Re: Looks like a c-section for me.....

July 5, 2002

From what I have read you still have time for him to turn on his own. The

dooula trick I have heard most often working is to use an ICE PACK to get him

to move. Place it on his head and he will readjust... Everyone I heard use

this has worked....

Good Luck!

J.J.

Medial Lap RNY

May 10, 2000

Tricare, Navy Dr. Spencer

300/185/160

Baby Girl Expected by C-Section 9/12/02

July 5, 2002

Hey thanks! I'll try that one....it might just work for this baby.

He's already got an attitude and he's not even born yet. He doesn't

like being messed with at all! My last one was really into being

read to in utero, music too, but this one is something else. Warren

was head down almost the entire time. This little booger is head up

the entire time....I guess when they say no two babies are alike it's

true!

Which makes me wonder cause Warren was a very needy baby....I

couldn't leave his side without him screaming his little eyes out.

He wanted constant attention. So does that mean this one will be

independent from birth? So far is acting opposite from his

brother....

Thanks again,

Lori~

> From what I have read you still have time for him to turn on his

own. The

> dooula trick I have heard most often working is to use an ICE PACK

to get him

> to move. Place it on his head and he will readjust... Everyone I

heard use

> this has worked....

>

> Good Luck!

>

> J.J.

> Medial Lap RNY

> May 10, 2000

> Tricare, Navy Dr. Spencer

> 300/185/160

> Baby Girl Expected by C-Section 9/12/02

>

July 5, 2002

Hey thanks! I'll try that one....it might just work for this baby.

He's already got an attitude and he's not even born yet. He doesn't

like being messed with at all! My last one was really into being

read to in utero, music too, but this one is something else. Warren

was head down almost the entire time. This little booger is head up

the entire time....I guess when they say no two babies are alike it's

true!

Which makes me wonder cause Warren was a very needy baby....I

couldn't leave his side without him screaming his little eyes out.

He wanted constant attention. So does that mean this one will be

independent from birth? So far is acting opposite from his

brother....

Thanks again,

Lori~

> From what I have read you still have time for him to turn on his

own. The

> dooula trick I have heard most often working is to use an ICE PACK

to get him

> to move. Place it on his head and he will readjust... Everyone I

heard use

> this has worked....

>

> Good Luck!

>

> J.J.

> Medial Lap RNY

> May 10, 2000

> Tricare, Navy Dr. Spencer

> 300/185/160

> Baby Girl Expected by C-Section 9/12/02

>

July 5, 2002

OK, I just have to ask a few questions: Has your doc offered to

try do a version to turn the baby around either before or during

labor? Why the induction? Was your first child of average size and

was your delivery a normal vaginal delivery?

Also, here is a link to a good source for trying to turn breech

babies. http://www.birthsource.com/proarticlefile/proarticle66.html

I should tell you that one of my favorite theories on breech

babies is that they turn around so that they can be closer to the

mom's heartbeat. Sometimes this is because the pregnancy has been

difficult and stressful and the baby senses this-- sometimes it may

be insight into the kind of person the baby will become. In any case,

it can't hurt to " talk " to your baby and reassure him that turning

around will be safer and better for both of you.

Finally, I had a client who wanted a homebirth which she could

not do with her breech baby and she visited an acupuncturist

recommended by her midwife. The acupuncturist used trigger points to

encourage the baby to turn. She did and was born a week later, at

home.

Laurie, CD DONA

waiting for lap-band ttc #2

Consult with Dr. Paynter, 8/16

> > From what I have read you still have time for him to turn on his

> own. The

> > dooula trick I have heard most often working is to use an ICE

PACK

> to get him

> > to move. Place it on his head and he will readjust... Everyone

I

> heard use

> > this has worked....

> >

> > Good Luck!

> >

> > J.J.

> > Medial Lap RNY

> > May 10, 2000

> > Tricare, Navy Dr. Spencer

> > 300/185/160

> > Baby Girl Expected by C-Section 9/12/02

> >

July 5, 2002

OK, I just have to ask a few questions: Has your doc offered to

try do a version to turn the baby around either before or during

labor? Why the induction? Was your first child of average size and

was your delivery a normal vaginal delivery?

