Re: food log

[Guest guest]

Judy, I go back and forth with keeping a log for this same reason. One of the things I do sometimes is make a voice recording instead. There's a lot less temptation to calculate at the end (or middle) of the day.

From: Judy TSent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:23 PMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Food Log

I've been keeping a food log, as I've seen it recommended, but I'm wondering at what point it stops prompting me to evaluate the amount of food or automatically calculating the number of calories. I'm beginning to think I have an addiction to dieting, and it is harder to quit dieting than to come to a better relationship with food. All I'm journaling at present is the time, what food, hunger level before and after. But I'm having a really hard time not applying dieting math to it at the end of the day, and not judging the foods listed as "good" or "bad".Thoughts? Suggestions? Have you beaten this, and how long did it take? Judy

[Guest guest]

Judy, I go back and forth with keeping a log for this same reason. One of the things I do sometimes is make a voice recording instead. There's a lot less temptation to calculate at the end (or middle) of the day.

From: Judy TSent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:23 PMTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Subject: Food Log

I've been keeping a food log, as I've seen it recommended, but I'm wondering at what point it stops prompting me to evaluate the amount of food or automatically calculating the number of calories. I'm beginning to think I have an addiction to dieting, and it is harder to quit dieting than to come to a better relationship with food. All I'm journaling at present is the time, what food, hunger level before and after. But I'm having a really hard time not applying dieting math to it at the end of the day, and not judging the foods listed as "good" or "bad".Thoughts? Suggestions? Have you beaten this, and how long did it take? Judy

[Guest guest]

Judy, I never could journal or log - its just not something that works for me

(emotional reasons). You are right that such 'notes' are purely for a better

understanding for yourself alone. Amounts, how 'healthy' etc. tend to work

against that process. I also believe that if you note your emotional

state/feelings before and after eating X, this can add to the information

gathered.

BEST wishes and if its not a positive exercise for you, dump it ;-)

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> I've been keeping a food log, as I've seen it recommended, but I'm wondering

at what point it stops prompting me to evaluate the amount of food or

automatically calculating the number of calories.

>

> I'm beginning to think I have an addiction to dieting, and it is harder to

quit dieting than to come to a better relationship with food. All I'm journaling

at present is the time, what food, hunger level before and after. But I'm having

a really hard time not applying dieting math to it at the end of the day, and

not judging the foods listed as " good " or " bad " .

>

> Thoughts? Suggestions? Have you beaten this, and how long did it take? Judy

>

[Guest guest]

Judy, I never could journal or log - its just not something that works for me

(emotional reasons). You are right that such 'notes' are purely for a better

understanding for yourself alone. Amounts, how 'healthy' etc. tend to work

against that process. I also believe that if you note your emotional

state/feelings before and after eating X, this can add to the information

gathered.

BEST wishes and if its not a positive exercise for you, dump it ;-)

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> I've been keeping a food log, as I've seen it recommended, but I'm wondering

at what point it stops prompting me to evaluate the amount of food or

automatically calculating the number of calories.

>

> I'm beginning to think I have an addiction to dieting, and it is harder to

quit dieting than to come to a better relationship with food. All I'm journaling

at present is the time, what food, hunger level before and after. But I'm having

a really hard time not applying dieting math to it at the end of the day, and

not judging the foods listed as " good " or " bad " .

>

> Thoughts? Suggestions? Have you beaten this, and how long did it take? Judy

>

[Guest guest]

I have a huge aversion to food logs as it is.so diet mentality for me. I

couldn't even do it when I worked with Gillian, our moderator and IE coach. I

know some people have been successful in using it from the food anthropologist

mentality, but not me. Brings up too many " good,bad " feelings. I recently

started seeing an acupuncturist who working with me on some digestive issues and

asked me to write down 3 days of what I ate and was very difficult for me. I was

so fearful of criticism. Thank goodness he was gentle and very IE and said he

wasn't concerned with What I was eating but wanted me to really look at

my.relationship with food and pay attention to urges to emotionally over eat.

This new heightened awareness along with the acupuncture has helped along my

intuitive eating that much more.

So I say no to food logs and journals.

Alana

>

> Yes or no? That's the question.

