Just Wondering

[Guest guest]

Hi,

i also had lower moved forward due to an overbite, and not banded,

wired etc- just screwed too!

I am now at 8 day mark and my swelling has really gone down. It went

down mostly at about day 6. I am still swollen but just look like i

have a 'fat' face- not like the Nutty Professor which i used to. I

even went in public!

I was ok eating- my mum got me a baby spoon which i could just fit

through my teeth and was eating soups, baby pasta, blended mashed

potato and carrot with honey (yum try it!) and even really small cut

up chicken which i didnt chew but just swallowed!

I was also talking alot from day 1- i think that helps a little, just

so your mouth gets used to moving a bit and so it is easier when it

comes to eating time.

The mouth wash my surgeon gave me has alcohol in it, so i'm not sure

you should worry too much- it really helps to keep the stiches clean

and breath better. I have also been brushing with a baby toothbrush

which helps with breath and makes you feel cleaner!

I was the one who posted about thrush, i just got some stuff from the

chemist an in 1 day its almost gone. Look in the leaflet in the

antibiotic box- thats where it said the side effects (which included

thrush) but i am in australia so it may be different.

Hang in- in a couple of days you will feel 300% better- trust me i

know- day 4/5 was my worst 2 days, and then the next day i felt

perfect (well not perfect- but heaps better)

good luck

ask anymore questions, because i've probably just been through it a

couple of days before you!

jaimi

> Thanks for answering. I wasnt sure how fast this message gorup

would

> take. Anyways, now that you have told me..i cannot wait until the

2-

> week mark. I can't eat ...but i have been drinking a little. I

know

> that i should drink more because i DONT want to go back into the

> hospital for dehydration, but...ugh, i really do hate drinking

> stuff. The only thing that I drank before the surgery was

> water...now i have to drink sodas and fruity drinks...and normally,

> they arent too bad, but since they are being forced on me..i really

> hate them. I really want to start drinking atleast 1 cup of

> something every hour...currently i'm not even doing that. Maybe 1

> cup every 3 hours.

>

> Anyways, im not splinted, wired, or banded..just screwed, lol.

That

> sounds funny, but i have 4 screws in me i think...but nothing

else.

> SO i guess i'm lucky in that way. Whew, thanks for telling me not

to

> use mouthwash with alcohol in it...because i was thinking about

doing

> so.

>

> Anyways, i dont think that ih ave any other questions...except

about

> the Thrush thing that i saw in somebody elses entry. Is that

> common? And ist there a specific antibiotic that causes it..or is

it

> all kinds? Woo...i cant wait until the 2 week mark

[Guest guest]

You're gonna be fine, although it may not seem so just now. And baby,

none of us is professional. The guys (and gals) who cash those big

checks are the pros. We've just been there in assorted ways, and try

to help each other along.

Sounds like you had work on both upper and lower jaws; is that the

case?

For the dirty mouth thing, can you swish a bit with some warm salt

water, in your mouth. Or some mouthwash that has no alcohol in it?

Biotene is one that is frequently recommended. I'm figuring you

probably have a " wafer " or splint wired in up top. Are you wired,

banded, or neither?

For the lips, you can wash off the Vaseline, gently. Aquaphor is a

product like Vaseline, but it seems to work better. Others have tried

different things. My favorite was Vitamin E oil (you can get the

capsules and puncture them and squeeze 'em to release the oil, or you

can buy a little bottle for more bucks than it oughta cost). It's

oily, but lighter than the Vaseline. Others have liked glycerine and

lemon oil swabs. And honest to pete, I can't remember all the other

things.

How long, O Lord, how long?? -- For the swelling, that's the big

thing, always. And that's what makes me think you had upper, too.

Some things that may help: steamy baths, a vaporizer, warm compresses

(you're four days post op, right? For the first 48, the standard

recommendation is ice; then heat.) Some folks find a health food

store remedy called Arnica helpful, either as a pill or as a rub on

topical. I didn't use that one. Others find something called Bromelain

(derived from pineapples) to help. Can't testify personally for

either. If you use either one, be sure any doc prescribing any other

meds for you knows about it; my guy didn't want me to use 'em because

he admitted he didn't know about them. And I wasn't badly swollen.

How long is as long as it takes. The answer sucks, I know. Most folks

are over the worst of it in a week or two, but some swelling can

persist for a year or more -- not the big blossoming you get post op,

though.

