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In a message dated 3/5/04 10:28:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, esmock@...

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a - Must confess I've not heard of a problem like your's. But I

just yesterday learned that my oldest daughter (adult) had been

diagnosed with a scab on the back of her retina. Never heard of that

either. If I hear anything from her that sounds like it might relate

to your problem I'll post it here. Best of luck.

Ed in VA

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Thanks Ed.....I have a feeling there is more than meets the eye

here....Trying to be funnny..lol

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In a message dated 3/5/04 10:28:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, esmock@...

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a - Must confess I've not heard of a problem like your's. But I

just yesterday learned that my oldest daughter (adult) had been

diagnosed with a scab on the back of her retina. Never heard of that

either. If I hear anything from her that sounds like it might relate

to your problem I'll post it here. Best of luck.

Ed in VA

*****

Thanks Ed.....I have a feeling there is more than meets the eye

here....Trying to be funnny..lol

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In a message dated 3/5/04 10:28:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, esmock@...

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a - Must confess I've not heard of a problem like your's. But I

just yesterday learned that my oldest daughter (adult) had been

diagnosed with a scab on the back of her retina. Never heard of that

either. If I hear anything from her that sounds like it might relate

to your problem I'll post it here. Best of luck.

Ed in VA

*****

Thanks Ed.....I have a feeling there is more than meets the eye

here....Trying to be funnny..lol

a in Massachusetts NSR Toprol XL 100 x 2 Adult Aspirin

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In a message dated 3/5/2004 7:44:34 PM Pacific Standard Time,

pal22222@... writes:

<< Ok....if anyone has any thoughts to my

delima....I welcome them all...(I did not go into afib even after all

the torure from the two hospitals...lol)oh they said maybe it's time

for coumadin >>

a,

I can't offer any information that would be helpful, but I am very sorry for

you. It seems strange that you would have a clot form after 45 minutes of

afib six weeks ago. My cardiologist did tell me that it would be possible for a

clot to form up to six weeks after an afib episode, but I have had hundreds of

afib episodes of longer than 45 minutes before I started Coumadin. I've

never had a blood clot. However, I would think that even if this turns out to

be

another problem, Coumadin might be a good idea if your doctor prescribes it.

I am very happy with the peace of mind that Coumadin gives me, even though I

rarely have afib now. I have had no problems with Coumadin but many benefits,

mostly mental.

Have you seen a specialist in diseases of the retina? I would pursue

different opinions, if possible, until you get to the crux of this problem.

About

twenty years ago I was told that I would have to stop wearing contact lenses,

but I refused to accept that first doctor's opinion. Six doctors later, I was

told that the problem was that the contacts didn't fit! I went to five doctors

before one finally discovered that the problem was a simple one of improper

fit, if you can believe that! With the correct fit my severe eye problems

disappeared, and I have been wearing contacts ever since. I am a great

believer

in getting more than one medical opinion because this practice has been my

salvation more than once.

Best wishes,

in sinus in Seattle

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In a message dated 3/5/2004 7:44:34 PM Pacific Standard Time,

pal22222@... writes:

<< Ok....if anyone has any thoughts to my

delima....I welcome them all...(I did not go into afib even after all

the torure from the two hospitals...lol)oh they said maybe it's time

for coumadin >>

a,

I can't offer any information that would be helpful, but I am very sorry for

you. It seems strange that you would have a clot form after 45 minutes of

afib six weeks ago. My cardiologist did tell me that it would be possible for a

clot to form up to six weeks after an afib episode, but I have had hundreds of

afib episodes of longer than 45 minutes before I started Coumadin. I've

never had a blood clot. However, I would think that even if this turns out to

be

another problem, Coumadin might be a good idea if your doctor prescribes it.

I am very happy with the peace of mind that Coumadin gives me, even though I

rarely have afib now. I have had no problems with Coumadin but many benefits,

mostly mental.

Have you seen a specialist in diseases of the retina? I would pursue

different opinions, if possible, until you get to the crux of this problem.

About

twenty years ago I was told that I would have to stop wearing contact lenses,

but I refused to accept that first doctor's opinion. Six doctors later, I was

told that the problem was that the contacts didn't fit! I went to five doctors

before one finally discovered that the problem was a simple one of improper

fit, if you can believe that! With the correct fit my severe eye problems

disappeared, and I have been wearing contacts ever since. I am a great

believer

in getting more than one medical opinion because this practice has been my

salvation more than once.