Also, here is a link to a good source for trying to turn breech

babies. http://www.birthsource.com/proarticlefile/proarticle66.html

I should tell you that one of my favorite theories on breech

babies is that they turn around so that they can be closer to the

mom's heartbeat. Sometimes this is because the pregnancy has been

difficult and stressful and the baby senses this-- sometimes it may

be insight into the kind of person the baby will become. In any case,

it can't hurt to " talk " to your baby and reassure him that turning

around will be safer and better for both of you.

Finally, I had a client who wanted a homebirth which she could

not do with her breech baby and she visited an acupuncturist

recommended by her midwife. The acupuncturist used trigger points to

encourage the baby to turn. She did and was born a week later, at

home.

Laurie, CD DONA

waiting for lap-band ttc #2

Consult with Dr. Paynter, 8/16

> > From what I have read you still have time for him to turn on his

> own. The

> > dooula trick I have heard most often working is to use an ICE

PACK

> to get him

> > to move. Place it on his head and he will readjust... Everyone

I

> heard use

> > this has worked....

> >

> > Good Luck!

> >

> > J.J.

> > Medial Lap RNY

> > May 10, 2000

> > Tricare, Navy Dr. Spencer

> > 300/185/160

> > Baby Girl Expected by C-Section 9/12/02

> >

July 5, 2002

OK, I just have to ask a few questions: Has your doc offered to

try do a version to turn the baby around either before or during

labor? Why the induction? Was your first child of average size and

was your delivery a normal vaginal delivery?

Also, here is a link to a good source for trying to turn breech

babies. http://www.birthsource.com/proarticlefile/proarticle66.html

I should tell you that one of my favorite theories on breech

babies is that they turn around so that they can be closer to the

mom's heartbeat. Sometimes this is because the pregnancy has been

difficult and stressful and the baby senses this-- sometimes it may

be insight into the kind of person the baby will become. In any case,

it can't hurt to " talk " to your baby and reassure him that turning

around will be safer and better for both of you.

Finally, I had a client who wanted a homebirth which she could

not do with her breech baby and she visited an acupuncturist

recommended by her midwife. The acupuncturist used trigger points to

encourage the baby to turn. She did and was born a week later, at

home.

Laurie, CD DONA

waiting for lap-band ttc #2

Consult with Dr. Paynter, 8/16

> > From what I have read you still have time for him to turn on his

> own. The

> > dooula trick I have heard most often working is to use an ICE

PACK

> to get him

> > to move. Place it on his head and he will readjust... Everyone

I

> heard use

> > this has worked....

> >

> > Good Luck!

> >

> > J.J.

> > Medial Lap RNY

> > May 10, 2000

> > Tricare, Navy Dr. Spencer

> > 300/185/160

> > Baby Girl Expected by C-Section 9/12/02

> >

July 5, 2002

I like that theory, whether or not it's " scientific " ... :-) ... Could

I ask you what the " CD DONA " stands for after your name?

I'm always glad to have practitioners and women who are familiar with a

wide variety of birthing methods here on the list... pregnancy, labor

and delivery are very personal, and each individual will have a

preference for a particular kind of experience. It's such a help to have

people on the list who can give us perspectives.

Blessings,

Kris

teacherlmc wrote:

> OK, I just have to ask a few questions: Has your doc offered to

>try do a version to turn the baby around either before or during

>labor?

>

July 5, 2002

I like that theory, whether or not it's " scientific " ... :-) ... Could

I ask you what the " CD DONA " stands for after your name?

I'm always glad to have practitioners and women who are familiar with a

wide variety of birthing methods here on the list... pregnancy, labor

and delivery are very personal, and each individual will have a

preference for a particular kind of experience. It's such a help to have

people on the list who can give us perspectives.

Blessings,

Kris

teacherlmc wrote:

> OK, I just have to ask a few questions: Has your doc offered to

>try do a version to turn the baby around either before or during

>labor?

>

July 5, 2002

I like that theory, whether or not it's " scientific " ... :-) ... Could

I ask you what the " CD DONA " stands for after your name?

I'm always glad to have practitioners and women who are familiar with a

wide variety of birthing methods here on the list... pregnancy, labor

and delivery are very personal, and each individual will have a

preference for a particular kind of experience. It's such a help to have

people on the list who can give us perspectives.

Blessings,

Kris

teacherlmc wrote:

> OK, I just have to ask a few questions: Has your doc offered to

>try do a version to turn the baby around either before or during

>labor?

