Guest guest Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Robbie, My heart goes out to you! 7.8 is a number to be concerned about, though, it's definitely low and requires quick supplementation - start with whatever you've got (that's SCD legal). Right now, any SCD legal iron will be good for him, and iron is not a wimpy mineral (chelated or not), you can sneak it into a smoothie or hamburger if you need to and it doesn't break down very easily (just crush the pill and mix it in, but avoid high heat cooking if you can). Iron is best absorbed with Vitamin C, so make sure he drinks some juice of some kind every time he takes it. Iron can be irritating to a healing gut (iron supplements looked at under a microscope are actually little metal filings), so frequent small doses with food and juice will be easier for him. Little things will help, too, like cooking with cast iron cookware. Food sources of iron include red meats, organ meats, beans (can he eat these yet?), oranges (not so much in the juice), etc. and are better absorbed than any supplement, but in smaller amounts. Once his hemoglobin is above 9 you can start breathing a little easier, and above 10.5 many practitioners will back off on treatment and you can start to rely more on food sources and less on supplements. Good for you for catching it! You are a good Mom, Robbie, remember that... Namaste, Anne Rhody > is my UC 4 yr old who has been SCD almost 5 months. He had some illegals recently in the form of supplements because his UC got out of control after weaning off prednisone and I was desperate (long story). He then got a nasty intestinal virus and I took him off all the illegals, so he's been legal again for about 3 wks. > > Well, he had a followup with his gi doctor and had bloodwork - he's very anemic. 7.8 and is supposed to be an 11 - he wants him to take 700mg of Iron FE a DAY. What should I do? I have a chelated chewable iron but it's got sorbitol in it - I really need a good iron that won't tear his gut up and I don't want him on illegals again... any suggestions? I have water oz, too, but I know many think a chelated would be better. > > By the way, his GI upped his sulfa drug to 2000mg a day and it's helped a lot, from 15x a day to 3-4. > > Thank you... you can email direct if you want robbie@ littlebritchesboutique.com (delete space). > > Robbie > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Thank you so much. Sometimes I feel so helpless - and everyone seems to have 'the answer' from the GI, SCD, the alternative practitioner, and all contradict each other. I feel like I have to 2nd guess them all - except SCD but by itself it wasn't getting better and he will only do the intro diet for 2 days - he's only 4 and limiting so much food (no this type of fruit, no amond flour, no cheese, no this no that) is just too much for him - he gets really depressed and I'm afraid he will sneak food from friend's moms. He's so good about his diet and so good to refuse food he knows isn't on the diet - and he's happy with SCD as it is, but the intro and other limitations to it just make him really sad, and me, too. So, I really only went to the alternative practitioner because she said she could determine if he has c.diff. He tested negative, but she says she can really help him if I will just give her two months, that's all. Wow, that seems too good to pass up - BUT is it ruining all the work I've put in to SCD? Will it make him worse? What if it doesn't work? Well, he was flaring so badly I decided to try what she says - mainly illegal supplements and a homeopathic concoction, and he gets this intestinal virus (I know it was viral because the baby got it, too). I cringed at the thought of him being on illegals but just for two months, right? He seemed to respond positively to the treatment at first, but then he got the virus... The GI then wants him to take toxic drugs, but what choice do I have? I finally got his meds legal during the virus attack - the compounding pharmacy couldn't figure out a way to make them legal in a syrup - so since he can now take pills, I had them compound his medicine in 100mg capsules, which he takes 10 at a time. So, now he's completely legal again - tho he's really never been completely legal because his meds weren't legal. So, really, I guess he's never been completely SCD. Maybe I should say we're on day one because I forgot about water oz before I gave the chelated chewable yesterday, which has sorbitol in it... but after the call from the GI doc about his anemia, I just paniced and gave him one. I don't really feel like a good mom - I feel desperate, alone, and very helpless and not even really sure what the right decision is for . SCD worked so well at first - I just don't know what happened unless the illegal syrup in the meds just kept him from getting better. And through it all it almost landed him in the hospital again. Ok, I didn't get on here to ramble on but I did anyway. Thank you for letting me vent... I'm also not being very objective because confusion and desperation are clouding my judgement so any encouragement or testimonials are welcome as I'm teetering on the edge. Robbie Robbie, My heart goes out to you! 7.8 is a number to be concerned about, though, it's definitely low and requires quick supplementation - start with whatever you've got (that's SCD legal). Right now, any SCD legal iron will be good for him, and iron is not a wimpy mineral (chelated or not), you can sneak it into a smoothie or hamburger if you need to and it doesn't break down very easily (just crush the pill and mix it in, but avoid high heat cooking if you can). Iron is best absorbed with Vitamin C, so make sure he drinks some juice of some kind every time he takes it. Iron can be irritating to a healing gut (iron