Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 In a message dated 9/2/2005 11:33:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bbledsoe@... writes: My son's special forces reserve unit in Dallas is being sent down there. BEB I lost a student who is a TxNG MP to NOLA Monday (2 weeks left in class too he was doing well) and both my coordinator and my Asisistnt Instructor are deployed with TX DMAT 1 to SA. Backfill is becoming an iusseu even in education. Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI LNMolino@... (Office) (Cell Phone) (Office Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 See now everyone knows I can't spell or type as I hit send TOO fast on that last post. Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI LNMolino@... (Office) (Cell Phone) (Office Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Louis-- If instructors are needed and I can help, please let me know. Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Thanks Lou: I am a member of the Texas National Guard.I have not received orders, I am hoping that our illustroius governor gives us orders to go and assist them.The people in NO desperately need our help.I called my unit and no orders have come down. I am going to eagerly jump when orders are in hand. Regards,rabbiems > [Original Message] > > To: < > > Date: 9/2/2005 10:21:59 AM > Subject: Perspective > > Cut and pasted in its entirety from another list. > > From: " " > To: " Bill " > Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 02:51:35 -0600 > Subject: The PMAC will never host an important event like it did tonight > > > Little did I know what I would be doing following Hurricane Katrina's > aftermath but as I type right now, there won't be a more gratifying or more surreal > experience I went through tonight. We went up to the office today and held a > press conference regarding the postponement of the game and it was the right > decision. As the PMAC and Field House are being used as shelters we decided > as an office to do everything we could to help the situation. > At first, we were just supposed to make copies of this disaster relief form > for all of the people. The copiers will never print a document more important > than that. It's weird. Nearly 12 hours ago we were running off copies of > game notes for a football game that is now meaningless. We printed the copies > and carried them over to the Field House at 6:30 p.m. I wouldn't leave the area > for another 8 hours. > On the way back to the PMAC in a cart, it looked like the scene in the movie > Outbreak. FEMA officials, U.S. Marshalls, National Guard, and of course the > survivors. Black Hawks were carrying in victims who were stranded on roofs. > Buses rolled in from N.O. with other survivors. As and I rode back to > the PMAC, a lady fell out of her wheelchair and we scrambled to help her up. > We met Coach Miles and Coach Moffiit in the PMAC to see all the survivors > and it was the view of a hospital. Stretchers rolled in constantly and for the > first time in my life I saw someone die right in front of me. A man rolled in > from New Orleans and was badly injured on his head. 5 minutes later he was > dead. And that was the scene all night. What did we do, we started hauling in > supplies. And thousands of boxes of supplies. The CDC from Atlanta arrived > directing us what to do. > One of the U.S. Marshalls was on hand so the supplies could not become loot. > I asked him what his primary job was. He serves on the committee of counter > terrorism, but once he saw of the disaster, he donated his forces to come > help. He said the death toll could be nearing 10,000. It was sickening to hear > that. > After unloading supplies, I started putting together baby cribs and then IV > poles. Several of our fball players and Big Baby and Tasmin helped > us. At the same time, families and people strolled in. Mothers were giving > berth in the locker rooms. The auxiliary gym " Dungeon " was being used as a > morgue. I couldn't take myself down there to see it. > I worked from 8 pm until 2:45 am. Before I left three more buses rolled in > and they were almost out of room. People were standing outside, the lowest of > the low from NO. The smells, the sights were hard to take. > A man lying down on a cot asked me to come see him. He said, " I just need > someone to talk to, to tell my story because I have nobody and nothing left. He > turned out to be a retired military veteran. His story was what everybody was > saying. He thought he survived the worst, woke up this morning and the > levees broke. Within minutes water rushed into his house. He climbed to the attic, > smashed his way through the roof and sat there for hours. He was completely > sunburned and exhausted. Nearly 12 hours later a chopper rescued him and here > he was. > We finished the night hauling boxes of body bags and more were on the way. > As we left, a man was strolled in on a stretcher and scarily enough he > suffered gunshots. The paramedic said he was shot several times because a looter or > a convict needed his boat and he wouldn't give it to him. Another man with > him said it was " an uncivilized society no better than Iraq down there right > now. " A few minutes later he was unconcious and later pronounced dead. I then > left as they were strolling a 3 year old kid in on a stretcher. I couldn't > take it anymore. > That was the scene at the PMAC and it gives me a new perspective on things. > For those of you who I haven't been able to get in touch with because of > phone service, I pray you are safe. Send me an email to let me know. God bless. > Bill > LSU Sports Information > > > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI > LNMolino@... > (Office) > (Cell Phone) > (Office Fax) > > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " > > The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the > author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or > organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I > specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its > stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials > retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the > original author. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Thanks Lou: I am a member of the Texas National Guard.I have not received orders, I am hoping that our illustroius governor gives us orders to go and assist them.The people in NO desperately need our help.I called my unit and no orders have come down. I am going to eagerly jump when orders are in hand. Regards,rabbiems > [Original Message] > > To: < > > Date: 9/2/2005 10:21:59 AM > Subject: Perspective > > Cut and pasted in its entirety from another list. > > From: " " > To: " Bill " > Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 02:51:35 -0600 > Subject: The PMAC will never host an important event like it did tonight > > > Little did I know what I would be doing following Hurricane Katrina's > aftermath but as I type right now, there won't be a more gratifying or more surreal > experience I went through tonight. We went up to the office today and held a > press conference regarding the postponement of the game and it was the right > decision. As the PMAC and Field House are being used as shelters we decided > as an office to do everything we could to help the situation. > At first, we were just supposed to make copies of this disaster relief form > for all of the people. The copiers will never print a document more important > than that. It's weird. Nearly 12 hours ago we were running off copies of > game notes for a football game that is now meaningless. We printed the copies > and carried them over to the Field House at 6:30 p.m. I wouldn't leave the area > for another 8 hours. > On the way back to the PMAC in a cart, it looked like the scene in the movie > Outbreak. FEMA officials, U.S. Marshalls, National Guard, and of course the > survivors. Black Hawks were carrying in victims who were stranded on roofs. > Buses rolled in from N.O. with other survivors. As and I rode back to > the PMAC, a lady fell out of her wheelchair and we scrambled to help her up. > We met Coach Miles and Coach Moffiit in the PMAC to see all the survivors > and it was the view of a hospital. Stretchers rolled in constantly and for the > first time in my life I saw someone die right in front of me. A man rolled in > from New Orleans and was badly injured on his head. 5 minutes later he was > dead. And that was the scene all night. What did we do, we started hauling in > supplies. And thousands of boxes of supplies. The CDC from Atlanta arrived > directing us what to do. > One of the U.S. Marshalls was on hand so the supplies could not become loot. > I asked him what his primary job was. He serves on the committee of counter > terrorism, but once he saw of the disaster, he donated his forces to come > help. He said the death toll could be nearing 10,000. It was sickening to hear > that. > After unloading supplies, I started putting together baby cribs and then IV > poles. Several of our fball players and Big Baby and Tasmin helped > us. At the same time, families and people strolled in. Mothers were giving > berth in the locker rooms. The auxiliary gym " Dungeon " was being used as a > morgue. I couldn't take myself down there to see it. > I worked from 8 pm until 2:45 am. Before I left three more buses rolled in > and they were almost out of room. People were standing outside, the lowest of > the low from NO. The smells, the sights were hard to take. > A man lying down on a cot asked me to come see him. He said, " I just need > someone to talk to, to tell my story because I have nobody and nothing left. He > turned out to be a retired military veteran. His story was what everybody was > saying. He thought he survived the worst, woke up this morning and the > levees broke. Within minutes water rushed into his house. He climbed to the attic, > smashed his way through the roof and sat there for hours. He was completely > sunburned and exhausted. Nearly 12 hours later a chopper rescued him and here > he was. > We finished the night hauling boxes of body bags and more were on the way. > As we left, a man was strolled in on a stretcher and scarily enough he > suffered gunshots. The paramedic said he was shot several times because a looter or > a convict needed his boat and he wouldn't give it to him. Another man with > him said it was " an uncivilized society no better than Iraq down there right > now. " A few minutes later he was unconcious and later pronounced dead. I then > left as they were strolling a 3 year old kid in on a stretcher. I couldn't > take it anymore. > That was the scene at the PMAC and it gives me a new perspective on things. > For those of you who I haven't been able to get in touch with because of > phone service, I pray you are safe. Send me an email to let me know. God bless. > Bill > LSU Sports Information > > > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI > LNMolino@... > (Office) > (Cell Phone) > (Office Fax) > > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " > > The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the > author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or > organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I > specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its > stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials > retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the > original author. