Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 <PRE>You are so right about all these different studies. No one seems to agree what is best for us to eat. Shoshannah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 <PRE>You are so right about all these different studies. No one seems to agree what is best for us to eat. Shoshannah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 Crimmine.. thats alot of carbs. I hit the carb craving wall here in the 8th week. I was freaking until I got on the scale and saw I had LOST weight (been on a plateau for a while). Read somehere that, even though yoru body is in fat storage mode you are also experiencing a significant increase in metabolism. That has to translate to cravings. I try to keep mine down but its hard (am not diabetic but was hypoglycemic before the band). Example: Today was in a marathon meeting in a hot stuffy noisy room. I took in my miso soup (with chunks of tofu even) and soybean crunchies (low salt lof fat roasts soy beans) I eat these slowly but got really miserable towards the end of 2 hours in the meeting.. so I begged off, ment back to my office and was getting clammy and pre- migrane-ish! I ate two saltines and it all felt better. I was NOT like this before pregnancy. I could go just protein all day with no ill effect. Now I have to watch it. Nika > Yeah, it can all get a little overwhelming. But remember, ten docs > in a room can't seem to agree on what to feed a " normal " patient > (the food pyramid debate), what to feed a cancer patient (the > macrobiotics debate), or what to feed a WLS patient (the > high-protein debate). So why should pregnancy be any different? > Personally, i think the lack of true understanding we have about > what our bodies need and how they use nutrients is shocking in > such a medically advanced age. But nutrition studies just don't > generate the big bucks that research on a potential new drug > does. > > So what do we do? Go for the middle on anything except > something that really bothers us, I suppose. Water quality > creeps me out, personally, so I much prefer bottled or filtered > water even if I'm not drinking it straight. (Too many corporate > pollution secrets get revealed decades late for me.) But if I need > some water and a fountain is all there is, I'll drink out of the > fountain. > > And if you think it's tough tranlating the food directives for a > normie or even a pregnant normie, try adding diabetes to the > filters! I met with my OB's dieticians yesterday and have been > told to eat at least 15g of carbs every 2.5 hours, and at least 30 at > lunch and dinner. Yikes! (I'm only 6 weeks along, so cravings > certainly aren't hitting yet!) Well, we'll see how it goes, but I really > don't see how a minimum of 120g a day can be good for me OR > the baby. Oh, and at the same time they did say that it's not until > month 6 or so that you need to make sure you're adding that > extra 300 calories. Aargh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 Crimmine.. thats alot of carbs. I hit the carb craving wall here in the 8th week. I was freaking until I got on the scale and saw I had LOST weight (been on a plateau for a while). Read somehere that, even though yoru body is in fat storage mode you are also experiencing a significant increase in metabolism. That has to translate to cravings. I try to keep mine down but its hard (am not diabetic but was hypoglycemic before the band). Example: Today was in a marathon meeting in a hot stuffy noisy room. I took in my miso soup (with chunks of tofu even) and soybean crunchies (low salt lof fat roasts soy beans) I eat these slowly but got really miserable towards the end of 2 hours in the meeting.. so I begged off, ment back to my office and was getting clammy and pre- migrane-ish! I ate two saltines and it all felt better. I was NOT like this before pregnancy. I could go just protein all day with no ill effect. Now I have to watch it. Nika > Yeah, it can all get a little overwhelming. But remember, ten docs > in a room can't seem to agree on what to feed a " normal " patient > (the food pyramid debate), what to feed a cancer patient (the > macrobiotics debate), or what to feed a WLS patient (the > high-protein debate). So why should pregnancy be any different? > Personally, i think the lack of true understanding we have about > what our bodies need and how they use nutrients is shocking in > such a medically advanced age. But nutrition studies just don't > generate the big bucks that research on a potential new drug > does. > > So what do we do? Go for the middle on anything except > something that really bothers us, I suppose. Water quality > creeps me out, personally, so I much prefer bottled or filtered > water even if I'm not drinking it straight. (Too many corporate > pollution secrets get revealed decades late for me.) But if I need > some water and a fountain is all there is, I'll drink out of the > fountain. > > And if you think it's tough tranlating the food directives for a > normie or even a pregnant normie, try adding diabetes to the > filters! I met with my OB's dieticians yesterday and have been > told to eat at least 15g of carbs every 2.5 hours, and at least 30 at > lunch and dinner. Yikes! (I'm only 6 weeks along, so cravings > certainly aren't hitting yet!) Well, we'll see how it