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Hello and group:

I have been following Dr. ' research for some time and have

communicated with him several times by email. He answers promptly and is

very gracious. He is on the lecture circuit now, it appears, but I'm sure if

anyone emailed him with questions about his theory he would respond.

Rhonda

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> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:13:34 +0100

> From: " D. Shaw " <.Shaw@...>

> Subject: Re: Professor Jo ' web site

>

> Thanks for this. I note:

> <quote>

> Our conclusion is that autoantbodies are first made by chance but can set up a

> vicious cycle so that they go on being produced in large amounts, causing

> damage to body tissues. Removing the cells that make antibodies should break

> this cycle. It is now possible to remove most of these cells safely and

> effectively. Preliminary results are encouraging.

> </quote>

>

> This is the bit I find worrying - the belief that the antibodies are made by

> chance, and not because of infection by a bacteria or mycoplasma. This not

> only flies in the face of other researchers (most noteably Dr. Ebringer, also

> in London! - and has apparently identified the molecuar sequence on HLA-B27

> that is confused with that on K. pneumoniae for AS patients - pretty

> conclusive that!) but suggests that antibiotic therapy is pointless, which

> there are plenty here who will testify it is not.

>

> I am very concerned that this research is going to lead a lot of researchers

> down the wrong track, especially now that it has received such wide publicity.

>

> Jo - I hope you're reading this!

>

>

>

>> Professor Jo ' web site, which discusses the RA treatment discussed

>> in my previous posting, is at: http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~regfjxe/

>>

>> -Dr. Todd-

>

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> Message: 2

> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:44:21 +0100 (CET)

> From: and Chas Adlard <cadlard@...>

> Subject: Re: IV Protocol

>

>

> Hi Jeffery,

>

> Welcome to the group :)

>

> The IV protocol is based on the clinical experience of Dr.

> McPherson Brown, a US rheumatologist who used this protocol for fifty

> years. The basic protocol is described in question 2 of our FAQ at

> rheumatic.org/faq.htm. Variations are made in each individual case

> according to disease severity, whether other problems are also present

> etc.

>

> Scleroderma patients usually need both antibiotics. A good pattern is to

> start with a week of IVs, 300mg clindamycin or lincocin the first two

> days, 600mg the second two days, 900mg the rest of the week. Then oral

> minocycline is continued and a 900mg clindamycin IV is given once every

> week, once every two weeks or once a month.

>

> Please let me know if you need more information and I'll try to help you,

> Chris.

>

>

> On Sat, 4 Nov 2000, Jeffery Abplanalp wrote:

>

>> I was diagnosed w/ scleroderma w/in the past year and began AP this past

>> May.

>> F., about a week ago you commented about Clindamycin IVs and

>> mentioned the specific protocol that you are currently following. I'm

>> interested in knowing how you arrived at that specific protocol. I'm

>> struggling just a bit with frequency and dosage - what is generally accepted

>> to be effective and what is not. Like with any med, I know there must be

>> some variability from person to person. But surely there must be some

>> insight amongst those who administer IVs as to what appears to be reasonably

>> effective, or is it mostly trial and error?

>> Thanks,

>> Jeff

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> Message: 3

> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:23:52 +0100

> From: " D. Shaw " <.Shaw@...>

> Subject: Re: Colitis connected w/arthritis?

>

> Hi

>

>> I've always felt this was probably an area in which the docs just don't know

>> as much as they would like to let on, and am always interested in learning

>> more. Do you have more references on Dr. Ebringer's work?

>

> http://www.kickas.org/mollecular_mimicry.shtml

>

> http://www.kickas.org/asdiet.shtml

>

> There is some stuff on ReA in these articles.

>

> Regards,

>

>

>

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>

> Message: 4

> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 15:10:40 -0000

> From: john.downing@...

> Subject: Anyone been to Dr. Anne Bacon?

