Re: potty training deaf child

[Guest guest]

,

What about the bowels? really wants to potty train but has no language,

but he takes his diaper off so I started putting him on the potty, we have a

little seat that goes over the toilet. He doesn't know how to indicate he has

to go. I like the idea about every 20 min. I was wondering how often I should

have him go in the potty. How did you teach him about the bowels? I see your

son understands some language at that time, do you think I could do it without

words? Gestures and excitement and all? I really need some ideas about the

bowels he is doing really well with the pee and I think I will try the 20 min

thing to get him to go in the potty every time. I'm hoping at some point if he

doesn't sign toilet he will knock on the bathroom door to indicate he wants to

go, or take my hand and lead me to the bathroom, something, I just have no idea

how to teach him not to poop in his pants.

Re: potty training deaf child

My first suggestion is to wait until he is " ready " If he hasn't shown signs

that he's interested or understands the process then you will have a long road

ahead. Even at 2 my son had no interest and really no concept of using the

potty. He was not bothered when he wet or soiled his diaper and he never

indicated when he'd go. I don't remember when I bought the potty chair but

even

after I did it was just a novelty. He would sit on it but still wasn't ready

so

I didn't push it. It would just be too frustrating for both of us. I was

thinking that potty training with him was going to be a difficult job given

his

stubborn and resistant personality. So I was very surprised when he was potty

trained in one day! Yes, I couldn't believe it myself but I was so happy and

proud.

We were in our first IEP meeting this summer when I started discussing potty

training with the audiologist. She told me that she trained her son in a day

with a method she read in a book, " How to potty train in one day. " She said

it worked and she explained the method. She said it was pretty rigid in that

you were supposed to spend the whole day engaged in the training and you were

supposed to stay in one room for three hours focusing on the training. She

went on to explain the method in detail. I thought about it and while there

were things about it I wasn't interested in doing I took the main idea which

was

to focus on dry underwear and use a doll as an example for pottying.

During the day I put in regular underwear. I talked about the new

underwear and that it was dry. At this point I wasn't even sure he would

understand the vocabulary dry and wet as it pertained to urinating, but he

learned

quickly. I felt his pants every five minutes and made a big deal about how it

was

dry and I was so happy. I took his elmo doll and talked about how he was

dry. I talked about how we were going to put elmo on the potty and I made

elmo

urinate by having previously poured some water in the potty. I showed him

that

elmo made pee pee and I was very excited. I continued to check 's pants

every five minutes and talk about how great it was that it was dry. Sometimes

elmo would wet and we would talk about that. I would put on the potty

every 20 minutes. He had some accidents and we'd talk about how the underwear

was wet. I never acted disappointed or upset. It was just a fact. I would

say " Uh oh, it's wet. " We should go pee pee in the potty not in the pants. "

THen I would sit him on the potty. Then he would put dry underwear on again

and we'd continue with checking every 5 minutes and sitting him on the potty

every 20 minutes. The child is bound to urinate at some point on the potty

and

then of course it's a big celebration. I used candy for reinforcement. We

just kept doing this throughout the day reinforcing the dry underwear with

praise

and being very excited for elmo and for when he used the potty.

The next day he had the hang of it and was excited about using the potty. I

could hardly believe it! I was amazed it was so easy. From that day forward

he was peeing and pooping in the potty on his own. I continued to use the

candy as reward. There were some days that I would find that he had gone on

the

potty on his own without any announcement. He was trained a few weeks before

he started preschool and he was 2 months away from turning three.

I'm sure it doesn't work for everybody because every child is so different,

but I'd say the idea of focusing on dry underwear and using a doll as an

example is something worth trying.

mom to , 3 yrs, CI 7/30/02

[Guest guest]

,

What about the bowels? really wants to potty train but has no language,

but he takes his diaper off so I started putting him on the potty, we have a

little seat that goes over the toilet. He doesn't know how to indicate he has

to go. I like the idea about every 20 min. I was wondering how often I should

have him go in the potty. How did you teach him about the bowels? I see your

son understands some language at that time, do you think I could do it without

words? Gestures and excitement and all? I really need some ideas about the

bowels he is doing really well with the pee and I think I will try the 20 min

thing to get him to go in the potty every time. I'm hoping at some point if he

doesn't sign toilet he will knock on the bathroom door to indicate he wants to

go, or take my hand and lead me to the bathroom, something, I just have no idea

how to teach him not to poop in his pants.

