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Hi Mimi,

I use a basic yellow cake mixture that has mayonnaise in it.... which

I believe is what gives it extra moisture....

(and extra calories and extra cholestrol).

Melonie

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> Is adding pudding to the cake batter the only way to moisten a cake?

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> Thanks for taking the time to reply!

> Mimi

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Our favorite family chocolate cake has

mayonnaise instead of other fats. (I haven’t adapted to gf…) The

recipe I will adapt at some point uses prune puree—in a chocolate or

gingerbread you can’t tell the prune is there, but it adds fiber,

moisture and reduces fat calories. Some people use applesauce, but I haven’t

had good luck there.

Laurie

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moistening cakes

Hi Mimi,

I use a basic yellow cake mixture that has

mayonnaise in it.... which

I believe is what gives it extra moisture....

(and extra calories and extra cholestrol).

Melonie

>

> Is adding pudding to the cake batter the only

way to moisten a cake?

>

> Thanks for taking the time to reply!

> Mimi

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We have multiple containers of prune puree here (how sad of a fact is that?!)

tell me more! Do you decrease the sugar? How much prune puree?

Mimi

Laurie Bilyeu wrote:

Our favorite family

chocolate cake has mayonnaise instead of other fats. (I haven’t adapted to

gf…) The recipe I will adapt at some point uses prune puree—in a chocolate

or gingerbread you can’t tell the prune is there, but it adds fiber, moisture

and reduces fat calories. Some people use applesauce, but I haven’t had good

luck there.

Laurie

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Sent: Tuesday, March 07,

2006 3:19 PM

To: SillyYaks

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cakes

Hi Mimi,

I use a basic yellow cake mixture that has mayonnaise

in it.... which

I believe is what gives it extra moisture....

(and extra calories and extra cholestrol).

Melonie

>

> Is adding pudding to the cake batter the

only way to moisten a cake?

>

> Thanks for taking the time to reply!

> Mimi

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How much mayonaise????

Mimi

onesillyyak wrote:

Hi Mimi,

I use a basic yellow cake mixture that has mayonnaise in it.... which

I believe is what gives it extra moisture....

(and extra calories and extra cholestrol).

Melonie

>

> Is adding pudding to the cake batter the only way to moisten a cake?

>

> Thanks for taking the time to reply!

> Mimi

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I find regular applesauce too watery in baking, but jars of baby food

pears seem to work really well. The Namaste mixes for brownies and

blondies call for a lot of oil, and I use 1/3 pear puree instead -

works quite well to decrease the fat without changing the fat or texture.

Maureen

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> > Thanks for taking the time to reply!

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OK, this one looks easiest to de-gluten

because it has less flour. I haven’t tried it gf—we can have a

contest. By the way, you can make your own prune puree with regular prunes,

soaked in boiling water for 5-10 minutes then pureed in the food processor. I

usually omit the coffee, cinnamon and cloves in this because of family

preferences. The spices make it more Mexican-ish.

Sin-free Brownies (from Raichlen’s

“High-flavor Low-fat Vegetarian cooking”

½ cup golden raisins

4 ounces unsweetened chocolate, coarsely

chopped

½ cup prune puree

3 egg whites

1 cup sugar (plus 2 tbsp for sprinkling)

½ tsp salt

2 tsp vanilla

1 tbsp instant coffee

½ teaspoon cinnamon

¼ tsp cloves

½ cup flour

Plump the raisins in hot water to cover in

a bowl for 15 minutes. Drain well in a colander. Melt the chocolate in a bowl

over a pan of barely simmering water or in the microwave. Do not let even the

smallest droplet of water come in contact with the chocolate, or it will harden

and become difficult to work with.

Combine the prune puree, egg whites, 1 cup

sugar, salt, vanilla, coffee, cinnamon, and cloves in a large mixing bowl and whisk

or beat until smooth. Beat in the melted chocolate. Add the flour and raising

and beat just to mix.