Best wishes,

in sinus in Seattle

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In a message dated 3/5/2004 7:44:34 PM Pacific Standard Time,

pal22222@... writes:

<< Ok....if anyone has any thoughts to my

delima....I welcome them all...(I did not go into afib even after all

the torure from the two hospitals...lol)oh they said maybe it's time

for coumadin >>

a,

I can't offer any information that would be helpful, but I am very sorry for

you. It seems strange that you would have a clot form after 45 minutes of

afib six weeks ago. My cardiologist did tell me that it would be possible for a

clot to form up to six weeks after an afib episode, but I have had hundreds of

afib episodes of longer than 45 minutes before I started Coumadin. I've

never had a blood clot. However, I would think that even if this turns out to

be

another problem, Coumadin might be a good idea if your doctor prescribes it.

I am very happy with the peace of mind that Coumadin gives me, even though I

rarely have afib now. I have had no problems with Coumadin but many benefits,

mostly mental.

Have you seen a specialist in diseases of the retina? I would pursue

different opinions, if possible, until you get to the crux of this problem.

About

twenty years ago I was told that I would have to stop wearing contact lenses,

but I refused to accept that first doctor's opinion. Six doctors later, I was

told that the problem was that the contacts didn't fit! I went to five doctors

before one finally discovered that the problem was a simple one of improper

fit, if you can believe that! With the correct fit my severe eye problems

disappeared, and I have been wearing contacts ever since. I am a great

believer

in getting more than one medical opinion because this practice has been my

salvation more than once.

Best wishes,

in sinus in Seattle

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a - Must confess I've not heard of a problem like your's. But I

just yesterday learned that my oldest daughter (adult) had been

diagnosed with a scab on the back of her retina. Never heard of that

either. If I hear anything from her that sounds like it might relate

to your problem I'll post it here. Best of luck.

Ed in VA

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a - Must confess I've not heard of a problem like your's. But I

just yesterday learned that my oldest daughter (adult) had been

diagnosed with a scab on the back of her retina. Never heard of that

either. If I hear anything from her that sounds like it might relate

to your problem I'll post it here. Best of luck.

Ed in VA

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Good luck a with your eye problem. Perhaps it is not related to the afib

at all. Keep us posted.

Loretta

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Thanks Loretta. I don't think it was related. The finial doctor i saw said

they should not have said it was a blood clot to the eye because technically

its an emboli to the right eye. She said she did not see a clot so that means

its a spec of plaque or calcium...etc.... I did the i thought you needed to

be in afib 48 hours before a clot could form. Like i said my last afib was over

a month and a half ago and it was 45 minutes. I think now they have to

figure out what happened and why because I don't want it to happen again and my

right eye is going to be hazy and blurred on the upper half. There may also be a

debate after they do an emboli work up (no idea what this is) if they will put

me on coumadin now. I said if it was not a blood clot how would coumiden

help an emboli? I have no idea and I think they don't either at this point till

more tests are done and as the process goes the next two weeks I will be

tortured.

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In a message dated 3/6/04 9:47:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,

cleaner@... writes:

Good luck a with your eye problem. Perhaps it is not related to the afib

at all. Keep us posted.

Loretta

***************

Thanks Loretta. I don't think it was related. The finial doctor i saw said

they should not have said it was a blood clot to the eye because technically

its an emboli to the right eye. She said she did not see a clot so that means

its a spec of plaque or calcium...etc.... I did the i thought you needed to

be in afib 48 hours before a clot could form. Like i said my last afib was over

a month and a half ago and it was 45 minutes. I think now they have to

figure out what happened and why because I don't want it to happen again and my

right eye is going to be hazy and blurred on the upper half. There may also be a

debate after they do an emboli work up (no idea what this is) if they will put

me on coumadin now. I said if it was not a blood clot how would coumiden

help an emboli? I have no idea and I think they don't either at this point till

more tests are done and as the process goes the next two weeks I will be

tortured.

a in Massachusetts NSR Toprol XL 100x 2 Adult Aspirin

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Hi a, That's interesting! I have had some problems with my eyes

too. I had hundreds of sudden floaters. I went ER Cleveland Clinic and

also later saw an eye doctor at Cole eye center. They said I had a

vitrus detachment. That is the gel substance behind the eye. As we get

older, they said, the gel dries out and this pulls on the eye causing

some bleeding behind the eye. It can also cause a retinal detachment.