Re: potty training deaf child

My first suggestion is to wait until he is " ready " If he hasn't shown signs

that he's interested or understands the process then you will have a long road

ahead. Even at 2 my son had no interest and really no concept of using the

potty. He was not bothered when he wet or soiled his diaper and he never

indicated when he'd go. I don't remember when I bought the potty chair but

even

after I did it was just a novelty. He would sit on it but still wasn't ready

so

I didn't push it. It would just be too frustrating for both of us. I was

thinking that potty training with him was going to be a difficult job given

his

stubborn and resistant personality. So I was very surprised when he was potty

trained in one day! Yes, I couldn't believe it myself but I was so happy and

proud.

We were in our first IEP meeting this summer when I started discussing potty

training with the audiologist. She told me that she trained her son in a day

with a method she read in a book, " How to potty train in one day. " She said

it worked and she explained the method. She said it was pretty rigid in that

you were supposed to spend the whole day engaged in the training and you were

supposed to stay in one room for three hours focusing on the training. She

went on to explain the method in detail. I thought about it and while there

were things about it I wasn't interested in doing I took the main idea which

was

to focus on dry underwear and use a doll as an example for pottying.

During the day I put in regular underwear. I talked about the new

underwear and that it was dry. At this point I wasn't even sure he would

understand the vocabulary dry and wet as it pertained to urinating, but he

learned

quickly. I felt his pants every five minutes and made a big deal about how it

was

dry and I was so happy. I took his elmo doll and talked about how he was

dry. I talked about how we were going to put elmo on the potty and I made

elmo

urinate by having previously poured some water in the potty. I showed him

that

elmo made pee pee and I was very excited. I continued to check 's pants

every five minutes and talk about how great it was that it was dry. Sometimes

elmo would wet and we would talk about that. I would put on the potty

every 20 minutes. He had some accidents and we'd talk about how the underwear

was wet. I never acted disappointed or upset. It was just a fact. I would

say " Uh oh, it's wet. " We should go pee pee in the potty not in the pants. "

THen I would sit him on the potty. Then he would put dry underwear on again

and we'd continue with checking every 5 minutes and sitting him on the potty

every 20 minutes. The child is bound to urinate at some point on the potty

and

then of course it's a big celebration. I used candy for reinforcement. We

just kept doing this throughout the day reinforcing the dry underwear with

praise

and being very excited for elmo and for when he used the potty.

The next day he had the hang of it and was excited about using the potty. I

could hardly believe it! I was amazed it was so easy. From that day forward

he was peeing and pooping in the potty on his own. I continued to use the

candy as reward. There were some days that I would find that he had gone on

the

potty on his own without any announcement. He was trained a few weeks before

he started preschool and he was 2 months away from turning three.

I'm sure it doesn't work for everybody because every child is so different,

but I'd say the idea of focusing on dry underwear and using a doll as an

example is something worth trying.

mom to , 3 yrs, CI 7/30/02

[Guest guest]

As far as being scared of the potty let him watch you and his daddy go, and

I would suggest instead of his own potty, get him a potty seat for your

potty he may be more willing to sit on it if you and his daddy do. You can

take it with you also (of course you would have to keep antiseptic whipes to

clean it while you are out.)

Anyway I thought maybe that would help. Our seat also has handles on the

side so he can hold it which helped in the beginning when he felt a little

unstable at first, if you have a little stool to rest his feet on also that

helps.

-- Re: potty training deaf child

My daughter Emma was totally potty trained before she was 2, she was just

" ready " . However she is not hearing impaired. Vs. My son Ian who refuses to

wear " Spider Man " (we've tried every different character out there)

underwear, he is terrified of sitting on a potty chair; however he hates it

when his diaper is soiled. He is 3.5 and is hearing impaired.

I too would love to know if there are any tricks we've missed... I thought

we'd been there, done that with our first child. Now I am getting very

concerned as he grows older; is it because he is hearing impaired, that he

won't potty train easily? I am so bad about comparing Ian to Emma, it's not

fair to him that his sister was above average in everything she ever tried.

I many times feel lost when it comes to figuring him out. He is so

incredibly challenging. -ALSO I too think 19 months is really too early to

seriously try to potty train. However each child is different, and the

sticker reward game sounds interesting.