I didn't have diarrhea. Usually folks have the other problem because

of the pain pills. But antibiotics can upset things in the other

direction. Try yogurt, buttermilk -- and Immodium usually gives me a

quick result. I'd go with the easier solutions first, though.

We'll be thinking of you, and sending good wishes your way.

Cammie

> Hi, i just had a reconstructive jaw surgery 4 days ago

(Monday)...and

> i just got back home Wednesday. I am not sure of all of the

correct

> terms but basically what they did was reposition my jaws so that

they

> are correctly aligned. I had a 5 mm (i think) underbite..and they

> fixed that. The only thing that is different about MY surgery

> compaired with most other people's is that i ALSO have Cleft Lip

and

> Palate. So the doctor had to be extra careful not to move my jaws

> too much and rip my palate back open. Anyways, let me get to my

> point.

>

> When will the swelling go down?!?! I really really cannot stand

it.

> I feel so ugly right now...sorta like a dog because i have jowls.

My

> upper lip is about normal size, but my bottom lip is huge! It

makes

> everything so hard to do.

>

> What can i do to make my mouth feel cleaner? I have horrible

breath

> and my lips are all caked up with vasciline. I dont know if i can

> rinse with stuff or if i even should.

>

> Did (or do) any of you have diarhea? Is this normal? Should i be

> concerned?

>

> Thank you.

>

> Sorry if this wasnt as professional as most people would like it,

but

> give me a break, i'm only 17

[Guest guest]

You're gonna be fine, although it may not seem so just now. And baby,

none of us is professional. The guys (and gals) who cash those big

checks are the pros. We've just been there in assorted ways, and try

to help each other along.

Sounds like you had work on both upper and lower jaws; is that the

case?

For the dirty mouth thing, can you swish a bit with some warm salt

water, in your mouth. Or some mouthwash that has no alcohol in it?

Biotene is one that is frequently recommended. I'm figuring you

probably have a " wafer " or splint wired in up top. Are you wired,

banded, or neither?

For the lips, you can wash off the Vaseline, gently. Aquaphor is a

product like Vaseline, but it seems to work better. Others have tried

different things. My favorite was Vitamin E oil (you can get the

capsules and puncture them and squeeze 'em to release the oil, or you

can buy a little bottle for more bucks than it oughta cost). It's

oily, but lighter than the Vaseline. Others have liked glycerine and

lemon oil swabs. And honest to pete, I can't remember all the other

things.

How long, O Lord, how long?? -- For the swelling, that's the big

thing, always. And that's what makes me think you had upper, too.

Some things that may help: steamy baths, a vaporizer, warm compresses

(you're four days post op, right? For the first 48, the standard

recommendation is ice; then heat.) Some folks find a health food

store remedy called Arnica helpful, either as a pill or as a rub on

topical. I didn't use that one. Others find something called Bromelain

(derived from pineapples) to help. Can't testify personally for

either. If you use either one, be sure any doc prescribing any other

meds for you knows about it; my guy didn't want me to use 'em because

he admitted he didn't know about them. And I wasn't badly swollen.

How long is as long as it takes. The answer sucks, I know. Most folks

are over the worst of it in a week or two, but some swelling can

persist for a year or more -- not the big blossoming you get post op,

though.

I didn't have diarrhea. Usually folks have the other problem because

of the pain pills. But antibiotics can upset things in the other

direction. Try yogurt, buttermilk -- and Immodium usually gives me a

quick result. I'd go with the easier solutions first, though.

We'll be thinking of you, and sending good wishes your way.

Cammie

> Hi, i just had a reconstructive jaw surgery 4 days ago

(Monday)...and

> i just got back home Wednesday. I am not sure of all of the

correct

> terms but basically what they did was reposition my jaws so that

they

> are correctly aligned. I had a 5 mm (i think) underbite..and they

> fixed that. The only thing that is different about MY surgery

> compaired with most other people's is that i ALSO have Cleft Lip

and

> Palate. So the doctor had to be extra careful not to move my jaws

> too much and rip my palate back open. Anyways, let me get to my

> point.

>

> When will the swelling go down?!?! I really really cannot stand

it.

> I feel so ugly right now...sorta like a dog because i have jowls.

My

> upper lip is about normal size, but my bottom lip is huge! It

makes

> everything so hard to do.