supplements looked at under a microscope are actually little metal filings), so frequent small doses with food and juice will be easier for him. Little things will help, too, like cooking with cast iron cookware. Food sources of iron include red meats, organ meats, beans (can he eat these yet?), oranges (not so much in the juice), etc. and are better absorbed than any supplement, but in smaller amounts. Once his hemoglobin is above 9 you can start breathing a little easier, and above 10.5 many practitioners will back off on treatment and you can start to rely more on food sources and less on supplements. Good for you for catching it! You are a good Mom, Robbie, remember that... Namaste, Anne Rhody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 robbie, you were there for me a month ago when i didn't know whether or not to put my son on prednisone and 6 mp for his colitis. you helped ME so much to get my son back on track and have the confidence that the diet would help with his inflammation. thanks you your suggestions, my son is doing much better and i do not regret not giving him the meds. (the meds were only full of side effefcts for him) Now, i'd like to cheer you on and say.....you can do this. hang in there and really take a look at how you can get him close to 100% compliance. good luck and be well. kim (mom to charlee, asd, 8, scd 6 months) Re: Re: Desperately need help.... > > Thank you so much. Sometimes I feel so helpless - and everyone > seems to have 'the answer' from the GI, SCD, the alternative > practitioner, and all contradict each other. I feel like I have > to 2nd guess them all - except SCD but by itself it wasn't getting > better and he will only do the intro diet for 2 days - he's > only 4 and limiting so much food (no this type of fruit, no amond > flour, no cheese, no this no that) is just too much for him - he > gets really depressed and I'm afraid he will sneak food from > friend's moms. He's so good about his diet and so good to refuse > food he knows isn't on the diet - and he's happy with SCD as it > is, but the intro and other limitations to it just make him really > sad, and me, too. > > So, I really only went to the alternative practitioner because she > said she could determine if he has c.diff. He tested negative, > but she says she can really help him if I will just give her two > months, that's all. Wow, that seems too good to pass up - BUT is > it ruining all the work I've put in to SCD? Will it make him > worse? What if it doesn't work? Well, he was flaring so badly I > decided to try what she says - mainly illegal supplements and a > homeopathic concoction, and he gets this intestinal virus (I know > it was viral because the baby got it, too). I cringed at the > thought of him being on illegals but just for two months, right? > He seemed to respond positively to the treatment at first, but > then he got the virus... > > The GI then wants him to take toxic drugs, but what choice do I > have? I finally got his meds legal during the virus attack - the > compounding pharmacy couldn't figure out a way to make them legal > in a syrup - so since he can now take pills, I had them compound > his medicine in 100mg capsules, which he takes 10 at a time. So, > now he's completely legal again - tho he's really never been > completely legal because his meds weren't legal. > > So, really, I guess he's never been completely SCD. Maybe I > should say we're on day one because I forgot about water oz before > I gave the chelated chewable yesterday, which has sorbitol in > it... but after the call from the GI doc about his anemia, I just > paniced and gave him one. I don't really feel like a good mom - I > feel desperate, alone, and very helpless and not even really sure > what the right decision is for . > > SCD worked so well at first - I just don't know what happened > unless the illegal syrup in the meds just kept him from getting > better. And through it all it almost landed him in the hospital > again. > > Ok, I didn't get on here to ramble on but I did anyway. Thank you > for letting me vent... I'm also not being very objective because > confusion and desperation are clouding my judgement so any > encouragement or testimonials are welcome as I'm teetering on the > edge. > Robbie > > Robbie, > > My heart goes out to you! 7.8 is a number to be concerned about, > though, it's definitely low and requires quick supplementation - > start with whatever you've got (that's SCD legal). Right now, > any > SCD legal iron will be good for him, and iron is not a wimpy > mineral > (chelated or not), you can sneak it into a smoothie or hamburger > if > you need to and it doesn't break down very easily (just crush > the > pill and mix it in, but avoid high heat cooking if you can). > Iron is > best absorbed with Vitamin C, so make sure he drinks some juice > of > some kind every time he takes it. Iron can be irritating to a > healing gut (iron supplements looked at under a microscope are > actually little metal filings), so frequent small doses with > food > and juice will be easier for him. Little things will help, too, > like > cooking with cast iron cookware. Food sources of iron include > red > meats, organ meats, beans (can he eat these yet?), oranges (not > so > much in the juice), etc. and are better absorbed than any > supplement, but in smaller amounts. > > Once his hemoglobin is above 9 you can start breathing a little > easier, and above 10.5 many practitioners will back off on > treatment > and you can start to rely more on food sources and less on > supplements. > > Good for you for catching it! You are a good Mom, Robbie, > remember > that... > > Namaste, > Anne Rhody > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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