I had a retinal exam and they said it was not detached. They saw some

bleeding but no detachment. I still have a fairly large green floater.

If you are skeptical of what their diagnosis is have a second opinion.

I know this is hard to do you have to trust your doctor, but it's your

eye and your health. I had no visual problems with this only saw

hundreds of spots. Th

Good luck with this problem.

Peggy

embolism

Anyone ever have a problem with their eyes? I had sinus infection

and my eyes were hurting. I thought it was the infection but I took

myself to the hospital because i felt somthing was wrong. First

hospital said blood clot in right eye even though they could not see

one (as soon as they heard I was an afib patient)they sent me off to

Boston's Mass eye and Ear who agrees with the first hospital even

though they don't see one. So next step is a Fluoresceine Angio gram

(a shot and die goes to the eye and they can see the path it takes

and if any leaking or obstruction), they want me to have an

embolisiam work up, new echo cardiogram, and Corotid artery study.

The Doctor I went to for the Fluoresceine angio gram said there is a

possible retinal emboli in the Macula artery. I think what this

means she thinks she sees somthing but not sure what. Just wondering

if anyone had any similar situation. My last afib was 1 1/2 months

ago and it was 45 minutes and I self converted. Im on an adult

aspirin, I don't have heart desease, normal chlesterol, very minor

Mitral valve prolapse but a little chunk of somthing came from

somwhere. My vision on my right eye is like looking outside on a

foggy day but only on the top part of the eye. I did not realize if

you have an eye problem to go immediately to the hospital because you

could actually lose the site. Ok....if anyone has any thoughts to my

delima....I welcome them all...(I did not go into afib even after all

the torure from the two hospitals...lol)oh they said maybe it's time

for coumadin

a in Massachusetts NSR Toprol XL 100 x 2 Adult Aspirin

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Hi a, That's interesting! I have had some problems with my eyes

too. I had hundreds of sudden floaters. I went ER Cleveland Clinic and

also later saw an eye doctor at Cole eye center. They said I had a

vitrus detachment. That is the gel substance behind the eye. As we get

older, they said, the gel dries out and this pulls on the eye causing

some bleeding behind the eye. It can also cause a retinal detachment.

I had a retinal exam and they said it was not detached. They saw some

bleeding but no detachment. I still have a fairly large green floater.

If you are skeptical of what their diagnosis is have a second opinion.

I know this is hard to do you have to trust your doctor, but it's your

eye and your health. I had no visual problems with this only saw

hundreds of spots. Th

Good luck with this problem.

Peggy

embolism

Anyone ever have a problem with their eyes? I had sinus infection

and my eyes were hurting. I thought it was the infection but I took

myself to the hospital because i felt somthing was wrong. First

hospital said blood clot in right eye even though they could not see

one (as soon as they heard I was an afib patient)they sent me off to

Boston's Mass eye and Ear who agrees with the first hospital even

though they don't see one. So next step is a Fluoresceine Angio gram

(a shot and die goes to the eye and they can see the path it takes

and if any leaking or obstruction), they want me to have an

embolisiam work up, new echo cardiogram, and Corotid artery study.

The Doctor I went to for the Fluoresceine angio gram said there is a

possible retinal emboli in the Macula artery. I think what this

means she thinks she sees somthing but not sure what. Just wondering

if anyone had any similar situation. My last afib was 1 1/2 months

ago and it was 45 minutes and I self converted. Im on an adult

aspirin, I don't have heart desease, normal chlesterol, very minor

Mitral valve prolapse but a little chunk of somthing came from

somwhere. My vision on my right eye is like looking outside on a

foggy day but only on the top part of the eye. I did not realize if

you have an eye problem to go immediately to the hospital because you

could actually lose the site. Ok....if anyone has any thoughts to my

delima....I welcome them all...(I did not go into afib even after all

the torure from the two hospitals...lol)oh they said maybe it's time

for coumadin

a in Massachusetts NSR Toprol XL 100 x 2 Adult Aspirin

Backup web page - http://afibsupport.proboards23.com

List owner: AFIBsupport-owner

For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via email,

send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help

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should be acted upon without consultation with one's physician.

