Guest guest Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Hi everyone, My dad (68 years old, colonoscopy 2 years ago removed benign polyp, father died of colon cancer at age 57) was diagnosed with stage IV to the liver and had surgery to remove the polyp on 5/16/04. The took out 14.2 cm including part of the ileum and cecum. Liver is involved, both lobes, not resectable according to surgeon. They put in a port-a-cath on 5/20 and released him from the hospital on 5/21. Surgeon dicharged him and said to eat regular food and sent him home w/ Tylenol w/ codeine for pain! He vomited on 5/22 and had no appetite, didn't really eat after that and was readmitted yesterday 5/25 with severe dehydration and jaundice. I just flew in from the west coast last night and spent today getting a hold of all his medical records and talking to various people at the hospital. They had him on a full liquid diet but he still threw up (pudding? how is pudding liquid?) and mostly mucous after the pudding. Finally started the TPN IV at 6 pm, gave him morphine for pain and Reglan for nausea. I don't know how he will be able to get any treatment when he is so weak. I have made an appt at Sloan Kettering for June 14 to see specialist for cc with liver mets. I am worried he will not be well enough (they wanted to wait 4 weeks post surgery for appt and when I made it, he was about to be discharged and I thought he would be on his way to recovery). I want to get him out of that hospital and somewhere else. There is a lot more info but I will start with this, does anyone have advice or suggestions, I have only been home 24 hours and feeling like I cannot do this alone. At least I did get my hands on all his records, mainly because the medical records person was so great and I also went to Patient Relations. Sorry this is so all over the place, tried to get in the pertinent info for now. Thanks for any help, Ellen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 Ellen, I am so sorry that you have need to be here,but you have definitely come to the right place to find support and good advice.The people on this board are all very compassionate and willing to share their knowledge and experiences,so welcome. Now,take a deep breath and slow down long enough to absorb the information and have a serious conversation with your dad about his wishes and his choices.Because as hard as it is,as caregivers,not only do we need to educate ourselves about the disease and the options,we have to know & support the patient and his/her choices. You've made a good start in getting records,have you read them?It may be a good idea to sit down with his doctor and have the diagnosis explained more fully.There is much variation in a stage IV diagnosis and this will determine what your father's options are.Many options do exist to extend the length of quality time for even those with poor prognosis so you are wise to seek the opinion of a good oncologist at a major center. About him being so weak,this is totally normal.A bowel resection is MAJOR abdominal surgery. It takes the body a minimum of 4-6 weeks to heal from any major surgery(the muscles,tissue and organs that have been cut or manipulated during the procedure)it can take even longer to gain strength back-and that's when a body is otherwise healthy! And,just for your info,a full liquid diet includes anything that is primarily a milk or clear based liquid,ie.milk,juices,ice cream,cream soups, pudding,yogurt,ensure,etc.as well as clear liquids of apple juice,broth,tea and jello. Hugs & Prayers, H S/O 'Hubby'52,diagnosed 7/31/03 inoperable stage IV, 5/20/04 CT scans show significant progression of disease,CEA^1060, discontinued 3rd-line chemo(avastin/cpt-11/5fu/lv) Awaiting " Plan D " > Hi everyone, > My dad (68 years old, colonoscopy 2 years ago removed benign polyp, > father died of colon cancer at age 57) was diagnosed with stage IV > to the liver and had surgery to remove the polyp on 5/16/04. The > took out 14.2 cm including part of the ileum and cecum. Liver is > involved, both lobes, not resectable according to surgeon. They put > in a port-a-cath on 5/20 and released him from the hospital on > 5/21. Surgeon dicharged him and said to eat regular food and sent > him home w/ Tylenol w/ codeine for pain! He vomited on 5/22 and had > no appetite, didn't really eat after that and was readmitted > yesterday 5/25 with severe dehydration and jaundice. I just flew in > from the west coast last night and spent today getting a hold of all > his medical records and talking to various people at the hospital. > They had him on a full liquid diet but he still threw up (pudding? > how is pudding liquid?) and mostly mucous after the pudding. > Finally started the TPN IV at 6 pm, gave him morphine for pain and > Reglan for nausea. I don't know how he will be able to get any > treatment when he is so weak. I have made an appt at Sloan > Kettering for June 14 to see specialist for cc with liver mets. I > am worried he will not be well enough (they wanted to wait 4 weeks > post surgery for appt and when I made it, he was about to be > discharged and I thought he would be on his way to recovery). I > want to get him out of that hospital and somewhere else. There is a > lot more info but I will start with this, does anyone have advice or > suggestions, I have only been home 24 hours and feeling like I > cannot do this alone. At least I did get my hands on all his > records, mainly because the medical records person was so great and > I also went to Patient Relations. > > Sorry this is so all over the place, tried to get in the pertinent > info for now. > > Thanks for any help, > Ellen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 Ellen, I am so sorry that you have need to be here,but you have definitely come to the right place to find support and good advice.The people on this board are all very compassionate and willing to share their knowledge and experiences,so welcome. Now,take a deep breath and slow down long enough to absorb the information and have a serious conversation with your dad about his wishes and his choices.Because as hard as it is,as caregivers,not only do we need to educate ourselves about the disease and the options,we have to know & support the patient and his/her choices. You've made a good start in getting records,have you read them?It may be a good idea to sit down with his doctor and have the diagnosis explained more fully.There is much variation in a stage IV diagnosis and this will determine what your father's options are.Many options do exist to extend the length of quality time for even those with poor