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Hi, , The Immune Tree Colostrum6 (two of the three women use

this brand ,the third woman switched to another brand when she was

not responding, is supposed to be the best. I am parroting, you

understand. The reason being that the point of harvesting the

colostrom is to get the potency from the mother's milk. The potency

diminishes with every hour. The Colostrum 6 is harvested within the

first six hours following birth while the other brands wait up to as

long as 72 hours. The suggested strength on the bottles are the

maintenance doses to KEEP one well. I was told to take three

capsules, three times a day or better still, with the powder, take

one full teaspoon three times per day. I was gagging mixing the

powder with water and two of the women said to mix it with a little

apple sauce or yogurt. Then I said, " But you and I are not supposed

to have those! " The response was that it takes such a little amount

of mix the one teaspoon and the colostrum is far more important so

do what it takes. I was told not to expect improvement for months;

however, I am already feeling a difference. Traditional Brand

Mullein/Pan Pien Lien is to do two things. It helps with the

lungs/respiratory tract and the Pan Pien Lien part is for the

lungs/respiratory tract and muscle and joint pain. The Lobelia is

from Nature's Sunshine. I was also instructed to only get that brand

so I had to send off for it. I take one capsule daily with a meal.

This was supposed to help the fibromyalgia symptoms, muscles which

feel like bones wanting to break during the night, hands and wrists

aching really badly, and with the settling down of the muscles, I

was told I would sleep better. YeP! I do! I am not sleepy during

the day time but I am certainly sleeping better at night. So

something is working for me somewhere. For yours or anyone's

convenience, I have two sources. One is Carol Dicks (she will be

gone March 8 through 13) and her telephone number is 973-627-5220.

This lady knows her business and was referered to me by Maureen

. Her son was born with some very rare condition whereby the

muscles turn to bone. He was not to live beyond the age of nine

months, according to the doctors. He is grown, alive and running his

own computer business out of the home and mostly wheel chair bound

but happy. She kept him on herbal supplements from the moment he

was born and he still is. Lovely lady. If you call there and she is

unavailable, her husband will also ship. The other supplier I use

is Advanced Alternatives, Steve Pickering, Owner, who suffers

fromChronic Fatigue Syndrome. Extremely nice and helpful man.

Phone is 1-800-945-3161 and fax is 1-517-372-6395. I hope this is

what you need. Love,

Patten wrote:

From: " Patten " <leslie@...>

Thanks for all the support. To all who don't know, kvetching is a

great

Yiddish word for complaining--and you have to imagine the accent

with it!

I failed to mention, I have been on liquid fish oil for about 5

months. I

found the liquid is much more effective than pills--1 t/day. It

does help

ever so slightly with the inflammation. But I think the Vioxx is

the real

winner with the inflammation.

Aloe vera sounds like a good idea. Also wondering about

colustrum. I tried

it for about 8 weeks on 6-8 pills/day with no effects. What dose

and kind

of colustrum (liquid or pills?) was this lady trying that cured

her?

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Subject:

Re: rheumatic Kvetching is Yiddish

Date:

Sun, 09 Jan 2000 10:17:19 -0700

From:

Fain <slfain@...>

To:

Patten <leslie@...>

CC:

Rheumatic <Rheumaticonelist>

References:

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Hi, , The Immune Tree Colostrum 6 (two of the three women use

this brand ,the third woman

switched to another brand when she was not responding, is supposed

to be the best. I am parroting,

you understand. The reason being that the point of harvesting the

colostrom is to get the potency

from the mother's milk. The potency diminishes with every hour. The

Colostrum 6 is harvested

within the first six hours following birth while the other brands

wait up to as long as 72 hours. The

suggested strength on the bottles are the maintenance doses to KEEP

one well. I was told to take

three capsules, three times a day or better still, with the powder,

take one full teaspoon three times

per day. I was gagging mixing the powder with water and two of the

women said to mix it with a

little apple sauce or yogurt. Then I said, " But you and I are not

supposed to have those! " The

response was that it takes such a little amount to mix the one

teaspoon and the colostrum is far more

important so do what it takes. I was told not to expect improvement

for months; however, I am

already feeling a difference. The Lobelia is from Nature's

Sunshine. I was also instructed to only get

that brand so I had to send off for it. I take one capsule daily

with a meal. This was supposed to

help the fibromyalgia symptoms, muscles which feel like bones

wanting to break during the night,

hands and wrists aching really badly, and with the settling down of

the muscles, I was told I would

sleep better. YeP! I do! I am not sleepy during the day time but

I am certainly sleeping better at

night. So something is working for me somewhere. I am also taking

Mullein/Pan PienLien which is for the respiratory system and also

helps joint and muscle pain. Lastly, I take the MSM and I have a

site that talks about that if you want it. I order from two

different places for these. My primary source is from Carol Dicks

(R & C DICKS) 973-627-5220. Carol Dicks was referred to me by

Maureen and Carol is wonderful about sending these overnight

if I am in a hurry. I do know she will be leaving for a trip with

her daughter about March 8 for a week but you could reach her now.