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 My son's special forces reserve unit in Dallas is being sent down there. BEB _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Borenstein Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 11:09 AM To: Subject: RE: Perspective Thanks Lou: I am a member of the Texas National Guard.I have not received orders, I am hoping that our illustroius governor gives us orders to go and assist them.The people in NO desperately need our help.I called my unit and no orders have come down. I am going to eagerly jump when orders are in hand. Regards,rabbiems > [Original Message] > > To: < > > Date: 9/2/2005 10:21:59 AM > Subject: Perspective > > Cut and pasted in its entirety from another list. > > From: " " > To: " Bill " > Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 02:51:35 -0600 > Subject: The PMAC will never host an important event like it did tonight > > > Little did I know what I would be doing following Hurricane Katrina's > aftermath but as I type right now, there won't be a more gratifying or more surreal > experience I went through tonight. We went up to the office today and held a > press conference regarding the postponement of the game and it was the right > decision. As the PMAC and Field House are being used as shelters we decided > as an office to do everything we could to help the situation. > At first, we were just supposed to make copies of this disaster relief form > for all of the people. The copiers will never print a document more important > than that. It's weird. Nearly 12 hours ago we were running off copies of > game notes for a football game that is now meaningless. We printed the copies > and carried them over to the Field House at 6:30 p.m. I wouldn't leave the area > for another 8 hours. > On the way back to the PMAC in a cart, it looked like the scene in the movie > Outbreak. FEMA officials, U.S. Marshalls, National Guard, and of course the > survivors. Black Hawks were carrying in victims who were stranded on roofs. > Buses rolled in from N.O. with other survivors. As and I rode back to > the PMAC, a lady fell out of her wheelchair and we scrambled to help her up. > We met Coach Miles and Coach Moffiit in the PMAC to see all the survivors > and it was the view of a hospital. Stretchers rolled in constantly and for the > first time in my life I saw someone die right in front of me. A man rolled in > from New Orleans and was badly injured on his head. 5 minutes later he was > dead. And that was the scene all night. What did we do, we started hauling in > supplies. And thousands of boxes of supplies. The CDC from Atlanta arrived > directing us what to do. > One of the U.S. Marshalls was on hand so the supplies could not become loot. > I asked him what his primary job was. He serves on the committee of counter > terrorism, but once he saw of the disaster, he donated his forces to come > help. He said the death toll could be nearing 10,000. It was sickening to hear > that. > After unloading supplies, I started putting together baby cribs and then IV > poles. Several of our fball players and Big Baby and Tasmin helped > us. At the same time, families and people strolled in. Mothers were giving > berth in the locker rooms. The auxiliary gym " Dungeon " was being used as a > morgue. I couldn't take myself down there to see it. > I worked from 8 pm until 2:45 am. Before I left three more buses rolled in > and they were almost out of room. People were standing outside, the lowest of > the low from NO. The smells, the sights were hard to take. > A man lying down on a cot asked me to come see him. He said, " I just need > someone to talk to, to tell my story because I have nobody and nothing left. He > turned out to be a retired military veteran. His story was what everybody was > saying. He thought he survived the worst, woke up this morning and the > levees broke. Within minutes water rushed into his house. He climbed to the attic, > smashed his way through the roof and sat there for hours. He was completely > sunburned and exhausted. Nearly 12 hours later a chopper rescued him and here > he was. > We finished the night hauling boxes of body bags and more were on the way. > As we left, a man was strolled in on a stretcher and scarily enough he > suffered gunshots. The paramedic said he was shot several times because a looter or > a convict needed his boat and he wouldn't give it to him. Another man with > him said it was " an uncivilized society no better than Iraq down there right > now. " A few minutes later he was unconcious and later pronounced dead. I then > left as they were strolling a 3 year old kid in on a stretcher. I couldn't > take it anymore. > That was the scene at the PMAC and it gives me a new perspective on things. > For those of you who I haven't been able to get in touch with because of > phone service, I pray you are safe. Send me an email to let me know. God bless. > Bill > LSU Sports Information > > > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI > LNMolino@... > (Office) > (Cell Phone) > (Office Fax) > > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " > > The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the > author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or > organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I > specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its > stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials > retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the > original author. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Dno't woryr Luo, Nodoby noitced. Mike > Re: Perspective > > > See now everyone knows I can't spell or type as I hit send TOO > fast on that > last post. > > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI > LNMolino@... > (Office) > (Cell Phone) > (Office Fax) > > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " > > The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the > author and the > author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or > organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or > associated with unless I > specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is > intended only for its > stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials > retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the > public domain by the > original author. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 I take it the gentlemen is not an EMS person. Not to be cynical, but the kind of stuff he describes is something we see everyday. Just spend a night at The Tubs (Ben Taub Hospital) in Houston and you'll see that and worse. Perhaps your friend will now have a concept of what EMS folks deal with each and every day and tell his friends. I hate that he has had to go through this, and I applaud him for his humanity, but I also wish he had taken all his football players to the Morgue and let them wander among the corpses, smell them, look at their wounds, and contemplate what death is like. One Sunday morning in Mexico City I accompanied a med student friend to the Medical Examiner's Morgue. He made extra money assisting with autopsies every weekend. When we got there, I was almost overwhelmed by the smell and the sheer numbers of corpses. They were stacked everywhere, in the halls, on top of each other, in the autopsy rooms (the refrigerators were full) and, by actual count, there were 57 of them who had met their maker over the last 24 hours from trauma or other than natural causes. I got to see a lot that day, and I'll never forget it. But it's not unusual, and the next weekend---same thing. Why am I reciting this? Because the average person is SO INSULATED from the horrors of life that we deal with daily that they have no concept of what it's about. While I regret every loss of life in NOLA, perhaps this event will serve to bring home to some folks who have lived in ivory towers just what life on the streets is all about. A good friend's son just got deployed to Iraq, and in two weeks his Humvee has been blown up by an IED, his unit has been attacked by mortars almost every night, he has come under fire daily and shot back at numerous folks. His life is on the line every minute. Now, while I realize that there are many folks in NOLA who simply could not find a way to leave, there were plenty of others who could have and did not. I'm sorry about them and their loss of life and property. But what's happening there is no different from what's happening all over the world in other places. Only now it's us it's happening to. We have lead charmed lives here in this great country. Maybe it's time we started thinking about the security of our nation in earnest. Not just our security from those who hate us, but our ability to respond to natural disasters. God forbid that a terrorist act that might disrupt another urban area happen on the heels of this one. What would we do? Whine? What I see from this incident is a nation that is complacent, soft, lazy, and collectively dumb. We blew it, and it's not just our politicians who blew it. It's we, ourselves, who blew it by continually placing our greed for creature comforts over the welfare of our nation. As I have said before on here, I grew up during WW II at a time when the whole nation was on a war footing. Every single man, woman and child were intimately involved in the war effort in some way. I remember mashing tin cans so that they could be recycled, and I remember food rationing, gasoline rationing, the inability to buy tires, shoes, and even the money changed. There were no copper pennies because all the copper was needed for the war effort. Ladies met weekly to make bandages out of old sheets and clothing. Almost every family took in a soldier at some time or another. The times were hard, I know, but there was a wonderful sense of community and a joy in doing what we could do for the war effort. We didn't have television, but when a major event happened, loudspeakers were set up behind the post office, and everybody in town gathered to listen to President Roosevelt or Winston Churchill speak. I remember some of those speeches. These folks knew how to make a speech. They didn't giggle and smirk while they were speaking, and they rallied the people in ways I have never seen since. I remember Roosevelt saying, " The only thing we have to fear is fear itself, " and Churchill saying, " We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills, we shall never surrender. " I remember my grandfather reading that quote to us at Sunday dinner. He emphasized the part about " we shall defend [ourselves], whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills, WE SHALL NEVER SURRENDER. " I remember the day Roosevelt died, and everybody was crying. And then Truman, who had been kept completely in the dark about the atomic bomb, made the decision to end the war. Most of you have no idea what I'm talking about because not since then has our country been unified in fighting a war. In fact, since then we have never fought a war with the sole purpose of winning at whatever cost. We went in to Korea as a " police action " and Truman refused to turn MacArthur loose on the Chinese. We went into Viet Nam without a clear goal, and we got run out with our tail between our legs because we had no plan to win. Now, we are in the second Iraq war. We could have won the first one but our politicians decided not to. We now are told that we must stay the course in Iraq II, but we have neither committed the troops nor the resources necessary to win it. And our leaders have led us to believe that we can still maintain our soft, cushy existence at home while sending troops to do a job that they lack the tools to accomplish. We are not on war status. Other than the families who have Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, Air Force, Coast Guard, and CIA personnel on the front