--

Thanks,

Tillery

Birmingham, AL

Ian (3-1/2 yrs HI Moderate/Severe - Aids)

Emma (7 yrs Hearing)

on 12/17/03 4:34 PM, & Cammy at ricoba1017@... wrote:

> My daughter also had her own little potty. That was one thing that

motivated

> her to go to the restroom. Also we had a chart and she got a sticker for

> everytime she urinated while those added up she got a prize at the end.

For

> the times she had a bowel movement she got a treat bec she usually went in

her

> underwear and was a bit harder to train her to use the toilet. It was

> something visual and she was able to understand it. She also saw some of

her

> cousins using the toilet so she wanted to do what they were doing. She was

2

> 1/2 yrs old at the time we were training her, I think 19 months is too

young.

> But everyone has different opinions.

> Good luck.

>

> On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:18:41 -0800 (PST) Lacey

wrote:

> --- I am looking for suggestions. I just bought my

> 19month old a potty chair for chirstmas. But since he

> cant hear the " tinkle " (and I dont know how well he

> can see it??) I wonder what the best way to go about

> this is?? Are there books on this? My son got a

> cochlear implant in October, but due to swelling, we

> have not been able to keep it turned on yet. Any ideas???

>

>

> Sign up for Internet Service under $10 dollars a month, at

> http://isp.BlueLight.com

>

> All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post

is

> the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright

> restrictions.

>

>

>

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As far as being scared of the potty let him watch you and his daddy go, and

I would suggest instead of his own potty, get him a potty seat for your

potty he may be more willing to sit on it if you and his daddy do. You can

take it with you also (of course you would have to keep antiseptic whipes to

clean it while you are out.)

Anyway I thought maybe that would help. Our seat also has handles on the

side so he can hold it which helped in the beginning when he felt a little

unstable at first, if you have a little stool to rest his feet on also that

helps.

-- Re: potty training deaf child

My daughter Emma was totally potty trained before she was 2, she was just

" ready " . However she is not hearing impaired. Vs. My son Ian who refuses to

wear " Spider Man " (we've tried every different character out there)

underwear, he is terrified of sitting on a potty chair; however he hates it

when his diaper is soiled. He is 3.5 and is hearing impaired.

I too would love to know if there are any tricks we've missed... I thought

we'd been there, done that with our first child. Now I am getting very

concerned as he grows older; is it because he is hearing impaired, that he

won't potty train easily? I am so bad about comparing Ian to Emma, it's not

fair to him that his sister was above average in everything she ever tried.

I many times feel lost when it comes to figuring him out. He is so

incredibly challenging. -ALSO I too think 19 months is really too early to

seriously try to potty train. However each child is different, and the

sticker reward game sounds interesting.

--

Thanks,

Tillery

Birmingham, AL

Ian (3-1/2 yrs HI Moderate/Severe - Aids)

Emma (7 yrs Hearing)

on 12/17/03 4:34 PM, & Cammy at ricoba1017@... wrote:

> My daughter also had her own little potty. That was one thing that

motivated

> her to go to the restroom. Also we had a chart and she got a sticker for

> everytime she urinated while those added up she got a prize at the end.

For

> the times she had a bowel movement she got a treat bec she usually went in

her

> underwear and was a bit harder to train her to use the toilet. It was

> something visual and she was able to understand it. She also saw some of

her

> cousins using the toilet so she wanted to do what they were doing. She was

2

> 1/2 yrs old at the time we were training her, I think 19 months is too

young.

> But everyone has different opinions.

> Good luck.

>

> On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:18:41 -0800 (PST) Lacey

wrote:

> --- I am looking for suggestions. I just bought my

> 19month old a potty chair for chirstmas. But since he

> cant hear the " tinkle " (and I dont know how well he

> can see it??) I wonder what the best way to go about

> this is?? Are there books on this? My son got a

> cochlear implant in October, but due to swelling, we

> have not been able to keep it turned on yet. Any ideas???

>

>

> Sign up for Internet Service under $10 dollars a month, at

> http://isp.BlueLight.com

>

> All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post

is

> the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright

> restrictions.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

As far as being scared of the potty let him watch you and his daddy go, and

I would suggest instead of his own potty, get him a potty seat for your

potty he may be more willing to sit on it if you and his daddy do. You can

take it with you also (of course you would have to keep antiseptic whipes to

clean it while you are out.)