>

> I always objected to them since they tend to throw me back into diet

> mentality, but now I have a problem that could make a food log useful

> after all.

>

> Today is a day that feels like " I could eat all the time " to me. I went

> through my day so far and came up with the stuff I ate so far. On one

> hand it seems " enough for the time of the day " , on the other hand " well,

> it's ok so far " and on a third hand I say to myself " that was too much "

> (I think mainly because there was something fatty and chocolate

> involved.)

>

> I have a huge problem trusting my body regarding hunger and fullness at

> the moment. Everything seems like " too much " while at the same time

> nothing feels " enough " . I think it might be helping to view it on paper.

>

> I'm still a bit hesitant though. I tend to go overboard with these food

> logs.

>

> s.

>

[Guest guest]

I have a huge aversion to food logs as it is.so diet mentality for me. I

couldn't even do it when I worked with Gillian, our moderator and IE coach. I

know some people have been successful in using it from the food anthropologist

mentality, but not me. Brings up too many " good,bad " feelings. I recently

started seeing an acupuncturist who working with me on some digestive issues and

asked me to write down 3 days of what I ate and was very difficult for me. I was

so fearful of criticism. Thank goodness he was gentle and very IE and said he

wasn't concerned with What I was eating but wanted me to really look at

my.relationship with food and pay attention to urges to emotionally over eat.

This new heightened awareness along with the acupuncture has helped along my

intuitive eating that much more.

So I say no to food logs and journals.

Alana

>

> Yes or no? That's the question.

>

> I always objected to them since they tend to throw me back into diet

> mentality, but now I have a problem that could make a food log useful

> after all.

>

> Today is a day that feels like " I could eat all the time " to me. I went

> through my day so far and came up with the stuff I ate so far. On one

> hand it seems " enough for the time of the day " , on the other hand " well,

> it's ok so far " and on a third hand I say to myself " that was too much "

> (I think mainly because there was something fatty and chocolate

> involved.)

>

> I have a huge problem trusting my body regarding hunger and fullness at

> the moment. Everything seems like " too much " while at the same time

> nothing feels " enough " . I think it might be helping to view it on paper.

>

> I'm still a bit hesitant though. I tend to go overboard with these food

> logs.

>

> s.

>

[Guest guest]

I don't keep mine every day but when I feel that I need it.

I created my own log.it includes hunger level and satisfaction leverl after

eating. I didn;'t create it with the already organized levele s(breakfast,

lunch, snack etc) but I do out the times when I eat as it helps me evaluate if i

could be eating because of a true physical need or because of emotional issues

or because of what I ate before had no nutritional value.

I also write feelings/ observations, etc. For intance, this morning I had a

small pancake: it satisfied my sweet tooth and need of carbs but the sweetness

left a bad taste in my mouth and it makes me thirsty. So bottom line, why put

carbs needs before long term effects?

I can send you mine if you send me an address

thanks

A

>

> Yes or no? That's the question.

>

> I always objected to them since they tend to throw me back into diet

> mentality, but now I have a problem that could make a food log useful

> after all.

>

> Today is a day that feels like " I could eat all the time " to me. I went

> through my day so far and came up with the stuff I ate so far. On one

> hand it seems " enough for the time of the day " , on the other hand " well,

> it's ok so far " and on a third hand I say to myself " that was too much "

> (I think mainly because there was something fatty and chocolate

> involved.)

>

> I have a huge problem trusting my body regarding hunger and fullness at

> the moment. Everything seems like " too much " while at the same time

> nothing feels " enough " . I think it might be helping to view it on paper.

>

> I'm still a bit hesitant though. I tend to go overboard with these food

> logs.

>

> s.

>

[Guest guest]

I don't keep mine every day but when I feel that I need it.

I created my own log.it includes hunger level and satisfaction leverl after

eating. I didn;'t create it with the already organized levele s(breakfast,

lunch, snack etc) but I do out the times when I eat as it helps me evaluate if i

could be eating because of a true physical need or because of emotional issues

or because of what I ate before had no nutritional value.