prognosis so you are wise to seek the opinion of a good oncologist at a major center. About him being so weak,this is totally normal.A bowel resection is MAJOR abdominal surgery. It takes the body a minimum of 4-6 weeks to heal from any major surgery(the muscles,tissue and organs that have been cut or manipulated during the procedure)it can take even longer to gain strength back-and that's when a body is otherwise healthy! And,just for your info,a full liquid diet includes anything that is primarily a milk or clear based liquid,ie.milk,juices,ice cream,cream soups, pudding,yogurt,ensure,etc.as well as clear liquids of apple juice,broth,tea and jello. Hugs & Prayers, H S/O 'Hubby'52,diagnosed 7/31/03 inoperable stage IV, 5/20/04 CT scans show significant progression of disease,CEA^1060, discontinued 3rd-line chemo(avastin/cpt-11/5fu/lv) Awaiting " Plan D " > Hi everyone, > My dad (68 years old, colonoscopy 2 years ago removed benign polyp, > father died of colon cancer at age 57) was diagnosed with stage IV > to the liver and had surgery to remove the polyp on 5/16/04. The > took out 14.2 cm including part of the ileum and cecum. Liver is > involved, both lobes, not resectable according to surgeon. They put > in a port-a-cath on 5/20 and released him from the hospital on > 5/21. Surgeon dicharged him and said to eat regular food and sent > him home w/ Tylenol w/ codeine for pain! He vomited on 5/22 and had > no appetite, didn't really eat after that and was readmitted > yesterday 5/25 with severe dehydration and jaundice. I just flew in > from the west coast last night and spent today getting a hold of all > his medical records and talking to various people at the hospital. > They had him on a full liquid diet but he still threw up (pudding? > how is pudding liquid?) and mostly mucous after the pudding. > Finally started the TPN IV at 6 pm, gave him morphine for pain and > Reglan for nausea. I don't know how he will be able to get any > treatment when he is so weak. I have made an appt at Sloan > Kettering for June 14 to see specialist for cc with liver mets. I > am worried he will not be well enough (they wanted to wait 4 weeks > post surgery for appt and when I made it, he was about to be > discharged and I thought he would be on his way to recovery). I > want to get him out of that hospital and somewhere else. There is a > lot more info but I will start with this, does anyone have advice or > suggestions, I have only been home 24 hours and feeling like I > cannot do this alone. At least I did get my hands on all his > records, mainly because the medical records person was so great and > I also went to Patient Relations. > > Sorry this is so all over the place, tried to get in the pertinent > info for now. > > Thanks for any help, > Ellen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 Ellen, I am so sorry that you have need to be here,but you have definitely come to the right place to find support and good advice.The people on this board are all very compassionate and willing to share their knowledge and experiences,so welcome. Now,take a deep breath and slow down long enough to absorb the information and have a serious conversation with your dad about his wishes and his choices.Because as hard as it is,as caregivers,not only do we need to educate ourselves about the disease and the options,we have to know & support the patient and his/her choices. You've made a good start in getting records,have you read them?It may be a good idea to sit down with his doctor and have the diagnosis explained more fully.There is much variation in a stage IV diagnosis and this will determine what your father's options are.Many options do exist to extend the length of quality time for even those with poor prognosis so you are wise to seek the opinion of a good oncologist at a major center. About him being so weak,this is totally normal.A bowel resection is MAJOR abdominal surgery. It takes the body a minimum of 4-6 weeks to heal from any major surgery(the muscles,tissue and organs that have been cut or manipulated during the procedure)it can take even longer to gain strength back-and that's when a body is otherwise healthy! And,just for your info,a full liquid diet includes anything that is primarily a milk or clear based liquid,ie.milk,juices,ice cream,cream soups, pudding,yogurt,ensure,etc.as well as clear liquids of apple juice,broth,tea and jello. Hugs & Prayers, H S/O 'Hubby'52,diagnosed 7/31/03 inoperable stage IV, 5/20/04 CT scans show significant progression of disease,CEA^1060, discontinued 3rd-line chemo(avastin/cpt-11/5fu/lv) Awaiting " Plan D " > Hi everyone, > My dad (68 years old, colonoscopy 2 years ago removed benign polyp, > father died of colon cancer at age 57) was diagnosed with stage IV > to the liver and had surgery to remove the polyp on 5/16/04. The > took out 14.2 cm including part of the ileum and cecum. Liver is > involved, both lobes, not resectable according to surgeon. They put > in a port-a-cath on 5/20 and released him from the hospital on > 5/21. Surgeon dicharged him and said to eat regular food and sent > him home w/ Tylenol w/ codeine for pain! He vomited on 5/22 and had > no appetite, didn't really eat after that and was readmitted > yesterday 5/25 with severe dehydration and jaundice. I just flew in > from the west coast last night and spent today getting a hold of all > his medical records and talking to various people at the hospital. > They had him on a full liquid diet but he still threw up (pudding? > how is pudding liquid?) and mostly mucous after the pudding. > Finally started the TPN IV at 6 pm, gave him morphine for pain and > Reglan for nausea. I don't know how he will be able to get any > treatment when he is so weak. I have made an appt at Sloan > Kettering for June 14 to see specialist for cc with liver mets. I > am worried he will not be well enough (they wanted to wait 4 weeks > post surgery for appt and when I made it, he was about to be > discharged and I thought he would be on his way to recovery). I > want to get him out of that hospital and somewhere else. There is a > lot more info but I will start with this, does anyone have advice or > suggestions, I have only been home 24 hours and feeling like I > cannot do this alone. At least I did get my hands on all his > records, mainly because the medical records person was so great and > I also went to Patient Relations. > > Sorry this is so all over the place, tried to get in the pertinent > info for now. > > Thanks for any help, > Ellen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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