Anyway I thought maybe that would help. Our seat also has handles on the

side so he can hold it which helped in the beginning when he felt a little

unstable at first, if you have a little stool to rest his feet on also that

helps.

-- Re: potty training deaf child

My daughter Emma was totally potty trained before she was 2, she was just

" ready " . However she is not hearing impaired. Vs. My son Ian who refuses to

wear " Spider Man " (we've tried every different character out there)

underwear, he is terrified of sitting on a potty chair; however he hates it

when his diaper is soiled. He is 3.5 and is hearing impaired.

I too would love to know if there are any tricks we've missed... I thought

we'd been there, done that with our first child. Now I am getting very

concerned as he grows older; is it because he is hearing impaired, that he

won't potty train easily? I am so bad about comparing Ian to Emma, it's not

fair to him that his sister was above average in everything she ever tried.

I many times feel lost when it comes to figuring him out. He is so

incredibly challenging. -ALSO I too think 19 months is really too early to

seriously try to potty train. However each child is different, and the

sticker reward game sounds interesting.

--

Thanks,

Tillery

Birmingham, AL

Ian (3-1/2 yrs HI Moderate/Severe - Aids)

Emma (7 yrs Hearing)

on 12/17/03 4:34 PM, & Cammy at ricoba1017@... wrote:

> My daughter also had her own little potty. That was one thing that

motivated

> her to go to the restroom. Also we had a chart and she got a sticker for

> everytime she urinated while those added up she got a prize at the end.

For

> the times she had a bowel movement she got a treat bec she usually went in

her

> underwear and was a bit harder to train her to use the toilet. It was

> something visual and she was able to understand it. She also saw some of

her

> cousins using the toilet so she wanted to do what they were doing. She was

2

> 1/2 yrs old at the time we were training her, I think 19 months is too

young.

> But everyone has different opinions.

> Good luck.

>

> On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:18:41 -0800 (PST) Lacey

wrote:

> --- I am looking for suggestions. I just bought my

> 19month old a potty chair for chirstmas. But since he

> cant hear the " tinkle " (and I dont know how well he

> can see it??) I wonder what the best way to go about

> this is?? Are there books on this? My son got a

> cochlear implant in October, but due to swelling, we

> have not been able to keep it turned on yet. Any ideas???

>

>

> Sign up for Internet Service under $10 dollars a month, at

> http://isp.BlueLight.com

>

> All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post

is

> the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright

> restrictions.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

<<What is the " potty-training-in-a-day " method?>>

Well, I did what someone else mentioned...took only what I thought would work. I

never read the book...just listened to what friends were doing. As I said,

was showing no interest (or understanding) with toileting, even after seeing a

video and reading a couple of books on the subject. He was 3 1/2 so I felt we

should at least try because we were two months away from starting preschool. I

picked a day when we had nowhere to go, took off his diaper and gave him as much

juice and milk as he wanted to drink. After an hour, I sat him on his potty

chair while we watched his favorite movies. (This only works with kids who

aren't constantly in motion, of course, but that's why videos and TV work for

it.) When nothing happened, we played for a while while he drank even MORE

juice, water, milk, etc. Then, back on the potty. I sat on the floor, he sat

on the potty (in the middle of the family room) and we watched another video.

About halfway through, he started to pee (because, let's face it, it was either

that or explode.) He looked down, saw it coming out and was totally amazed. As

I mentioned, he got this look of total wonder and excitement on his face and

said " Look at that! " Or maybe he was referring to his goofy mom who was doing

the " happy mommy dance " all around the room. (Naw, it was the first one.) From

that moment, he just got it. He did get a surprise for going and we continued

to give stickers or whatever the first few times, then every other time, etc.

But it truly happened in one day.

The poop thing is different. Although he never had accidents during the day

after he learned about the potty chair, he still needed a diaper at night until

he was almost 5 1/2 for poop. This is VERY normal...it's a physical maturity

issue. We never made a big deal out of it and one night, after he'd gone about

a week without anything happening in his nighttime pull-up, he just asked to use

regular underwear. No big deal...and MUCH easier than the 2 year nightmare of

training with my headstrong older daughter! By the way, SHE was " trained " at 2,

and then at 3, decided she wanted diapers again. I think it could have had

something to do with wanting to be the baby again, and get the attention her

brother did. No matter, it was just a big pain in the...uh...potty chair.

