortisol can even cause fevers!

The infection thing is a real possibility. I *did* feel fluish when I was

running the higher temps right before my period, but why did the feelings go

away as soon as my peroiod came if it was infection? :-(I don't feel sick now

and the feverish feelings have gone away, but I still wonder about latent

infections as last winter I came down with an active EBV infection. (Made the

doc test it after I was feeling SO crappy all winter.) I wonder if it's hanging

around and causing elevated temps? I had elevated antibodies last time I tested.

I might have to go to one of those CFS docs because they will at least treat

latent infections and I can't get a doc here to do that.

But definitely something is going on because this happened with my last period

as well -- super hot and nervous, thought it was thyroid, lowered that and just

went hypo. Was also weaning HC at that time...so same pattern.

Thanks. I know I'm complicated.

Kathleen

>

> Hot flashes are a SKIN deep thing and do not affect your core temps.

> They are caused bylow estrogne or an adrenaline rush. For overall high

> temp I would look to high thyroid, which you have determined to not be

> the cause, high progesterone, or infection. You CAN run a fever before

> oyu actually feel ill.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much for the reply, Val.

Okay, so low estrogen should not be it, if I read your reply correctly.

Adrenaline can't cause high temp either? I know I went into Klonopin withdrawal

once when I ran out of meds and my temp did go up to 99.6 which the doc though

was normal for being in withdrawal. But I don't know if that's due to the stress

of withdrawal or the terrible anxiety and adrenaline rushes I was having due to

running out of the med.

To answer your response to same thread in another post immediately after this

one, no, I do not use PG cream. I used to for a few years, but the past few

months I realized I do not need it! I do take DHEA and 7-Keto DHEA, but I didn't

think either could turn into progestrone -- although it was after I started

taking it that I didn't have to use PG cream anymore! Any thoughts on that? How

could DHEA turn into PG?

I wonder now if I made myself sick from weaning HC too fast, which would account

for the " flusih " feelings and adrenaline rushes? I have also read that too low

cortisol can even cause fevers!

The infection thing is a real possibility. I *did* feel fluish when I was

running the higher temps right before my period, but why did the feelings go

away as soon as my peroiod came if it was infection? :-(I don't feel sick now

and the feverish feelings have gone away, but I still wonder about latent

infections as last winter I came down with an active EBV infection. (Made the

doc test it after I was feeling SO crappy all winter.) I wonder if it's hanging

around and causing elevated temps? I had elevated antibodies last time I tested.

I might have to go to one of those CFS docs because they will at least treat

latent infections and I can't get a doc here to do that.

But definitely something is going on because this happened with my last period

as well -- super hot and nervous, thought it was thyroid, lowered that and just

went hypo. Was also weaning HC at that time...so same pattern.

Thanks. I know I'm complicated.

Kathleen

>

> Hot flashes are a SKIN deep thing and do not affect your core temps.

> They are caused bylow estrogne or an adrenaline rush. For overall high

> temp I would look to high thyroid, which you have determined to not be

> the cause, high progesterone, or infection. You CAN run a fever before

> oyu actually feel ill.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

[Guest guest]

It's not weird. Everything they are saying is true, but if you are low in PG,

you will also feel anxious. So you could just need it.

I had thought of using some PG due to the symptoms, but with my temps that high,

I didn't dare. And my cylce came right on time without it, so apparently I

didn't any supplemental.

Kathleen

>

> Hello,

>

> I've had some very odd (and scary) symptoms the past few months. During the

luteal phase of my cycle, my temps go up (which is normal for me) to around

99.0, but now I'm having really high temps at this time -- like waking with a

basal temp of 99.1 and temps of 99.6 during the day. I feel feverish all the

time (not sure if this is a hot flash or not as I don't get flushes) and I also

have chills. The chills just happen mostly at night and do NOT happen after I

feel feverish.  They seems to be separate events.

>

[Guest guest]

It's not weird. Everything they are saying is true, but if you are low in PG,

you will also feel anxious. So you could just need it.

I had thought of using some PG due to the symptoms, but with my temps that high,

I didn't dare. And my cylce came right on time without it, so apparently I

didn't any supplemental.

Kathleen

>

> Hello,

>

> I've had some very odd (and scary) symptoms the past few months. During the

luteal phase of my cycle, my temps go up (which is normal for me) to around

99.0, but now I'm having really high temps at this time -- like waking with a

basal temp of 99.1 and temps of 99.6 during the day. I feel feverish all the

time (not sure if this is a hot flash or not as I don't get flushes) and I also

have chills. The chills just happen mostly at night and do NOT happen after I

feel feverish.  They seems to be separate events.

>

[Guest guest]

It's not weird. Everything they are saying is true, but if you are low in PG,

you will also feel anxious. So you could just need it.

I had thought of using some PG due to the symptoms, but with my temps that high,

I didn't dare. And my cylce came right on time without it, so apparently I

didn't any supplemental.