>

> I am looking for an AP doctor in the Northern Virginia area

> and have heard this name mentioned. Her office is in Winchester,

> VA. Has anyone ever been to her.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

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> Message: 5

> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:28:55 -0000

> From: " Mark Holmes " <mholmes@...>

> Subject: PPA Warning-Women under 50 warning

>

> http://www.cnn.com/2000/HEALTH/11/06/ppa.warning.ap/

>

>

>

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> Message: 6

> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:45:50 EST

> From: STKWINGUY@...

> Subject: St. 's Wort Interaction with Drugs

>

>>>I wish I had a reference for this but I don't. There was some

> discussion a while back about this and it could be that St. 's Wort

> interacts with antibiotics in such a way as to reduce their effectiveness. I

> immediately stopped taking it, because I don't want anything to interfere

> with the AP. But I don't know if there is any proof for this... <<

>

> Quoted from Consumer Reports On Health, June 2000 issue:

> ..*. St 's wort can cause blood levels of a wide variety of prescription

> drugs to plummet, with potentially dangerous results.

> Researchers believe St 's wort affects drug metabolism by boosting

> production of a key enzyme in the liver, speeding elimination of many common

> drugs. Among the drugs probably affected:

> Oral contraceptives; Statins; Beta-blockers; Calcium-channel blockers;

> Digitalis; Theophylline; Warfarin (Coumadin); Certain antibiotics, notably

> clarithromycin (Biaxin) and erythromycin (E-Mycin).

> Moreover, St 's wort may interact in a different way with other

> antidepressant medications, magnifying their intended effects as well as

> their side effects, such as agitation and confusion as well as increased

> blood pressure and heart rate.

> And the herbal may increase sensitivity to light, a side effect that may be

> compounded when it's taken with with drugs that cause the same problem, such

> as tretinoin (Renova, Retin-A) and the antibiotics doxycycline (Vibramycin)

> and tetracycline (Achromycin).

> If your taking a prescription drug and want to try St 's wort, ask your

> doctor whether the herbal is likely to interact with the drug.

> And if you're already taking St 's wort plus a prescription drug, don't

> STOP the herbal until you talk with your doctor, who can check to make sure

> the blood level of the drug does not RISE precipitiously when the herbal is

> discontinued.

> <End of quote>

>

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> Message: 7

> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 10:07:20 -0700

> From: Gwen Armstrong <armstrog@...>

> Subject: more letters like this might get action

>

>

http://www.medscape.com/Medscape/GeneralMedicine/journal/2000/v02.n06/mgm110

3.gibs/mg

> m1103.gibs.html

>

>

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> Message: 8

> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:07:52 -0800

> From: " Liz G. " <pioneer@...>

> Subject: Pamidronate and pred-induced osteoporosis--article

>

> http://www.docguide.com/news/content.nsf/news/75B09BCB4BFAC9758525698B007029

> F3?OpenDocument & id=4818A9BB262494A6852568C500627E56 & c=Arthritis%20Other & coun

> t=10

>

> Guess you'll have to copy and paste this back together....

> Article:

> ACR: Pamidronate Prevents Glucocorticod-Induced Osteoporosis

>

>

>

>

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> Message: 9

> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 15:17:21 -0600

> From: Probert <elbows@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: Colitis connected w/arthritis?

>

> on 11/6/00 4:23 AM, D. Shaw at .Shaw@... wrote:

>

>> Hi

>>

>>> I've always felt this was probably an area in which the docs just don't know

>>> as much as they would like to let on, and am always interested in learning

>>> more. Do you have more references on Dr. Ebringer's work?

>>

>> http://www.kickas.org/mollecular_mimicry.shtml

>>

>> http://www.kickas.org/asdiet.shtml

>>

>> There is some stuff on ReA in these articles.

>>

>> Regards,

>>

>

> Hi , as you probably know, I have read that material. I would like to

> encourage anyone who disputes that or I could have reactive arthritis

> to re-read it, as Dr Ebringer definitely does not state that HLA-B27

> positive status is necessary for a diagnosis of ReA.