Carol - mom to , 7.6, mod to profound, LVAS and Kate, 10 going on 16, Avril

LaVigne wanna-be.

--

Thanks,

Tillery

Birmingham, AL

Ian (3-1/2 yrs HI Moderate/Severe - Aids)

Emma (7 yrs Hearing)

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[Guest guest]

<<What is the " potty-training-in-a-day " method?>>

Well, I did what someone else mentioned...took only what I thought would work. I

never read the book...just listened to what friends were doing. As I said,

was showing no interest (or understanding) with toileting, even after seeing a

video and reading a couple of books on the subject. He was 3 1/2 so I felt we

should at least try because we were two months away from starting preschool. I

picked a day when we had nowhere to go, took off his diaper and gave him as much

juice and milk as he wanted to drink. After an hour, I sat him on his potty

chair while we watched his favorite movies. (This only works with kids who

aren't constantly in motion, of course, but that's why videos and TV work for

it.) When nothing happened, we played for a while while he drank even MORE

juice, water, milk, etc. Then, back on the potty. I sat on the floor, he sat

on the potty (in the middle of the family room) and we watched another video.

About halfway through, he started to pee (because, let's face it, it was either

that or explode.) He looked down, saw it coming out and was totally amazed. As

I mentioned, he got this look of total wonder and excitement on his face and

said " Look at that! " Or maybe he was referring to his goofy mom who was doing

the " happy mommy dance " all around the room. (Naw, it was the first one.) From

that moment, he just got it. He did get a surprise for going and we continued

to give stickers or whatever the first few times, then every other time, etc.

But it truly happened in one day.

The poop thing is different. Although he never had accidents during the day

after he learned about the potty chair, he still needed a diaper at night until

he was almost 5 1/2 for poop. This is VERY normal...it's a physical maturity

issue. We never made a big deal out of it and one night, after he'd gone about

a week without anything happening in his nighttime pull-up, he just asked to use

regular underwear. No big deal...and MUCH easier than the 2 year nightmare of

training with my headstrong older daughter! By the way, SHE was " trained " at 2,

and then at 3, decided she wanted diapers again. I think it could have had

something to do with wanting to be the baby again, and get the attention her

brother did. No matter, it was just a big pain in the...uh...potty chair.

Carol - mom to , 7.6, mod to profound, LVAS and Kate, 10 going on 16, Avril

LaVigne wanna-be.

--

Thanks,

Tillery

Birmingham, AL

Ian (3-1/2 yrs HI Moderate/Severe - Aids)

Emma (7 yrs Hearing)

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[Guest guest]

<<What is the " potty-training-in-a-day " method?>>

Well, I did what someone else mentioned...took only what I thought would work. I

never read the book...just listened to what friends were doing. As I said,

was showing no interest (or understanding) with toileting, even after seeing a

video and reading a couple of books on the subject. He was 3 1/2 so I felt we

should at least try because we were two months away from starting preschool. I

picked a day when we had nowhere to go, took off his diaper and gave him as much

juice and milk as he wanted to drink. After an hour, I sat him on his potty

chair while we watched his favorite movies. (This only works with kids who

aren't constantly in motion, of course, but that's why videos and TV work for

it.) When nothing happened, we played for a while while he drank even MORE

juice, water, milk, etc. Then, back on the potty. I sat on the floor, he sat

on the potty (in the middle of the family room) and we watched another video.

About halfway through, he started to pee (because, let's face it, it was either

that or explode.) He looked down, saw it coming out and was totally amazed. As

I mentioned, he got this look of total wonder and excitement on his face and

said " Look at that! " Or maybe he was referring to his goofy mom who was doing

the " happy mommy dance " all around the room. (Naw, it was the first one.) From

that moment, he just got it. He did get a surprise for going and we continued

to give stickers or whatever the first few times, then every other time, etc.

But it truly happened in one day.

