Re: Different religious leaders

[Guest guest]

Jewel said, " I hear many absolutes in your words . " You can't do anything

yourself. " " You need

someone to save you. " " You need someone to do it for you. "

Take a look at your words and your thinking. Change the absolutes to a

paratrouper.

I bet Jesus has given you the opportunity to make your own choices. "

I'm speaking in absolutes, but I didn't invent those absolutes. That's

Christianity

talking. It's Christianity that teaches that you need to be saved, that you

can't save

yourself. Steppers say the same thing. I don't believe that.

" Jesus " , a.k.a. " God " has supposedly given us the opportunity to make choices -

but woe

betide us if we make the choice that God doesn't like! You can choose, but

you'll get

punished if you make the chioce God doesn't want you to make.

I don't buy that.

(To answer your question, the Dalai Lama is the top guy of Tibetan Buddhism.

He's very

popular, travels around the world making people aware of what is going on in

Tibet, won a

Nobel Prize, writes books, has a delightful and lovely presence.)

Jewel tells us, " Yes, Jesus saves.....Believe... you CAN Believe if you choose

to. "

But...but...see, this is what I was talking about. You're saying it yourself.

*Jesus*

saves. You aren't saying that *we* " save " ourselves and clean up our own lives

(what are

we to be saved from, anyway?). You're saying that a higher power, in this case

Jesus,

does the saving. This is the kind of thing some of us are griping about when we

object to

steppism.

Cheers,

nz

[Guest guest]

Do you think I am a stepper ? Well I am NOT. I am very involved with

SMART Recovery and

REBT. I happen to be a Christian through my own choice.

AA is not for me, never has been. Hope your " budda " tells the truth.

Stay Safe.

Jewel.

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> You're saying that a higher power, in this case Jesus,

> does the saving. This is the kind of thing some of us are griping about when

we object to

> steppism.

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> Cheers,

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> nz

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