I also write feelings/ observations, etc. For intance, this morning I had a

small pancake: it satisfied my sweet tooth and need of carbs but the sweetness

left a bad taste in my mouth and it makes me thirsty. So bottom line, why put

carbs needs before long term effects?

I can send you mine if you send me an address

thanks

A

>

> Yes or no? That's the question.

>

> I always objected to them since they tend to throw me back into diet

> mentality, but now I have a problem that could make a food log useful

> after all.

>

> Today is a day that feels like " I could eat all the time " to me. I went

> through my day so far and came up with the stuff I ate so far. On one

> hand it seems " enough for the time of the day " , on the other hand " well,

> it's ok so far " and on a third hand I say to myself " that was too much "

> (I think mainly because there was something fatty and chocolate

> involved.)

>

> I have a huge problem trusting my body regarding hunger and fullness at

> the moment. Everything seems like " too much " while at the same time

> nothing feels " enough " . I think it might be helping to view it on paper.

>

> I'm still a bit hesitant though. I tend to go overboard with these food

> logs.

>

> s.

>

[Guest guest]

I don't keep mine every day but when I feel that I need it.

I created my own log.it includes hunger level and satisfaction leverl after

eating. I didn;'t create it with the already organized levele s(breakfast,

lunch, snack etc) but I do out the times when I eat as it helps me evaluate if i

could be eating because of a true physical need or because of emotional issues

or because of what I ate before had no nutritional value.

I also write feelings/ observations, etc. For intance, this morning I had a

small pancake: it satisfied my sweet tooth and need of carbs but the sweetness

left a bad taste in my mouth and it makes me thirsty. So bottom line, why put

carbs needs before long term effects?

I can send you mine if you send me an address

thanks

A

>

> Yes or no? That's the question.

>

> I always objected to them since they tend to throw me back into diet

> mentality, but now I have a problem that could make a food log useful

> after all.

>

> Today is a day that feels like " I could eat all the time " to me. I went

> through my day so far and came up with the stuff I ate so far. On one

> hand it seems " enough for the time of the day " , on the other hand " well,

> it's ok so far " and on a third hand I say to myself " that was too much "

> (I think mainly because there was something fatty and chocolate

> involved.)

>

> I have a huge problem trusting my body regarding hunger and fullness at

> the moment. Everything seems like " too much " while at the same time

> nothing feels " enough " . I think it might be helping to view it on paper.

>

> I'm still a bit hesitant though. I tend to go overboard with these food

> logs.

>

> s.

>

[Guest guest]

I'm glad I wrote about this.You've all been very helpful with your points of view and I'm getting some good ideas. Maybe I can try a not food log for awhile and just journal hunger-satisfaction levels and times, since that is what matters to me now.

[Guest guest]

I'm glad I wrote about this.You've all been very helpful with your points of view and I'm getting some good ideas. Maybe I can try a not food log for awhile and just journal hunger-satisfaction levels and times, since that is what matters to me now.

[Guest guest]

I keep a log to track my sodium (doctor's request). I could turn off calories but I mostly find it as a hmm. I do this on my smart phone.

I don't keep mine every day but when I feel that I need it.

I created my own log.it includes hunger level and satisfaction leverl after eating. I didn;'t create it with the already organized levele s(breakfast, lunch, snack etc) but I do out the times when I eat as it helps me evaluate if i could be eating because of a true physical need or because of emotional issues or because of what I ate before had no nutritional value.

I also write feelings/ observations, etc. For intance, this morning I had a small pancake: it satisfied my sweet tooth and need of carbs but the sweetness left a bad taste in my mouth and it makes me thirsty. So bottom line, why put carbs needs before long term effects?

I can send you mine if you send me an address

thanks

A

>

> Yes or no? That's the question.

>

> I always objected to them since they tend to throw me back into diet

> mentality, but now I have a problem that could make a food log useful

> after all.

>

> Today is a day that feels like "I could eat all the time" to me. I went

> through my day so far and came up with the stuff I ate so far. On one

> hand it seems "enough for the time of the day", on the other hand "well,

> it's ok so far" and on a third hand I say to myself "that was too much"

> (I think mainly because there was something fatty and chocolate

> involved.)

