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It's just my opinion and others may disagree, but I'd get him out of there.

Why? Because *YOUR* gut says it's not right. Just leave him in until you

find another placement, so he will have something. Getting out and seeing

other kids is worth something.

When we moved to this town a year ago we put our youngest in a program that

many people recommended. My husband and I hated it-- it just wasn't right

for our son. He stayed in one month, until we had something else lined up,

then we pulled him out. I'm glad we were able to.

I know you've had a hard time finding something that seems right to you. I

can't remember, have you investigated any small private preschools in your

area? In our last town we had our HOH son in a small private preschool.

Though they didn't have any experience with HOH children, they were so

language-oriented and paid so much attention to the individual child, that

my son did as well there as he would have in an evironment where someone

*did* have experience.

One last comment, and I'm no expert because my son's hearing loss isn't that

severe, but over his educational career it has been important to have some

experts in hearing loss as part of his support team. *BUT* we have sometimes

had most luck in other areas with plain old smart people.

One example, had a speech therapist in our last town who didn't have

any experience with HOH children, but because she was a really great SLP,

she was a superb teacher to him and he really learned well. His first grade

teacher is the same. Doesn't know a thing about hearing loss, but " gets "

kids and learning, and has anticipated and planned for every difficulty.

This has happened to us time and time again.

Sometimes our " experts " have such preconceived notions about how things

should be, that they don't actually help the INDIVIDUAL child because they

have blinders on. It sounds like you go through a lot of that.

I hope you find a better setup. Good luck

Daphne

mom to , 7, HOH, ADD, etc. & Leo, 5

> First day of school I'm already stressed

>

>

> Hi everyone,

> Today was 's first day of school and as I have mentioned

> before I don't feel the class is the right placement for

> because the other kids are not even able to sit up on their own.

> They have very limited use of their hands and are severely

> delayed. I agreed to let them try this for about 2-3 months and

> if I still didn't agree with the placement then to call an IEP

> meeting. My husband thinks the teacher will call by the end of

> the week telling us she doesn't think he belongs there. I don't know.

> I am already stressing out. He came home and I got a list of

> things he did today. They worked on saying things like " lets

> talk " , and something else I didn't understand by pressing a

> communication activator. From what I understand this is a button

> that you record a message and he presses it and it plays back the

> message. They said they worked on him responding to signs also.

> I'm thinking they are going way too easy on him. He used one of

> those communication devices when he was 18 months old and he

> stopped signing because it was easier to just push the button. I

> agreed that if they had a picture board for him to choose

> spacific pictures that would be ok, but instead of helping him

> gain more communication a communicator is going to limit his

> willingness to sign. I've seen it before. Not to mention he is

> way too old for something like this. He can sign, he is

> physically able to do it and mentally as well, he just needs to

> learn the sign and actually have a reason to use !

> it. They are dealing with the other children who are not able to

> sign and so I think their expectations for are way too low

> and I was frightened to hear that this is what they were working

> on. Not to mention they were only working on responding to signs

> and not for him to sign. Why don't they take the time they are

> wasting on a communicator and use that to teach him how to sign.

> Work on responding to signs and him signing for something he

> wants. I would be semi-ok with a communicator that has multiple

> buttons and you put pictures on each of them for him to choose

> and he pushes the button he wants. Of course I think that is

> unnecessary you could just take a board with the pictures and

> whichever he pushes that's the one he wants. If they are going

> to do pictures then that would work. Not to mention I made it

> clear I wanted to know all the signs they are working on so we

> could work on them at home. tends to not carry over, so if

> he signs something here he will !

> go to school and figure out what works there, and what he does at

> school he won't do at home because he knows that doesn't work at

> home. So we have to do the same thing at home as at school so he

> realizes this works everywhere. They didn't tell me anything

> about which words they were working on. Not to mention why would

> they work on pressing a button that has " lets talk " recorded on

> it. First he doesn't understand what the button is saying, and

> second what is the point of saying that, when he can't talk we

> are working on communicating all ready he doesn't have to ask to

> communicate. I don't know I could be seriously over-reacting, I

> just needed to vent because the more I hear the more stressed I

> am becoming. If I don't vent I will let this build up and get

> even more stressed. I just need to get it out in order to keep

> my sanity. I could be wrong but my gut is telling me they are

> babying him and if they keep it up he is going to regress. I

> can't handle that. They need!

> to have much higher expectations of him, if they don't insist he

> won't do it, he is very stubborn that way so we just have to be

> more stubborn, they aren't being stubborn they are going lower

> than his level and saying lets make this easy for you. Ok if you

> have any suggestions on if I should still wait or if I should

> jump in here. I told the teacher in a note that I didn't want

> him using a single communication device, because he will go

> backwards and not forward and that won't help him either. I said

> if it is one that has a few different pictures that he needs to

> choose from that would be ok. I don't think that they realize he

> is a normal 3 year old who can't communicate, they aren't used to

> that and I don't think they know how to deal with it. Not to

> mention they know I can't prove that because he can't be tested

> due to his lack of language. I just know from the things that he

> knows and does that he is actually very smart.