Spoon the batter into an 8-inch baking

pan, oiled with spray oil (or use parchment paper). Sprinkle the top of the

brownies with the remaining sugar. Bake for 25 minutes at 350.

169 calories per brownie (12-14): 3 g.

protein, 5 g fat; 33 g carb; 16 mg sodium; 0mg cholesterol

Laurie

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From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of Ian's Mimi

Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:33

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To: SillyYaks

Subject: Re: Re:

moistening cakes

We have multiple containers of prune puree here (how sad of a fact is

that?!) tell me more! Do you decrease the sugar? How much prune puree?

Mimi

Laurie Bilyeu wrote:

Our

favorite family chocolate cake has mayonnaise instead of other fats. (I

haven’t adapted to gf…) The recipe I will adapt at some point uses

prune puree—in a chocolate or gingerbread you can’t tell the prune

is there, but it adds fiber, moisture and reduces fat calories. Some people use

applesauce, but I haven’t had good luck there.

Laurie

lbilyeu@...

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On Behalf Of onesillyyak

Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:19

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To: SillyYaks

Subject: Re:

moistening cakes

Hi Mimi,

I use a basic yellow cake mixture that has

mayonnaise in it.... which

I believe is what gives it extra moisture....

(and extra calories and extra cholestrol).

Melonie

>

> Is adding pudding to the cake batter the only

way to moisten a cake?

>

> Thanks for taking the time to reply!

> Mimi

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My Granmother taught me to add 1/2 c mayonaise no matter how many

eggs or oil the recipie calls for. Yes it's more calories, but it

really is sooooo worth it. It's moist & rich & I won't make a cake

any other way. :) Enjoy!!

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cake?

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Thank you!!!! My Mom used to make chocolate mayonaise cakes when I was kid

.........yummy!

Mimi

desertjae3 wrote:

My Granmother

taught me to add 1/2 c mayonaise no matter how many

eggs or oil the recipie calls for. Yes it's more calories, but it

really is sooooo worth it. It's moist & rich & I won't make a cake

any other way. :) Enjoy!!

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a

cake?

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Ohhh that sounds yummy too!

Thanks, Mimi

marcianar wrote:

I find

regular applesauce too watery in baking, but jars of baby food

pears seem to work really well. The Namaste mixes for brownies and

blondies call for a lot of oil, and I use 1/3 pear puree instead -

works quite well to decrease the fat without changing the fat or texture.

Maureen

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> > Is adding pudding to the cake batter the only way to moisten a

cake?

> >

> > Thanks for taking the time to reply!

> > Mimi

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We make pureed prunes every week...........I have been doing this for 14

years!

I am going to try this too!

Thanks Mimi

Laurie Bilyeu wrote:

OK, this one looks

easiest to de-gluten because it has less flour. I haven’t tried it gf—we

can have a contest. By the way, you can make your own prune puree with regular

prunes, soaked in boiling water for 5-10 minutes then pureed in the food

processor. I usually omit the coffee, cinnamon and cloves in this because

of family preferences. The spices make it more Mexican-ish.

Sin-free Brownies

(from Raichlen’s “High-flavor Low-fat Vegetarian cooking”

½ cup golden raisins

4 ounces unsweetened

chocolate, coarsely chopped

½ cup prune puree

3 egg whites

1 cup sugar (plus

2 tbsp for sprinkling)

½ tsp salt

2 tsp vanilla

1 tbsp instant

coffee

½ teaspoon cinnamon

¼ tsp cloves

½ cup flour

Plump the raisins

in hot water to cover in a bowl for 15 minutes. Drain well in a colander.

Melt the chocolate in a bowl over a pan of barely simmering water or in the

microwave. Do not let even the smallest droplet of water come in contact

with the chocolate, or it will harden and become difficult to work with.