>

> It seems most of my posts anymore are to remind folks who have

> over-simplified the work of Ebringer and others that they are indeed

> over-simplifying.

>

> What is stated in the above references is that approximately 70% of people

> with the ReA diagnosis are HLA-B27 positive. This leaves a full 30% who are

> not, including me. I have had rheumatologist state that in women with

> post-dysenteric ReA, there is NO correlation with HLA-B27 status. Dr

> Ebringer states that we probably have closely related tissue types. I

> believe this is the area in which there is still more to be discovered.

>

> I have had uveitis, which is considered as important a factor in the

> diagnosis as HLA-B27 status, and another indicator for more severe or

> prolonged disease activity.

>

> Both and I have been on the list a while now, and have been through

> this several times. I feel Dr. Franco is more qualified to make 's

> diagnosis than list members. Just want to remind folks that we are mostly

> amateurs here, and need to be careful about over-simplifying what we do

> know, or generalizing one's experience to others inappropriately.

>

> Jean

>

>

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>

> Message: 10

> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 18:16:30 EST

> From: Tomlinkara@...

> Subject: Latest Venture

>

> Hi everyone,

> Thought you may be interested in following my story.Have RA and been on AP

> since Apr 97.Made an amazing recovery for 1 and 1/2 years then got stuck.Have

> been in a plateau since Aug 98.Sed rate hovers around 40 (+ or- 5) and have

> persistent pain in my hands and wrists.(The last symptom to go away).So am

> seeing Dr .On Fri I had an injection of Vit and min.Today I had an IV

> treatment of hydrogen peroxide.Tomorrow I have chelation therapy with DMPS.I

> also go and have a sauna following treatments ( to get rid of toxins) then

> come home and drink tons of water.IV Clindamycin is also a

> possibility.Anyway-so far no change .I can't tell you how much of a relief it

> would be to be able to use my hands without pain.

> Hugs,

> Lin

> PS I also have a positive ASO titre that won't respond to treatment.Maybe

> this will help

>

>

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>

> Message: 11

> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 17:42:36 -0600

> From: Snooks <emsnooks@...>

> Subject: Re: Anyone been to Dr. Anne Bacon?

>

> Our list shows the following address for Dr. Bacon:

>

> Anne Bacon, M.D. - Rheumatologist

> Arthritis Specialists of Winchester

> 1730 Amherst St.

> Winchester, VA 22601

>

> It's my understanding she does both oral and IV therapy.

> 540-667-6232

>

> Ethel

> john.downing@... wrote:

>>

>> I am looking for an AP doctor in the Northern Virginia area

>> and have heard this name mentioned. Her office is in Winchester,

>> VA. Has anyone ever been to her.

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>>

>> To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups

>

>

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>

> Message: 12

> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 00:17:15 -0000

> From: marisa@...

> Subject: PA Webcast Transcript is Available!

>

> Hello!

>

> I just wanted to let you all know that the transcript for the

> HealthTalk Interactive psoriatic arthritis webcast,

> entitled " Understanding Psoriatic Arthritis: Hope Through Knowledge

> and New Treatments, " is up on our site at

> http://www.healthtalk.com/rain/101700/replay.html. Please take a

> moment to check it out and let me know if you have any questions or

> comments!

>

> We also have other content on rheumatoid arthritis. Visit our

> Rheumatoid Arthritis Information Network (RAIN) at

> http://www.healthtalk.com/rain/rainindex.html.

>

> Warmest Regards,

>

> Marisa

>

>

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> Message: 13

> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 01:04:41 GMT

> From: " Adlard " <cadlard@...>

> Subject: Re: Latest Venture

>

> Hi Lin,

>

> I'd be interested to know if chelation helps you - Janene is also considering

> this option to ease stiffness. I had an email from a Dr. Mezo saying that the

> stiffness which remains is caused by calcium deposits in the joints and that

> chelation eliminates these deposits.

>

> Looking forward to hearing from you,

> Chris.