>

>

>

>

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Daphne,

Thank you for sharing your experience, It's true we want people who are

experienced with hearing loss, it's just we have a hard time getting anyone

to even admit he has one, because he only shows a mild high frequency loss

on ABR and not audiogram and they want to ignore that and insist it is

mental and that he is learning disabled, which is clearly not the case. My

gut is telling me their expectations of him are way to low. If they put

their expectations at a 2 instead of a 10 he will meet the 2 and nothing

more because that's how he is. He needs to be challenged and pushed to do

stuff. So my problem is getting them to admit he does have a hearing

impairment, he has a 30 dB loss in the high frequencies on ABR and the most

important thing in my opinion is the delay in his latencies which cause the

sound to be incomprehensable. He may also have a condition called word

deafness and all they want to focus is that it is all caused by damage to

the brain so it's a learning problem. My point is that my other son has

spina bifida and the damage to his back cause issues with his legs not

working well, and in some parts not at all, so just because the problem

starts with his back does that mean we should ignore the legs? No you brace

the legs and he can walk. Same thing the problem started in his brain but

that doesn't mean the ear works, so if we aid the ear he may hear better and

be able to function. At the very least he should get schooling for that of

a deaf child with Total communication. This child is not expected to talk,

but that doesn't mean he is learning disabled, just teach him how to sign

and he will be fine. Yes it may take more time because he doesn't

understand that sign can get him anywhere given his problems with pressure

in the past he just started functioning like a normal age appropriate 3 year

old a few months ago, so yes he is behind but mainly because he hasn't been

able to learn until now, but now that he is they need to go full force and

make him do it other wise he will try to cut the corners.

Anyway with regard to schools, we can't afford a private school, but the way

our district works is that we have him evaluated, we come up with an IEP and

if everyone agrees they place him. The problem is when we came up with the

IEP everything sounded great the way they put it. It wasn't until I saw the

class and the children who were falling over in their chairs that I realized

this is not the right place. I think what I am going to do is get situated

with our new case manager, fill her in on . Perhaps find a parent

advocate and call another meeting prepared to fight for what he needs which

is a normal class for hearing impaired children with total communication and

an FM system. There is a school in the other district that would provide

him with what he needs, but that is in the other district. If worse comes

to worse and they can't or won't comply it may get ugly but in the end we

will get what we want.

-- First day of school I'm already stressed

>

>

> Hi everyone,

> Today was 's first day of school and as I have mentioned

> before I don't feel the class is the right placement for

> because the other kids are not even able to sit up on their own.

> They have very limited use of their hands and are severely

> delayed. I agreed to let them try this for about 2-3 months and

> if I still didn't agree with the placement then to call an IEP

> meeting. My husband thinks the teacher will call by the end of

> the week telling us she doesn't think he belongs there. I don't know.

> I am already stressing out. He came home and I got a list of

> things he did today. They worked on saying things like " lets

> talk " , and something else I didn't understand by pressing a

> communication activator. From what I understand this is a button

> that you record a message and he presses it and it plays back the

> message. They said they worked on him responding to signs also.

> I'm thinking they are going way too easy on him. He used one of

> those communication devices when he was 18 months old and he

> stopped signing because it was easier to just push the button. I

> agreed that if they had a picture board for him to choose

> spacific pictures that would be ok, but instead of helping him

> gain more communication a communicator is going to limit his

> willingness to sign. I've seen it before. Not to mention he is

> way too old for something like this. He can sign, he is

> physically able to do it and mentally as well, he just needs to

> learn the sign and actually have a reason to use !

> it. They are dealing with the other children who are not able to

> sign and so I think their expectations for are way too low

> and I was frightened to hear that this is what they were working

> on. Not to mention they were only working on responding to signs

> and not for him to sign. Why don't they take the time they are

> wasting on a communicator and use that to teach him how to sign.

> Work on responding to signs and him signing for something he

> wants. I would be semi-ok with a communicator that has multiple

> buttons and you put pictures on each of them for him to choose

> and he pushes the button he wants. Of course I think that is

> unnecessary you could just take a board with the pictures and

> whichever he pushes that's the one he wants. If they are going

> to do pictures then that would work. Not to mention I made it

> clear I wanted to know all the signs they are working on so we

> could work on them at home. tends to not carry over, so if

> he signs something here he will !

> go to school and figure out what works there, and what he does at

> school he won't do at home because he knows that doesn't work at

> home. So we have to do the same thing at home as at school so he

> realizes this works everywhere. They didn't tell me anything

> about which words they were working on. Not to mention why would

> they work on pressing a button that has " lets talk " recorded on

> it. First he doesn't understand what the button is saying, and

> second what is the point of saying that, when he can't talk we

> are working on communicating all ready he doesn't have to ask to

> communicate. I don't know I could be seriously over-reacting, I

> just needed to vent because the more I hear the more stressed I

> am becoming. If I don't vent I will let this build up and get

> even more stressed. I just need to get it out in order to keep

> my sanity. I could be wrong but my gut is telling me they are

> babying him and if they keep it up he is going to regress. I

> can't handle that. They need!