Combine the prune

puree, egg whites, 1 cup sugar, salt, vanilla, coffee, cinnamon, and cloves

in a large mixing bowl and whisk or beat until smooth. Beat in the melted

chocolate. Add the flour and raising and beat just to mix.

Spoon the batter

into an 8-inch baking pan, oiled with spray oil (or use parchment paper).

Sprinkle the top of the brownies with the remaining sugar. Bake for 25 minutes

at 350.

169 calories per

brownie (12-14): 3 g. protein, 5 g fat; 33 g carb; 16 mg sodium; 0mg cholesterol

Laurie

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From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of Ian's Mimi

Sent: Tuesday, March 07,

2006 3:33 PM

To: SillyYaks

Subject: Re:

Re: moistening cakes

We have multiple containers of prune puree here

(how sad of a fact is that?!) tell me more! Do you decrease the sugar? How

much prune puree?

Mimi

Laurie Bilyeu wrote:

Our favorite family chocolate cake has

mayonnaise instead of other fats. (I haven’t adapted to gf…) The recipe I

will adapt at some point uses prune puree—in a chocolate or gingerbread you

can’t tell the prune is there, but it adds fiber, moisture and reduces fat

calories. Some people use applesauce, but I haven’t had good luck there.

Laurie

lbilyeu@...

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of onesillyyak

Sent: Tuesday, March 07,

2006 3:19 PM

To: SillyYaks

Subject: Re: moistening

cakes

Hi Mimi,

I use a basic yellow cake mixture that has mayonnaise

in it.... which

I believe is what gives it extra moisture....

(and extra calories and extra cholestrol).

Melonie

>

> Is adding pudding to the cake batter the

only way to moisten a cake?

>

> Thanks for taking the time to reply!

> Mimi

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I've had pretty good luck with applesauce, myself. I used it in the

namaste cake to substitute for some of the oil, and it turned out

great!

>

> I find regular applesauce too watery in baking, but jars of baby food

> pears seem to work really well. The Namaste mixes for brownies and

> blondies call for a lot of oil, and I use 1/3 pear puree instead -

> works quite well to decrease the fat without changing the fat or

texture.

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I am glad you asked this question. I

need to make a cake tomorrow and I am trying to decide what flour combo to

use. I usually use a mixture of flours with sorghum in it for cookies and

muffins but for white cakes it isn’t ideal – it seems a bit course

and a weird color. That doesn’t bother me with chocolate, but for a

white cake or lemon cake it is very noticeable.

I learned on several lists that Child

recommended using straight corn starch for cake flour. I tried that and

it was a great taste and texture but was dry as toast the next day. The

recipe I tried is one that usually is even better the next day. I like

that quality in a cake – we really don’t need to devour it all in

one sitting!

So, now I am trying to determine what

option might be better. I am considering Bette Hagman’s featherlite

mixture. Or, maybe I should just try the cornstarch but add pudding, or

sour cream or mayo.

What flour does everyone favor for a white

cake? Thanks for the input!

Becky

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of Ian's Mimi

Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:35

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To: SillyYaks

Subject: moistening

cakes

Is adding pudding to the cake

batter the only way to moisten a cake?

Thanks for taking the time to reply!

Mimi

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I would probably use either Bette Hagman's featherlight mix, her GF

Gourmet blend, or rice flour, depending on how rich the cake was.

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> I am glad you asked this question. I need to make a cake tomorrow

and I am

> trying to decide what flour combo to use. I usually use a mixture

of flours

> with sorghum in it for cookies and muffins but for white cakes it

isn't

> ideal - it seems a bit course and a weird color. That doesn't

bother me

> with chocolate, but for a white cake or lemon cake it is very

noticeable.

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The one starch that adds moistness to a cake, as opposed to dryness, is

potato starch. For cakes, I use a combination of:

1 cup rice flour

1/2 cup potato starch

1 cup sugar

1 tsp baking powder

1/2 tsp baking soda

1-1/2 tsp xanthan gum

These are basic proportions I figured out using the Gluten Free Pantry

yellow cake mix's ingredients. Oil also is an ingredient that adds

moistness.