lines, we are unconcerned. We leave these uncomfortable things to others, and we don't want to think about what is really happening. Our politicians refuse to let us see the coffins of dead soldiers being returned to us because they want to maintain the illusion that nothing unusual is going on, we're winning, and we'll be out of there someday. One prominent politician scoffed at the notion that we would be in Iraq very long, stating that the whole thing would be over in 5 days or 5 weeks. That was a long time ago. Another one stated that we would be greeted with rose petals. Well, we've been greeted with mortars, IEDs and rocket fire. Still, our politicians are unwilling to tell us the truth. We need many more troops, more hardware, and more resolve. We need the draft. We are so short of manpower that we're unable to handle a natural disaster at the same time we're fighting a foreign war. What would happen if a devastating earthquake hit California tomorrow? What would happen if North Korea decided to attack South Korea? We could not possibly respond to those situations with our present resources. We're using National Guard as front line soldiers in Iraq, and they are not around to defend the homeland or deal with natural disasters. Not only that, our government didn't even have a list of available placed to send refugees (YES, REFUGEES. That's what they ARE.). We, the most powerful country in the world cannot even handle a natural disaster today without fucking it up. Our leaders created a bureaucracy, Homeland Security, that is an agency without a rudder, that has spent billions of dollars without ONE THING to show for it at the local level, and it is responsible for the botching of the response to Katrina. But Congress and the President deserve just as much blame. We get the government we deserve because we vote for who governs us. Most of us do not bother to vote. So those who didn't vote have no room to gripe. But for those of us who do, let's for once hold our politicians' feet to the fire. Let's get up close and personal with them and challenge them to prove to us that they've got the brains and the will to do what needs to happen in this country next election. I'm not a fan of any political party. I happen to think that professional politicians, of whatever party, are scum, and the lowest form of blood sucking life. I will vote for the person who can show some leadership. So far, nobody in the federal government has showed a rat turd's worth of leadership. If you love your country, get involved. I am encouraged by what the people of Houston are doing. I'm sure that Texas will make us proud in the coming weeks. We're special folks in Texas, and we'll do what has to be done. It would be nice if we had some leaders to lead us, but even without them, we'll do the right thing. But this will not be over for a long time, and we'd damn well better be thinking about getting our country ready for the next crisis. It will be along long before we're ready for it. Gene G. And moderators, if you don't like my pithy language, grow up! I'm only using language our kids use at school. GG > Cut and pasted in its entirety from another list. > > From: " " > To: " Bill " > Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 02:51:35 -0600 > Subject: The PMAC will never host an important event like it did tonight > > > Little did I know what I would be doing following Hurricane Katrina's > aftermath but as I type right now, there won't be a more gratifying or more > surreal > experience I went through tonight. We went up to the office today and held > a > press conference regarding the postponement of the game and it was the > right > decision. As the PMAC and Field House are being used as shelters we decided > as an office to do everything we could to help the situation. > At first, we were just supposed to make copies of this disaster relief form > for all of the people. The copiers will never print a document more > important > than that. It's weird. Nearly 12 hours ago we were running off copies of > game notes for a football game that is now meaningless. We printed the > copies > and carried them over to the Field House at 6:30 p.m. I wouldn't leave the > area > for another 8 hours. > On the way back to the PMAC in a cart, it looked like the scene in the > movie > Outbreak. FEMA officials, U.S. Marshalls, National Guard, and of course the > survivors. Black Hawks were carrying in victims who were stranded on roofs. > Buses rolled in from N.O. with other survivors. As and I rode back > to > the PMAC, a lady fell out of her wheelchair and we scrambled to help her > up. > We met Coach Miles and Coach Moffiit in the PMAC to see all the survivors > and it was the view of a hospital. Stretchers rolled in constantly and for > the > first time in my life I saw someone die right in front of me. A man rolled > in > from New Orleans and was badly injured on his head. 5 minutes later he was > dead. And that was the scene all night. What did we do, we started hauling > in > supplies. And thousands of boxes of supplies. The CDC from Atlanta arrived > directing us what to do. > One of the U.S. Marshalls was on hand so the supplies could not become > loot. > I asked him what his primary job was. He serves on the committee of counter > terrorism, but once he saw of the disaster, he donated his forces to come > help. He said the death toll could be nearing 10,000. It was sickening to > hear > that. > After unloading supplies, I started putting together baby cribs and then IV > poles. Several of our fball players and Big Baby and Tasmin helped > us. At the same time, families and people strolled in. Mothers were giving > berth in the locker rooms. The auxiliary gym " Dungeon " was being used as a > morgue. I couldn't take myself down there to see it. > I worked from 8 pm until 2:45 am. Before I left three more buses rolled in > and they were almost out of room. People were standing outside, the lowest > of > the low from NO. The smells, the sights were hard to take. > A man lying down on a cot asked me to come see him. He said, " I just need > someone to talk to, to tell my story because I have nobody and nothing > left. He > turned out to be a retired military veteran. His story was what everybody > was > saying. He thought he survived the worst, woke up this morning and the > levees broke. Within minutes water rushed into his house. He climbed to the > attic, > smashed his way through the roof and sat there for hours. He was completely > sunburned and exhausted. Nearly 12 hours later a chopper rescued him and > here > he was. > We finished the night hauling boxes of body bags and more were on the way. > As we left, a man was strolled in on a stretcher and scarily enough he > suffered gunshots. The paramedic said he was shot several times because a > looter or > a convict needed his boat and he wouldn't give it to him. Another man with > him said it was " an uncivilized society no better than Iraq down there > right > now. " A few minutes later he was unconscious and later pronounced dead. I > then > left as they were strolling a 3 year old kid in on a stretcher. I couldn't > take it anymore. > That was the scene at the PMAC and it gives me a new perspective on things. > For those of you who I haven't been able to get in touch with because of > phone service, I pray you are safe. Send me an email to let me know. God > bless. > Bill > LSU Sports Information > > > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI > LNMolino@... >  (Office) > (Cell Phone) > (Office Fax) > > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " > > The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and > the > author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or > organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with > unless I > specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only > for its > stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials > retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by > the > original author. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 Gene, I have bit my tongue and hoped as a usual lurker that someone else would call you on this but as none have I feel compelled to do so. I have the utmost respect for you, your experience, your credentials and your dedication to EMS but...... Some of the things you state are exactly what I will bet that you have spent your 20-30 + years in EMS fighting against. How many times have you heard It took so long for the ambulance to get her " or " they got here and then needed more people to haul grandpa down 4 flights of stairs, they should have all come at once " . My point is, no one can plan for this sort of catastrophe. When looking at it in hindsight, even in this case, it is not easy to say what could have been done differently. The President and Congress of the United States could no more have looked at the areas affected and predicted a MAJOR hurricane to do this sort of devastation than you could look at the guy eating at Mcs and decide to preposition outside when he goes down. What you are asking of the United States Government is System Status Management a nationwide scale. Predict what will happen, where it will happen, plan for it and respond immediately! No more possible on a statewide or regional scale as it is on a local scale. Regardless of whether you claim a political party or not, this reeks of partisan rhetoric. If President Bush's crystal ball had been functioning properly and he would have foreseen the destruction mostly caused by a levee break and sent troops in....they would be dead!!! The levee around New Orleans has been there for a hundred years, it has been improved upon and modified and studied and criticized. How can anyone say that what happened only happened because of a cut in funding over the last few years. If this same storm had hit 7 years ago, would everyone blame Clinton?? It is a natural disaster of epic proportions. No amount of planning, positioning or funding could prevent it. The entire nation needs to cut the crap, cut the blaming, cut the partisanship. The administration of the US government, state government or local government could no more plan for this than your county EMS could plan for 2 full arrests, a major accident with 7 critical injuries and an emergency 72% O2 sat on a nasal cannula at the local nursing home. You couldn't handle it you can't plan for it and you can't anticipate it...You just have to deal with it. Again, I have the utmost respect for you. I just think we as a country need to quit finger pointing, blaming and accusing and get down to the business at hand. Cut the partisanship, racism and accusatory BS and just get to work. Chambers, LP -- The PMAC will never host an important event like it did tonight > > > Little did I know what I would be doing following Hurricane Katrina's > aftermath but as I type right now, there won't be a more gratifying or more > surreal > experience I went through tonight. We went up to the office today and held > a > press conference regarding the postponement of the game and it was the > right > decision. As the PMAC and Field House are being used as shelters we decided > as an office to do everything we could to help the situation. > At first, we were just supposed to make copies of this disaster relief form > for all of the people. The copiers will never print a document more > important > than that. It's weird. Nearly 12 hours ago we were running off copies of > game notes for a football game that is now meaningless. We printed the > copies > and carried them over to the Field House at 6:30 p.m. I wouldn't leave the > area > for another 8 hours. > On the way back to the PMAC