>

> What can i do to make my mouth feel cleaner? I have horrible

breath

> and my lips are all caked up with vasciline. I dont know if i can

> rinse with stuff or if i even should.

>

> Did (or do) any of you have diarhea? Is this normal? Should i be

> concerned?

>

> Thank you.

>

> Sorry if this wasnt as professional as most people would like it,

but

> give me a break, i'm only 17

[Guest guest]

You're gonna be fine, although it may not seem so just now. And baby,

none of us is professional. The guys (and gals) who cash those big

checks are the pros. We've just been there in assorted ways, and try

to help each other along.

Sounds like you had work on both upper and lower jaws; is that the

case?

For the dirty mouth thing, can you swish a bit with some warm salt

water, in your mouth. Or some mouthwash that has no alcohol in it?

Biotene is one that is frequently recommended. I'm figuring you

probably have a " wafer " or splint wired in up top. Are you wired,

banded, or neither?

For the lips, you can wash off the Vaseline, gently. Aquaphor is a

product like Vaseline, but it seems to work better. Others have tried

different things. My favorite was Vitamin E oil (you can get the

capsules and puncture them and squeeze 'em to release the oil, or you

can buy a little bottle for more bucks than it oughta cost). It's

oily, but lighter than the Vaseline. Others have liked glycerine and

lemon oil swabs. And honest to pete, I can't remember all the other

things.

How long, O Lord, how long?? -- For the swelling, that's the big

thing, always. And that's what makes me think you had upper, too.

Some things that may help: steamy baths, a vaporizer, warm compresses

(you're four days post op, right? For the first 48, the standard

recommendation is ice; then heat.) Some folks find a health food

store remedy called Arnica helpful, either as a pill or as a rub on

topical. I didn't use that one. Others find something called Bromelain

(derived from pineapples) to help. Can't testify personally for

either. If you use either one, be sure any doc prescribing any other

meds for you knows about it; my guy didn't want me to use 'em because

he admitted he didn't know about them. And I wasn't badly swollen.

How long is as long as it takes. The answer sucks, I know. Most folks

are over the worst of it in a week or two, but some swelling can

persist for a year or more -- not the big blossoming you get post op,

though.

I didn't have diarrhea. Usually folks have the other problem because

of the pain pills. But antibiotics can upset things in the other

direction. Try yogurt, buttermilk -- and Immodium usually gives me a

quick result. I'd go with the easier solutions first, though.

We'll be thinking of you, and sending good wishes your way.

Cammie

> Hi, i just had a reconstructive jaw surgery 4 days ago

(Monday)...and

> i just got back home Wednesday. I am not sure of all of the

correct

> terms but basically what they did was reposition my jaws so that

they

> are correctly aligned. I had a 5 mm (i think) underbite..and they

> fixed that. The only thing that is different about MY surgery

> compaired with most other people's is that i ALSO have Cleft Lip

and

> Palate. So the doctor had to be extra careful not to move my jaws

> too much and rip my palate back open. Anyways, let me get to my

> point.

>

> When will the swelling go down?!?! I really really cannot stand

it.

> I feel so ugly right now...sorta like a dog because i have jowls.

My

> upper lip is about normal size, but my bottom lip is huge! It

makes

> everything so hard to do.

>

> What can i do to make my mouth feel cleaner? I have horrible

breath

> and my lips are all caked up with vasciline. I dont know if i can

> rinse with stuff or if i even should.

>

> Did (or do) any of you have diarhea? Is this normal? Should i be

> concerned?

>

> Thank you.

>

> Sorry if this wasnt as professional as most people would like it,

but

> give me a break, i'm only 17

[Guest guest]

Go easy with this suggestion, and Cheryl knows a lot more than do i,

so believe what she tells you.

But, I'm thinking that I grew really weary of sweet things. I'm

wondering how tomato juice, or tomato aspic might work. I didn't

think to try it. I did do a lot of broths -- chicken and beef, and

even French Onion soup. That might be helpful in satisfying a hunger

and thirst that you're feeling.

Cammie

> > Hi,

> >

> > You've been through a lot for a young person. I hope you feel

> better

> > quickly.

> >

> > At Day 4 your swelling is peaking. It should slowly start to

> recede

> > and by day 7-8 will be noticeably better. The two week mark is

> when

> > you feel almost human again.