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In a message dated 3/6/2004 10:58:49 AM Pacific Standard Time,

pal22222@... writes:

<< I did not know a blood clot could form up to

six weeks after an afib attack. Thanks for the information. >>

a,

As my cardiologist explained it, when you're in afib the blood pools in the

atrial chamber because the heart is pumping at 33 percent less efficiciency. A

clot can form in that pooling while you're in afib, but he said that the clot

might not be " kicked out " for up to six weeks after one has converted back to

sinus. He told me that after an afib episode for about six weeks I have a

much higher chance of having a clot and stroke than the average person without

afib. That's why he wants me on Coumadin even though I almost never have afib

now. Even if I only have an average of three afib episodes per year, which

has been the case for the past two years since I gave up dairy, I still have a

chance of a stroke for about eighteen weeks out of the year: six weeks after

each unpredictable afib episode. I have never had any doctor tell me that you

have to be in afib for 48 hours to have a stroke from a clot. My past six

episodes have lasted for 15 minutes, 20 minutes, two hours, and one for 24

hours, but my doctors still want me on Coumadin. Also, several doctors have

told

me that when one is going in and out of afib there is a much higher risk of

clotting than when one is in permanent afib. My older brother who has been in

permanent afib for at least twenty to thirty years or more, only started

Coumadin last year because his doctor felt he didn't need it prior to that since

he

was stable in afib and had never had a stroke during his long history of afib.

I guess the primary reason my brother's doctor prescribed Coumadin at this

late date is simply because my brother is getting older.

Another bit of information that I received from my ophthalmologist is that

some doctors do eye surgery without taking the patient off of Coumadin because

the size and type of blood vessels in the eye do not present a major bleeding

problem. Of course, it' s certainly possible that enough bleeding could occur

to mess up one's vision, so this information may not be applicable to your

situation. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, and what I have is a little

knowledge. :-) I just thought I would throw that out for whatever it's worth,

but as usual, you should use care in evaluating anything you learn on the

Internet, I think.

I hope you can get through the next two weeks with minimum misery and that

you will keep us posted on how it goes.

in sinus in Seattle

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As my cardiologist explained it, when you're in afib the blood pools in the

atrial chamber because the heart is pumping at 33 percent less efficiciency.

A

clot can form in that pooling while you're in afib, but he said that the clot

might not be " kicked out " for up to six weeks after one has converted back to

sinus. He told me that after an afib episode for about six weeks I have a

much higher chance of having a clot and stroke than the average person

without

afib. That's why he wants me on Coumadin even though I almost never have

afib

now. Even if I only have an average of three afib episodes per year, which

has been the case for the past two years since I gave up dairy, I still have

a

chance of a stroke for about eighteen weeks out of the year: six weeks after

each unpredictable afib episode. I have never had any doctor tell me that

you

have to be in afib for 48 hours to have a stroke from a clot. My past six

episodes have lasted for 15 minutes, 20 minutes, two hours, and one for 24

hours, but my doctors still want me on Coumadin. Also, several doctors have

told

me that when one is going in and out of afib there is a much higher risk of

clotting than when one is in permanent afib.

************************'

Thank you . I don't know why I thought the risk for clotting was 48

hours? Maybe IM thinking about the time you have before you can be cardioverted

before a clot can form? My mistake.

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>In a message dated 3/6/2004 10:58:49 AM Pacific Standard Time,

>pal22222@... writes:

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><

>Another bit of information that I received from my ophthalmologist is that

>some doctors do eye surgery without taking the patient off of Coumadin

>because

>the size and type of blood vessels in the eye do not present a major bleeding

>problem. Of course, it' s certainly possible that enough bleeding could

>occur

>to mess up one's vision, so this information may not be applicable to your

>situation. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, and what I have is a

>little

>knowledge. :-) I just thought I would throw that out for whatever it's

>worth,

>but as usual, you should use care in evaluating anything you learn on the

>Internet, I think.

