Re: Passover - To eat rice or not

[Guest guest]

Interesting and thank you for the reminder of how G-d would want

us to handle life. I remember now that Daddy could never fast

because it made him have horrible headaches...and he was in turn

a horrible person to live with!! G-d rest his soul. I miss his

horrible headaches!

I think for the sedar I'll have to endure a typical Askenasic

service....maybe I'll slip in a rice dish? It's at my house!

But for the rest of the week.....goodie!! Rice and beans here I

come! : )

You know it's funny, I had a girlfriend who came to our sedars

for a couple of years...she was " in charge " of the chocolate

desert. She brought the most wonderful chocolate cake every

year. It wasn't until several years later that we discovered

that the desert wasn't kosher for passover after all!!! Nothing

bad happened. It was just our pride. I can justify anything

away... : )

Thanks for the sweet reminder again....kathi

--- sbw2270 wrote:

---------------------------------

To all of you who are debating if you can celebrate Passover

with

Sephardic foods -- let me tell you what I learend when my mother

was

diagnosed with diabetes. The Orthodox rabbi said that G-d would

never

ask us to risk our health in his/her name. So, we are not to do

anything that would lead to that. Therefore, my mother the

diabetic

is NOT to fast. This year, my child the Celiac is not to eat

WBRO and

can enjoy a Sephardic Passover. The rabbi reminded us that our

ancestors ate based on what was available - Ashkenazi families

did not

have access to beans and rice but did to potatos and wheat. The

reverse was true for the Spehardim. Neither choice is a sin.

Health

is the first priority.

Since we are a GF household, we will all be enjoying a Sephardic

Passover. There are some GREAT recipes that will be new and

exciting

for all of us.

Sara in CT

[Guest guest]

>

> Since we are a GF household, we will all be enjoying a Sephardic

> Passover. There are some GREAT recipes that will be new and exciting

> for all of us.

=========

we made this decision last year when I was the only celiac in the

household. Now that we know that all four of us have celiac I am

really glad we made this decision.

anyway, I far prefer Sephardic cooking to Ashkenazi cooking. My

family has always made a Sephardic harosset using dates, wine, nuts

and spices. it is so very good.

I made a Sephardic " latke " last Chanukkah. It was so delicious. I

made a spicy ground chicken mix (*recipe calls for lamb but we dont'

eat lamb) and then used that as the flling in mashed potato balls. I

then fried the balls. they were wonderful.

I'm still trying to decide whether to buy the oats matzah for this

year. We are going to very frum friends for the first seder and they

will only have pas yisrael food in their home which means I can't

bring my own homemade potato matzah into their home.

Shez

[Guest guest]

OY VAY!!! Frum huh?? Egads. I wouldn't know how to act!

kathi

--- Sherene Silverberg wrote:

I'm still trying to decide whether to buy the oats matzah for

this

year. We are going to very frum friends for the first seder and

they

will only have pas yisrael food in their home which means I

can't

bring my own homemade potato matzah into their home.

Shez

[Guest guest]

I bought the oat matzah last year. It was terrible! Even tried to make it into matzah brie. It was terrible, too!

Re: Passover - To eat rice or not

>> Since we are a GF household, we will all be enjoying a Sephardic> Passover. There are some GREAT recipes that will be new and exciting> for all of us.=========we made this decision last year when I was the only celiac in the household. Now that we know that all four of us have celiac I am really glad we made this decision.anyway, I far prefer Sephardic cooking to Ashkenazi cooking. My family has always made a Sephardic harosset using dates, wine, nuts and spices. it is so very good.I made a Sephardic "latke" last Chanukkah. It was so delicious. I made a spicy ground chicken mix (*recipe calls for lamb but we dont' eat lamb) and then used that as the flling in mashed potato balls. I then fried the balls. they were wonderful.I'm still trying to decide whether to buy the oats matzah for this year. We are going to very frum friends for the first seder and they will only have pas yisrael food in their home which means I can't bring my own homemade potato matzah into their home.Shez

[Guest guest]

Oh, gosh, I thought that was a typo.

Educate me again…what’s frum?

Laurie

lbilyeu@...

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of Kathi Sandler

Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006

10:00 PM

To: SillyYaks

Subject: Re: Passover

- To eat rice or not

OY VAY!!! Frum

huh?? Egads. I wouldn't know how to act!

kathi

--- Sherene Silverberg

wrote:

I'm still trying to decide whether to buy the oats

matzah for

this

year. We are going to very frum friends for the

first seder and

they

will only have pas yisrael food in their home

which means I

can't

bring my own homemade potato matzah into

their home.