> to have much higher expectations of him, if they don't insist he

> won't do it, he is very stubborn that way so we just have to be

> more stubborn, they aren't being stubborn they are going lower

> than his level and saying lets make this easy for you. Ok if you

> have any suggestions on if I should still wait or if I should

> jump in here. I told the teacher in a note that I didn't want

> him using a single communication device, because he will go

> backwards and not forward and that won't help him either. I said

> if it is one that has a few different pictures that he needs to

> choose from that would be ok. I don't think that they realize he

> is a normal 3 year old who can't communicate, they aren't used to

> that and I don't think they know how to deal with it. Not to

> mention they know I can't prove that because he can't be tested

> due to his lack of language. I just know from the things that he

> knows and does that he is actually very smart.

>

>

>

>

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Dear ,

I'm sorry to hear about the situation at 's school. I know how frustrating

it is when you can communicate with your child. sounds like Sierra in some

ways. Sierra has been going to preschool for about a month now she likes it so

far. She is in a class that has half typical children and half kids with

special needs. They kids are 3,4, and 5 years old. Sierra is the youngest one

now (although they are supposed to be getting a new little girl). Sierra is the

only one in the class that uses sign so most of the teachers don't know much

which is frustrating. She just got a new teacher yesterday, hopefully things

will improve. I really feel Sierra will do much better once we get the CI. If

you really feel that it isn't working for I wouldn't wait 2-3 months maybe

2-3 weeks before you ask to have him moved to a different class (one with some

kids that don't have any development delays) that way he can learn from them as

well. Well I need to go. Keep us updated. Take care and God Bless.

Natasha~Mommy to~

(8/25/97) & *Sierra (11/28/00)

*Multiple Craniosynostosis, Crouzon's Syndrome,

Asthma, Trach, Tracheamalacia, Subglottic Stenosis,

Chonal Atresia, FTT, GERD, G-tube & Nissan,

Profound hearing loss. Sierra's story:

www.cappskids.org/CAPPSCranioKidSierra.htm

First day of school I'm already stressed

Hi everyone,

Today was 's first day of school and as I have mentioned before I don't

feel the class is the right placement for because the other kids are not

even able to sit up on their own. They have very limited use of their hands and

are severely delayed. I agreed to let them try this for about 2-3 months and if

I still didn't agree with the placement then to call an IEP meeting. My husband

thinks the teacher will call by the end of the week telling us she doesn't think

he belongs there. I don't know.

I am already stressing out. He came home and I got a list of things he did

today. They worked on saying things like " lets talk " , and something else I

didn't understand by pressing a communication activator. From what I understand

this is a button that you record a message and he presses it and it plays back

the message. They said they worked on him responding to signs also. I'm

thinking they are going way too easy on him. He used one of those communication

devices when he was 18 months old and he stopped signing because it was easier

to just push the button. I agreed that if they had a picture board for him to

choose spacific pictures that would be ok, but instead of helping him gain more

communication a communicator is going to limit his willingness to sign. I've

seen it before. Not to mention he is way too old for something like this. He

can sign, he is physically able to do it and mentally as well, he just needs to

learn the sign and actually have a reason to use it. They are dealing with the

other children who are not able to sign and so I think their expectations for

are way too low and I was frightened to hear that this is what they were

working on. Not to mention they were only working on responding to signs and

not for him to sign. Why don't they take the time they are wasting on a

communicator and use that to teach him how to sign. Work on responding to signs

and him signing for something he wants. I would be semi-ok with a communicator

that has multiple buttons and you put pictures on each of them for him to choose

and he pushes the button he wants. Of course I think that is unnecessary you

could just take a board with the pictures and whichever he pushes that's the one

he wants. If they are going to do pictures then that would work. Not to

mention I made it clear I wanted to know all the signs they are working on so we

could work on them at home. tends to not carry over, so if he signs

something here he will go to school and figure out what works there, and what he

does at school he won't do at home because he knows that doesn't work at home.

So we have to do the same thing at home as at school so he realizes this works

everywhere. They didn't tell me anything about which words they were working

on. Not to mention why would they work on pressing a button that has " lets

talk " recorded on it. First he doesn't understand what the button is saying,

and second what is the point of saying that, when he can't talk we are working

on communicating all ready he doesn't have to ask to communicate. I don't know

I could be seriously over-reacting, I just needed to vent because the more I

hear the more stressed I am becoming. If I don't vent I will let this build up

and get even more stressed. I just need to get it out in order to keep my

sanity. I could be wrong but my gut is telling me they are babying him and if

they keep it up he is going to regress. I can't handle that. They need to have

much higher expectations of him, if they don't insist he won't do it, he is very

stubborn that way so we just have to be more stubborn, they aren't being

stubborn they are going lower than his level and saying lets make this easy for

you. Ok if you have any suggestions on if I should still wait or if I should

jump in here. I told the teacher in a note that I didn't want him using a

single communication device, because he will go backwards and not forward and

that won't help him either. I said if it is one that has a few different

pictures that he needs to choose from that would be ok. I don't think that they

realize he is a normal 3 year old who can't communicate, they aren't used to

that and I don't think they know how to deal with it. Not to mention they know

I can't prove that because he can't be tested due to his lack of language. I

just know from the things that he knows and does that he is actually very smart.