>

>>Hi everyone,

>>Thought you may be interested in following my story.Have RA and been on AP

>

>>since Apr 97.Made an amazing recovery for 1 and 1/2 years then got stuck.Have

>

>>been in a plateau since Aug 98.Sed rate hovers around 40 (+ or- 5) and have

>

>>persistent pain in my hands and wrists.(The last symptom to go away).So am

>

>>seeing Dr .On Fri I had an injection of Vit and min.Today I had an IV

>

>>treatment of hydrogen peroxide.Tomorrow I have chelation therapy with DMPS.I

>

>>also go and have a sauna following treatments ( to get rid of toxins) then

>

>>come home and drink tons of water.IV Clindamycin is also a

>>possibility.Anyway-so far no change .I can't tell you how much of a relief

> it

>>would be to be able to use my hands without pain.

>>Hugs,

>>Lin

>>PS I also have a positive ASO titre that won't respond to treatment.Maybe

>

>>this will help

>>

>>

>>To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

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>

> Message: 14

> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 04:24:57 -0000

> From: " Mark Holmes " <mholmes@...>

> Subject: Allergy sufferers take heed

>

> Be careful when taking herbs if you have allergies. Some info here

> you might not have known. I realize that this group is a hotbed for

> alternative medicine, but like regular drugs, herbal meds are not

> always a safe alternative.

>

> http://www.msnbc.com/news/485764.asp?0nm=-19L

>

> Mark

> SW VA

> http://mark_holmes.tripod.com

>

>

>

>

>

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> Message: 15

> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 00:27:03 EST

> From: Careabxs@...

> Subject: Re: St. 's Wort Interaction with Drugs

>

> Thank you so much for the info from Consumer's Reports on SJW :) Your

> response plus those of many other people have me taking a second look at

> using this. I am on 12 different prescription medicines, including a calcium

> channel blocker so I don't want to make things worse for myself! I just wish

> that the two rheumy's I saw would have cautioned me about this!

> Thanks again :)

> Carol E from NY

>

>

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> Message: 16

> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 06:03:59 -0000

> From: " Borland " <lborland@...>

> Subject: Re: Colitis

>

> Hi ,

> It's great to hear you're getting good results from HBOT. 20 years

> is a long time to put up with anything. I think the colitis is

> related to the arthritis. From everything I've heard about leaky gut

> syndrom it sounds like that's the mechanism for infection entering

> the bloodstream where it causes systemic problems. Anything that

> causes inflammation of the intestinal walls also causes increased

> permeabilty. The walls of the intestines, though they appear solid,

> are actually like a very fine sive that allows only the tiniest

> molecules to get through. Anything larger will cause an immediate

> attack by the immune system. With LGS, plenty of the large stuff

> gets through. The " molecular mimicry " causes antibodies fighting

> these large molecules (including parts or organisms that are

> molecular in size) to then attack healthy tissue. I just learned

> recently that certain immunizations worked on that principle. For

> example, with a gammaglobulin shot they inject you with something

> harmless that is so similar to the hepatitus virus that you form

> antibodies that will attack the hepatitus too. That's a type of

> molecular mimicry that works to our benefit.

>

>

>

>

>> > > According to Dr. Alan Ebringer ReA and AS are associated with

>> HLA-B27 and RA

>> > > is associated with HLA-DR4/DR1. I didn't want you to think I

> was

>> referring to

>> > > reactive arthritis when I used RA. Reactive Arthritis is a

>> classification

>> > > that includes Reiter's Syndrom and a host of other infections

> that

>> cause joint

>> > > inflammation. It's much easier to get your rheumatologist to

>> treat with

>> > > antibiotics when you have ReA because they recognize that there

> is

>> an

>> > > infection causing the symptoms. The trouble is that most of

> them

>> don't look

>> > > for ReA unless you show other symptoms of infection besides just

>> joint

>> > > inflammation. However, sometimes that's the only symptom that

>> shows.