Shez

[Guest guest]

Correct me if I " m wrong. Frum is a word given to someone who

is a very religous orthodox jew.

kathi

--- Laurie Bilyeu wrote:

> Oh, gosh, I thought that was a typo. Educate me again.what's

> frum?

>

>

>

> Laurie

>

> lbilyeu@...

>

> _____

>

> From: SillyYaks

> [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf

> Of Kathi Sandler

> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:00 PM

> To: SillyYaks

> Subject: Re: Passover - To eat rice or not

>

>

>

> OY VAY!!! Frum huh?? Egads. I wouldn't know how to act!

>

> kathi

>

> --- Sherene Silverberg wrote:

>

>

>

>

> I'm still trying to decide whether to buy the oats matzah for

> this

> year. We are going to very frum friends for the first seder

> and

> they

> will only have pas yisrael food in their home which means I

> can't

> bring my own homemade potato matzah into their home.

>

> Shez

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, gosh, I thought that was a typo. Educate me again…what’s frum?===========Frum is the word we use to describe Jews who follow all the mizvot (laws) of the Torah (five books of Moses - first five books that are in the Christian old testament) and the Talmud (the oral law)There are 613 mitzvot that Jews are supposed to live by. These control what goes into our mouths, onto our bodies, how we treat our fellow man, how we treat G-d etc, etc, etc.The Jews who follow these are called frum.  They generally belong to Orthodox or Chassidic communities, however, you do find frum Jews who belong to Conservative communities.Passover has many, many rules and customs.  The differences between frum and non-frum households are really highlighted during this holiday.  Shez

[Guest guest]

>

> If y'all need new recipes, I highly recommend Abadi's

> cookbook, A Fistful of Lentils. It's *not* a gluten-free cookbook,

> but it is a very interesting Syrian-Jewish cookbook. There are

> plenty of naturally GF recipes and hey, you can always replace

> bulghur with quinoa.

============

A friend has this book and she's mentioned it a few times. I think I

will go and have a look at it. thanks for the heads up

shez

[Guest guest]

I bought the oat matzah last year.  It was terrible!  Even tried to make it into matzah brie.  It was terrible, too!=============that's what I keep on hearing.  I need to go and speak to my friend to find out a solution for us. I wonder if she'll be happy if I make a matzah iin her kitchen. that way it will be pas yisrael because she'll switch on the oven (pas yisrael requires that a shomrei shabbos Jew switches on the oven). All my stuff is kosher and I'll bring unopened  ingredients to her home.I'll just have to find out what bracha we need to say over matzah that isn't made from a BROW grain.Shez

[Guest guest]

Just put a hold on the book at the Houston Library!

Thanks!

kathi

--- eye of newt wrote:

---------------------------------

>

> anyway, I far prefer Sephardic cooking to Ashkenazi cooking.

My

> family has always made a Sephardic harosset using dates, wine,

nuts

> and spices. it is so very good.

If y'all need new recipes, I highly recommend Abadi's

cookbook, A Fistful of Lentils. It's *not* a gluten-free

cookbook,

but it is a very interesting Syrian-Jewish cookbook. There are

plenty of naturally GF recipes and hey, you can always replace

bulghur with quinoa.

http://www.abadisms.com/

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1558322183/104-6897122-4858351?

v=glance & n=283155

Note: I'm not Jewish, I'm just into culinary voyages.

It's a great cookbook. I'm vegetarian, but I found plenty of

tasty

options for myself. My husband found lots of recipes he enjoyed

trying out, too. We check it out from the library, but I need

to

just remember to buy it the next time I purchase a cookbook.

ygg

[Guest guest]

Those chicken filled potato balls sound really good....

interesting I guess is a better term. Care to share

the recipe?

kathi

--- Sherene Silverberg wrote:

---------------------------------

>

> Since we are a GF household, we will all be enjoying a

Sephardic

> Passover. There are some GREAT recipes that will be new and

exciting

> for all of us.

=========

we made this decision last year when I was the only celiac in

the

household. Now that we know that all four of us have celiac I am

really glad we made this decision.

anyway, I far prefer Sephardic cooking to Ashkenazi cooking. My

family has always made a Sephardic harosset using dates, wine,

nuts

and spices. it is so very good.

I made a Sephardic " latke " last Chanukkah. It was so delicious.

