Re: dealing with bleeding on anti coagulants?

[Guest guest]

Im interested in how you cope with bleeding such as nose bleeds or

accidental cuts while on anti coagulants?

I get nosebleeds with steroid nasal sprays after using them daily for a while

and despite trying the different hands spraying technique and cutting right

down to a single spray a day, I still get the occasional nose bleed.

Im due to go on a prescribed anticoagulant and am apprehensive about using

the steroid sprays at all because of the nose bleeds. Im very ignorant about

blood thinners, I have to admit!

Does blood not clot at all when you are on them or just more slowly?

I realise this may sound elementary lol, but I am wondering whether to come

off the steroid nasal sprays incase I get the occasional nose bleeds

I have to stop my allergic coughing and sneezing I get as on the

echocardiogram and the TOE (TEE) it caused the leaking valve to pump blood out

in

spurts and I also get a sharp pain in my heart when I sneeze, which isn't

pleasant!

Im still trying out various antihistamines to find one that will work for me

while not triggering the Afib, but they dont really stop the sneezing too

effectively anyway.

Haze (47yrs, mitral valve regurgitaion, paroxysmal Afib /taking Cardicor)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/27/2004 2:59:25 PM Central Standard Time,

whisper2Uxxxx@... writes:

Does blood not clot at all when you are on them or just more slowly?

I realise this may sound elementary lol, but I am wondering whether to come

off the steroid nasal sprays incase I get the occasional nose bleeds

Blood just clots more slowly but it does clot if you are in your therapeutic

range. I too use steroid nasal sprays and just last night had a nosebleed. I

pressed against the nostril for about 5 minutes and it stopped. Same thing

with cuts--I also sometimes use a cold pack which cuts down on the lengh of time

I bleed. These things are a little bit of a hassle to be sure but pale in

the light of a stroke!

Brenta

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/27/2004 2:59:25 PM Central Standard Time,

whisper2Uxxxx@... writes:

Does blood not clot at all when you are on them or just more slowly?

I realise this may sound elementary lol, but I am wondering whether to come

off the steroid nasal sprays incase I get the occasional nose bleeds

Blood just clots more slowly but it does clot if you are in your therapeutic

range. I too use steroid nasal sprays and just last night had a nosebleed. I

pressed against the nostril for about 5 minutes and it stopped. Same thing

with cuts--I also sometimes use a cold pack which cuts down on the lengh of time

I bleed. These things are a little bit of a hassle to be sure but pale in

the light of a stroke!

Brenta

[Guest guest]

I have been taking an anti-coagulant (keeping my INR between 2.0 to 3.0)for

the past six years. I have never had any problems with increased bleeding due

to cuts, etc. and the bruising I experienced is in line with the bruising

anyone would have following an accidental bump. Hope this will be your

experience

also.

BTW, I eat anything I want to eat and I get my INR done every month.

(I'm on my way to the lab right now for my monthly test.)

Sharon in El Paso

[Guest guest]

Thanks Brenta,

It is reassuring to know a nosebleed (and other bleeding) is controllable

(stoppable even) while on anti coagulants. This is all new to me still and the

reassurance of your experience helps me consider continuing with the steroid

sprays a lot and continue using them when I am on the anticoagulants,

particularly as I tried my third antihistamine today to control the allergy and

it has

put me in Afib again this evening. I dont seem to be having much luck with

antihistamines and Afib and am wondering now if it was all along a major

contributor.. since being off any , I had no Afib at all.

My cardiologist was thinking my main Afib trigger was excercise after the

stress tests , and it did seem to prove to be the case, but I can deal with

excercise okay it seems, when not on an antihistamine.

Thank you for your reassuring information

Haze in UK 47yrs

In a message dated 28/02/2004 14:40:52 GMT Standard Time, B6426@...

writes:

> Blood just clots more slowly but it does clot if you are in your

> therapeutic

> range. I too use steroid nasal sprays and just last night had a nosebleed.

> I

> pressed against the nostril for about 5 minutes and it stopped. Same thing

> with cuts--I also sometimes use a cold pack which cuts down on the lengh of

> time

> I bleed. These things are a little bit of a hassle to be sure but pale in

> the light of a stroke!

>

[Guest guest]

This is very reassuring to hear, thanks for sharing the information, it is

helping me decide how to manage my problems most effectively since my Doctor

seems to go with what I'm happy with (providing he agrees Im not at risk) but

some questions he obviously cannot answer, except theoretically, so it is great

to hear first hand experinence:)

Thank you

Haze in UK, 47yrs

In a message dated 28/02/2004 13:20:27 GMT Standard Time, dher10@...

writes:

> I am on 5 mg Coumadin 1x day which keeps me around INR

> of 2.4 to 2.6, within the desired therapeutic range of

> 2 to 3 to prevent clots/strokes. At first I expected

> blood to be leaking from every pore but, in fact, I

> experience only slight bruising and minor increased

> bleeding from cuts, etc.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the response Ed, more encouragement to put my mind at rest when

I'm shaving hehe, only kidding , though we women do shave too ^

Nosebleeds always seem to take forever to stop though and I dont want to

keep using a steroid spray that provokes them if they would take literally take

forever to cease, but it is looking like antihistamines are an Afib trigger for

me, so I'll be relying more heavily on the nasal spray by the look of things.

I know there are no guarantees on nosebleeds at the best of times, but it

helps to know your experiences on Warfarin.

Haze in UK (who uses a rechargeable battery shaver for the shaved bits lol)

In a message dated 01/03/2004 00:58:23 GMT Standard Time, esmock@...

writes:

> While on coumadin, I was advised to use an electric razor. I didn't and

> very occasionally would nick myself shaving. I did notice that it sometimes

> took what seemed forever to quit bleeding. But it always did. As long as

> you're in the 2-3 range you should be okay.

> Ed in VA

[Guest guest]

While on coumadin, I was advised to use an electric razor. I didn't and very

occasionally would nick myself shaving. I did notice that it sometimes took

what seemed forever to quit bleeding. But it always did. As long as you're in

the 2-3 range you should be okay.

Ed in VA