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Dear ,

I'm sorry to hear about the situation at 's school. I know how frustrating

it is when you can communicate with your child. sounds like Sierra in some

ways. Sierra has been going to preschool for about a month now she likes it so

far. She is in a class that has half typical children and half kids with

special needs. They kids are 3,4, and 5 years old. Sierra is the youngest one

now (although they are supposed to be getting a new little girl). Sierra is the

only one in the class that uses sign so most of the teachers don't know much

which is frustrating. She just got a new teacher yesterday, hopefully things

will improve. I really feel Sierra will do much better once we get the CI. If

you really feel that it isn't working for I wouldn't wait 2-3 months maybe

2-3 weeks before you ask to have him moved to a different class (one with some

kids that don't have any development delays) that way he can learn from them as

well. Well I need to go. Keep us updated. Take care and God Bless.

Natasha~Mommy to~

(8/25/97) & *Sierra (11/28/00)

*Multiple Craniosynostosis, Crouzon's Syndrome,

Asthma, Trach, Tracheamalacia, Subglottic Stenosis,

Chonal Atresia, FTT, GERD, G-tube & Nissan,

Profound hearing loss. Sierra's story:

www.cappskids.org/CAPPSCranioKidSierra.htm

First day of school I'm already stressed

Hi everyone,

Today was 's first day of school and as I have mentioned before I don't

feel the class is the right placement for because the other kids are not

even able to sit up on their own. They have very limited use of their hands and

are severely delayed. I agreed to let them try this for about 2-3 months and if

I still didn't agree with the placement then to call an IEP meeting. My husband

thinks the teacher will call by the end of the week telling us she doesn't think

he belongs there. I don't know.

I am already stressing out. He came home and I got a list of things he did

today. They worked on saying things like " lets talk " , and something else I

didn't understand by pressing a communication activator. From what I understand

this is a button that you record a message and he presses it and it plays back

the message. They said they worked on him responding to signs also. I'm

thinking they are going way too easy on him. He used one of those communication

devices when he was 18 months old and he stopped signing because it was easier

to just push the button. I agreed that if they had a picture board for him to

choose spacific pictures that would be ok, but instead of helping him gain more

communication a communicator is going to limit his willingness to sign. I've

seen it before. Not to mention he is way too old for something like this. He

can sign, he is physically able to do it and mentally as well, he just needs to

learn the sign and actually have a reason to use it. They are dealing with the

other children who are not able to sign and so I think their expectations for

are way too low and I was frightened to hear that this is what they were

working on. Not to mention they were only working on responding to signs and

not for him to sign. Why don't they take the time they are wasting on a

communicator and use that to teach him how to sign. Work on responding to signs

and him signing for something he wants. I would be semi-ok with a communicator

that has multiple buttons and you put pictures on each of them for him to choose

and he pushes the button he wants. Of course I think that is unnecessary you

could just take a board with the pictures and whichever he pushes that's the one

he wants. If they are going to do pictures then that would work. Not to

mention I made it clear I wanted to know all the signs they are working on so we

could work on them at home. tends to not carry over, so if he signs

something here he will go to school and figure out what works there, and what he

does at school he won't do at home because he knows that doesn't work at home.

So we have to do the same thing at home as at school so he realizes this works

everywhere. They didn't tell me anything about which words they were working

on. Not to mention why would they work on pressing a button that has " lets

talk " recorded on it. First he doesn't understand what the button is saying,

and second what is the point of saying that, when he can't talk we are working

on communicating all ready he doesn't have to ask to communicate. I don't know

I could be seriously over-reacting, I just needed to vent because the more I

hear the more stressed I am becoming. If I don't vent I will let this build up

and get even more stressed. I just need to get it out in order to keep my

sanity. I could be wrong but my gut is telling me they are babying him and if

they keep it up he is going to regress. I can't handle that. They need to have

much higher expectations of him, if they don't insist he won't do it, he is very

stubborn that way so we just have to be more stubborn, they aren't being

stubborn they are going lower than his level and saying lets make this easy for

you. Ok if you have any suggestions on if I should still wait or if I should

jump in here. I told the teacher in a note that I didn't want him using a

single communication device, because he will go backwards and not forward and

that won't help him either. I said if it is one that has a few different

pictures that he needs to choose from that would be ok. I don't think that they

realize he is a normal 3 year old who can't communicate, they aren't used to

that and I don't think they know how to deal with it. Not to mention they know

I can't prove that because he can't be tested due to his lack of language. I

just know from the things that he knows and does that he is actually very smart.

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Dear ,

I'm sorry to hear about the situation at 's school. I know how frustrating

it is when you can communicate with your child. sounds like Sierra in some

ways. Sierra has been going to preschool for about a month now she likes it so

far. She is in a class that has half typical children and half kids with

special needs. They kids are 3,4, and 5 years old. Sierra is the youngest one

now (although they are supposed to be getting a new little girl). Sierra is the

only one in the class that uses sign so most of the teachers don't know much

which is frustrating. She just got a new teacher yesterday, hopefully things

will improve. I really feel Sierra will do much better once we get the CI. If

you really feel that it isn't working for I wouldn't wait 2-3 months maybe

2-3 weeks before you ask to have him moved to a different class (one with some

kids that don't have any development delays) that way he can learn from them as

well. Well I need to go. Keep us updated. Take care and God Bless.