Good luck,

in VT

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Haven't heard from YOU in awhile !

Glad to hear you're not snowed in!?

kathi

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The one starch that adds moistness to a cake, as opposed to

dryness, is

potato starch. For cakes, I use a combination of:

1 cup rice flour

1/2 cup potato starch

1 cup sugar

1 tsp baking powder

1/2 tsp baking soda

1-1/2 tsp xanthan gum

These are basic proportions I figured out using the Gluten Free

Pantry

yellow cake mix's ingredients. Oil also is an ingredient that

adds

moistness.

Good luck,

in VT

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I guess the bottom line is I just need to

try them all. The trouble is that all of these experiments are really expanding

my waistline! I think I will try the featherlite today. Thanks!

Becky

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of seamaiden399

Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006

11:41 PM

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Subject: Re:

moistening cakes

I would probably use either

Bette Hagman's featherlight mix, her GF

Gourmet blend, or rice flour, depending on how

rich the cake was.

>

> I am glad you asked this question. I

need to make a cake tomorrow

and I am

> trying to decide what flour combo to

use. I usually use a mixture

of flours

> with sorghum in it for cookies and muffins

but for white cakes it

isn't

> ideal - it seems a bit course and a weird

color. That doesn't

bother me

> with chocolate, but for a white cake or lemon

cake it is very

noticeable.

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Someone suggested, a while ago, substituting half of the oil for applesauce and this seems to work nicely. Shirley in San Diegoonesillyyak wrote: Hi Mimi,I use a basic yellow cake mixture that has mayonnaise in it.... which I believe is what gives it extra moisture....(and extra calories and extra cholestrol). Melonie>> Is adding pudding to the cake batter the only way to moisten a cake?> > Thanks for taking the time to reply!> Mimi>

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In the end I used bette hagman’s

basic mix because I had it on hand and got in a hurry.  I also added ¼ cup of

sour cream and some xanthan gum.  I’m keeping my fingers crossed.

Thank you for sharing this combo.  I need

to sit down and study how it compares with some of my old recipes and try to

convert them.

Becky

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of cain_dvre

Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006

7:58 AM

To: SillyYaks

Subject: Re:

moistening cakes

The one starch that adds

moistness to a cake, as opposed to dryness, is

potato starch. For cakes, I use a

combination of:

1 cup rice flour

1/2 cup potato starch

1 cup sugar

1 tsp baking powder

1/2 tsp baking soda

1-1/2 tsp xanthan gum

These are basic proportions I figured out using

the Gluten Free Pantry

yellow cake mix's ingredients. Oil also is

an ingredient that adds

moistness.

Good luck,

in VT

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I do this a lot actually, and have been

very pleased with it. Particularly in the Namaste mixes – they call for

so much oil I can’t bear to use it all. I like the idea of trying prune

or pear puree as well – Somehow I feel I can justify a treat as being

healthy food if it has more fruit and less oil. Reaching, I know!

Becky

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of RICHARD WHITLEY

Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006

10:30 AM

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Subject: Re: Re:

moistening cakes

Someone suggested, a while ago, substituting half of the oil for

applesauce and this seems to work nicely. Shirley in San Diego

onesillyyak

wrote:

Hi Mimi,

I use a basic yellow cake mixture that has mayonnaise in it.... which

I believe is what gives it extra moisture....

(and extra calories and extra cholestrol).

Melonie

>

> Is adding pudding to the cake batter the only way to moisten a cake?

>

> Thanks for taking the time to reply!

> Mimi

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MiMi,

It is 2/3 Cup Mayo.... Here is the recipe below (which is already

in the Files section of our site).

Gluten-Free Yellow Cake (and also makes DoNuts!!)