The poop thing is different. Although he never had accidents during the day

after he learned about the potty chair, he still needed a diaper at night until

he was almost 5 1/2 for poop. This is VERY normal...it's a physical maturity

issue. We never made a big deal out of it and one night, after he'd gone about

a week without anything happening in his nighttime pull-up, he just asked to use

regular underwear. No big deal...and MUCH easier than the 2 year nightmare of

training with my headstrong older daughter! By the way, SHE was " trained " at 2,

and then at 3, decided she wanted diapers again. I think it could have had

something to do with wanting to be the baby again, and get the attention her

brother did. No matter, it was just a big pain in the...uh...potty chair.

Carol - mom to , 7.6, mod to profound, LVAS and Kate, 10 going on 16, Avril

LaVigne wanna-be.

--

Thanks,

Tillery

Birmingham, AL

Ian (3-1/2 yrs HI Moderate/Severe - Aids)

Emma (7 yrs Hearing)

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We never used a potty chair, we had one of those rings that fit onto the

regular seat and a step stool. (My kids hated the potty chair, so I gave it away

-

twice.) Ian was about 2½ and was not even 2 when she asked to use the

potty -- her brother (6) did and she was jealous. We did not know of Ian's

hearing loss at that time, so I don't know if he ever heard the tinkling sound.

We used good-old-fashioned bribery and Pull-Ups. This may have worked for our

kids because bribery has never been a standard in our house, a friend told me

to try it and it worked. For my son there was a tiny toy -- tiny dinosaurs in

a mason jar on the bathroom counter. When he, um, how to say this politely

.... tinkled without wetting himself, he'd get a treasure. But I have to say that

neither of my kids put toys into their mouths, so I never had to worry about

giving a 2-year-old a little dinosaur.

Once he was ready to stand and aim, I put a penny on the back of the toilet

and told him to aim for it. (lift the lower seat and put it on the back of the

porcelain between the hinges) He was so little there was no way he was going

to hit the back of the toilet and make a mess. My sister-in-law would fold

little origami boats out of tissue paper, float them and told our nephew to sink

them. I've heard sinking Cheerios is good also. But Ian was too creative in his

aiming for that -- the entire toilet and floor were wet almost every time.

Focusing on the penny kept his aim straight and I had very few wet floors.

The other portion of potty training was more difficult because right in the

middle of the process the poor kid got the flu and diarrhea. Suddenly we were

back at the beginning. Little dinoaurs and pennies were not motivation enough.

So we took a trip to Toys R Us and he picked out a set of Lincoln Logs. We put

the box on the back of the toilet and on the box was a sticker chart. I don't

remember exactly how many squares were on our chart, but it was about a month

before he'd earned his toy. The loss of control that came with that flu was

too much for his little ego ... but once that box was sitting in the bathroom

we'd find him sitting on the floor staring at it and the toilet as though he

was weighing his options. Again, the same friend had suggested a big bribe and

told me not to think of it as a bribe but as a reward for achieving a very

difficult goal. It took about a week of the Lincoln Logs sitting there before he

attempted it, and I just waited him out -- doubting whether the bribe was going

to work.

My daughter is younger and she wanted to use the potty because her brother

did. He didn't wear diapers or Pull-Ups. Her motivation was a big packet (6

pairs) of pretty " big-girl " panties that sat on the back of the toilet. (Ya

gotta

love Walmart.) I forget how may accident-free days we required before she got

to wear the pretty undies. She got little ponies as her toy-bribe each time

she didn't wet herself, with the panties as the big prize. Much cheaper than

the Lincoln Logs, but big-boy undies did not motivate Ian.

Both kids slept in Pull-ups even after they were potty-trained because I

can't stand rubber sheets or wet beds. But once they were trained, the

night-time

training followed very quickly. My daughter had far fewer accidents than my

son, but she had insisted that she could use the big potty.

My motivation for training Ian was that he could not attend nursery school

unless he was potty-trained. He'd loved the Mommy-and-Me program and we thought

that the 3-yr-old class of nursery school would be good for him -- it was.

Good luck! Jill

[Guest guest]

Ok, I have a plan. When poops in the diaper, we are going to say " uh oh "

(he gets that those are among the few sounds he hears and makes, sometimes he

even repeats it) then sign poopy, clean him up sign toilet, and come, go to the

toilet put him on and sign poop again. After a while he is bound to get the

idea about the sign for toilet and poop or at least we want him to poop in the

toilet, if he doesn't get the sign. That's our plan. I hope it works, send

some good toilet training vibes my way and prayers wouldn't hurt either. It's

just hard because he really does hate diapers. We have him in pull ups and we

just recently decided to try a cheap brand and they are actually softer than the

huggies. We always used huggies because regular diapers just don't fit well,

but when it comes to toilet training diapers the cheep brand is awsome. Anyway

he still doesn't want those so we need to teach him this asap.

