How to calculate the rT3-ratio?

[Guest guest]

I wrote a long first post here. I thought I'd post this second much shorter one

to even get a reply!

If someone could be so kind and do the ratio (rt3 and

t3, or rt3 and ft3, your choice!) I would be very, very grateful.

My latest labs are:

FT4 - 14.0 pmol (ref. 8.0 - 20.0 pmol/l)

FT3 - 5.9 pmol (ref. 3.5 - 7.8 pmol/l)

TSH - 0.76 (ref. 0.5 - 3.6 mlE/l)

Tyroxine - 117 (ref. 60 - 150 nmol/l)

Trijodtyronine - 2.2 (ref. 1.2 - 2.7 nmol/l)

Reverse T3 - 0.38 nmol (ref. 0.14 - 0.54 nmol/l)

Thanks!

- Starting on ERFA Thyroid tomorrow morning. Wonder if I might have

rT3-issues!

[Guest guest]

Your ratio is 15.5 which is not horrible but not where it shoudl be

either. Sorry I misssed your first post I have had lkots to do to day so

have been away from the computer nd was away for several hours yesterdya

for my birthday dn a talk internet show.

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

I find Yahoo groups to me heard to learn how to read!

Did anybody reply to my original message?

>

> I wrote a long first post here. I thought I'd post this second much shorter

one to even get a reply!

>

> If someone could be so kind and do the ratio (rt3 and

> t3, or rt3 and ft3, your choice!) I would be very, very grateful.

>

> My latest labs are:

>

> FT4 - 14.0 pmol (ref. 8.0 - 20.0 pmol/l)

> FT3 - 5.9 pmol (ref. 3.5 - 7.8 pmol/l)

> TSH - 0.76 (ref. 0.5 - 3.6 mlE/l)

> Tyroxine - 117 (ref. 60 - 150 nmol/l)

> Trijodtyronine - 2.2 (ref. 1.2 - 2.7 nmol/l)

> Reverse T3 - 0.38 nmol (ref. 0.14 - 0.54 nmol/l)

>

> Thanks!

> - Starting on ERFA Thyroid tomorrow morning. Wonder if I might have

rT3-issues!

>

[Guest guest]

I find Yahoo groups to me heard to learn how to read!

Did anybody reply to my original message?

>

> I wrote a long first post here. I thought I'd post this second much shorter

one to even get a reply!

>

> If someone could be so kind and do the ratio (rt3 and

> t3, or rt3 and ft3, your choice!) I would be very, very grateful.

>

> My latest labs are:

>

> FT4 - 14.0 pmol (ref. 8.0 - 20.0 pmol/l)

> FT3 - 5.9 pmol (ref. 3.5 - 7.8 pmol/l)

> TSH - 0.76 (ref. 0.5 - 3.6 mlE/l)

> Tyroxine - 117 (ref. 60 - 150 nmol/l)

> Trijodtyronine - 2.2 (ref. 1.2 - 2.7 nmol/l)

> Reverse T3 - 0.38 nmol (ref. 0.14 - 0.54 nmol/l)

>

> Thanks!

> - Starting on ERFA Thyroid tomorrow morning. Wonder if I might have

rT3-issues!

>

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

Thanks for replying!

Well last month the ratio was 18.5.

I started takign ERFA Thyroid 3 days ago and I feel less sleepy now. So good

things are happening, this far.

After a few weeks, I will know more about if this is the right thing for me or

not. If ERFA Thyroid makes me feel worse, I need to to T3 only with my HC.

>

> Your ratio is 15.5 which is not horrible but not where it shoudl be

> either. Sorry I misssed your first post I have had lkots to do to day so

> have been away from the computer nd was away for several hours yesterdya

> for my birthday dn a talk internet show.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

[Guest guest]

>Did anybody reply to my original message?

I did!

Nick

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Thanks for replying and giving me an answer. I got something like 15 too. How

does this work - Why do most people have an rT3 between 0.14 and 0.54 nmol/l

(these are the reference levels here in Norway) and feel normal? Let's say if a

normal, healthy guy has an FT3 of 7 and an rT3 of 0.55, his ratio would be like

13. And he still feels healthy. How is this possible? Cause all people have rT3!

I remember a blood test from back in the spring. I had an rT3 of 0.55. I don't

remember my FT3 but I am sure it was not very high. Maybe around 5.5 or

something. That would give me a ratio of 10 or something.

I am trying to understand how rT3 works, and why most people feel perfectly

normal with rT3 in their blood.