>

> I have a huge problem trusting my body regarding hunger and fullness at

> the moment. Everything seems like "too much" while at the same time

> nothing feels "enough". I think it might be helping to view it on paper.

>

> I'm still a bit hesitant though. I tend to go overboard with these food

> logs.

>

> s.

>

[Guest guest]

I keep a log to track my sodium (doctor's request). I could turn off calories but I mostly find it as a hmm. I do this on my smart phone.

I don't keep mine every day but when I feel that I need it.

I created my own log.it includes hunger level and satisfaction leverl after eating. I didn;'t create it with the already organized levele s(breakfast, lunch, snack etc) but I do out the times when I eat as it helps me evaluate if i could be eating because of a true physical need or because of emotional issues or because of what I ate before had no nutritional value.

I also write feelings/ observations, etc. For intance, this morning I had a small pancake: it satisfied my sweet tooth and need of carbs but the sweetness left a bad taste in my mouth and it makes me thirsty. So bottom line, why put carbs needs before long term effects?

I can send you mine if you send me an address

thanks

A

>

> Yes or no? That's the question.

>

> I always objected to them since they tend to throw me back into diet

> mentality, but now I have a problem that could make a food log useful

> after all.

>

> Today is a day that feels like "I could eat all the time" to me. I went

> through my day so far and came up with the stuff I ate so far. On one

> hand it seems "enough for the time of the day", on the other hand "well,

> it's ok so far" and on a third hand I say to myself "that was too much"

> (I think mainly because there was something fatty and chocolate

> involved.)

>

> I have a huge problem trusting my body regarding hunger and fullness at

> the moment. Everything seems like "too much" while at the same time

> nothing feels "enough". I think it might be helping to view it on paper.

>

> I'm still a bit hesitant though. I tend to go overboard with these food

> logs.

>

> s.

>

[Guest guest]

I dont do calories at all

it is against IE

I write feelings/ emotions/ physical aspects

hunger level

satisfaction level

> > >

> > > Yes or no? That's the question.

> > >

> > > I always objected to them since they tend to throw me back into diet

> > > mentality, but now I have a problem that could make a food log useful

> > > after all.

> > >

> > > Today is a day that feels like " I could eat all the time " to me. I went

> > > through my day so far and came up with the stuff I ate so far. On one

> > > hand it seems " enough for the time of the day " , on the other hand " well,

> > > it's ok so far " and on a third hand I say to myself " that was too much "

> > > (I think mainly because there was something fatty and chocolate

> > > involved.)

> > >

> > > I have a huge problem trusting my body regarding hunger and fullness at

> > > the moment. Everything seems like " too much " while at the same time

> > > nothing feels " enough " . I think it might be helping to view it on paper.

> > >

> > > I'm still a bit hesitant though. I tend to go overboard with these food

> > > logs.

> > >

> > > s.

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I dont do calories at all

it is against IE

I write feelings/ emotions/ physical aspects

hunger level

satisfaction level

> > >

> > > Yes or no? That's the question.

> > >

> > > I always objected to them since they tend to throw me back into diet

> > > mentality, but now I have a problem that could make a food log useful

> > > after all.

> > >

> > > Today is a day that feels like " I could eat all the time " to me. I went

> > > through my day so far and came up with the stuff I ate so far. On one

> > > hand it seems " enough for the time of the day " , on the other hand " well,

> > > it's ok so far " and on a third hand I say to myself " that was too much "

> > > (I think mainly because there was something fatty and chocolate

> > > involved.)

> > >

> > > I have a huge problem trusting my body regarding hunger and fullness at

> > > the moment. Everything seems like " too much " while at the same time

> > > nothing feels " enough " . I think it might be helping to view it on paper.

> > >

> > > I'm still a bit hesitant though. I tend to go overboard with these food

> > > logs.

> > >

> > > s.

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Calories come by default with the sodium tracker. I think the thing with ie is that you are supposed to honor your bodies signals. The fAct that calories get tracked doesn't mean I'm "going against ie" unless I'm using the calories to "diet" and not listen to myself. Patti

I dont do calories at all

it is against IE

I write feelings/ emotions/ physical aspects

hunger level

satisfaction level

> > >

> > > Yes or no? That's the question.