> >

> > Are you wired? banded? Do you have a splint? I was banded but

> could

> > get a baby toothbrush in a few days after surgery. You can swish

> > with some salty water if you'd like. Don't use any mouthwash

with

> > alcohol in it.

> >

> > Are you getting enough to eat and drink? Be sure to stay

> hydrated.

> > Lots of water helps with the swelling, too.

> >

> > Hope this helps. Let me know what other questions you have.

> >

> > Take care,

> >

> > Cheryl

[Guest guest]

Go easy with this suggestion, and Cheryl knows a lot more than do i,

so believe what she tells you.

But, I'm thinking that I grew really weary of sweet things. I'm

wondering how tomato juice, or tomato aspic might work. I didn't

think to try it. I did do a lot of broths -- chicken and beef, and

even French Onion soup. That might be helpful in satisfying a hunger

and thirst that you're feeling.

Cammie

> > Hi,

> >

> > You've been through a lot for a young person. I hope you feel

> better

> > quickly.

> >

> > At Day 4 your swelling is peaking. It should slowly start to

> recede

> > and by day 7-8 will be noticeably better. The two week mark is

> when

> > you feel almost human again.

> >

> > Are you wired? banded? Do you have a splint? I was banded but

> could

> > get a baby toothbrush in a few days after surgery. You can swish

> > with some salty water if you'd like. Don't use any mouthwash

with

> > alcohol in it.

> >

> > Are you getting enough to eat and drink? Be sure to stay

> hydrated.

> > Lots of water helps with the swelling, too.

> >

> > Hope this helps. Let me know what other questions you have.

> >

> > Take care,

> >

> > Cheryl

[Guest guest]

Go easy with this suggestion, and Cheryl knows a lot more than do i,

so believe what she tells you.

But, I'm thinking that I grew really weary of sweet things. I'm

wondering how tomato juice, or tomato aspic might work. I didn't

think to try it. I did do a lot of broths -- chicken and beef, and

even French Onion soup. That might be helpful in satisfying a hunger

and thirst that you're feeling.

Cammie

> > Hi,

> >

> > You've been through a lot for a young person. I hope you feel

> better

> > quickly.

> >

> > At Day 4 your swelling is peaking. It should slowly start to

> recede

> > and by day 7-8 will be noticeably better. The two week mark is

> when

> > you feel almost human again.

> >

> > Are you wired? banded? Do you have a splint? I was banded but

> could

> > get a baby toothbrush in a few days after surgery. You can swish

> > with some salty water if you'd like. Don't use any mouthwash

with

> > alcohol in it.

> >

> > Are you getting enough to eat and drink? Be sure to stay

> hydrated.

> > Lots of water helps with the swelling, too.

> >

> > Hope this helps. Let me know what other questions you have.

> >

> > Take care,

> >

> > Cheryl

[Guest guest]

Hi Kendall,

I had the runs really bad after week 1 post-op thanks to that lovely

liquid diet. It was the worst thing I experienced post-op as I

couldn't go far from the bathroom for a day or so (we have only ONE

bathroom in our house). Cheryl here advised me to stop drinking the

Ensure with Fibre (and prune juice which a friend had recommended in

case I had the opposite problem) and go back to the regular stuff.

Once I was allowed to start doing soft no-chew (think mush) in week

2, things got better, but Kaopectate was my best friend for a day or

so ...

It's not a worry unless you get dehydrated. Only one solution for

that - drink, drink, drink. Whenever you can think of it, sip on

something. I liked the chocolate bar flavoured drinks that I found in

the grocery store dairy section, and drank a lot of Tropicana fresh

orange juice. Drinking and taking in nutrition is key for a good

recovery.

I had the giant lower lip too - it goes down, looks yicky in the

process as it peels, but try the aquaphor if you can find it - my lip

looked as smooth as a baby's bottom after I used it.

[Guest guest]

Hi Kendall,

I had the runs really bad after week 1 post-op thanks to that lovely

liquid diet. It was the worst thing I experienced post-op as I

couldn't go far from the bathroom for a day or so (we have only ONE

bathroom in our house). Cheryl here advised me to stop drinking the

Ensure with Fibre (and prune juice which a friend had recommended in

case I had the opposite problem) and go back to the regular stuff.

Once I was allowed to start doing soft no-chew (think mush) in week

2, things got better, but Kaopectate was my best friend for a day or

so ...