I just had a horrible experince. I posted about it " What's wrong with me

head??? " a few moments ago. I've had pressure in my head all day long, and

suddenly BOOM a huge pressure-wave hit my head and I felt like I was gonna die.

It was like an extreme case of dizziness I've never felt before. - Can this be

rT3, like it's increasing after I started taking ERFA Thyroid 5 days ago? I felt

better in the first 4 days on ERFA Thyroid than I've felt in a long time!

I am just scared now... I've been fighting for 2 years... So much pain and

suffering...

Best Regards,

in Norway

>

> Your ratio is 15.5 which is not horrible but not where it shoudl be

> either. Sorry I misssed your first post I have had lkots to do to day so

> have been away from the computer nd was away for several hours yesterdya

> for my birthday dn a talk internet show.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

[Guest guest]

Because NORMAL peopel have a Ft3 near the top of the range and RT3

middle range or lower. The ratio is MUCH differnt for thise people and

if it si below 20 VERY soon they wil NOT feel normal.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

Because NORMAL peopel have a Ft3 near the top of the range and RT3

middle range or lower. The ratio is MUCH differnt for thise people and

if it si below 20 VERY soon they wil NOT feel normal.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

Because NORMAL peopel have a Ft3 near the top of the range and RT3

middle range or lower. The ratio is MUCH differnt for thise people and

if it si below 20 VERY soon they wil NOT feel normal.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

Ahhh thanks for clearing that up for me! VERY interesting! You live and you

learn! I want to check the rT3 of my wife. She is skinny and fit, no diseases,

perfection. I already checked her FT3, it's 5.0, lower than mine. But she

probably has a very low rT3.

Thanks Val!

>

> Because NORMAL peopel have a Ft3 near the top of the range and RT3

> middle range or lower. The ratio is MUCH differnt for thise people and

> if it si below 20 VERY soon they wil NOT feel normal.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

[Guest guest]

Ahhh thanks for clearing that up for me! VERY interesting! You live and you

learn! I want to check the rT3 of my wife. She is skinny and fit, no diseases,

perfection. I already checked her FT3, it's 5.0, lower than mine. But she

probably has a very low rT3.

Thanks Val!

>

> Because NORMAL peopel have a Ft3 near the top of the range and RT3

> middle range or lower. The ratio is MUCH differnt for thise people and

> if it si below 20 VERY soon they wil NOT feel normal.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

[Guest guest]

I'm really starting to get the whole thing. How about this: I do

ERFA Thyroid, 1 grain daily, for a few more days. Take a blood test,

get that rT3-result in 1 week. And if it's even worse or the same,

I go straight to T3-only meds!

My ratio is 14.9. Is it possible to feel normal with that ratio?

Can a healthy person POSSIBLY have this ratio at ALL?

>

> Because NORMAL peopel have a Ft3 near the top of the range and RT3

> middle range or lower. The ratio is MUCH differnt for thise people and

> if it si below 20 VERY soon they wil NOT feel normal.

>

[Guest guest]

I'm really starting to get the whole thing. How about this: I do

ERFA Thyroid, 1 grain daily, for a few more days. Take a blood test,

get that rT3-result in 1 week. And if it's even worse or the same,

I go straight to T3-only meds!

My ratio is 14.9. Is it possible to feel normal with that ratio?

Can a healthy person POSSIBLY have this ratio at ALL?

>

> Because NORMAL peopel have a Ft3 near the top of the range and RT3

> middle range or lower. The ratio is MUCH differnt for thise people and

> if it si below 20 VERY soon they wil NOT feel normal.

>

[Guest guest]

I'm really starting to get the whole thing. How about this: I do

ERFA Thyroid, 1 grain daily, for a few more days. Take a blood test,

get that rT3-result in 1 week. And if it's even worse or the same,

I go straight to T3-only meds!

My ratio is 14.9. Is it possible to feel normal with that ratio?

Can a healthy person POSSIBLY have this ratio at ALL?

>

> Because NORMAL peopel have a Ft3 near the top of the range and RT3

> middle range or lower. The ratio is MUCH differnt for thise people and

> if it si below 20 VERY soon they wil NOT feel normal.

>

[Guest guest]

Forgot to say Happy Birthday Val!! And I downloaded that talkshow rt3-show!

T.

>

> Your ratio is 15.5 which is not horrible but not where it shoudl be

> either. Sorry I misssed your first post I have had lkots to do to day so

> have been away from the computer nd was away for several hours yesterdya

> for my birthday dn a talk internet show.