In the last three months, I had cataract surgery on both eyes. The

Ophthalmologist said he was comfortable with me being on Coumadin. No

problems at all.

in Portland OR

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In a message dated 3/6/2004 5:36:48 PM Pacific Standard Time,

pal22222@... writes:

<< Thank you . I don't know why I thought the risk for clotting was 48

hours? Maybe IM thinking about the time you have before you can be

cardioverted

before a clot can form? My mistake. >>

a,

I'm not sure you are mistaken, a. I have read posts from others here in

which they have stated that their doctors have told them they have to be in

afib for about 48 hours before a clot will form. I don't know if that's true or

not, but it's just that my doctors have not told me that I have to be in afib

for 48 hours before clotting occurs. There may be a difference of opinion on

this issue. My cardiologists have been more concerned about my very frequent

slipping in and out of afib when that was occurring than about the length of

time I am in afib. Coumadin wasn't prescribed for me until I started having

longer, more frequent episodes with very disturbing symptoms such as dizziness

and feelings of imminent fainting. It may also be that individual underlying

differences may lead a doctor to prescribe Coumadin for one patient but not

for another. In any case, because I have found taking Coumadin to be no problem

at all, as has my older brother in permanent afib, I would rather err on the

side of overprotection and safety than to have a stroke. I love that Coumadin

for the peace of mind it gives me and hate having to stop Coumadin for

surgery or dental work.

I hope you are feeling better and that your sight will improve.

in sinus in Seattle

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In a message dated 3/7/04 5:45:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Starfi6314@... writes:

I'm not sure you are mistaken, a. I have read posts from others here in

which they have stated that their doctors have told them they have to be in

afib for about 48 hours before a clot will form. I don't know if that's true

or

not, but it's just that my doctors have not told me that I have to be in afib

for 48 hours before clotting occurs. There may be a difference of opinion on

this issue. My cardiologists have been more concerned about my very frequent

slipping in and out of afib when that was occurring than about the length of

time I am in afib. Coumadin wasn't prescribed for me until I started having

longer, more frequent episodes with very disturbing symptoms such as

dizziness

and feelings of imminent fainting. It may also be that individual underlying

differences may lead a doctor to prescribe Coumadin for one patient but not

for another. In any case, because I have found taking Coumadin to be no

problem

at all, as has my older brother in permanent afib, I would rather err on the

side of overprotection and safety than to have a stroke. I love that

Coumadin

for the peace of mind it gives me and hate having to stop Coumadin for

surgery or dental work.

I hope you are feeling better and that your sight will improve.

in sinus in Seattle

********************

If its true and we can form a clot before 48 hours then we all should be put

on coumadin as soon as we have an afib attack. I think about the 24 years I

was going in and out of afib and think wow IM lucky to be alive. I had far

and few but it was always there. Seems like when I say to myself OK its been 3

years since that weird thing happened ...bam I would get another attack. I

remember the day they finally diagnosed it for me I was 47 years old and thought

finally after all theses years they are saying you do have something wrong.

I guess when you move on to the next step of Afib having more there are more

problems. I just know we all should be on Coumadin if there really is not a 48

hours safety zone.

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pal22222@... writes:

<< I just know we all should be on Coumadin if there really is not a 48

hours safety zone. >>

a,

I think that more doctors are tending to prescribe Coumadin sooner, but I

think the risk of not being on Coumadin may be influenced by other factors such

as age, sex, and other medications currently taken. For example, I think that

older people are more susceptible to stroke because of artery conditions.

Women may be more susceptible because of hormones. Certain medications may

promote clotting, also.

Like you, I had afib for a long time before it was diagnosed and even longer

before Coumadin was prescribed. My primary care doctor did not want to

prescribe Coumadin for me until two of her other younger patients had strokes.

She

said that they were not serious strokes, but she suddenly changed her mind

about Coumadin for me after that. I think the general trend among doctors now

is

to think that it's better to be safe than sorry, and I support that since

taking Coumadin has not been a problem for me. I think the main problem is that

no one seems to be able to accurately predict when someone will have a stroke.

That's why it's better to be overprotected by Coumadin, in my opinion.

in sinus in Seattle

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Starfi6314@... writes:

I think that more doctors are tending to prescribe Coumadin sooner, but I

think the risk of not being on Coumadin may be influenced by other factors

such

as age, sex, and other medications currently taken. For example, I think

that

older people are more susceptible to stroke because of artery conditions.

Women may be more susceptible because of hormones. Certain medications may

promote clotting, also.