Also, her home phone number is 973-586-2043 and she does not mind

being called at home, like today, then your order could go out

tomorrow before she leaves. Carol knows her products. She has a

son who was born with some REALLY rare disease where the muscles

turn to bone(sounds a lot liike scleraderma, only worse). They told

her he would not live to nine months. He is now grown and owns his

own computer cmpany out of their home. He is in and out of wheel

chair during the day but grown and thriving and pretty self

sufficient. So her heart is definitely in her work. I failed to

mention I also take Vitamin O as I have trouble sleeping, some

depression and trouble thinking clearly (short term memory). This

is ten drops in water twice daily and is not that expensive. All of

these herbs are taken by all three of these women. There is a site

at www.bulkmsm.com which has testimonnials about the MSM, one being

Coburn, the actor. He swears by it for his arthritis pain.

And lastly, I have on order a Chi Machine. That is the most

expensive gift I have given myself. You can order it at an 800

number I have. It is a tiny machine which sits on the floor. Your

body is lying down with your feel cross this machine. The machine

moves your body side to side in the gentle movement of a fish in

water if you get the visual. It is purported the same as an aerobic

workout for the heart and takes the oxygen throughout the body. It

looks like I could sleep while it is doing its job, it looks that

relaxing. Maureen said I HAD to have this. She uses her every

single day. I am leaving on the 8th for Seattle with my daughter so

won't be back for mine until March 14 when I get back. But I am

excited about what all I have heard about it so look forward to

using it. The costs with shipping was $460.00. I figure over a

lifetime, the price I save along in coffee will pay for this. Well,

, I hope I have helped you some.

Patten wrote:

From: " Patten " <leslie@...>

Thanks for all the support. To all who don't know, kvetching is a

great

Yiddish word for complaining--and you have to imagine the accent

with it!

I failed to mention, I have been on liquid fish oil for about 5

months. I

found the liquid is much more effective than pills--1 t/day. It

does help

ever so slightly with the inflammation. But I think the Vioxx is

the real

winner with the inflammation.

Aloe vera sounds like a good idea. Also wondering about

colustrum. I tried

it for about 8 weeks on 6-8 pills/day with no effects. What dose

and kind

of colustrum (liquid or pills?) was this lady trying that cured

her?

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Hi,

This is all but a few lines of a letter I just recieved. I think that this

might be worthy of support. If this legislation could be passed it would

make a lot of things easier and alternatives, as long as they were not

proven harmful, could be covered by medicare.

At present, any alternative I try must be easily affordable. There would

come a point when the only alternative would be just to let go and pass on

and be done with it.

Cliff

Re: Your inquiry

>Cliff,

>

>. At the American Preventive Medical Association, we focus

>specifically on federal legislation and regulations that affect your

ability to

>use complementary and alternative therapies, so we applaud your efforts to

get

>the word out!

>

>Since medical freedoms continue to be threatened by the FDA, the allopathic

>medical community, insurance companies and state medical boards - it was

clear

>that complementary health care practitioners and consumers needed an

advocate...

>on capitol hill, in the state legislatures, in the courts and with the

media.

>

>You mentioned you've contacted thousands of people about your experiences,

as

>well as the success stories of others. If any of those people are

interested in

>getting involved with APMA, we'd welcome them! We are always looking for

>activists to contact their congressman and have a voice in the nation's

capital.

>

>Our main focus this year is the passage of the Access to Medical Treatment

Act

>which states specifically that individuals can be treated by any authorized

>health care practitioner with any method of medical treatment the

individual

>desires, so long as the patient is fully informed and the therapy is not

known

>to be harmful. This seemingly simple bill is vitally important to the

future of

>preventive medicine and patient access. Without it, state by state,

alternative

>medicine will be eliminated.

>

>Please let me know if there's anything that we can do to help one another.

>

>Tricia

>

>--

>Tricia Teti Fischer

>Director of Membership & Development

>American Preventive Medical Association... Making Health Care Freedom A

Reality

>P.O. Box 458

>9912 town Pike

>Suite D-2

>Great Falls, VA 22066

>703-759-0662

>703-759-6711 fax

>tricia@...

>

>

>