Re: Hold That Advice on Exercise and Afib

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In a message dated 3/20/2004 7:09:38 PM Pacific Standard Time,

zanylbec@... writes:

<< Vagal affibers

benefit from vigorous aerobics sometimes converting and adregenetics

DO NOT, I emphasize DO NOT. So the key in my humble opinion is to try

to determine which typwe you are and act accordingly. If you are

adregenetic type afibber the exercise may help put you into afib and

keep you there so watch out. >>

Zany,

Not all vagal afibbers benefit from vigorous aerobics all the time. In fact,

this vagal afibber has been thrown into afib by exercise as simple as bending

over to tie my shoe or pick up a fallen item. This never happens now, but

there was a time when I was having afib frequently that various postures or

activities such as bending over would trigger afib. Conversion to sinus through

exercise has been quite rare for me. Also, I know another afibber who seems to

be vagal but can't walk up the stairs without going into afib.

Also, in my humble and nonprofessional opinion, I think the best advice one

could give on the Internet would be to ignore advice you receive on the

Internet and to ask your own doctor, who knows your medical history for advice.

Some doctors don't recognize a distinction between vagal and adrenergic afib and

may base their advice on factors that we nonprofessional folk cannot assess,

such as overall heart health. My doctors have given me approval for unlimited

exercise, despite the fact that my afib is primarily vagal but with some

adrenergic episodes, too. Thus I think the key is not to arbitrarily decide on

our own which type of afibber we are and base decisions about exercise on our

own nonprofessional opinions, but rather to seek professional advice from a

qualified doctor before embarking on an exercise program.

in sinus in Seattle

[Guest guest]

>

> Zany,

> Not all vagal afibbers benefit from vigorous aerobics all the

time. In fact,

> this vagal afibber has been thrown into afib by exercise as simple

as bending

> over to tie my shoe or pick up a fallen item. This never happens

now, but

> there was a time when I was having afib frequently that various

postures or

> activities such as bending over would trigger afib. Conversion to

sinus through

> exercise has been quite rare for me. Also, I know another afibber

who seems to

> be vagal but can't walk up the stairs without going into afib.

>

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Star

As always you are a light to the rest of us and a bringer of sane

thoughts. However in this case I think that there is a something to

be gained frome trying to understand your own strain of afib to the

extant possible. (put it into a class)

My doctors always seem to be slightly behind the curve on suggesting

treatmet or alternative scenarios in fact they love my suggestions

for my own treatment. " You may be your own best doctor "

By the way you never commented on my harrowing experience on near

soffocation by med staff while undergoing another electric cardio.

I was very upset by that eposode and wrote here to get some measure

of comfort.

your afibber pal

Ed B in sinus

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/21/2004 6:46:03 AM Pacific Standard Time,

zanylbec@... writes:

<< By the way you never commented on my harrowing experience on near

soffocation by med staff while undergoing another electric cardio.

I was very upset by that eposode and wrote here to get some measure

of comfort. >>

Ed,

What a horrific experience! I'm sorry I missed commenting on it. I don't

always have time on a given day to write, and I think I accidentally deleted the

message. Your experience certainly adds reinforcement to my decision to

undergo cardioversion only if I am absolutely desperate! Thank God, I haven't

been desperate yet. I'm sure you're thankful that you survived!

I definitely see the value in each afibber trying to understand his or her

own type of afib, but I think sometimes it is difficult to categorize,

especially in my case. I am definitely vagal because vasovagal stimulation

plays such

a big role in most of my episodes. However, many of my afib episodes have

been caused by situations of high stress, sometimes immediately and sometimes

after the stress had passed. For this reason, I think I am also adrenergic.

But

it is definitely through my ongoing efforts to analyze and understand my afib

that I have been able to reduce my afib episodes to rare occurrences. I

would encourage others to analyze life style, diet, medication, and activities

in

relation to afib as I have done.

in sinus in Seattle

[Guest guest]

> Ed,

> What a horrific experience! I'm sorry I missed commenting on it.

I don't

> always have time on a given day to write, and I think I

accidentally deleted the

> message. Your experience certainly adds reinforcement to my

decision to

> undergo cardioversion only if I am absolutely desperate! Thank

God, I haven't

> been desperate yet. I'm sure you're thankful that you survived!

>

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Star

Thanks for replying now I feel better.

If you want to read the original account it was posted on Sat 3/13/04.

I am writing to the hopital to everybody who is anybody for an

explanation of what went wrong. At least I need that Doctors name tro

ensure he stays away from me! Well stay warm and go to bed early ..

(home recipe: chilling with some music and earphones while in a warm

bed helps convert me)

Zany