Natasha~Mommy to~

(8/25/97) & *Sierra (11/28/00)

*Multiple Craniosynostosis, Crouzon's Syndrome,

Asthma, Trach, Tracheamalacia, Subglottic Stenosis,

Chonal Atresia, FTT, GERD, G-tube & Nissan,

Profound hearing loss. Sierra's story:

www.cappskids.org/CAPPSCranioKidSierra.htm

First day of school I'm already stressed

Hi everyone,

Today was 's first day of school and as I have mentioned before I don't

feel the class is the right placement for because the other kids are not

even able to sit up on their own. They have very limited use of their hands and

are severely delayed. I agreed to let them try this for about 2-3 months and if

I still didn't agree with the placement then to call an IEP meeting. My husband

thinks the teacher will call by the end of the week telling us she doesn't think

he belongs there. I don't know.

I am already stressing out. He came home and I got a list of things he did

today. They worked on saying things like " lets talk " , and something else I

didn't understand by pressing a communication activator. From what I understand

this is a button that you record a message and he presses it and it plays back

the message. They said they worked on him responding to signs also. I'm

thinking they are going way too easy on him. He used one of those communication

devices when he was 18 months old and he stopped signing because it was easier

to just push the button. I agreed that if they had a picture board for him to

choose spacific pictures that would be ok, but instead of helping him gain more

communication a communicator is going to limit his willingness to sign. I've

seen it before. Not to mention he is way too old for something like this. He

can sign, he is physically able to do it and mentally as well, he just needs to

learn the sign and actually have a reason to use it. They are dealing with the

other children who are not able to sign and so I think their expectations for

are way too low and I was frightened to hear that this is what they were

working on. Not to mention they were only working on responding to signs and

not for him to sign. Why don't they take the time they are wasting on a

communicator and use that to teach him how to sign. Work on responding to signs

and him signing for something he wants. I would be semi-ok with a communicator

that has multiple buttons and you put pictures on each of them for him to choose

and he pushes the button he wants. Of course I think that is unnecessary you

could just take a board with the pictures and whichever he pushes that's the one

he wants. If they are going to do pictures then that would work. Not to

mention I made it clear I wanted to know all the signs they are working on so we

could work on them at home. tends to not carry over, so if he signs

something here he will go to school and figure out what works there, and what he

does at school he won't do at home because he knows that doesn't work at home.

So we have to do the same thing at home as at school so he realizes this works

everywhere. They didn't tell me anything about which words they were working

on. Not to mention why would they work on pressing a button that has " lets

talk " recorded on it. First he doesn't understand what the button is saying,

and second what is the point of saying that, when he can't talk we are working

on communicating all ready he doesn't have to ask to communicate. I don't know

I could be seriously over-reacting, I just needed to vent because the more I

hear the more stressed I am becoming. If I don't vent I will let this build up

and get even more stressed. I just need to get it out in order to keep my

sanity. I could be wrong but my gut is telling me they are babying him and if

they keep it up he is going to regress. I can't handle that. They need to have

much higher expectations of him, if they don't insist he won't do it, he is very

stubborn that way so we just have to be more stubborn, they aren't being

stubborn they are going lower than his level and saying lets make this easy for

you. Ok if you have any suggestions on if I should still wait or if I should

jump in here. I told the teacher in a note that I didn't want him using a

single communication device, because he will go backwards and not forward and

that won't help him either. I said if it is one that has a few different

pictures that he needs to choose from that would be ok. I don't think that they

realize he is a normal 3 year old who can't communicate, they aren't used to

that and I don't think they know how to deal with it. Not to mention they know

I can't prove that because he can't be tested due to his lack of language. I

just know from the things that he knows and does that he is actually very smart.

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Natasha,

Thanks, I am leaning that way now also, more like a couple weeks instead of

months. My speech therapist suggested we wait a few months because as she

put it I can't handle the stress. I realized yesterday not acting on it

will most likely cause me more stress, so I'm thinking I need to do

something about it as soon as I have more info on what they are doing, and I

want to observe the classroom with him as a part of it too before doing

anything. I'm thinking I should keep my mouth shut until the IEP meeting

though. The education guy put it well when we talked to him today, saying

the teacher has children who are severely delayed, that is what she does she

teaches children who are severely delayed, that school was built for

children with severe delays, it is not a normal school, the entire school

has kids who need extra help. So it is probable that she doesn't know how

to teach a normal child with hearing problems. They insist that we don't

know where he is at cognatively but I can see more every day how bright he

is. If he is delayed he might be a few months behind at most, the

evaluations for OT showed him at 30 months and he just turned 3 that was

before his surgery, the lowest rating was at 24 months before his surgery,

so he is at least 2 cognatively and these other kids are like under 1.

Anyway I am going to be a quiet observer for a few weeks while I get my info

together and prepare for a fight. I think would really like to see

other active kids and he needs to learn how to act with and around normal

children. Which is why I want him in a class with children of normal

cognative function with an environment focused on signing and communication,

so he is emersed in it.

-- Re: First day of school I'm already stressed

Dear ,

I'm sorry to hear about the situation at 's school. I know how

frustrating it is when you can communicate with your child. sounds

like Sierra in some ways. Sierra has been going to preschool for about a

month now she likes it so far. She is in a class that has half typical

children and half kids with special needs. They kids are 3,4, and 5 years

old. Sierra is the youngest one now (although they are supposed to be

getting a new little girl). Sierra is the only one in the class that uses

sign so most of the teachers don't know much which is frustrating. She just

got a new teacher yesterday, hopefully things will improve. I really feel

Sierra will do much better once we get the CI. If you really feel that it

isn't working for I wouldn't wait 2-3 months maybe 2-3 weeks before you

ask to have him moved to a different class (one with some kids that don't

have any development delays) that way he can learn from them as well. Well

I need to go. Keep us updated. Take care and God Bless.