goes, but I really > don't see how a minimum of 120g a day can be good for me OR > the baby. Oh, and at the same time they did say that it's not until > month 6 or so that you need to make sure you're adding that > extra 300 calories. Aargh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 I think you made a valid point... We have all of these studies from top doctors and studies that were conducted but in a few years (we've all seen it) where their studies were not as supportive as once believed. I say take what you want and leave the rest.. in facets of life. I think key is moderation with everything. Shonda ~WAHM to Kaitlyn(5), e(3)~ PG #3 - EDD: 4/13/03 Come visit me at http://www.youravon.com/shondawarren/ Re: Food <PRE>You are so right about all these different studies. No one seems to agree what is best for us to eat. Shoshannah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 Cliff- Chemotherapy is used to try to control tumors if a patient has other medical problems that would make surgery too risky. Surgery rather than chemotherapy is still the first avenue of treatment in the case of colorectal cancer,however. Especially in early stages, survival from colorectal cancer following surgery is good and may be all that is necessary. Chemotherapy has its best effect when used to treat any small clumps of cells that may have spread but are still too small to detect. Masses in the intestinal tract that are untreated usually grow to obstruct the intestinal tract. This causes cause nausea and cramping and weight loss. Having gone through such a situation due to a non tumorous stricture in my intestine, I can assure you that is not not a pleasant thing. I am stage 4 and had surgery to remove my tumor after being diagnosed as stage 4 to try to prevent these complications. That was 16 mths ago. Although I had recurrance in my lymph nodes and remain on chemotherapy for control, I suspect that I would be in far worse condition if I had not had surgery. You do not make mention of having talked to an oncologist. Do you have one yet or have you only been talking with the surgeon? An oncologist is a vital person who can give you an overview of the situation better than most other specialists and usually helps coordinate care. You sound very worried about having assistance during recuperation from a surgery. I would suggest you talk with a social worker at the hospital, or at your oncologist's office. There are many groups who can provide suggestions and assistance for people such as you. Although I am a bit younger, 48, I firmly believe, watching many of my hospital ward floormates that age is not a disease. One 78 yr old was making the nurses dizzy she made so many laps around the nurses station pushing her IV pole along. My recovery from surgery was smooth and I was up and about walking a few miles a day within weeks of my release from the hospital. Since I am single, my sister came to stay with me for 1 week after each of my 2 surgeries. I had the incredible support of lots of coworkers who offered help if I ever needed it. Knowing that that help was available gave me great peace of mind. In truth I almost never needed to call on them, however, pretty much taking care of chemo and radiation therapy on my own. Although I would not count on nutrition or exercise for cure or long term control of cancer on their own, I believe they are great aids if not essential to a good result. Nutrition may well play an important role in prevention. Just as with blood pressure, diet and exercise may greatly reduce the risk of strokes or heart attacks in some people, but once you have a heart attack, most often some more conventional medication/surgery to get you stablized, with changes in nutrition and exercise helping in recovery and future problems. I believe cancer is much the same. Although some oncologists do not place much emphasis on nutrition, others work more closely with nutritionists. This is something to talk with your oncologist about. Contrary to popular opinion, some herbal remedies and nutritional supplements can cause complications, from increased risk of bleeding, to inactivation or unintended potentiation of other drugs. It is important to work with someone who is knowledgable if you are interested in persuing use of these. Exercise is also important. My surgeon told me that the better condition I was in, the more quickly I was likely to recover from surgery. My oncologist says the better my muscle mass and physical condition, the better I would be able to tolerate and respond to chemotherapy. It also improves fatigue and some studies show improvement in immune response. Best wishes, Kris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 See messages # 3062, 3274, 3562 and others from cliff1179.You should find these interesting. Hope this helps Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 See messages # 3062, 3274, 3562 and others from cliff1179.You should find these interesting. Hope this helps Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 Cliff: I hope you are sincere in asking for help,advice,or opinions from those who have been there,done that and are still fighting. If not,I pray you will receive a sign and heed it. God Bless Nick & jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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