> > >

> > > I always objected to them since they tend to throw me back into diet

> > > mentality, but now I have a problem that could make a food log useful

> > > after all.

> > >

> > > Today is a day that feels like "I could eat all the time" to me. I went

> > > through my day so far and came up with the stuff I ate so far. On one

> > > hand it seems "enough for the time of the day", on the other hand "well,

> > > it's ok so far" and on a third hand I say to myself "that was too much"

> > > (I think mainly because there was something fatty and chocolate

> > > involved.)

> > >

> > > I have a huge problem trusting my body regarding hunger and fullness at

> > > the moment. Everything seems like "too much" while at the same time

> > > nothing feels "enough". I think it might be helping to view it on paper.

> > >

> > > I'm still a bit hesitant though. I tend to go overboard with these food

> > > logs.

> > >

> > > s.

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Calories come by default with the sodium tracker. I think the thing with ie is that you are supposed to honor your bodies signals. The fAct that calories get tracked doesn't mean I'm "going against ie" unless I'm using the calories to "diet" and not listen to myself. Patti

I dont do calories at all

it is against IE

I write feelings/ emotions/ physical aspects

hunger level

satisfaction level

> > >

> > > Yes or no? That's the question.

> > >

> > > I always objected to them since they tend to throw me back into diet

> > > mentality, but now I have a problem that could make a food log useful

> > > after all.

> > >

> > > Today is a day that feels like "I could eat all the time" to me. I went

> > > through my day so far and came up with the stuff I ate so far. On one

> > > hand it seems "enough for the time of the day", on the other hand "well,

> > > it's ok so far" and on a third hand I say to myself "that was too much"

> > > (I think mainly because there was something fatty and chocolate

> > > involved.)

> > >

> > > I have a huge problem trusting my body regarding hunger and fullness at

> > > the moment. Everything seems like "too much" while at the same time

> > > nothing feels "enough". I think it might be helping to view it on paper.

> > >

> > > I'm still a bit hesitant though. I tend to go overboard with these food

> > > logs.

> > >

> > > s.

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I have been trying to keep a food journal but I find that I am very critical of what I eat. I started the jourmal because I wanted to be more conscious of the food that I ate throughout the day, the exercise that I did and my current weight. I still think that it is a good tool to use but don't know how to use it as a tool rather than a way of judging myself daily.

Adelle

[Guest guest]

Adelle

being non-judgmental to ourselves is a critical piece of this. Can you write

about those feelings too? I write little notes to myself, saying, " emotional

eating tonight (because XYZ happened), but it's OK... " or a little happy face

when I take a nap instead of a walk, for example.

I noticed that my eating got less intuitive when I didn't journal. Or when my

teen dd walked out of dinner in a huff and I ate hers too. Geneen roth talks

about making an " inquiry " into yourself with curiosity, rather than judgment.

(In her AudioBook: When Food is food and Love is Love)

just my .02. It's all hard!

Foggy

>

> I have been trying to keep a food journal but I find that I am very critical

of what I eat. I started the jourmal because I wanted to be more conscious of

the food that I ate throughout the day, the exercise that I did and my current

weight. I still think that it is a good tool to use but don't know how to use it

as a tool rather than a way of judging myself daily.

> Adelle

>

[Guest guest]

I am trying to be non-judgmental about my recent weight gain and overeating. I find it hard to do sometimes when I try something on in my closet and find that it is too tight. I will try the diary, that way I could focus on my feelings towards food and try to focus on the positive.

Thanks!

Adelle

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 8:42 AMSubject: Re: food log

Adellebeing non-judgmental to ourselves is a critical piece of this. Can you write about those feelings too? I write little notes to myself, saying, "emotional eating tonight (because XYZ happened), but it's OK..." or a little happy face when I take a nap instead of a walk, for example. I noticed that my eating got less intuitive when I didn't journal. Or when my teen dd walked out of dinner in a huff and I ate hers too. Geneen roth talks about making an "inquiry" into yourself with curiosity, rather than judgment. (In her AudioBook: When Food is food and Love is Love) just my .02. It's all hard!Foggy>> I have been trying to keep a food journal but I find that I am very

critical of what I eat. I started the jourmal because I wanted to be more conscious of the food that I ate throughout the day, the exercise that I did and my current weight. I still think that it is a good tool to use but don't know how to use it as a tool rather than a way of judging myself daily.> Adelle>

[Guest guest]

I am trying to be non-judgmental about my recent weight gain and overeating. I find it hard to do sometimes when I try something on in my closet and find that it is too tight. I will try the diary, that way I could focus on my feelings towards food and try to focus on the positive.