Natasha~Mommy to~

(8/25/97) & *Sierra (11/28/00)

*Multiple Craniosynostosis, Crouzon's Syndrome,

Asthma, Trach, Tracheamalacia, Subglottic Stenosis,

Chonal Atresia, FTT, GERD, G-tube & Nissan,

Profound hearing loss. Sierra's story:

www.cappskids.org/CAPPSCranioKidSierra.htm

First day of school I'm already stressed

Hi everyone,

Today was 's first day of school and as I have mentioned before I don

t feel the class is the right placement for because the other kids are

not even able to sit up on their own. They have very limited use of their

hands and are severely delayed. I agreed to let them try this for about 2-3

months and if I still didn't agree with the placement then to call an IEP

meeting. My husband thinks the teacher will call by the end of the week

telling us she doesn't think he belongs there. I don't know.

I am already stressing out. He came home and I got a list of things he

did today. They worked on saying things like " lets talk " , and something

else I didn't understand by pressing a communication activator. From what I

understand this is a button that you record a message and he presses it and

it plays back the message. They said they worked on him responding to signs

also. I'm thinking they are going way too easy on him. He used one of

those communication devices when he was 18 months old and he stopped signing

because it was easier to just push the button. I agreed that if they had a

picture board for him to choose spacific pictures that would be ok, but

instead of helping him gain more communication a communicator is going to

limit his willingness to sign. I've seen it before. Not to mention he is

way too old for something like this. He can sign, he is physically able to

do it and mentally as well, he just needs to learn the sign and actually

have a reason to use it. They are dealing with the other children who are

not able to sign and so I think their expectations for are way too low

and I was frightened to hear that this is what they were working on. Not to

mention they were only working on responding to signs and not for him to

sign. Why don't they take the time they are wasting on a communicator and

use that to teach him how to sign. Work on responding to signs and him

signing for something he wants. I would be semi-ok with a communicator that

has multiple buttons and you put pictures on each of them for him to choose

and he pushes the button he wants. Of course I think that is unnecessary

you could just take a board with the pictures and whichever he pushes that's

the one he wants. If they are going to do pictures then that would work.

Not to mention I made it clear I wanted to know all the signs they are

working on so we could work on them at home. tends to not carry over,

so if he signs something here he will go to school and figure out what works

there, and what he does at school he won't do at home because he knows that

doesn't work at home. So we have to do the same thing at home as at school

so he realizes this works everywhere. They didn't tell me anything about

which words they were working on. Not to mention why would they work on

pressing a button that has " lets talk " recorded on it. First he doesn't

understand what the button is saying, and second what is the point of saying

that, when he can't talk we are working on communicating all ready he doesn

t have to ask to communicate. I don't know I could be seriously

over-reacting, I just needed to vent because the more I hear the more

stressed I am becoming. If I don't vent I will let this build up and get

even more stressed. I just need to get it out in order to keep my sanity.

I could be wrong but my gut is telling me they are babying him and if they

keep it up he is going to regress. I can't handle that. They need to have

much higher expectations of him, if they don't insist he won't do it, he is

very stubborn that way so we just have to be more stubborn, they aren't

being stubborn they are going lower than his level and saying lets make this

easy for you. Ok if you have any suggestions on if I should still wait or

if I should jump in here. I told the teacher in a note that I didn't want

him using a single communication device, because he will go backwards and

not forward and that won't help him either. I said if it is one that has a

few different pictures that he needs to choose from that would be ok. I don

t think that they realize he is a normal 3 year old who can't communicate,

they aren't used to that and I don't think they know how to deal with it.

Not to mention they know I can't prove that because he can't be tested due

to his lack of language. I just know from the things that he knows and does

that he is actually very smart.

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Natasha,

Thanks, I am leaning that way now also, more like a couple weeks instead of

months. My speech therapist suggested we wait a few months because as she

put it I can't handle the stress. I realized yesterday not acting on it

will most likely cause me more stress, so I'm thinking I need to do

something about it as soon as I have more info on what they are doing, and I

want to observe the classroom with him as a part of it too before doing

anything. I'm thinking I should keep my mouth shut until the IEP meeting

though. The education guy put it well when we talked to him today, saying

the teacher has children who are severely delayed, that is what she does she

teaches children who are severely delayed, that school was built for

children with severe delays, it is not a normal school, the entire school

has kids who need extra help. So it is probable that she doesn't know how

to teach a normal child with hearing problems. They insist that we don't

know where he is at cognatively but I can see more every day how bright he

is. If he is delayed he might be a few months behind at most, the

evaluations for OT showed him at 30 months and he just turned 3 that was

before his surgery, the lowest rating was at 24 months before his surgery,

so he is at least 2 cognatively and these other kids are like under 1.

Anyway I am going to be a quiet observer for a few weeks while I get my info

together and prepare for a fight. I think would really like to see

other active kids and he needs to learn how to act with and around normal

children. Which is why I want him in a class with children of normal

cognative function with an environment focused on signing and communication,

so he is emersed in it.