>> >

>> > Hi

>> >

>> > I find your comments on HLA-B27 interesting. My diagnosis is

>> reactive

>> > arthritis, but I am HLA-B27 negative. My rheumatologist made the

>> diagnosis

>> > based upon characteristic enthesopathy of heels, hips, etc, and

>> uveitis. Two

>> > other rheumatologists have confirmed this diagnosis. The last one

>> said in

>> > women with post-dysenteric ReA, there is NO correlation between

>> arthritis

>> > and HLA-B27 status. All the rheumatologists I've spoken with felt

>> uveitis

>> > was in my case as important to the diagnosis as HLA-B27 status.

>> >

>> > My first rheumatologist said he suspected I would be positive for

>> > HLA-DR4/DR1, but felt the expense of the tests was not justified

> in

>> the

>> > light of other positive indicators.

>> >

>> > I've always felt this was probably an area in which the docs just

>> don't know

>> > as much as they would like to let on, and am always interested in

>> learning

>> > more. Do you have more references on Dr. Ebringer's work?

>> >

>> > For the record, I have had arthritis for 13 years, have had a good

>> response

>> > to 14 months of minocycline, but am still hoping for more

>> improvement.

>> >

>> > TIA

>> >

>> > Jean

>

>

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> Message: 21

> Date: 7 Nov 2000 08:10:06 -0000

> From: rheumaticegroups

> Subject: Poll results for rheumatic

>

>

> The following rheumatic poll is now closed. Here are the

> final results:

>

>

> POLL QUESTION: When new members join and/or old ones

> unsubcribe, it is hard to keep track of

> everyone's illnessess. To get a better

> understanding of the

> diseases of this group, please indicate

> below the condition (s) that you are

> currently afflicted with.

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> CHOICES AND RESULTS

> - Lupus, 0 votes, 0.00%

> - Reactive Arthritis, 0 votes, 0.00%

> - Rheumatoid Arthritis, 1 votes, 20.00%

> - Sjogren's Diesease, 0 votes, 0.00%

> - Scleroderma, 2 votes, 40.00%

> - Polymyositis, 0 votes, 0.00%

> - Dermatomyositis, 0 votes, 0.00%

> - Reiter's Syndrome, 0 votes, 0.00%

> - Ankylosing Spondylitis, 1 votes, 20.00%

> - Psoriatic Arthritis, 1 votes, 20.00%

> - Fibromyalgia, 0 votes, 0.00%

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> - Rheumatoid Arthritis

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> - RTC@...

> - lcmedit@...

> - Polymyositis

> - Dermatomyositis

> - Reiter's Syndrome

> - Ankylosing Spondylitis

> - .Shaw@...

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Copy all, Gretchen! Thank you for the reminder. He has already paid the

ultimate price.

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MODERATOR NOTE:

One error I need to correct is that Steve's parents do speak English,

but it is not their native language. His Mother's english is reported

to be more fluent than his Dad's.

Gretchen

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>>

4) We are having a balloon launch in memory of all those that have

been effected from the vaccine.

>>

When you launch the balloons, be sure to send up some for those

who died. The name of Steve Suk needs to be added. He died at

Walter this summer. In the end, he was bleeding through his

pores, before his skin began falling off. DoD may not be heavily

involved in 'dammage control' in his case, Steve was Korean, and

his parents don't speak English. They aren't likely to connect with

the vaccine activists any time soon. And I'm betting he won't be

found listed in with those who had 'reactions' He and his family

were discouraged from making the connection to the vaccine.

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Hi All,

I am joining the HB Group today! I has said I was joining last week but not

only missed that but failed miserably and ate ice cream and potato chips for

the first time in 3 years! EEEH GAD!!

Also, you sent me a plan to get rid of cellulite a while back and I

have misplaced it - how did it go?

Thanks in advance for any assistance you can give me!

Love and Laughter [and fitness and health] to all!