in a cart, it looked like the scene in the > movie > Outbreak. FEMA officials, U.S. Marshalls, National Guard, and of course the > survivors. Black Hawks were carrying in victims who were stranded on roofs > Buses rolled in from N.O. with other survivors. As and I rode back > to > the PMAC, a lady fell out of her wheelchair and we scrambled to help her > up. > We met Coach Miles and Coach Moffiit in the PMAC to see all the survivors > and it was the view of a hospital. Stretchers rolled in constantly and for > the > first time in my life I saw someone die right in front of me. A man rolled > in > from New Orleans and was badly injured on his head. 5 minutes later he was > dead. And that was the scene all night. What did we do, we started hauling > in > supplies. And thousands of boxes of supplies. The CDC from Atlanta arrived > directing us what to do. > One of the U.S. Marshalls was on hand so the supplies could not become > loot. > I asked him what his primary job was. He serves on the committee of counter > terrorism, but once he saw of the disaster, he donated his forces to come > help. He said the death toll could be nearing 10,000. It was sickening to > hear > that. > After unloading supplies, I started putting together baby cribs and then IV > poles. Several of our fball players and Big Baby and Tasmin helped > us. At the same time, families and people strolled in. Mothers were giving > berth in the locker rooms. The auxiliary gym " Dungeon " was being used as a > morgue. I couldn't take myself down there to see it. > I worked from 8 pm until 2:45 am. Before I left three more buses rolled in > and they were almost out of room. People were standing outside, the lowest > of > the low from NO. The smells, the sights were hard to take. > A man lying down on a cot asked me to come see him. He said, " I just need > someone to talk to, to tell my story because I have nobody and nothing > left. He > turned out to be a retired military veteran. His story was what everybody > was > saying. He thought he survived the worst, woke up this morning and the > levees broke. Within minutes water rushed into his house. He climbed to the > attic, > smashed his way through the roof and sat there for hours. He was completely > sunburned and exhausted. Nearly 12 hours later a chopper rescued him and > here > he was. > We finished the night hauling boxes of body bags and more were on the way > As we left, a man was strolled in on a stretcher and scarily enough he > suffered gunshots. The paramedic said he was shot several times because a > looter or > a convict needed his boat and he wouldn't give it to him. Another man with > him said it was " an uncivilized society no better than Iraq down there > right > now. " A few minutes later he was unconscious and later pronounced dead. I > then > left as they were strolling a 3 year old kid in on a stretcher. I couldn t > take it anymore. > That was the scene at the PMAC and it gives me a new perspective on things. > For those of you who I haven't been able to get in touch with because of > phone service, I pray you are safe. Send me an email to let me know. God > bless. > Bill > LSU Sports Information > > > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI > LNMolino@... > (Office) > (Cell Phone) > (Office Fax) > > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " > > The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and > the > author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or > organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with > unless I > specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only > for its > stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials > retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by > the > original author. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 Gene, I have bit my tongue and hoped as a usual lurker that someone else would call you on this but as none have I feel compelled to do so. I have the utmost respect for you, your experience, your credentials and your dedication to EMS but...... Some of the things you state are exactly what I will bet that you have spent your 20-30 + years in EMS fighting against. How many times have you heard It took so long for the ambulance to get her " or " they got here and then needed more people to haul grandpa down 4 flights of stairs, they should have all come at once " . My point is, no one can plan for this sort of catastrophe. When looking at it in hindsight, even in this case, it is not easy to say what could have been done differently. The President and Congress of the United States could no more have looked at the areas affected and predicted a MAJOR hurricane to do this sort of devastation than you could look at the guy eating at Mcs and decide to preposition outside when he goes down. What you are asking of the United States Government is System Status Management a nationwide scale. Predict what will happen, where it will happen, plan for it and respond immediately! No more possible on a statewide or regional scale as it is on a local scale. Regardless of whether you claim a political party or not, this reeks of partisan rhetoric. If President Bush's crystal ball had been functioning properly and he would have foreseen the destruction mostly caused by a levee break and sent troops in....they would be dead!!! The levee around New Orleans has been there for a hundred years, it has been improved upon and modified and studied and criticized. How can anyone say that what happened only happened because of a cut in funding over the last few years. If this same storm had hit 7 years ago, would everyone blame Clinton?? It is a natural disaster of epic proportions. No amount of planning, positioning or funding could prevent it. The entire nation needs to cut the crap, cut the blaming, cut the partisanship. The administration of the US government, state government or local government could no more plan for this than your county EMS could plan for 2 full arrests, a major accident with 7 critical injuries and an emergency 72% O2 sat on a nasal cannula at the local nursing home. You couldn't handle it you can't plan for it and you can't anticipate it...You just have to deal with it. Again, I have the utmost respect for you. I just think we as a country need to quit finger pointing, blaming and accusing and get down to the business at hand. Cut the partisanship, racism and accusatory BS and just get to work. Chambers, LP -- The PMAC will never host an important event like it did tonight > > > Little did I know what I would be doing following Hurricane Katrina's > aftermath but as I type right now, there won't be a more gratifying or more > surreal > experience I went through tonight. We went up to the office today and held > a > press conference regarding the postponement of the game and it was the > right > decision. As the PMAC and Field House are being used as shelters we decided > as an office to do everything we could to help the situation. > At first, we were just supposed to make copies of this disaster relief form > for all of the people. The copiers will never print a document more > important > than that. It's weird. Nearly 12 hours ago we were running off copies of > game notes for a football game that is now meaningless. We printed the > copies > and carried them over to the Field House at 6:30 p.m. I wouldn't leave the > area > for another 8 hours. > On the way back to the PMAC in a cart, it looked like the scene in the > movie > Outbreak. FEMA officials, U.S. Marshalls, National Guard, and of course the > survivors. Black Hawks were carrying in victims who were stranded on roofs > Buses rolled in from N.O. with other survivors. As and I rode back > to > the PMAC, a lady fell out of her wheelchair and we scrambled to help her > up. > We met Coach Miles and Coach Moffiit in the PMAC to see all the survivors > and it was the view of a hospital. Stretchers rolled in constantly and for > the > first time in my life I saw someone die right in front of me. A man rolled > in > from New Orleans and was badly injured on his head. 5 minutes later he was > dead. And that was the scene all night. What did we do, we started hauling > in > supplies. And thousands of boxes of supplies. The CDC from Atlanta arrived > directing us what to do. > One of the U.S. Marshalls was on hand so the supplies could not become > loot. > I asked him what his primary job was. He serves on the committee of counter > terrorism, but once he saw of the disaster, he donated his forces to come > help. He said the death toll could be nearing 10,000. It was sickening to > hear > that. > After unloading supplies, I started putting together baby cribs and then IV > poles. Several of our fball players and Big Baby and Tasmin helped > us. At the same time, families and people strolled in. Mothers were giving > berth in the locker rooms. The auxiliary gym " Dungeon " was being used as a > morgue. I couldn't take myself down there to see it. > I worked from 8 pm until 2:45 am. Before I left three more buses rolled in > and they were almost out of room. People were standing outside, the lowest > of > the low from NO. The smells, the sights were hard to take. > A man lying down on a cot asked me to come see him. He said, " I just need > someone to talk to, to tell my story because I have nobody and nothing > left. He > turned out to be a retired military veteran. His story was what everybody > was > saying. He thought he survived the worst, woke up this morning and the > levees broke. Within minutes water rushed into his house. He climbed to the > attic, > smashed his way through the roof and sat there for hours. He was completely > sunburned and exhausted. Nearly 12 hours later a chopper rescued him and > here > he was. > We finished the night hauling boxes of body bags and more were on the way > As we left, a man was strolled in on a stretcher and scarily enough he > suffered gunshots. The paramedic said he was shot several times because a > looter or > a convict needed his boat and he wouldn't give it to him. Another man with > him said it was " an uncivilized society no better than Iraq down there > right > now. " A few minutes later he was unconscious and later pronounced dead. I > then > left as they were strolling a 3 year old kid in on a stretcher. I couldn t > take it anymore. > That was the scene at the PMAC and it gives me a new perspective on things. > For those of you who I haven't been able to get in touch with because of > phone service, I pray you are safe. Send me an email to let me know. God > bless. > Bill > LSU Sports Information > > > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI > LNMolino@... > (Office) > (Cell Phone) > (Office Fax) > > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " > > The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and > the > author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or > organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with > unless I > specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only > for its > stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials > retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by > the > original author. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 Gene, I have bit my tongue and hoped as a usual lurker that someone else would call you on this but as none have I feel compelled to do so. I have the utmost respect for you, your experience, your credentials and your dedication to EMS but...... Some of the things you state are exactly what I will bet that you have spent your 20-30 + years in EMS fighting against. How many times have you heard It took so long for the ambulance to get her " or " they got here and then needed more people to haul grandpa down 4 flights of stairs, they should have all come at once " . My point is, no one can plan for this sort of catastrophe. When looking at it in hindsight, even in this case, it is not easy to say what could have been done differently. The President and Congress of the United States could no more have looked at the areas affected and predicted a MAJOR hurricane to do this sort of devastation than you could look at the guy eating at Mcs and decide to preposition outside when he goes down. What you are asking of the United States Government is System Status Management a nationwide scale. Predict what will happen, where it will happen, plan for it and respond immediately! No more possible on a statewide or regional scale as it is on a local scale. Regardless of whether you claim a political party or not, this reeks of partisan rhetoric. If President Bush's crystal ball had been functioning properly and he would have foreseen the destruction mostly caused by a levee break and sent troops in....they would be dead!!! The levee around New Orleans has been there for a hundred years, it has been improved upon and modified and studied and criticized. How can anyone say that what happened only happened because of a cut in funding over the last few years. If this same storm had hit 7 years ago, would everyone blame Clinton?? It is a natural disaster of epic proportions. No amount of planning, positioning or funding could prevent it. The entire nation needs to cut the crap, cut the blaming, cut the partisanship. The administration of the US government, state government or local government could no more plan for this than your county EMS could plan for 2 full arrests, a major accident with 7 critical injuries and an emergency 72% O2 sat on a nasal cannula at the local nursing home. You couldn't handle it you can't plan for it and you can't anticipate it...You just have to deal with it. Again, I have the utmost respect for you. I just think we as a country need to quit finger pointing, blaming and accusing and get down to the business at hand. Cut the partisanship, racism and accusatory BS and just get to work. Chambers, LP -- The PMAC will never host an important event like it did tonight > > > Little did I know what I would be doing following Hurricane Katrina's > aftermath but as I type right now, there won't be a more gratifying or more > surreal > experience I went through tonight. We went up to the office today and held > a > press conference regarding the postponement of the game and it was the > right > decision. As the PMAC and Field House are being used as shelters we decided > as an office to do everything we could to help the situation. > At first, we were just supposed to make copies of this disaster relief form > for all of the people. The copiers will never print a document more > important > than that. It's weird. Nearly 12 hours ago we were running off copies of > game notes for a football game that is now meaningless. We printed the > copies > and carried them over to the Field House at 6:30 p.m. I wouldn't leave the > area > for another 8 hours. > On the way back to the PMAC in a cart, it looked like the scene in the > movie > Outbreak. FEMA officials, U.S. Marshalls, National Guard, and of course the > survivors. Black Hawks were carrying in victims who were stranded on roofs > Buses rolled in from N.O. with other survivors. As and I rode back > to > the PMAC, a lady fell out of her wheelchair and we scrambled to help her > up. > We met Coach Miles and Coach Moffiit in the PMAC to see all the survivors > and it was the view of a hospital. Stretchers rolled in constantly and for > the > first time in my life I saw someone die right in front of me. A man rolled > in > from New Orleans and was badly injured on his head. 5 minutes later he was > dead. And that was the scene all night. What did we do, we started hauling > in > supplies. And thousands of boxes of supplies. The CDC from Atlanta arrived > directing us what to do. > One of the U.S. Marshalls was on hand so the supplies could not become > loot. > I asked him what his primary job was. He serves on the committee of counter > terrorism, but once he saw of the disaster, he donated his forces to come > help. He said the death toll could be nearing 10,000. It was sickening to > hear > that. > After unloading supplies, I started putting together baby cribs and then IV > poles. Several of our fball players and Big Baby and Tasmin helped > us. At the same time, families and people strolled in. Mothers were giving > berth in the locker rooms. The auxiliary gym " Dungeon " was being used as a > morgue. I couldn't take myself down there to see it. > I worked from 8 pm until 2:45 am. Before I left three more buses rolled in > and they were almost out of room. People were standing outside, the lowest > of > the low from NO. The smells, the sights were hard to take. > A man lying down on a cot asked me to come see him. He said, " I just need > someone to talk to, to tell my story because I have nobody and nothing > left. He > turned out to be a retired military veteran. His story was what everybody > was > saying. He thought he survived the worst, woke up this morning and the > levees broke. Within minutes water rushed into his house. He climbed to the > attic, > smashed his way through the roof and sat there for hours. He was completely > sunburned and exhausted. Nearly 12 hours later a chopper rescued him and > here > he was. > We finished the night hauling boxes of body bags and more were on the way > As we left, a man was strolled in on a stretcher and scarily enough he > suffered gunshots. The paramedic said he was shot several times because a > looter or > a convict needed his boat and he wouldn't give it to him. Another man with > him said it was " an uncivilized society no better than Iraq down there > right > now. " A few minutes later he was unconscious and later pronounced dead. I > then > left as they were strolling a 3 year old kid in on a stretcher. I couldn t > take it anymore. > That was the scene at the PMAC and it gives me a new perspective on things. > For those of you who I haven't been able to get in touch with because of > phone service, I pray you are safe. Send me an email to let me know. God > bless. > Bill > LSU Sports Information > > > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI > LNMolino@... > (Office) > (Cell Phone) > (Office Fax) > > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " > > The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and > the > author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or > organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with > unless I > specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only > for its > stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials > retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by > the > original author. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 Thank you for your nice words, but they're probably not deserved. Perhaps I should expand a little on my comments. Read down. GG > Gene, I have bit my tongue and hoped as a usual lurker that someone else > would call you on this but as none have I feel compelled to do so. > Well, thanks for doing it. I welcome the opportunity to expand upon my previous thoughts. > > I have the utmost respect for you, your experience, your credentials and > your dedication to EMS but...... > > Some of the things you state are exactly what I will bet that you have spent > your 20-30 + years in EMS fighting against. How many times have you heard > It took so long for the ambulance to get her "  or " they got here and then > needed more people to haul grandpa down 4 flights of stairs, they should > have all come at once " . > > My point is, no one can plan for this sort of catastrophe. When looking at > it in hindsight, even in this case, it is not easy to say what could have > been done differently. > You are correct that it's not easy, but in this case, there was a plethora of information coming in from NOAA and military sources that was, essentially ign ored by not only the feds but the local authorities. That this was a disastrous storm was no surprise. There was ample time to have taken better measures to deal with it. And that's documented in NOAA's records. So it's not a guess like SSM is. FEMA was created for the exact purpose of planning for this kind of catastrophe. That it failed is the fault of those who run the ship, in this case, W. Bush. It is the law of the sea that the Captain of the Ship is responsible for everything. Bush appointed a doofus, Brown, to FEMA, because he was a political asslicker, and his former expertise was in running horse shows. Also, Bush created the HSA and fractured FEMA and put it under the head of the agency, Chertoff, who has absolutely no experience or expertise in running a disaster response. So there was a double failure. Bush and his team created a flawed department. We see that now, and now it will have to be fixed. > > The President and Congress of the United States could no more have looked at > the areas affected and predicted a MAJOR hurricane to do this sort of > devastation than you could look at the guy eating at Mcs and decide to > preposition outside when he goes down. > Wrong. This hurricane has been predicted for years, and there is ample data on record to support that conclusion. For 40 years it has been discussed, written about, and examined, that the levees of NOLA could not withstand a hurricane of this magnitude. The LA Congressional delegation has tried for years to get money appropriated for the Corps of Engineers to fix this problem, but Congress has never done it. Even Rush Limbaugh said this on his show today. > > What you are asking of the United States Government is System Status > Management a nationwide scale. Predict what will happen, where it will > happen, plan for it and respond immediately! No more possible on a > statewide or regional scale as it is on a local scale. Regardless of > whether you claim a political party or not, this reeks of partisan rhetoric. > If President Bush's crystal ball had been functioning properly and he would > have foreseen the destruction mostly caused by a levee break and sent troops > in....they would be dead!!! > Not partisan. The U. S. Government, in the form of NOAA and the military had ample warning of this storm, and they had no plan to deal with it, nor did they deal with it. Neither did the Governor of Louisiana nor the Mayor of New Orleans. All are responsible, but to say that this couldn't have been planned for better is to ignore the facts. All knew 36 hours ahead of time that this was going to be a bad, bad storm. > > The levee around New Orleans has been there for a hundred years, it has been > improved upon and modified and studied and criticized. How can anyone say > that what happened only happened because of a cut in funding over the last > few years. If this same storm had hit 7 years ago, would everyone blame > Clinton?? > Yes, and rightly so. For 40 years folks have known that the levees were not secure. The fault goes right through every administration, Democrat or Republican. No president, starting with Nixon, has pushed this, and no administration, Republican or Democrat has done it's duty, so all the goddam politicians are guilty as sin. This is not a partisan thing. It is a practical thing. This could have been prevented, and the planning could have been done and carried out competently. Instead, Congress chose to pass a highway bill with a zillion pork barrel projects, including one bridge to an uninhabited island in Alaska