-- Re: First day of school I'm already stressed

Dear ,

I'm sorry to hear about the situation at 's school. I know how

frustrating it is when you can communicate with your child. sounds

like Sierra in some ways. Sierra has been going to preschool for about a

month now she likes it so far. She is in a class that has half typical

children and half kids with special needs. They kids are 3,4, and 5 years

old. Sierra is the youngest one now (although they are supposed to be

getting a new little girl). Sierra is the only one in the class that uses

sign so most of the teachers don't know much which is frustrating. She just

got a new teacher yesterday, hopefully things will improve. I really feel

Sierra will do much better once we get the CI. If you really feel that it

isn't working for I wouldn't wait 2-3 months maybe 2-3 weeks before you

ask to have him moved to a different class (one with some kids that don't

have any development delays) that way he can learn from them as well. Well

I need to go. Keep us updated. Take care and God Bless.

Natasha~Mommy to~

(8/25/97) & *Sierra (11/28/00)

*Multiple Craniosynostosis, Crouzon's Syndrome,

Asthma, Trach, Tracheamalacia, Subglottic Stenosis,

Chonal Atresia, FTT, GERD, G-tube & Nissan,

Profound hearing loss. Sierra's story:

www.cappskids.org/CAPPSCranioKidSierra.htm

First day of school I'm already stressed

Hi everyone,

Today was 's first day of school and as I have mentioned before I don

t feel the class is the right placement for because the other kids are

not even able to sit up on their own. They have very limited use of their

hands and are severely delayed. I agreed to let them try this for about 2-3

months and if I still didn't agree with the placement then to call an IEP

meeting. My husband thinks the teacher will call by the end of the week

telling us she doesn't think he belongs there. I don't know.

I am already stressing out. He came home and I got a list of things he

did today. They worked on saying things like " lets talk " , and something

else I didn't understand by pressing a communication activator. From what I

understand this is a button that you record a message and he presses it and

it plays back the message. They said they worked on him responding to signs

also. I'm thinking they are going way too easy on him. He used one of

those communication devices when he was 18 months old and he stopped signing

because it was easier to just push the button. I agreed that if they had a

picture board for him to choose spacific pictures that would be ok, but

instead of helping him gain more communication a communicator is going to

limit his willingness to sign. I've seen it before. Not to mention he is

way too old for something like this. He can sign, he is physically able to

do it and mentally as well, he just needs to learn the sign and actually

have a reason to use it. They are dealing with the other children who are

not able to sign and so I think their expectations for are way too low

and I was frightened to hear that this is what they were working on. Not to

mention they were only working on responding to signs and not for him to

sign. Why don't they take the time they are wasting on a communicator and

use that to teach him how to sign. Work on responding to signs and him

signing for something he wants. I would be semi-ok with a communicator that

has multiple buttons and you put pictures on each of them for him to choose

and he pushes the button he wants. Of course I think that is unnecessary

you could just take a board with the pictures and whichever he pushes that's

the one he wants. If they are going to do pictures then that would work.

Not to mention I made it clear I wanted to know all the signs they are

working on so we could work on them at home. tends to not carry over,

so if he signs something here he will go to school and figure out what works

there, and what he does at school he won't do at home because he knows that

doesn't work at home. So we have to do the same thing at home as at school

so he realizes this works everywhere. They didn't tell me anything about

which words they were working on. Not to mention why would they work on

pressing a button that has " lets talk " recorded on it. First he doesn't

understand what the button is saying, and second what is the point of saying

that, when he can't talk we are working on communicating all ready he doesn

t have to ask to communicate. I don't know I could be seriously

over-reacting, I just needed to vent because the more I hear the more

stressed I am becoming. If I don't vent I will let this build up and get

even more stressed. I just need to get it out in order to keep my sanity.

I could be wrong but my gut is telling me they are babying him and if they

keep it up he is going to regress. I can't handle that. They need to have

much higher expectations of him, if they don't insist he won't do it, he is

very stubborn that way so we just have to be more stubborn, they aren't

being stubborn they are going lower than his level and saying lets make this

easy for you. Ok if you have any suggestions on if I should still wait or

if I should jump in here. I told the teacher in a note that I didn't want

him using a single communication device, because he will go backwards and

not forward and that won't help him either. I said if it is one that has a

few different pictures that he needs to choose from that would be ok. I don

t think that they realize he is a normal 3 year old who can't communicate,

they aren't used to that and I don't think they know how to deal with it.

Not to mention they know I can't prove that because he can't be tested due

to his lack of language. I just know from the things that he knows and does

that he is actually very smart.

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Natasha,

Thanks, I am leaning that way now also, more like a couple weeks instead of

months. My speech therapist suggested we wait a few months because as she

put it I can't handle the stress. I realized yesterday not acting on it

will most likely cause me more stress, so I'm thinking I need to do

something about it as soon as I have more info on what they are doing, and I

want to observe the classroom with him as a part of it too before doing

anything. I'm thinking I should keep my mouth shut until the IEP meeting

though. The education guy put it well when we talked to him today, saying

the teacher has children who are severely delayed, that is what she does she

teaches children who are severely delayed, that school was built for

children with severe delays, it is not a normal school, the entire school

has kids who need extra help. So it is probable that she doesn't know how

to teach a normal child with hearing problems. They insist that we don't

know where he is at cognatively but I can see more every day how bright he

is. If he is delayed he might be a few months behind at most, the

evaluations for OT showed him at 30 months and he just turned 3 that was

before his surgery, the lowest rating was at 24 months before his surgery,

so he is at least 2 cognatively and these other kids are like under 1.