Thanks!

Adelle

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 8:42 AMSubject: Re: food log

Adellebeing non-judgmental to ourselves is a critical piece of this. Can you write about those feelings too? I write little notes to myself, saying, "emotional eating tonight (because XYZ happened), but it's OK..." or a little happy face when I take a nap instead of a walk, for example. I noticed that my eating got less intuitive when I didn't journal. Or when my teen dd walked out of dinner in a huff and I ate hers too. Geneen roth talks about making an "inquiry" into yourself with curiosity, rather than judgment. (In her AudioBook: When Food is food and Love is Love) just my .02. It's all hard!Foggy>> I have been trying to keep a food journal but I find that I am very

critical of what I eat. I started the jourmal because I wanted to be more conscious of the food that I ate throughout the day, the exercise that I did and my current weight. I still think that it is a good tool to use but don't know how to use it as a tool rather than a way of judging myself daily.> Adelle>

[Guest guest]

I am trying to be non-judgmental about my recent weight gain and overeating. I find it hard to do sometimes when I try something on in my closet and find that it is too tight. I will try the diary, that way I could focus on my feelings towards food and try to focus on the positive.

Thanks!

Adelle

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 8:42 AMSubject: Re: food log

Adellebeing non-judgmental to ourselves is a critical piece of this. Can you write about those feelings too? I write little notes to myself, saying, "emotional eating tonight (because XYZ happened), but it's OK..." or a little happy face when I take a nap instead of a walk, for example. I noticed that my eating got less intuitive when I didn't journal. Or when my teen dd walked out of dinner in a huff and I ate hers too. Geneen roth talks about making an "inquiry" into yourself with curiosity, rather than judgment. (In her AudioBook: When Food is food and Love is Love) just my .02. It's all hard!Foggy>> I have been trying to keep a food journal but I find that I am very

critical of what I eat. I started the jourmal because I wanted to be more conscious of the food that I ate throughout the day, the exercise that I did and my current weight. I still think that it is a good tool to use but don't know how to use it as a tool rather than a way of judging myself daily.> Adelle>

[Guest guest]

Hi. Regarding food logs, I'd like to ask the group, or those who know, at what point does keeping a food log turn into a diet? Isn't keeping a food log closely bordering on dieting? Tai

[Guest guest]

Hi. Regarding food logs, I'd like to ask the group, or those who know, at what point does keeping a food log turn into a diet? Isn't keeping a food log closely bordering on dieting? Tai

[Guest guest]

Well, Foggy, I'm glad someone agreed with me that it's hard! :-) I find it hard,, disconcerting, upsetting and annoying, to say the least. :-) I was doing it for a while, then something snapped and I'm almost, not quite, back to where I started. I just can't think any more. Too much. I'm tired. of thinking. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 8:42 AMSubject: Re: food log

Adelle

being non-judgmental to ourselves is a critical piece of this. Can you write about those feelings too? I write little notes to myself, saying, "emotional eating tonight (because XYZ happened), but it's OK..." or a little happy face when I take a nap instead of a walk, for example.

I noticed that my eating got less intuitive when I didn't journal. Or when my teen dd walked out of dinner in a huff and I ate hers too. Geneen roth talks about making an "inquiry" into yourself with curiosity, rather than judgment. (In her AudioBook: When Food is food and Love is Love)

just my .02. It's all hard!

Foggy

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> I have been trying to keep a food journal but I find that I am very critical of what I eat. I started the jourmal because I wanted to be more conscious of the food that I ate throughout the day, the exercise that I did and my current weight. I still think that it is a good tool to use but don't know how to use it as a tool rather than a way of judging myself daily.

> Adelle

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