>

July 5, 2002

I would refuse a version even if offered. I'm not worried about

having a c-section at all; I was just surprised and prepared for a

vaginal delivery like I had before. Our first son was 9 1/2 pounds,

24 inches....he was huge! He left the hospital the next day at 10.3

pounds....hence the induction this time around.

Just trying to figure out some home remedies to get baby to turn, and

even if he doesn't that's fine too. :-) He's fine where he is...he

has no health concerns and if the only thing I have to complain about

is that he's head up....well, I consider myself lucky. He could have

a lot worse going on, but he doesn't. I should count my blessings. :-

)

Lori~

> > > From what I have read you still have time for him to turn on

his

> > own. The

> > > dooula trick I have heard most often working is to use an ICE

> PACK

> > to get him

> > > to move. Place it on his head and he will readjust...

Everyone

> I

> > heard use

> > > this has worked....

> > >

> > > Good Luck!

> > >

> > > J.J.

> > > Medial Lap RNY

> > > May 10, 2000

> > > Tricare, Navy Dr. Spencer

> > > 300/185/160

> > > Baby Girl Expected by C-Section 9/12/02

> > >

July 5, 2002

I would refuse a version even if offered. I'm not worried about

having a c-section at all; I was just surprised and prepared for a

vaginal delivery like I had before. Our first son was 9 1/2 pounds,

24 inches....he was huge! He left the hospital the next day at 10.3

pounds....hence the induction this time around.

Just trying to figure out some home remedies to get baby to turn, and

even if he doesn't that's fine too. :-) He's fine where he is...he

has no health concerns and if the only thing I have to complain about

is that he's head up....well, I consider myself lucky. He could have

a lot worse going on, but he doesn't. I should count my blessings. :-

)

Lori~

> > > From what I have read you still have time for him to turn on

his

> > own. The

> > > dooula trick I have heard most often working is to use an ICE

> PACK

> > to get him

> > > to move. Place it on his head and he will readjust...

Everyone

> I

> > heard use

> > > this has worked....

> > >

> > > Good Luck!

> > >

> > > J.J.

> > > Medial Lap RNY

> > > May 10, 2000

> > > Tricare, Navy Dr. Spencer

> > > 300/185/160

> > > Baby Girl Expected by C-Section 9/12/02

> > >

July 5, 2002

I would refuse a version even if offered. I'm not worried about

having a c-section at all; I was just surprised and prepared for a

vaginal delivery like I had before. Our first son was 9 1/2 pounds,

24 inches....he was huge! He left the hospital the next day at 10.3

pounds....hence the induction this time around.

Just trying to figure out some home remedies to get baby to turn, and

even if he doesn't that's fine too. :-) He's fine where he is...he

has no health concerns and if the only thing I have to complain about

is that he's head up....well, I consider myself lucky. He could have

a lot worse going on, but he doesn't. I should count my blessings. :-

)

Lori~

> > > From what I have read you still have time for him to turn on

his

> > own. The

> > > dooula trick I have heard most often working is to use an ICE

> PACK

> > to get him

> > > to move. Place it on his head and he will readjust...

Everyone

> I

> > heard use

> > > this has worked....

> > >

> > > Good Luck!

> > >

> > > J.J.

> > > Medial Lap RNY

> > > May 10, 2000

> > > Tricare, Navy Dr. Spencer

> > > 300/185/160

> > > Baby Girl Expected by C-Section 9/12/02

> > >

July 5, 2002

Kendra was not head up but transverse at 37 weeks...my girlfriends baby was head

up and moved on his own at 37 1/2 weeks. Is an inversion out of question?

O

Looks like a c-section for me.....

Wednesday I had my regular weekly OB visit and the nurse couldn't

find the heartbeat to do my non-stress test. I wasn't the lest bit

scared cause he was moving around all morning and when she was trying

to find his heartbeat. The doc put me in her ultrasound room to take

a look at the heart and sure enough it was there, but she also

discovered that he was totally head up. Aw man!! His heartbeat is

really low like last week so he must have been head up then too.

Apparently he's in a really funky position. I'm just curious about

the odds of him moving downward at this late stage in the game? I am

35.5 weeks today and my OB will induce on July 22nd.....regardless of

c-section or pitocin. July 22nd puts me at 38.1 weeks, so he doesn't

have til week 40 to turn himself. I'm going to look up some

exercises that may help him flip.....

Any suggestions?

Lori~

July 5, 2002