I

made a spicy ground chicken mix (*recipe calls for lamb but we

dont'

eat lamb) and then used that as the flling in mashed potato

balls. I

then fried the balls. they were wonderful.

I'm still trying to decide whether to buy the oats matzah for

this

year. We are going to very frum friends for the first seder and

they

will only have pas yisrael food in their home which means I

can't

bring my own homemade potato matzah into their home.

Shez

[Guest guest]

I love Jews—Jewish tradition is so honest

with itself, from my perspective. Is it the Yiddish word-spin, Maybe? What

other culture would use such a great word, “frum” like “troll” or “frumpy” or “grump”

that’s also affectionate. Thanks for the explanation. I’m going to spend the

afternoon with my best friend, raised orthodox in Israel this afternoon. We’ll

discuss “frum”.

Laurie

lbilyeu@...

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of Sherene Silverberg

Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006

6:46 AM

To: SillyYaks

Subject: Re: Passover

- To eat rice or not

Oh, gosh,

I thought that was a typo. Educate me again…what’s frum?

===========

Frum is the word we use to describe Jews who follow all the mizvot

(laws) of the Torah (five books of Moses - first five books that are in the

Christian old testament) and the Talmud (the oral law)

There are 613 mitzvot that Jews are supposed to live by. These control

what goes into our mouths, onto our bodies, how we treat our fellow man, how we

treat G-d etc, etc, etc.

The Jews who follow these are called frum. They generally belong

to Orthodox or Chassidic communities, however, you do find frum Jews who belong

to Conservative communities.

Passover has many, many rules and customs. The differences

between frum and non-frum households are really highlighted during this

holiday.

Shez

[Guest guest]

I just ordered it from the library—it

does look good.

Laurie

lbilyeu@...

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of Sherene Silverberg

Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006

6:47 AM

To: SillyYaks

Subject: Re: Passover

- To eat rice or not

>

> If y'all need new recipes, I highly recommend

Abadi's

> cookbook, A Fistful of Lentils. It's

*not* a gluten-free cookbook,

> but it is a very interesting Syrian-Jewish

cookbook. There are

> plenty of naturally GF recipes and hey, you

can always replace

> bulghur with quinoa.

============

A friend has this book and she's mentioned it a

few times. I think I

will go and have a look at it. thanks for the

heads up

shez

[Guest guest]

> Those chicken filled potato balls sound really good....

> interesting I guess is a better term. Care to share

> the recipe?

=======

I'll type the recipe up this weekend

Shez

[Guest guest]

Kathi,

Tell me about it! My sister became frum a few years ago. It has been

quite an education.

Laurie

>

> I'm still trying to decide whether to buy the oats matzah for

> this

> year. We are going to very frum friends for the first seder and

> they

> will only have pas yisrael food in their home which means I

> can't

> bring my own homemade potato matzah into their home.

>

> Shez

>

[Guest guest]

I realize that I am answering this about a month late. Oops.

> I'm still trying to decide whether to buy the oats matzah for this

> year. We are going to very frum friends for the first seder and they

> will only have pas yisrael food in their home which means I can't

> bring my own homemade potato matzah into their home.

You can look at it this way: On Purim, we are uninhibited in our

behavior. On Pesach, we are unhibited in our paranoias about food, so

it's understandable they wouldn't let you bring outside food into

their house.

On oat matza, I think it tastes very good. It reminds me of ish

oat cakes. I can understand that some people don't like oats, though.

I think that I got sick from it once, though, so I don't eat it. I

just don't do matza at all.

On eating legumes, rice, etc: An Orthodox rabbi once told me, without

my having even asked for a leniency, that I could eat them. Still,

for those who are attached to their customs, it is not a big deal to

use quinoa as one's main grain for a week. (Quinoa is technically not

a grain, so is kosher for passover for everyone.) I have done it in

the past, and I think quinoa is actually a bit healthier --- higher in

protein and fiber --- than brown rice.

Janet

[Guest guest]

Hi Laurie.

Speaking as a " returnee " to Judaism, I bet she'll be more normal in a few years.

Janet

> Kathi,

>

> Tell me about it! My sister became frum a few years ago. It has been

> quite an education.

>

> Laurie

>

>

>

> >

> > I'm still trying to decide whether to buy the oats matzah for

> > this

> > year. We are going to very frum friends for the first seder and

> > they

> > will only have pas yisrael food in their home which means I

> > can't

> > bring my own homemade potato matzah into their home.

> >

> > Shez

> >

>

>

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>

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