Re: corporate partner thing

[Guest guest]

And adding to what sarah has just said and being new to the group I am

resending a letter that I sent the group with research I had done on this a

few months ago

I felt it was really high and that concerned me.

I would also like to say that i do not use this product and have done very

well on minocin. It has taken awhile and I have been in pain and still am now

and then but it is MINOCIN that has helped me

I have used alternatives my whole life

June

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" " Im forwarding this to the group from chinese herbalist

healer(paul

Iannone)  Just more info  on Ra spes and Im forwarding

another about

another herbal alternatine called Thunder God Vine

June

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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:56:27 -0700

From: Iannone <piannone@...>

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June wrote:

>I was wondering if you had information on Ra Spes

Now I do.

>RA SPES*

A trademarked formula. RA of course is for rheumatoid

arthritis.

'Spes' means 'hope' in Latin.

>This unique herbal extract formula is specifically

formulated to

>promote joint flexibility and extension and to

nutritionally support

>joints and connective tissue. Only herbs that

individually meet our

>rigid scientific tests

A clever way of saying they rely on the individual herb

safety tests

done by others.

>are blended to make this highly active, synergistic

formula.

>

>Each bottle of RA Spes contains 30 capsules.

30 CAPSULES! That's $43 (plus shipping) for 30 capsules

of a common

Chinese combination. One wonders what dosage they use.

On their site,

they detail a clinical trial on ten people. But they

don't bother to

mention the dosage. At 30 capsule bottles, the daily

dose during the

trial probably being 9-10 capsules a day, that's a

three day supply, or

$90 a week.

[by comparison, I sell similar formulations to my

clients for $20 for

100 capsules, and that is a 4x concentrate. Plus,

Eleuthero ginseng

is FAR cheaper than Panax ginseng, and corydalis,

though expensive,

is fifth on the list, presuming they even label

correctly (by

content).]

>Herbal Ingredients: Siberian Ginseng, Alisma,

Artemsia, Chinese

>Thoroughwax [bupleurum], Corydalis, Chinese Yam,

Licorice,

>Schisandra, Baikal Skullcap.

A shotgun approach, of course (no holistic analysis),

but nothing

harmful or dangerous.

[i do pity people who are stuck relying on such 'get

rich' companies

to get well. My consultations are CHEAP! My formulas

are (relatively)

inexpensive! I don't trademark my formulas!]

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