Anyway I am going to be a quiet observer for a few weeks while I get my info

together and prepare for a fight. I think would really like to see

other active kids and he needs to learn how to act with and around normal

children. Which is why I want him in a class with children of normal

cognative function with an environment focused on signing and communication,

so he is emersed in it.

-- Re: First day of school I'm already stressed

Dear ,

I'm sorry to hear about the situation at 's school. I know how

frustrating it is when you can communicate with your child. sounds

like Sierra in some ways. Sierra has been going to preschool for about a

month now she likes it so far. She is in a class that has half typical

children and half kids with special needs. They kids are 3,4, and 5 years

old. Sierra is the youngest one now (although they are supposed to be

getting a new little girl). Sierra is the only one in the class that uses

sign so most of the teachers don't know much which is frustrating. She just

got a new teacher yesterday, hopefully things will improve. I really feel

Sierra will do much better once we get the CI. If you really feel that it

isn't working for I wouldn't wait 2-3 months maybe 2-3 weeks before you

ask to have him moved to a different class (one with some kids that don't

have any development delays) that way he can learn from them as well. Well

I need to go. Keep us updated. Take care and God Bless.

Natasha~Mommy to~

(8/25/97) & *Sierra (11/28/00)

*Multiple Craniosynostosis, Crouzon's Syndrome,

Asthma, Trach, Tracheamalacia, Subglottic Stenosis,

Chonal Atresia, FTT, GERD, G-tube & Nissan,

Profound hearing loss. Sierra's story:

www.cappskids.org/CAPPSCranioKidSierra.htm

First day of school I'm already stressed

Hi everyone,

Today was 's first day of school and as I have mentioned before I don

t feel the class is the right placement for because the other kids are

not even able to sit up on their own. They have very limited use of their

hands and are severely delayed. I agreed to let them try this for about 2-3

months and if I still didn't agree with the placement then to call an IEP

meeting. My husband thinks the teacher will call by the end of the week

telling us she doesn't think he belongs there. I don't know.

I am already stressing out. He came home and I got a list of things he

did today. They worked on saying things like " lets talk " , and something

else I didn't understand by pressing a communication activator. From what I

understand this is a button that you record a message and he presses it and

it plays back the message. They said they worked on him responding to signs

also. I'm thinking they are going way too easy on him. He used one of

those communication devices when he was 18 months old and he stopped signing

because it was easier to just push the button. I agreed that if they had a

picture board for him to choose spacific pictures that would be ok, but

instead of helping him gain more communication a communicator is going to

limit his willingness to sign. I've seen it before. Not to mention he is

way too old for something like this. He can sign, he is physically able to

do it and mentally as well, he just needs to learn the sign and actually

have a reason to use it. They are dealing with the other children who are

not able to sign and so I think their expectations for are way too low

and I was frightened to hear that this is what they were working on. Not to

mention they were only working on responding to signs and not for him to

sign. Why don't they take the time they are wasting on a communicator and

use that to teach him how to sign. Work on responding to signs and him

signing for something he wants. I would be semi-ok with a communicator that

has multiple buttons and you put pictures on each of them for him to choose

and he pushes the button he wants. Of course I think that is unnecessary

you could just take a board with the pictures and whichever he pushes that's

the one he wants. If they are going to do pictures then that would work.

Not to mention I made it clear I wanted to know all the signs they are

working on so we could work on them at home. tends to not carry over,

so if he signs something here he will go to school and figure out what works

there, and what he does at school he won't do at home because he knows that

doesn't work at home. So we have to do the same thing at home as at school

so he realizes this works everywhere. They didn't tell me anything about

which words they were working on. Not to mention why would they work on

pressing a button that has " lets talk " recorded on it. First he doesn't

understand what the button is saying, and second what is the point of saying

that, when he can't talk we are working on communicating all ready he doesn

t have to ask to communicate. I don't know I could be seriously

over-reacting, I just needed to vent because the more I hear the more

stressed I am becoming. If I don't vent I will let this build up and get

even more stressed. I just need to get it out in order to keep my sanity.

I could be wrong but my gut is telling me they are babying him and if they

keep it up he is going to regress. I can't handle that. They need to have

much higher expectations of him, if they don't insist he won't do it, he is

very stubborn that way so we just have to be more stubborn, they aren't

being stubborn they are going lower than his level and saying lets make this

easy for you. Ok if you have any suggestions on if I should still wait or

if I should jump in here. I told the teacher in a note that I didn't want

him using a single communication device, because he will go backwards and

not forward and that won't help him either. I said if it is one that has a

few different pictures that he needs to choose from that would be ok. I don

t think that they realize he is a normal 3 year old who can't communicate,

they aren't used to that and I don't think they know how to deal with it.

Not to mention they know I can't prove that because he can't be tested due

to his lack of language. I just know from the things that he knows and does

that he is actually very smart.

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