that would have paid for about half the needed repairs to the levees. > > It is a natural disaster of epic proportions. No amount of planning, > positioning or funding could prevent it. > True that it was a disaster of epic proportions. You cannot prevent the storm, but you can plan, position, and fund for it. This has NOT been done. Many, many things were not done that could have been, beginning with mobilizing the school busses and city busses of NOLA to evacuate those who couldn't drive out, doing more to force them out, and so forth. This was essentially a local failure and the Mayor is responsible. > > The entire nation needs to cut the crap, cut the blaming, cut the > partisanship. > Agreed. We need now to think about how we might respond if a terrorist exploded a nuclear bomb in Los Angeles, New York, or any other place. If we can't get troops in in less than 3-5 days, then we're in deep shit. There is plenty of blame to go around. It lies not just with W, although he just happens to be the Commander in Chief at this time, but with the whole government from local to federal. > > The administration of the US government, state government or local > government could no more plan for this than your county EMS could plan for 2 > full arrests, a major accident with 7 critical injuries and an emergency 72% > O2 sat on a nasal cannula at the local nursing home. You couldn't handle it > you can't plan for it and you can't anticipate it...You just have to deal > with it. > There will always be failures of a plan, but I am more optimistic than you that things can be planned and carried out better than they have been. First, we need to cut through the mass of red tape that requires the feds to wait until a state governor requests aid before starting it. The President must have the authority to order preparations, staging, and immediate response. The whole scheme of things is wrong. Congress needs to respond to this immediately. And I hear that the President and the Governor of LA sparred for 24 hours over who was going to control the national guard. That needs to be fixed. The Guv wanted to be able to use the troops to declare martial law, and the Pres didn't. At least that is my understanding. Somebody should have declared martial law the minute the goddam thing hit and moved the troops in. Bush didn't have the authority to do that, but neither did his administration do anything to fix that flaw in the law. [Also neither did Clinton, Bush 41, Readan, or Nixon]. We must cut through this muddle or we're going to suffer one disaster after another. Don't think for one minute that OBL and his followers have not been tracking each and every mistake made, and preparing to capitalize on it. I grew up during WW II, and I can tell you that our country rose to the occasion in a magnificent way then, because we had real leaders. Bush is no leader. I don't know whether or not you've been in the military or not, but I have, in an infantry company, and the thought of following GWB into battle horrifies me. This man just doesn't get it. He's no leader. He inspires embarrassment every time he opens his mouth. He can't even talk about a disaster without making that little frat-boy sneering grin that he has. He is a man who is incapable of empathy. If you want to see how a real leader would handle a situation, go look at the films of lin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill speaking in times of disaster. These men were leaders. W is a joke. About the only politician on the scene now who has any leadership qualities is McCain. It's a pity that the Bush Republicans ran the campaign against him, led by Karl Rove, which tried to paint him as a coward and a traiter. But that's all they know how to do. Even Bush 41 is a better man, by far, than W. He's a true hero. Too bad he and Bar spoiled little W and made him the wimp he is. > > Again, I have the utmost respect for you. I just think we as a country need > to quit finger pointing, blaming and accusing and get down to the business > at hand. Cut the partisanship, racism and accusatory BS and just get to > work. > > Chambers, LP > > You're right that we have to get to work, but if we don't fix the problems, then we'll just repeat the same debacle the next time something happens. If your plumbing has a leak, you don't just say, well, leaks happen, and nobody can plan for them, so we'll just live with it. Nope. We fix it. We must fix the flaws in our government. That means getting serious about being at war with terrorists, getting serious about planning and executing plans when a disaster happens, and involving every citizen in the defense of our homeland. Criticism of government is not bad, it is good. You might want to recall that in Soviet Russia and today in China and North Korea, dissent is not allo wed. No one dared to say that the Emperor's New Clothes didn't exist. Now, we have folks who are so partisan that they think that it's wrong to criticize our politicians because " they're doing the best they can. " Well, if that's not enough, then they merit our criticism. We as Americans MUST hold our leaders to the standards that are necessary to insure the security of our country. Our current government falls far short, IN MY OPINION. Every patriot owes the duty to question authority, question the leadership, and demand that the right things be done. Right now, we are mired in mediocrity in government at all levels. Our country can do SO MUCH BETTER than it is doing now, but we cannot do it without leadership. We lack leadership, and as a result, we are in a heap of trouble. Right now, if you question the President, in some quarters you are branded as a traitor, one who does not support our troops, and every other nasty thing that a guy like Karl Rove can think up. That's exactly why now is the time to question the President. He has the mandate, the authority, and the power. Either he uses it intelligently and forcefully or he falls short. He has fallen short. I love my country, and I support the troops. I don't like our President. I don't think he either has supported our troops nor has he protected our country. Like it or not, that's my position. And there's plenty of military people who will say the same thing. Read Hackworth's work, Hunt's and so forth. These are all credentialed military men who tell it like it is, and it IS that W has screwed the military from day one. Oh, and I'm armed and dangerous and I'll kick yer ass if you git too contrary with me. Just kidding. Really. OK. Your turn. GG. > > -- The PMAC will never host an important event like it did tonight > > > > > > Little did I know what I would be doing following Hurricane Katrina's > > aftermath but as I type right now, there won't be a more gratifying or > more > > surreal > > experience I went through tonight. We went up to the office today and > held > > a > > press conference regarding the postponement of the game and it was the > > right > > decision. As the PMAC and Field House are being used as shelters we > decided > > as an office to do everything we could to help the situation. > > At first, we were just supposed to make copies of this disaster relief > form > > for all of the people. The copiers will never print a document more > > important > > than that. It's weird. Nearly 12 hours ago we were running off copies of > > game notes for a football game that is now meaningless. We printed the > > copies > > and carried them over to the Field House at 6:30 p.m. I wouldn't leave > the > > area > > for another 8 hours. > > On the way back to the PMAC in a cart, it looked like the scene in the > > movie > > Outbreak. FEMA officials, U.S. Marshalls, National Guard, and of course > the > > survivors. Black Hawks were carrying in victims who were stranded on roofs > > > Buses rolled in from N.O. with other survivors. As and I rode back > > to > > the PMAC, a lady fell out of her wheelchair and we scrambled to help her > > up. > > We met Coach Miles and Coach Moffiit in the PMAC to see all the survivors > > and it was the view of a hospital. Stretchers rolled in constantly and > for > > the > > first time in my life I saw someone die right in front of me. A man > rolled > > in > > from New Orleans and was badly injured on his head. 5 minutes later he > was > > dead. And that was the scene all night. What did we do, we started > hauling > > in > > supplies. And thousands of boxes of supplies. The CDC from Atlanta > arrived > > directing us what to do. > > One of the U.S. Marshalls was on hand so the supplies could not become > > loot. > > I asked him what his primary job was. He serves on the committee of > counter > > terrorism, but once he saw of the disaster, he donated his forces to come > > help. He said the death toll could be nearing 10,000. It was sickening to > > hear > > that. > > After unloading supplies, I started putting together baby cribs and then > IV > > poles. Several of our fball players and Big Baby and Tasmin > helped > > us. At the same time, families and people strolled in. Mothers were > giving > > berth in the locker rooms. The auxiliary gym " Dungeon " was being used as > a > > morgue. I couldn't take myself down there to see it. > > I worked from 8 pm until 2:45 am. Before I left three more buses rolled > in > > and they were almost out of room. People were standing outside, the > lowest > > of > > the low from NO. The smells, the sights were hard to take. > > A man lying down on a cot asked me to come see him. He said, " I just need > > someone to talk to, to tell my story because I have nobody and nothing > > left. He > > turned out to be a retired military veteran. His story was what everybody > > was > > saying. He thought he survived the worst, woke up this morning and the > > levees broke. Within minutes water rushed into his house. He climbed to > the > > attic, > > smashed his way through the roof and sat there for hours. He was > completely > > sunburned and exhausted. Nearly 12 hours later a chopper rescued him and > > here > > he was. > > We finished the night hauling boxes of body bags and more were on the way > > > As we left, a man was strolled in on a stretcher and scarily enough he > > suffered gunshots. The paramedic said he was shot several times because a > > looter or > > a convict needed his boat and he wouldn't give it to him. Another man > with > > him said it was " an uncivilized society no better than Iraq down there > > right > > now. " A few minutes later he was unconscious and later pronounced dead. I > > then > > left as they were strolling a 3 year old kid in on a stretcher. I couldn > t > > take it anymore. > > That was the scene at the PMAC and it gives me a new perspective on > things. > > For those of you who I haven't been able to get in touch with because of > > phone service, I pray you are safe. Send me an email to let me know. God > > bless. > > Bill > > LSU Sports Information > > > > > > Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET > > FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI > > LNMolino@... > >  (Office) > > (Cell Phone) > > (Office Fax) > > > > " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " > > > > The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and > > the > > author alone. 