Like you, I had afib for a long time before it was diagnosed and even longer

before Coumadin was prescribed. My primary care doctor did not want to

prescribe Coumadin for me until two of her other younger patients had

strokes. She

said that they were not serious strokes, but she suddenly changed her mind

about Coumadin for me after that. I think the general trend among doctors

now is

to think that it's better to be safe than sorry, and I support that since

taking Coumadin has not been a problem for me. I think the main problem is

that

no one seems to be able to accurately predict when someone will have a

stroke.

That's why it's better to be overprotected by Coumadin, in my opinion.

in sinus in Seattle

****************************

I see your point here and I have a feeling my next two weeks with tests

and once this fever goes and I can get back to some kind of normal life IM

going to ask if I have not already been told to take coumadin.

a in Massachusetts 49 NSR Toprol XL 100 x 2 Adult Aspirin

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For whatever its worth, when 1st diagnosed w/AF & admitted to the hospital, I

distinctly recall my Card. asking how long I had noticed my irregular rhythm.

When I told her 3 or 4 days, she explained the protocol of being therapeutic on

coumadin for 3 weeks & then we would try an EC. If it would have been less than

48 hours, she would have tried an EC immediately. So, 48 hours was the key,

according to my Card., before a clot would form.

Thor

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Starfi6314@... writes:

I'm not sure you are mistaken, a. I have read posts from others here in

which they have stated that their doctors have told them they have to be in

afib for about 48 hours before a clot will form. I don't know if that's true

or

not, but it's just that my doctors have not told me that I have to be in afib

for 48 hours before clotting occurs. - SNIP

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For whatever its worth, when 1st diagnosed w/AF & admitted to the hospital, I

distinctly recall my Card. asking how long I had noticed my irregular rhythm.

When I told her 3 or 4 days, she explained the protocol of being therapeutic on

coumadin for 3 weeks & then we would try an EC. If it would have been less than

48 hours, she would have tried an EC immediately. So, 48 hours was the key,

according to my Card., before a clot would form.

Thor

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In a message dated 3/7/04 5:45:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Starfi6314@... writes:

I'm not sure you are mistaken, a. I have read posts from others here in

which they have stated that their doctors have told them they have to be in

afib for about 48 hours before a clot will form. I don't know if that's true

or

not, but it's just that my doctors have not told me that I have to be in afib

for 48 hours before clotting occurs. - SNIP

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In a message dated 3/8/04 3:18:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tk_wascow@... writes:

For whatever its worth, when 1st diagnosed w/AF & admitted to the hospital, I

distinctly recall my Card. asking how long I had noticed my irregular rhythm.

When I told her 3 or 4 days, she explained the protocol of being therapeutic

on coumadin for 3 weeks & then we would try an EC. If it would have been less

than 48 hours, she would have tried an EC immediately. So, 48 hours was the

key, according to my Card., before a clot would form.

Thor

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Your right Thor but I guess there is always rules to the exception. I asked

the ER doctor if its true and he said yes if, you under 65, no heart disease,

no other problems then yes they will tell you no clot till 48 hour because your

not at risk and he said Aspirin is also what they would prescribe if you fall

into that category. Funny story to tell but not so funny I guess. I had an

appointment for 10 PM for an MRI for my head and my neck to try to figure out

why I had an embolism to my eye. They said not sure it was a clot because they

can't identify it yet. So they call me and say can you be here at 7 PM its a

better time and I say OK. So now I rush out the door, had to drop off

someone, went up 2 flights of stairs (I have a problem with aerobic, I went down

2

flights of stairs forgot something, back up 2 flights of stairs.....OH

OH.....AFIB...lol I was so mad at myself for doing that because I know when I

get to

a certain rate I kick in. Anyway I go for the MRI and they say oh we don't

want to do it if your in afib and I say the reason your doing it is because of

afib. So they hem and haw till I said you know IM not going home after what I

went through to get here so do it. MRI done OMG anyone ever have one of

those suckers done? Anyway MRI is negative for whatever they are looking for so

the next step is the eye and some kind of special die and special doctor.

Well, I figured since I was at the hospital why not ...they converted me in 2

hours. Now IM home Sore, converted but happy...lol

a in Massachusetts NSR 1 Hour Toprol XL 100 X 2 Adult aspirin

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