Re: potty training deaf child

In a message dated 12/17/2003 10:25:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,

enriquez16@... writes:

Of course it makes it

easier for us being used to communicating orally, but our children pick up

cues in so many ways and they understand. Your expressions and signs and body

language will communicate the message.

[Guest guest]

That's great. We now have a plan for the poop and now I know I should take him

to the potty every hour. He knows what to do and even wants to do it, he

doesn't want to pee in his diaper but doesn't know how to indicate he needs to

go so hopefully we can get him dry other than the poops and hopefully he will

get the idea with those too. As far as going around naked and peeing on the

floor and rushing him to the bathroom we have been there. He would take off his

diaper run around the house and sneak away from me and pee on the floor and

stand there all excited and watch it come out. Nice. Luckely he knows now

that's what the toilet is for, but he still goes in his diaper too.

Re: potty training deaf child

<<What is the " potty-training-in-a-day " method?>>

Well, I did what someone else mentioned...took only what I thought would work.

I never read the book...just listened to what friends were doing. As I said,

was showing no interest (or understanding) with toileting, even after

seeing a video and reading a couple of books on the subject. He was 3 1/2 so I

felt we should at least try because we were two months away from starting

preschool. I picked a day when we had nowhere to go, took off his diaper and

gave him as much juice and milk as he wanted to drink. After an hour, I sat him

on his potty chair while we watched his favorite movies. (This only works with

kids who aren't constantly in motion, of course, but that's why videos and TV

work for it.) When nothing happened, we played for a while while he drank even

MORE juice, water, milk, etc. Then, back on the potty. I sat on the floor, he

sat on the potty (in the middle of the family room) and we watched another

video.

About halfway through, he started to pee (because, let's face it, it was

either that or explode.) He looked down, saw it coming out and was totally

amazed. As I mentioned, he got this look of total wonder and excitement on his

face and said " Look at that! " Or maybe he was referring to his goofy mom who

was doing the " happy mommy dance " all around the room. (Naw, it was the first

one.) From that moment, he just got it. He did get a surprise for going and we

continued to give stickers or whatever the first few times, then every other

time, etc. But it truly happened in one day.

The poop thing is different. Although he never had accidents during the day

after he learned about the potty chair, he still needed a diaper at night until

he was almost 5 1/2 for poop. This is VERY normal...it's a physical maturity

issue. We never made a big deal out of it and one night, after he'd gone about

a week without anything happening in his nighttime pull-up, he just asked to use

regular underwear. No big deal...and MUCH easier than the 2 year nightmare of

training with my headstrong older daughter! By the way, SHE was " trained " at 2,

and then at 3, decided she wanted diapers again. I think it could have had

something to do with wanting to be the baby again, and get the attention her

brother did. No matter, it was just a big pain in the...uh...potty chair.

Carol - mom to , 7.6, mod to profound, LVAS and Kate, 10 going on 16,

Avril LaVigne wanna-be.

--

Thanks,

Tillery

Birmingham, AL

Ian (3-1/2 yrs HI Moderate/Severe - Aids)

Emma (7 yrs Hearing)

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[Guest guest]

Ok I wanted to let all of you know about some products out there that I have

seen. Many of you say that your kids wore the diapers at night for a while.

there is a catalog called Leaps and bounds, the website is

www.leapsandboundscatalog.com Ok the first product is a bed pad it has a soft

cover so it's not plastic or rubber, it goes over your sheet, it has three layer

and it holds up to six cups of fluid. It is machine washable too. the twin

pads are $19.95 and the full is 24.95, the price is a little less per one if you

buy two.

The really cool thing is these underwear, this has been tested on kids who are

cronic bed wetters. There are underwear with a " comfortable sensor pad " worn

inside the underwear and if the child wets the bed an audible alarm sounds. Of

course kids don't sleep with their aids in or the CI on, but if it is loud

enough the child with a hearing impairment may hear it. they say that it wakes

kids up fast at the first drop of wetness and it trains them to respond to

bladder sensations while sleeping. Those are pretty expensive though at $79.95.