Kathleen

>

> Hello,

>

> I've had some very odd (and scary) symptoms the past few months. During the

luteal phase of my cycle, my temps go up (which is normal for me) to around

99.0, but now I'm having really high temps at this time -- like waking with a

basal temp of 99.1 and temps of 99.6 during the day. I feel feverish all the

time (not sure if this is a hot flash or not as I don't get flushes) and I also

have chills. The chills just happen mostly at night and do NOT happen after I

feel feverish.  They seems to be separate events.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I am new to this group and keep seeing a reference to HC -- what is this?

Thanks,

Beth S.

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 8:12:05 AMSubject: Re: Too High Temps, Hot Flashes, and Panic Attacks During Luteal Phase

I had a very similar experience when my progesterone peaked around day 15-19 - high temps, anxiety feeling (heart pounding), couldn't sleep well, etc. I WAS on P cream for a while and had stopped 2 mts ago, but my saliva test showed extrememly high levels.Progesterone and cortisol fight for the same receptors, and some say that Progesterone converts to cortisol, so the extra cortisol could've pushed more T3 into the cells and we became hyper as a result. That's what I'm assuming, but I'm not so sure about the P converting to cortisol.My estrogen is a bit low for someone my age (35), and I just had my DHEA-S and testosterone tested, and they both tanked! T3, cortisol, DHEA, and testosterone all work together, according to my doc. And low DHEA (mine's been low for a while and have been supplementing) means less of downstream hormones: testosterone and estrogen. So I upped my DHEA today.When my P peaked and had high temps, I cut

down on T3 and HC, but it didn't help much. The day after my P peaked and dropped (around day 20 for me), I felt soooooo bad that I had to dose T3 and HC in small doses hourly until I felt better. After that it's been pretty good. I'm working on reducing T3 and HC because I think I built up enough in my system. Last week's blood work showed high T3, so I'm comfortable at reducing my dose a little bit.The chill usually tells me I have just a tad too much cortisol that it suppressed adrenalin too much because my temp would still be OK or high, and taking just a little bit of T3 uses up the excess cortisol, and I no longer feel chilly.I hope this helps some. I think I might post it in the hormones group.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:59 PM, keickholt13 <keickholt13@ comcast.net> wrote:

Hello,I've had some very odd (and scary) symptoms the past few months. During the luteal phase of my cycle, my temps go up (which is normal for me) to around 99.0, but now I'm having really high temps at this time -- like waking with a basal temp of 99.1 and temps of 99.6 during the day. I feel feverish all the time (not sure if this is a hot flash or not as I don't get flushes) and I also have chills. The chills just happen mostly at night and do NOT happen after I feel feverish. They seems to be separate events.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I am new to this group and keep seeing a reference to HC -- what is this?

Thanks,

Beth S.

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 8:12:05 AMSubject: Re: Too High Temps, Hot Flashes, and Panic Attacks During Luteal Phase

I had a very similar experience when my progesterone peaked around day 15-19 - high temps, anxiety feeling (heart pounding), couldn't sleep well, etc. I WAS on P cream for a while and had stopped 2 mts ago, but my saliva test showed extrememly high levels.Progesterone and cortisol fight for the same receptors, and some say that Progesterone converts to cortisol, so the extra cortisol could've pushed more T3 into the cells and we became hyper as a result. That's what I'm assuming, but I'm not so sure about the P converting to cortisol.My estrogen is a bit low for someone my age (35), and I just had my DHEA-S and testosterone tested, and they both tanked! T3, cortisol, DHEA, and testosterone all work together, according to my doc. And low DHEA (mine's been low for a while and have been supplementing) means less of downstream hormones: testosterone and estrogen. So I upped my DHEA today.When my P peaked and had high temps, I cut

down on T3 and HC, but it didn't help much. The day after my P peaked and dropped (around day 20 for me), I felt soooooo bad that I had to dose T3 and HC in small doses hourly until I felt better. After that it's been pretty good. I'm working on reducing T3 and HC because I think I built up enough in my system. Last week's blood work showed high T3, so I'm comfortable at reducing my dose a little bit.The chill usually tells me I have just a tad too much cortisol that it suppressed adrenalin too much because my temp would still be OK or high, and taking just a little bit of T3 uses up the excess cortisol, and I no longer feel chilly.I hope this helps some. I think I might post it in the hormones group.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:59 PM, keickholt13 <keickholt13@ comcast.net> wrote:

Hello,I've had some very odd (and scary) symptoms the past few months. During the luteal phase of my cycle, my temps go up (which is normal for me) to around 99.0, but now I'm having really high temps at this time -- like waking with a basal temp of 99.1 and temps of 99.6 during the day. I feel feverish all the time (not sure if this is a hot flash or not as I don't get flushes) and I also have chills. The chills just happen mostly at night and do NOT happen after I feel feverish. They seems to be separate events.

[Guest guest]

HC is short for Hydrocortisone. It is used to replace cortisol in

adrenal fatigue which i very common in hypothyroid patients.

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/