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Hi Danny,

Cabernets and Merlots tend to be dry. You

can also ask when you go to the store to buy some and some stores, like Publix

if you have them, list how dry or sweet the wine is. For white wine Pinot

Griggio tends to be relatively dry but I can’t remember if white is

allowed. I think the book said red wine.

There are also sulfite-free wines in case

sulfites are an issue. They are not truly free of sulfites but have a lot less

than regular wine. There’s one called “Our Daily Red” that is

also organic and sulfite “free”. I had a glass of it in November

and found it to be very dry. You can look at it here http://www.ourdailyred.com/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=64:odr-group & catid=34:odr & Itemid=53.

It’s the one with the blue label on the left. I don’t know about

the others they sell.

a

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BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of Danny Kovacs

Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009

1:45 AM

To: BTVC-SCD

Subject: Dry wine?

Can anybody give me any ideas for a dry wine? I

haven't been able to figure out the criteria

for determining if wine is " dry " or not.

Danny

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> Hi Danny,

>

>

>

> Cabernets and Merlots tend to be dry. You can also ask when you go to the

> store to buy some and some stores, like Publix if you have them, list how

> dry or sweet the wine is. For white wine Pinot Griggio tends to be

> relatively dry but I can't remember if white is allowed. I think the book

> said red wine.

French wines are out - they routinely add sugar to the fermentation process.

Only drink wines from Italy, California, Australia and Portugal. These are

wines produced in areas where it is illegal to add sugar to the fermentation

process. So that you can drink dry and less dry wines - because the sugar

is natural in any case.

Guys - read the other messages - not just replies to your own. I just wrote

this yesterday. I don't like to have to do it two days in a row.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BTVC-SCD/message/14453

Also, you'll learn things about what to do in situations which arise later on.

Mara

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> Hey Folks,

>

> Check out this wikipedia article on Chaptalization (the process of

> adding sugar to wine):

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaptalization

>

Good article Geoff. So now we know that South African Austrian, Greek

Cyprian and Spanish wine are also legal and also

*natural* (which specifically means non sugar added) wine in Germany

and (and some regions of southern France - but without knowing those

specific regions, it's probably better to avoid.)

Mara

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Perhaps I read the article wrong, but the sugar is added before fermentation to create more alcohol content from low sugar grapes. If the sugar is used up in the fermentation process, isn't that kind of like sugar in the starter powder which gets used up during the yogurt making process?

"This process is not intended to make the wine sweeter, but rather to provide more sugar for the yeast to ferment into alcohol.["

Re: Dry wine?

>> Hey Folks,> > Check out this wikipedia article on Chaptalization (the process of> adding sugar to wine):> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaptalization> Good article Geoff. So now we know that South African Austrian, GreekCyprian and Spanish wine are also legal and also *natural* (which specifically means non sugar added) wine in Germany and (and some regions of southern France - but without knowing thosespecific regions, it's probably better to avoid.) Mara

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> Perhaps I read the article wrong, but the sugar is added before fermentation

to create

more alcohol content from low sugar grapes. If the sugar is used up in the

fermentation

process, isn't that kind of like sugar in the starter powder which gets used up

during the

yogurt making process?

>

>

> " This process is not intended to make the wine

sweeter<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweetness_of_wine>, but rather to provide

more

sugar for the yeast<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeast> to ferment into

>alcohol.[<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaptalization#cite_note-MacNeil_pg_47-0\

> "

No, you read it correctly.

But that's the standard that's been used on this list since

I was a member. No sugar added, even if the sugar goes

into fermentation. As opposed to say, sucrose in yogurt

starter. That's been the guideline. Some guy who was

a bit of a wine expert (at least in terms of SCD, can't say

beyond that) had a long detailed post about it either on

this list or on the SCD long island list some while ago.

I guess the point being that there is no way for us to know

that the sugar has been all used up - so it would be a bit of

trial and error to find a wine you could be sure you could

drink safely, so without sugar added is the more cautious

approach. Though I imagine this is not an issue in old

fine wine, as also in old Balsamic vinegar, as we previously

discussed.

Mara

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> > Perhaps I read the article wrong, but the sugar is added before fermentation

to create

> more alcohol content from low sugar grapes. If the sugar is used up in the

fermentation

> process, isn't that kind of like sugar in the starter powder which gets used

up during the

> yogurt making process?

>

> I guess the point being that there is no way for us to know

> that the sugar has been all used up - so it would be a bit of

> trial and error to find a wine you could be sure you could

> drink safely, so without sugar added is the more cautious

> approach.

To continue the analogy, it could be like the sucrose

used in the starter, but then the yogurt is only

fermented for 8 hours, so is the sucrose safe for

SCD people or not?

Mara

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Hi,

I just posted a couple days ago about how I thought Merlot sent me

into a flare. But after seeing your post, I'm thinking it might be the

sulfites. I've always been suspect of them. I once had a couple pieces

of dried apricots with sulfites, and ended up in the hospital by the

next day.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> Hi Danny,

>

>

>

> Cabernets and Merlots tend to be dry. You can also ask when you go

to the

> store to buy some and some stores, like Publix if you have them,

list how

> dry or sweet the wine is. For white wine Pinot Griggio tends to be

> relatively dry but I can't remember if white is allowed. I think the

book

> said red wine.

>

>

>

> There are also sulfite-free wines in case sulfites are an issue.

They are

> not truly free of sulfites but have a lot less than regular wine.

There's

> one called " Our Daily Red " that is also organic and sulfite " free " .

I had a

> glass of it in November and found it to be very dry. You can look at

it here

> http://www.ourdailyred.com/index.php?option=com_content

>

<http://www.ourdailyred.com/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=64:

> odr-group & catid=34:odr & Itemid=53>

> & view=article & id=64:odr-group & catid=34:odr & Itemid=53. It's the one

with the

> blue label on the left. I don't know about the others they sell.

>

>

>

> a

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