[Guest guest]

Forgot to say Happy Birthday Val!! And I downloaded that talkshow rt3-show!

T.

>

> Your ratio is 15.5 which is not horrible but not where it shoudl be

> either. Sorry I misssed your first post I have had lkots to do to day so

> have been away from the computer nd was away for several hours yesterdya

> for my birthday dn a talk internet show.

[Guest guest]

No it is not possible for healthy person ot have thta ratio. It will

block too much T3 from reachign the cells.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

No it is not possible for healthy person ot have thta ratio. It will

block too much T3 from reachign the cells.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

No it is not possible for healthy person ot have thta ratio. It will

block too much T3 from reachign the cells.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

Why are you reluctant to go to T3 only?

Regards,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

Re: How to calculate the rT3-ratio?

I'm really starting to get the whole thing. How about this: I doERFA Thyroid, 1 grain daily, for a few more days. Take a blood test,get that rT3-result in 1 week. And if it's even worse or the same,I go straight to T3-only meds!My ratio is 14.9. Is it possible to feel normal with that ratio?Can a healthy person POSSIBLY have this ratio at ALL?>> Because NORMAL peopel have a Ft3 near the top of the range and RT3 > middle range or lower. The ratio is MUCH differnt for thise people and > if it si below 20 VERY soon they wil NOT feel normal.>

[Guest guest]

Why are you reluctant to go to T3 only?

Regards,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

Re: How to calculate the rT3-ratio?

I'm really starting to get the whole thing. How about this: I doERFA Thyroid, 1 grain daily, for a few more days. Take a blood test,get that rT3-result in 1 week. And if it's even worse or the same,I go straight to T3-only meds!My ratio is 14.9. Is it possible to feel normal with that ratio?Can a healthy person POSSIBLY have this ratio at ALL?>> Because NORMAL peopel have a Ft3 near the top of the range and RT3 > middle range or lower. The ratio is MUCH differnt for thise people and > if it si below 20 VERY soon they wil NOT feel normal.>

[Guest guest]

Why are you reluctant to go to T3 only?

Regards,

Lea Ann Savage

Satellite Beach, FL

Re: How to calculate the rT3-ratio?

I'm really starting to get the whole thing. How about this: I doERFA Thyroid, 1 grain daily, for a few more days. Take a blood test,get that rT3-result in 1 week. And if it's even worse or the same,I go straight to T3-only meds!My ratio is 14.9. Is it possible to feel normal with that ratio?Can a healthy person POSSIBLY have this ratio at ALL?>> Because NORMAL peopel have a Ft3 near the top of the range and RT3 > middle range or lower. The ratio is MUCH differnt for thise people and > if it si below 20 VERY soon they wil NOT feel normal.>

[Guest guest]

I'm not. I just wanted to try ERFA Thyroid. 1 grain does not make me

feel good, that's for sure. Either it's too little (it is too little anyway)

or it's rT3 doing this!

I have one bad experience after being on T3 and T4 combo for 4 years,

up til 2008. Atrial fibrillation. My Ferritin was at 166, so it was not

the Ferritin. It COULD'VE been low cortisol, causing T3 to not enter

the cells.... What do you guys think of this theory? So I am a little

worried about taking T3, yes. But not reluctant!

I understand it might be the only way to feel better! BUT I also

worry about the low ferritin I have (now at 53, though without stopping

iron-intake before I did the test!) . . . and I'm probably not on

enough HC yet either!

T.

>

> Why are you reluctant to go to T3 only?

>

> Regards,

> Lea Ann Savage

[Guest guest]

I'm not. I just wanted to try ERFA Thyroid. 1 grain does not make me

feel good, that's for sure. Either it's too little (it is too little anyway)

or it's rT3 doing this!

I have one bad experience after being on T3 and T4 combo for 4 years,

up til 2008. Atrial fibrillation. My Ferritin was at 166, so it was not

the Ferritin. It COULD'VE been low cortisol, causing T3 to not enter

the cells.... What do you guys think of this theory? So I am a little

worried about taking T3, yes. But not reluctant!

I understand it might be the only way to feel better! BUT I also

worry about the low ferritin I have (now at 53, though without stopping

iron-intake before I did the test!) . . . and I'm probably not on

enough HC yet either!

T.

>

> Why are you reluctant to go to T3 only?

>

> Regards,

> Lea Ann Savage