Re: problem with antibiotics...

[Guest guest]

> Once again, I'm asking your help. My new gastroenterologist (sp?)

prescribed

> amoxicillan, biaxan, and prilosec for the H. Pylori that I was diagnosed

> with back in May. After a couple of days, I could hardly leave the

bathroom.

> Now, he wants to wait a week, then have me substitute flaginol (I may have

> the wrong spelling).

You probably mean Flagyl (metronidazole is the generic name) I had a course

of this once for another suspected condition, and my arthritis symptoms

improved, I hope it does the same for you! If I had only understood the

connection at the time....

A couple of the rheumatic members have been on a metronidazole protocol,

try a search of the archives at www. if you want to read how they

progressed on that. Joe Graff is one who has posted details about it, look

for his posts.

I think your doctor meant (just guessing here) is that disruption of gut

flora is not the only, or not the end issue (no pun intended -g-), with the

diarrhea. I am copying below a comment on the diarrhea from info on

amoxicillin at www.rxlist.com

~~~~begin quote~~~~~~~~

" Pseudomembranous colitis has been reported with nearly all antibacterial

agents, including amoxicillin, and may range in severity from mild to

life-threatening. Therefore, it is important to consider this diagnosis in

patients who present with diarrhea subsequent to the administration of

antibacterial agents.

Treatment with antibacterial agents alters the normal flora of the colon and

may permit overgrowth of clostridia. Studies indicate that a toxin produced

by Clostridium difficile is a primary cause of " antibiotic-associated

colitis. "

After the diagnosis of pseudomembranous colitis has been established,

appropriate therapeutic measures should be initiated. Mild cases of

pseudomembranous colitis usually respond to drug discontinuation alone. In

moderate to severe cases, consideration should be given to management with

fluids and electrolytes, protein supplementation, and treatment with an

antibacterial drug clinically effective against Clostridium difficile

colitis.

~~~~~~~~~~~~end quote~~~~~~~

And, if you look at the info both there, and in the rxlist info on flagyl,

you see that flagyl can cause candida overgrowth. IMHO, a good probiotic

is a good idea! My doctor did not think it was necessary when I started the

AP, but I am convinced it is, and am glad I take one, after reading of

other's experiences here. Why not ask your doctor if it would hurt to take

one, next time you see him. The concern from the rxlist info above may be

the reason he wants you to take the flagyl. Did he mention C. Difficile or

colitis at all?

{{{{{{{{{{{{{Lyn}}}}}}}}}}}} I'm sorry you are having such a bad time

lately. It can be a real roller-coaster with these diseases, and with life

in general, for sure!, no? I'm so grateful for this group at times like

this, when it feels like you have wandered into a tangled jungle of

uncertainty. Isn't it funny, how things can seem to be going relatively

well, and then suddenly the problems of life and/or medical problems

suddenly cast a shadow over all, and we wonder why and how we go on. Please

keep in mind that you *will* get back on that open road in the sun again,

and marvel at all the good things revealed, that you cannot see now in this

dark time. Hang on to that, Lyn, and it sounds like you have a good doc to

me, if you just keep prodding him to take action when you know it needs to

be taken. And try not to worry so about the kids, they will

survive!--because of and in spite of you. ; ) Liz G.

[Guest guest]

Hi Lyn,

Just wanted to concur with Liz's comments and add that if I don't take

an extremely good quality probiotic three times a day when on

antibiotics, I have trouble getting out of the bathroom, if you get my

drift so I'd strongly recommend you get on a probiotic. Hope you start

feeling better soon.

Hugs,

a Peden

Lyn B wrote:

>

> Hi -

>

> Once again, I'm asking your help. My new gastroenterologist (sp?) prescribed

> amoxicillan, biaxan, and prilosec for the H. Pylori that I was diagnosed

> with back in May. After a couple of days, I could hardly leave the bathroom...

[Guest guest]

Hi Lyn,

You might check my old post regarding Flagyll--it can be dangerous for a

percentage of folks. boy I hope things look up for you. felicidades, Felicia

Jesus' life didn't go well. He didn't reach

his earning potential. He didn't have the

respect of his colleagues. His friends

weren't loyal. His life wasn't long. He

didn't meet his soul mate. And he wasn't

understood by his mother. Yet we think we

deserve all those things because we are

so spiritual.