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Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Amen, Brother Gene- When the disaster agency can't handle a disaster, the border security people can't secure the border, the EMS support budget for the agency totals 4% (gee, I thought life preservation - citizens and responders- would be worth more than THAT) and over $400,000 in furnishings goes into the new headquarters for the TSA and they can't seem to detect knives and guns in carry on luggage, there is a fundamental failure that puts US ( and U.S.) at risk. " Service is love made visible. Friendship is love made personal. Kindness is love made tangible. Giving is love made believable " - Anonymous Larry in Houston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 I'd like to interject a few things here... Mike Gandy said: > FEMA was created for the exact purpose of planning for this kind of > catastrophe. That it failed is the fault of those who run the ship, in this case, > W. Bush. It is the law of the sea that the Captain of the Ship is > responsible for everything. Bush appointed a doofus, Brown, to FEMA, because he > was a political asslicker, and his former expertise was in running horse shows. > Also, Bush created the HSA and fractured FEMA and put it under the head of > the agency, Chertoff, who has absolutely no experience or expertise in running > a disaster response. So there was a double failure. Bush and his team > created a flawed department. We see that now, and now it will have to be fixed. M> FEMA is quite broken. The concept of Homeland Security is quite broken. The idea should be to take what we have now and mold it into something more like a Public Safety and Security Agency (PSSA) that's responsible for the USFA, NFA, EMS and federal law enforcement/working with state and local law enforcement. This needs to be an " operational " agency with a planning branch, not a planning agency with an operational branch. Training must be a priority - for federal, state and local agencies. Large-scale drills must be done, done again, and re-done. Inter-agency communitcaions MUST become a priority (more than just the 5 NPSPAC channels on each band). Every public safety agency in the US should be required by federal law to purchase communications systems and gear that are interoperability-capable. This will force manufacturers to make products that work with each other, but still allow for local choice in vendor and system - as long as it's capable of working with other agencies (and yes, you can still create " secure " systems, like Austin/ County's APCO-25 system that only allows authorized radios onto the system - you'd just have to require that an assisting agency be able to provide digital ID's for the radios to be added to a system, but I digress...). Gandy said: > There will always be failures of a plan, but I am more optimistic than you > that things can be planned and carried out better than they have been. First, > we need to cut through the mass of red tape that requires the feds to wait > until a state governor requests aid before starting it. The President must > have the authority to order preparations, staging, and immediate response. The > whole scheme of things is wrong. Congress needs to respond to this M> Agreed. And local agencies need to be able to request assistance from other agencies immediately, while still being " overseen " by the federal agency that will end up funding it. Allowing local agencies to make the initial requests, then transferring the request authority to the state, and then to the federal level allows resources that are needed to start coming, and gradually puts more controls in place as the disaster begins to be mitigated. Requiring it to start from the top every time is a bad idea that obviously doesn't work... > immediately. And I hear that the President and the Governor of LA sparred for 24 > hours over who was going to control the national guard. That needs to be fixed. > The Guv wanted to be able to use the troops to declare martial law, and the > Pres didn't. At least that is my understanding. Somebody should have M> Which is in violation of federal law, at least the way the Mayor wanted to use them. The Posse Commitatus act prohobits the military from engaging in law enforcement activities. There are other, better trained resources for providing law enforcement, and the model for that works - other regional law enforcement officers are brought in, sworn in as Special Deputy US Marshalls, which gives them law enforcement powers at a federal level. The state, either through existing law or executive order, gives federal agents the powers to enforce local laws. Voila, a law enforcement presence. Not that the military can't keep the peace and enforce civil order - that they can in fact do... and using both at once seems to be the best of both worlds. > We must cut through this muddle or we're going to suffer one disaster after > another. Don't think for one minute that OBL and his followers have not been > tracking each and every mistake made, and preparing to capitalize on it. M> Except that if I'd have been OBL et al, I'd have attacked RIGHT THEN. Spread our resources thin, made it impossible to keep up. It's a testament to the enforcers and protecters we have in place now that we didn't get attacked. But be ready... Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 I'd like to interject a few things here... Mike Gandy said: > FEMA was created for the exact purpose of planning for this kind of > catastrophe. That it failed is the fault of those who run the ship, in this case, > W. Bush. It is the law of the sea that the Captain of the Ship is > responsible for everything. Bush appointed a doofus, Brown, to FEMA, because he > was a political asslicker, and his former expertise was in running horse shows. > Also, Bush created the HSA and fractured FEMA and put it under the head of > the agency, Chertoff, who has absolutely no experience or expertise in running > a disaster response. So there was a double failure. Bush and his team > created a flawed department. We see that now, and now it will have to be fixed. M> FEMA is quite broken. The concept of Homeland Security is quite broken. The idea should be to take what we have now and mold it into something more like a Public Safety and Security Agency (PSSA) that's responsible for the USFA, NFA, EMS and federal law enforcement/working with state and local law enforcement. This needs to be an " operational " agency with a planning branch, not a planning agency with an operational branch. Training must be a priority - for federal, state and local agencies. Large-scale drills must be done, done again, and re-done. Inter-agency communitcaions MUST become a priority (more than just the 5 NPSPAC channels on each band). Every public safety agency in the US should be required by federal law to purchase communications systems and gear that are interoperability-capable. This will force manufacturers to make products that work with each other, but still allow for local choice in vendor and system - as long as it's capable of working with other agencies (and yes, you can still create " secure " systems, like Austin/ County's APCO-25 system that only allows authorized radios onto the system - you'd just have to require that an assisting agency be able to provide digital ID's for the radios to be added to a system, but I digress...). Gandy said: > There will always be failures of a plan, but I am more optimistic than you > that things can be planned and carried out better than they have been. First, > we need to cut through the mass of red tape that requires the feds to wait > until a state governor requests aid before starting it. The President must > have the authority to order preparations, staging, and immediate response. The > whole scheme of things is wrong. Congress needs to respond to this M> Agreed. And local agencies need to be able to request assistance from other agencies immediately, while still being " overseen " by the federal agency that will end up funding it. Allowing local agencies to make the initial requests, then transferring the request authority to the state, and then to the federal level allows resources that are needed to start coming, and gradually puts more controls in place as the disaster begins to be mitigated. Requiring it to start from the top every time is a bad idea that obviously doesn't work... > immediately. And I hear that the President and the Governor of LA sparred for 24 > hours over who was going to control the national guard. That needs to be fixed. > The Guv wanted to be able to use the troops to declare martial law, and the > Pres didn't. At least that is my understanding. Somebody should have M> Which is in violation of federal law, at least the way the Mayor wanted to use them. The Posse Commitatus act prohobits the military from engaging in law enforcement activities. There are other, better trained resources for providing law enforcement, and the model for that works - other regional law enforcement officers are brought in, sworn in as Special Deputy US Marshalls, which gives them law enforcement powers at a federal level. The state, either through existing law or executive order, gives federal agents the powers to enforce local laws. Voila, a law enforcement presence. Not that the military can't keep the peace and enforce civil order - that they can in fact do... and using both at once seems to be the best of both worlds. > We must cut through this muddle or we're going to suffer one disaster after > another. Don't think for one minute that OBL and his followers have not been > tracking each and every mistake made, and preparing to capitalize on it. M> Except that if I'd have been OBL et al, I'd have attacked RIGHT THEN. Spread our resources thin, made it impossible to keep up. It's a testament to the enforcers and protecters we have in place now that we didn't get attacked. But be ready... Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 -- wegandy1938@... wrote: " FEMA was created for the exact purpose of planning for this kind of catastrophe. ... Also, Bush created the HSA and fractured FEMA and put it under the head of the agency, Chertoff, who has absolutely no experience or expertise in running a disaster response. So there was a double failure. Bush and his team created a flawed department. We see that now, and now it will have to be fixed. " Tom Ridge, as the original SecDHS, should have done more to maintain the 'all hazards' capability rather than the focus on terrorism. " Criticism of government is not bad, it is good. ...Every patriot owes the duty to question authority, question the leadership, and demand that the right things be done. " " To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. " - Theodore Roosevelt " The peace and welfare of this and coming generations of Americans will be secure only as we cling to the watchword of true patriotism: " Our country -- when right to be kept right; when wrong to be put right. " - Carl Schurz Lary RN LP Houston Texas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 -- wegandy1938@... wrote: " FEMA was created for the exact purpose of planning for this kind of catastrophe. ... Also, Bush created the HSA and fractured FEMA and put it under the head of the agency, Chertoff, who has absolutely no experience or expertise in running a disaster response. So there was a double failure. Bush and his team created a flawed department. We see that now, and now it will have to be fixed. " Tom Ridge, as the original SecDHS, should have done more to maintain the 'all hazards' capability rather than the focus on terrorism. " Criticism of government is not bad, it is good. ...Every patriot owes the duty to question authority, question the leadership, and demand that the right things be done. " " To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. " - Theodore Roosevelt " The peace and welfare of this and coming generations of Americans will be secure only as we cling to the watchword of true patriotism: " Our country -- when right to be kept right; when wrong to be put right. " - Carl Schurz