Basic and easy, and very versatile. Layer with white or chocolate

frosting, strawberries and whipped cream, etc. Make sure your baking

powder is gluten-free. Makes 2 -8 or 9 inch layers (24 servings).

Printed from Allrecipes, Submitted by Amy

1 1/2 cups white rice flour

3/4 cup tapioca flour

1 teaspoon salt

1 teaspoon baking soda

3 teaspoons baking powder

1 teaspoon xanthan gum

4 eggs

1 1/4 cups white sugar

2/3 cup mayonnaise

1 cup milk

2 teaspoons gluten-free vanilla extract

Directions

1 Preheat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C). Grease and rice

flour two 8 or 9 inch round cake pans.

2 Mix the white rice flour, tapioca flour, salt, baking soda, baking

powder and xanthan gum together and set aside.

3 Mix the eggs, sugar, and mayonnaise until fluffy. Add the flour

mixture, milk and vanilla and mix well. Spread batter into the

prepared pans.

4 Bake at 350 degrees F (175 degrees C) for 25 minutes. Cakes are

done when they spring back when lightly touched or when a toothpick

inserted near the center comes out clean. Let cool completely then

frost, if desired

**THIS RECIPE MAKES GREAT DONUTS IF YOU JUSGT POUR THE BATTER INTO

DOUGHNUT PANS THAT ARE BAKED IN THE OVEN. YOU MAY NEED TO SHORTEN

THE BAKING TIME A LITTLE BIT.... AND THESE DONUTS FREEZE VERY WELL.

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cake?

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Taken from http://glutenfreemixes.com.....................

Baking Tips: Ten Secrets to a Great Cake

1. Beat

the eggs and butter (or ingredient of choice) extremely well. Put them in the

mixer and get everything else ready – mix it until it is pale and fluffy.

2.

Line the pan with parchment paper – the bottom won’t scorch as

easily and it always comes out of the pan. With parchment paper in the bottom,

do not grease the sides of the pan. This will allow the cake to cling to the

pan and rise evenly. Use a metal spatula and carefully go between the cake and

pan immediately when it comes out of the oven.

3.

Do not over cook the cake. A little moisture in the middle is ok when removing

it from the oven. It continues to cook a little longer when cooling. The top

should spring back when touched lightly with your finger – it

shouldn’t make a dent in the top of the cake.

4.

Let it cool in the pan for 10 minutes max! After 10 minutes it will start to

sweat on the bottom. Hold a cooling rack over the top of the pan with oven

mitts on and flip everything over. (Make sure the cooling rack is the same size

or bigger then the cake otherwise it will break.)

5.

Let it cool completely before frosting. The frosting will melt if attempted to

soon and slide off the cake.

6.

Make sure the cake gets the middle rack of the oven. Bake a cake with the rack

two levels up from the bottom. This keeps it from getting too hot on the bottom

or the top and cooking evenly.

7.

If your cakes get the mound in the middle (rise faster in the middle), lower

the oven temperature by 25?F and extend the time by 10 or 15 minutes. Cake pan

wraps are available to insulate the edges from over cooking before the middle

is done. A slower cooked cake will rise more even. If you are having trouble

getting things to bake consistently, buy an oven thermometer to check your oven

temperature. Trim the mound off before stacking a layer cake (if there is one).

The cake will stack without looking like a leaning tower.

8.

Place a pan of water in the oven while baking the cake. Gluten-free flour can

use all the moisture it can get. Place an ovenproof pie pan or casserole dish

with several inches of water in the oven on the lower rack. (I’ve done this and it does

help!)

9. Let

the cake mix sit before putting it into the pan. Gluten-free flour will absorb

moisture while waiting to go into the oven. It can sit in the mixing bowl or in

the pan – 15 minutes of letting the flour absorb can make an even moister

cake.

10. Keep track of what works (and what doesn’t)!

Make notes in a book and keep it with your recipes. I have learned from

experience that consistency pays

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