It's not a worry unless you get dehydrated. Only one solution for

that - drink, drink, drink. Whenever you can think of it, sip on

something. I liked the chocolate bar flavoured drinks that I found in

the grocery store dairy section, and drank a lot of Tropicana fresh

orange juice. Drinking and taking in nutrition is key for a good

recovery.

I had the giant lower lip too - it goes down, looks yicky in the

process as it peels, but try the aquaphor if you can find it - my lip

looked as smooth as a baby's bottom after I used it.

[Guest guest]

Hi Kendall,

I had the runs really bad after week 1 post-op thanks to that lovely

liquid diet. It was the worst thing I experienced post-op as I

couldn't go far from the bathroom for a day or so (we have only ONE

bathroom in our house). Cheryl here advised me to stop drinking the

Ensure with Fibre (and prune juice which a friend had recommended in

case I had the opposite problem) and go back to the regular stuff.

Once I was allowed to start doing soft no-chew (think mush) in week

2, things got better, but Kaopectate was my best friend for a day or

so ...

It's not a worry unless you get dehydrated. Only one solution for

that - drink, drink, drink. Whenever you can think of it, sip on

something. I liked the chocolate bar flavoured drinks that I found in

the grocery store dairy section, and drank a lot of Tropicana fresh

orange juice. Drinking and taking in nutrition is key for a good

recovery.

I had the giant lower lip too - it goes down, looks yicky in the

process as it peels, but try the aquaphor if you can find it - my lip

looked as smooth as a baby's bottom after I used it.

[Guest guest]

HI all

A was just wondering if we have posted somewhere what all the

different uterus pictures on the home page are. I can guess on most

of them, but thought it might be nice to know for sure.

[Guest guest]

<<A was just wondering if we have posted somewhere what all the

different uterus pictures on the home page are. I can guess on most

of them, but thought it might be nice to know for sure.>>

Hi ,

Here they are, to the best of my knowledge, although some are one-of-a-kind:

A. Uterus didelphys with vaginal septum (UD)

B. Either Uterus Bicornis Bicollis or UD without vaginal septum

C. Partial Uterus Bicornis (BU)

D. Complete Uterus Septus (SU)

E. Partial Uterus Septus

F. Uterus Arcuatus--a variation of normal (AU)

G. A left-sided Uterus Unicornis (UU)

H. A textbook normal uterus

I. Looks like a large uterus with one cavity but either a septum or a true

double cervix

J. Not sure. Looks like a giant complete SU bicollis

K. Complete BU

L. BU with a rudimentary, noncommunicating left horn.

M. Hypoplastic uterus, the size of a thumbnail, with streak ovaries

N. Complete BU with an odd vaginal septum that terminates in a blind pouch

on the right side.

O. Normal uterus and adnexa

Beth

SU, resected x 2

[Guest guest]

Hey, don't forget us t-shapes! ;-)

Proud to have a weird uterus,

Mikell, 32

[Guest guest]

Hey, don't forget us t-shapes! ;-)

Proud to have a weird uterus,

Mikell, 32

[Guest guest]

Hey, don't forget us t-shapes! ;-)

Proud to have a weird uterus,

Mikell, 32

[Guest guest]

<<Hey, don't forget us t-shapes! ;-)

Proud to have a weird uterus,

Mikell, 32>>

Hey Mikell,

Don't feel bad. My post-surgical H-shape isn't represented there, either.

;-)

T-shapes, H-shapes, Y-shapes, V-shapes. Anybody have an E-shaped uterus?

We'd like to buy a vowel.

Beth

SU, resected x 2

[Guest guest]

<<Hey, don't forget us t-shapes! ;-)

Proud to have a weird uterus,

Mikell, 32>>

Hey Mikell,

Don't feel bad. My post-surgical H-shape isn't represented there, either.

;-)

T-shapes, H-shapes, Y-shapes, V-shapes. Anybody have an E-shaped uterus?

We'd like to buy a vowel.

Beth

SU, resected x 2

[Guest guest]

<<Hey, don't forget us t-shapes! ;-)

Proud to have a weird uterus,

Mikell, 32>>

Hey Mikell,

Don't feel bad. My post-surgical H-shape isn't represented there, either.

;-)

T-shapes, H-shapes, Y-shapes, V-shapes. Anybody have an E-shaped uterus?

We'd like to buy a vowel.

Beth

SU, resected x 2