Lary RN LP Houston Texas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 I like Browns head of FEMA background even better " Brown`s previous position was as a commissioner of the International Arabian Horse Association and he had no experience with disaster response until he was named FEMA director. " _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Gawd, I thought this was a joke until you posted that. No wonder we are knee-deep in the brown stuff. -Alfonso R. Ochoa > I like Browns head of FEMA background even better > > > > " Brown`s previous position was as a commissioner of the International > Arabian Horse Association and he had no experience with disaster response > until he was named FEMA director. " > > > > > > _____ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Who put him in office. The same guy (weekend warrior) who put us in a war. Neither one know what their doing. Henry " Alfonso R. Ochoa " wrote: > Gawd, I thought this was a joke until you posted that. No wonder we > are knee-deep in the brown stuff. > > -Alfonso R. Ochoa > > > > I like Browns head of FEMA background even better > > > > > > > > " Brown`s previous position was as a commissioner of the International > > Arabian Horse Association and he had no experience with disaster > response > > until he was named FEMA director. " > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Before circulating rumors that are not accurate I would suggest everyone view the following site. It will tell you exactly what Mr. Brown's prior experience is. http://www.fema.gov/about/bios/brown.shtm Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 -- " Mike Reynolds " wrote: Before circulating rumors that are not accurate I would suggest everyone view the following site. It will tell you exactly what Mr. Brown's prior experience is. http://www.fema.gov/about/bios/brown.shtm That only outlines his Federal employment. He was hired by Joe Allbaugh, former head of FEMA and GWB's campaign chairman. What did he do before? Check this out: From Tom Connelly to the Board of Directors: As the Board directed during our recent conference call, negotiations have been ongoing with Mike Brown in relation to his resignation. Attached is the final agreed upon separation agreement which Mike has executed and presented to us. He realized that this matter was going to go to the Board and he wanted to have signed it before it was actually presented. I plan to sign the agreement Monday at 4:00 p.m. Eastern Time, but in the meantime, if you wish to make any comments, please forward them to Joleen White and she will make sure we all see them. SEPARATION AGREEMENT I. PARTIES The Parties to this Agreement are: A. International Arabian Horse Association, a Colorado non-profit corporation, which is located in Arapahoe County, Colorado ( " IAHA " ); and B. D. Brown, an individual who is a resident of Boulder County, Colorado. II. RECITALS A. Mr. Brown is employed as the Judges and Stewards Commissioner of IAHA. B. Mr. Brown and IAHA are currently involved as co-defendants in litigation. C. Mr. Brown desires to resign from his employment with IAHA, and IAHA desires to accept Mr. Brown's resignation. However, in an attempt to accomplish an orderly transition for IAHA, the parties desire a gradual disengagement of the relationship so that Mr. Brown can complete his pending work and continue to assist in the defense of the pending litigation. III. COVENANTS In consideration of the mutual covenants set forth herein, and for other good and valuable consideration, the sufficiency of which the parties hereby acknowledge, the parties agree as follows: A. Upon execution of this Agreement by the parties, Mr. Brown will resign from his position with IAHA, effective January 31, 2001. B. Mr. Brown will employ his best efforts to conclude his work on pending matters during the month of September, 2000, and will assist in an orderly transition, and will continue to assist in the defense of litigation against him and/or IAHA relating to his work as Judges and Stewards Commissioner. C. Prior to January 31, 2001, Mr. Brown will use all of his accrued vacation time. D. IAHA will continue to pay to Mr. Brown his full salary, including benefits, through January 31, 2001. E. During the months of February, March and April, 2001, IAHA will pay Mr. Brown his full salary, as severance pay. F. Mr. Brown will continue to assist in the defense of litigation against him and/or IAHA relating to his work for IAHA as Judges and Stewards Commissioner, as reasonably requested by counsel for IAHA, unless reasonably objected to by counsel for Mr. Brown. G. IAHA will pay to Mr. Brown a consulting fee of $100 per hour for time he spends assisting in the defense of litigation after April 30, 2001, such fee to be paid within 30 days of the date services are billed to IAHA by Mr. Brown. H. IAHA will continue to provide and to pay for health insurance for Mr. Brown and his wife through October 31, 2001. I. By October 1, 2000, Mr. Brown will cause to be contributed from the D. Brown Legal Defense Fund Trust to the IAHA Legal Defense Fund the sum of $25,000. J. IAHA will, without limitation and to the fullest extent allowed by law, continue to indemnify Mr. Brown and to hold Mr. Brown harmless from all liabilities, obligations, claims, causes of action, or expenses of any kind, including reasonable attorneys' fees and costs, that may arise or be incurred by Mr. Brown arising out of the performance of his employment as Judges and Stewards Commissioner of IAHA, including his duties under the terms of this Separation Agreement. K. Mr. Brown further agrees to abide by the provisions of Paragraphs 17 and 18 his Employment Contract and the confidentiality requirements of Resolution 5-90. L. This Separation Agreement shall not in any way be construed as an admission by either party of any acts of wrongdoing whatsoever. The parties recognize that, due to the nature of Mr. Brown's duties as Judges and Stewards Commissioner, he has been the subject of numerous personal attacks, and that there have been numerous allegations made during the course of his employment that Mr. Brown engaged in conduct that would constitute cause for the termination of Brown's contract with IAHA. IAHA specifically acknowledges, however, that no cause exists to terminate Brown's contract with IAHA. M. The Parties hereby and forever release and discharge each other, their heirs and assigns, from any and all causes of action, actions, judgments, liens, damages, losses, claims, liabilities and demands whatsoever, whether known or unknown, which arose prior to the date of this Separation Agreement. N. Any dispute arising under this Separation Agreement shall be submitted to arbitration before the Judicial Arbiter Group in Denver, Colorado. In the event any arbitration is held pursuant to this Agreement, the arbitrator shall award the prevailing party his or its reasonable attorneys' fees and costs. O. This Separation Agreement sets forth the entire agreement between the parties hereto, and fully supersedes any and all prior agreements and understandings between the parties hereto pertaining to the subject matter hereof. P. The parties have each been represented by counsel in connection with this Separation Agreement and have read the entire Separation Agreement and understand each of the terms hereof. Q. Colorado law shall govern the interpretation of this Separation Agreement and the resolution of any dispute arising in connection herewith. R. No modification to this Separation Agreement will be effective, unless such modification is made in writing and signed by each of the parties hereto. S. In the event that any part of this Separation Agreement and General Release is determined to be void, or otherwise unlawful, the remaining portions hereof shall remain in full force and effect. Date: D. Brown International Arabian Horse Association http://www.awhitehorse.com/editorials/brown_resignation.html " Service is love made visible. Friendship is love made personal. Kindness is love made tangible. Giving is love made believable " - Anonymous Larry in Houston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 -- " Mike Reynolds " wrote: Before circulating rumors that are not accurate I would suggest everyone view the following site. It will tell you exactly what Mr. Brown's prior experience is. http://www.fema.gov/about/bios/brown.shtm Hmmm... what is this about a 'city councilman with emergency management oversight'? ALL city councilman have emergency management oversite...and animal control oversight...and EMS oversight... THAT IS WHAT A CITY COUNCILMAN DOES, or they DON'T get reelected! Interesting, NOT A WORD mentioned about a job he held for 11 years... CHeck this out: IT'S TIME TO FIRE MICHAEL BROWN....AGAIN. " The federal official in charge of the bungled New Orleans rescue was fired from his last private-sector job overseeing horse shows. And before joining the Federal Emergency Management Agency as a deputy director in 2001, GOP activist Mike Brown had no significant experience that would have qualified him for the position. The Oklahoman got the job through an old college friend who at the time was heading up FEMA. The agency, run by Brown since 2003, is now at the center of a growing fury over the handling of the New Orleans disaster. 'I look at FEMA and I shake my head,' said a furious Gov. Mitt Romney yesterday, calling the response `an embarrassment.' Brown - formerly an estates and family lawyer - this week has has made several shocking public admissions, including interviews where he suggested FEMA was unaware of the misery and desperation of refugees stranded at the New Orleans convention center. Before joining the Bush administration in 2001, Brown spent 11 years as the commissioner of judges and stewards for the International Arabian Horse Association, a breeders' and horse-show organization based in Colorado. `We do disciplinary actions, certification of (show trial) judges. We hold classes to train people to become judges and stewards. And we keep records,' explained a spokeswoman for the IAHA commissioner's office. `This was his full-time job . . . for 11 years,'she added. Brown was forced out of the position after a spate of lawsuits over alleged supervision failures. `He was asked to resign,'' Bill Pennington, president of the IAHA at the time, confirmed last night. " --Boston Herald. http://www.michaelgraham.com/ (not exactly a flaming liberal website) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Good OL' Boy syndrome at its' best. Henry wrote: Who put him in office. The same guy (weekend warrior) who put us in a war. Neither one know what their doing. Henry " Alfonso R. Ochoa " wrote: > Gawd, I thought this was a joke until you posted that. No wonder we > are knee-deep in the brown stuff. > > -Alfonso R. Ochoa > > > > I like Browns head of FEMA background even better > > > > > > > > " Brown`s previous position was as a commissioner of the International > > Arabian Horse Association and he had no experience with disaster > response > > until he was named FEMA director. " > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 I apparently jumped to his defense too quick. I just knew that his " only experience " was not just the Arabian horse organization. I do not believe that he was the best choice for the job and the newly assigned deputy will definitely help. However, I firmly believe that the federal response could have been much better, in New Orleans at least, if Mayor Blanco would have acted appropriately in requesting assistance in a timely manner. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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