Anyway I thought those might help some the underwear are called Nite Train'R

Re: potty training deaf child

We never used a potty chair, we had one of those rings that fit onto the

regular seat and a step stool. (My kids hated the potty chair, so I gave it

away -

twice.) Ian was about 2½ and was not even 2 when she asked to use the

potty -- her brother (6) did and she was jealous. We did not know of Ian's

hearing loss at that time, so I don't know if he ever heard the tinkling

sound.

We used good-old-fashioned bribery and Pull-Ups. This may have worked for our

kids because bribery has never been a standard in our house, a friend told me

to try it and it worked. For my son there was a tiny toy -- tiny dinosaurs in

a mason jar on the bathroom counter. When he, um, how to say this politely

... tinkled without wetting himself, he'd get a treasure. But I have to say

that

neither of my kids put toys into their mouths, so I never had to worry about

giving a 2-year-old a little dinosaur.

Once he was ready to stand and aim, I put a penny on the back of the toilet

and told him to aim for it. (lift the lower seat and put it on the back of the

porcelain between the hinges) He was so little there was no way he was going

to hit the back of the toilet and make a mess. My sister-in-law would fold

little origami boats out of tissue paper, float them and told our nephew to

sink

them. I've heard sinking Cheerios is good also. But Ian was too creative in

his

aiming for that -- the entire toilet and floor were wet almost every time.

Focusing on the penny kept his aim straight and I had very few wet floors.

The other portion of potty training was more difficult because right in the

middle of the process the poor kid got the flu and diarrhea. Suddenly we were

back at the beginning. Little dinoaurs and pennies were not motivation enough.

So we took a trip to Toys R Us and he picked out a set of Lincoln Logs. We put

the box on the back of the toilet and on the box was a sticker chart. I don't

remember exactly how many squares were on our chart, but it was about a month

before he'd earned his toy. The loss of control that came with that flu was

too much for his little ego ... but once that box was sitting in the bathroom

we'd find him sitting on the floor staring at it and the toilet as though he

was weighing his options. Again, the same friend had suggested a big bribe and

told me not to think of it as a bribe but as a reward for achieving a very

difficult goal. It took about a week of the Lincoln Logs sitting there before

he

attempted it, and I just waited him out -- doubting whether the bribe was

going

to work.

My daughter is younger and she wanted to use the potty because her brother

did. He didn't wear diapers or Pull-Ups. Her motivation was a big packet (6

pairs) of pretty " big-girl " panties that sat on the back of the toilet. (Ya

gotta

love Walmart.) I forget how may accident-free days we required before she got

to wear the pretty undies. She got little ponies as her toy-bribe each time

she didn't wet herself, with the panties as the big prize. Much cheaper than

the Lincoln Logs, but big-boy undies did not motivate Ian.

Both kids slept in Pull-ups even after they were potty-trained because I

can't stand rubber sheets or wet beds. But once they were trained, the

night-time

training followed very quickly. My daughter had far fewer accidents than my

son, but she had insisted that she could use the big potty.

My motivation for training Ian was that he could not attend nursery school

unless he was potty-trained. He'd loved the Mommy-and-Me program and we

thought

that the 3-yr-old class of nursery school would be good for him -- it was.

Good luck! Jill

[Guest guest]

,

I don't know if this is helpful or not, but your comments about the cheap

diapers made me think of it. I have a friend who's from Calcutta, India and

when she went back home for a visit with her then 2-year-old and he wasn't

toilet trained all her friends and relatives just about had a heart attack.

Turns out that in India paper diapers are almost unheard of, and cloth

diapers are so nasty to sit in that all the babies are trained at one year!

So maybe it's not so bad that 's in the cheap diaper. Maybe a LESS

comfortable diaper will encourage him to use the potty.

This from the mother whose HOH son trained at 4 & whose 5 year old still has

accidents. So my word isn't worth much. But it was an interesting story!

-Daphne

> It's just hard because he really

> does hate diapers. We have him in pull ups and we just recently

> decided to try a cheap brand and they are actually softer than

> the huggies. We always used huggies because regular diapers just

> don't fit well, but when it comes to toilet training diapers the

> cheep brand is awsome. Anyway he still doesn't want those so we

> need to teach him this asap.

>

>