Cj

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Dear Carol,

I have made the decision to have revision sugery in June. I, like you, hadn't

realized there was such a procedure until recently. I am still in reasonable

shape, but I am getting progressively worse. I saw my original surgeon at

Stanford Hospital and then saw Dr. Serena Hu, at UCSF. The Spine Center at UCSF

is the place to go for this type of condition. There is also another doctor,

Dr. Berven. Both he and Dr. Hu deal with revisions on a regular basis. There

are only a handful of doctors in the country that specialize in revisions, and

these two are in this group. Both doctors I saw said I have flat back syndrome

and will need to have surgery. I can wait five years or so to do it. I decided

to go for it now because I am in the best shape to handle recovery, I have good

health insurance, and why obsess and be in pain for any longer than I have to.

Neither doctor told me I would have to wait until I was in more pain or more

disabled. I think that is counter productive

considering the level of recovery needed to pull through this, both mentally

and physically. Dr. Hu also said that women who have been through menopause

generally tend to have poorer recoveries than premenopausal women. This is also

another factor for me because I am osteopenic (almost osteoporotic) and I want

my bone to fuse. If you decide to get an appointment with Dr. Hu be prepared to

wait a month or two; she gets booked up fast. Good luck with all this. It's

been an eventful few months for me learning about all of this and make such big

decisions.

Jenni Gates

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Thank you for the info.I am printing this out for future reference.

As I said previously, I was not aware of HARMS. And as others have

said, I'm sure very few if any Orthopedic Doctors are either. That's

part of the reason why I've always felt like a freak. Everyone

minimizes my pain and uncomfortableness. I know it's not in my head.

I know it's a waste to go to my GP unless only for pain med's. So, I

guess I'll slowly start my search. I will appreciate a lot of prayer.

All this will have to come about in the right time, and right now it

doesn't seem like the time. I have a daughter graduating from High

School in June, so we'll we busy with that and college starting in

the fall.

Thank you everyone for your thoughts.

Carol V.

>

> Dear Carol,

>

> I have made the decision to have revision sugery in June. I, like

you, hadn't realized there was such a procedure until recently. I am

still in reasonable shape, but I am getting progressively worse. I

saw my original surgeon at Stanford Hospital and then saw Dr. Serena

Hu, at UCSF. The Spine Center at UCSF is the place to go for this

type of condition. There is also another doctor, Dr. Berven. Both

he and Dr. Hu deal with revisions on a regular basis. There are only

a handful of doctors in the country that specialize in revisions, and

these two are in this group. Both doctors I saw said I have flat

back syndrome and will need to have surgery. I can wait five years

or so to do it. I decided to go for it now because I am in the best

shape to handle recovery, I have good health insurance, and why

obsess and be in pain for any longer than I have to. Neither doctor

told me I would have to wait until I was in more pain or more

disabled. I think that is counter productive

> considering the level of recovery needed to pull through this,

both mentally and physically. Dr. Hu also said that women who have

been through menopause generally tend to have poorer recoveries than

premenopausal women. This is also another factor for me because I am

osteopenic (almost osteoporotic) and I want my bone to fuse. If you

decide to get an appointment with Dr. Hu be prepared to wait a month

or two; she gets booked up fast. Good luck with all this. It's been

an eventful few months for me learning about all of this and make

such big decisions.

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> Jenni Gates

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Carol V.

My name is Carole, and I imagine you are about the age of my own daughter.

Please do not think of yourself the way you described. Didn't you produce a

wonderful young woman? Aren't there other places in life that you can be so

proud of? You know, you did not do anything to anyone. You were given a

special place in life, just like I was. There are just so many of us out here!

I am so glad that you found this site and am pretty sure you will be hearing

from the moderator () too! Please hang in there. There are

several online groups that have really kept my head " above water " for some time

now! Welcome!

Carole M. (the elder)

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Hello Amit,

this is praveen, i am a software engineer, was working for a MNC in France, due to a illness, i need to return india in 2003, for almost 2 years i was under treatment in SGPGI lucknow, still i am unable to walk, i move with the help of a walker, but the things are improving, and i am very positive that i will be able to walk soon on my own, kind words at this forum make me happy and encourage me.

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