Re: new study on oats for children

[Guest guest]

I'm assuming this also applies to adults!?!?

new study on oats for children

> For those who are considering giving oats to their celiac kids, I pass

> along the following abstract:

>

>>From the Coeliac UK newsletter:

>

> " Oats in a gluten-free diet

>

> There have been a lot of studies looking at the toxicity of oats in

> the diet of people with coeliac disease. This interesting study looked

> at the effect of oats in the diet of children on a gluten-free diet by

> looking at antibodies to oats avenins (the protein in oats similar to

> gliadin in wheat). Previous studies have shown that untreated children

> with coeliac disease have circulating antibodies to avenins in their

> blood. The researchers looked at 116 children who were randomly put

> into two groups: one group had a normal gluten-free diet and the other

> had a gluten-free diet plus oats. Anti-avenin antibodies were measured

> at 0, 3, 6 and 12 months. No difference was found between the blood

> results of the two groups. This suggests that oats do not produce an

> immune reaction in children with coeliac disease when they eat an

> otherwise gluten-free diet. The researchers suggest that for oats to

> produce an immune reaction they need to be eaten with a source of gluten.

>

> Ref: Hollen E et al. Coeliac children on a gluten-free diet with or

> without oats display equal anti-avenin antibody titres. Scandinavian

> journal of gastroenterology 2006;41(1):42-7 "

>

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>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I just don't see how this is news. I mean, I think it's been pretty clear that it's not the oats themselves that are the problem, it's the CC with wheat during the harvesting/transportation/storage that is the problem. Although I've heard more and more people using those "home Gluten detection kits" sticking them in a box of Quaker Oats and having it come up fine.... NOT THAT I AM SUGGESTING ANYONE EAT THEM. I am just saying that's what I've heard recently.

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of / O'ConnorSent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:47 PMTo: SillyYaks Subject: Re: new study on oats for children

I'm assuming this also applies to adults!?!? new study on oats for children> For those who are considering giving oats to their celiac kids, I pass> along the following abstract:> >>From the Coeliac UK newsletter:> > "Oats in a gluten-free diet> > There have been a lot of studies looking at the toxicity of oats in> the diet of people with coeliac disease. This interesting study looked> at the effect of oats in the diet of children on a gluten-free diet by> looking at antibodies to oats avenins (the protein in oats similar to> gliadin in wheat). Previous studies have shown that untreated children> with coeliac disease have circulating antibodies to avenins in their> blood. The researchers looked at 116 children who were randomly put> into two groups: one group had a normal gluten-free diet and the other> had a gluten-free diet plus oats. Anti-avenin antibodies were measured> at 0, 3, 6 and 12 months. No difference was found between the blood> results of the two groups. This suggests that oats do not produce an> immune reaction in children with coeliac disease when they eat an> otherwise gluten-free diet. The researchers suggest that for oats to> produce an immune reaction they need to be eaten with a source of gluten.> > Ref: Hollen E et al. Coeliac children on a gluten-free diet with or> without oats display equal anti-avenin antibody titres. Scandinavian> journal of gastroenterology 2006;41(1):42-7"> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Is there really such a thing as a "gluten detection kit"?!!?!??! I'd love to be able to show my sister (who has been great about all of my dietary changes but I still don't think totally buys it) how sneaky gluten can be.

new study on oats for children> For those who are considering giving oats to their celiac kids, I pass> along the following abstract:> >>From the Coeliac UK newsletter:> > "Oats in a gluten-free diet> > There have been a lot of studies looking at the toxicity of oats in> the diet of people with coeliac disease. This interesting study looked> at the effect of oats in the diet of children on a gluten-free diet by> looking at antibodies to oats avenins (the protein in oats similar to> gliadin in wheat). Previous studies have shown that untreated children> with coeliac disease have circulating antibodies to avenins in their> blood. The researchers looked at 116 children who were randomly put> into two groups: one group had a normal gluten-free diet and the other> had a gluten-free diet plus oats. Anti-avenin antibodies were measured> at 0, 3, 6 and 12 months. No difference was found between the blood> results of the two groups. This suggests that oats do not produce an> immune reaction in children with coeliac disease when they eat an> otherwise gluten-free diet. The researchers suggest that for oats to> produce an immune reaction they need to be eaten with a source of gluten.> > Ref: Hollen E et al. Coeliac children on a gluten-free diet with or> without oats display equal anti-avenin antibody titres. Scandinavian> journal of gastroenterology 2006;41(1):42-7"> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

I think what is news is that this is the first research study done

with children. I believe all previous studies were done with adults,

and as children and adults are different/react differently, there were

still questions on the safety of oats for children.

Maureen

p.s. we eat McCann's oats, but you couldn't pay me to eat Quaker oats

>

> I just don't see how this is news. I mean, I think it's been pretty

> clear that it's not the oats themselves that are the problem, it's the

> CC with wheat during the harvesting/transportation/storage that is the

> problem. Although I've heard more and more people using those " home

> Gluten detection kits " sticking them in a box of Quaker Oats and having

> it come up fine.... NOT THAT I AM SUGGESTING ANYONE EAT THEM. I am just

> saying that's what I've heard recently.

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On

> Behalf Of / O'Connor

> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:47 PM

> To: SillyYaks

> Subject: Re: new study on oats for children

>

>

> I'm assuming this also applies to adults!?!?

>

>

> new study on oats for children

>

>

> > For those who are considering giving oats to their celiac kids, I pass

> > along the following abstract:

> >

> >>From the Coeliac UK newsletter:

> >

> > " Oats in a gluten-free diet

> >

> > There have been a lot of studies looking at the toxicity of oats in

> > the diet of people with coeliac disease. This interesting study looked

> > at the effect of oats in the diet of children on a gluten-free diet by

> > looking at antibodies to oats avenins (the protein in oats similar to

> > gliadin in wheat). Previous studies have shown that untreated children

> > with coeliac disease have circulating antibodies to avenins in their

> > blood. The researchers looked at 116 children who were randomly put

> > into two groups: one group had a normal gluten-free diet and the other

> > had a gluten-free diet plus oats. Anti-avenin antibodies were measured

> > at 0, 3, 6 and 12 months. No difference was found between the blood

> > results of the two groups. This suggests that oats do not produce an

> > immune reaction in children with coeliac disease when they eat an

> > otherwise gluten-free diet. The researchers suggest that for oats to

> > produce an immune reaction they need to be eaten with a source of

> gluten.

> >

> > Ref: Hollen E et al. Coeliac children on a gluten-free diet with or

> > without oats display equal anti-avenin antibody titres. Scandinavian

> > journal of gastroenterology 2006;41(1):42-7 "

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes there is. My health food store has them on their shelves, but I have yet to buy one. They are a little on the pricey side, but it might be worth the experiment. A couple people in my local support group have used them and said they worked. They sort of look/act like pregnancy tests....I'll get the information the next time I'm in there.

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of / O'ConnorSent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:54 PMTo: SillyYaks Subject: Re: new study on oats for children

Is there really such a thing as a "gluten detection kit"?!!?!??! I'd love to be able to show my sister (who has been great about all of my dietary changes but I still don't think totally buys it) how sneaky gluten can be.

new study on oats for children> For those who are considering giving oats to their celiac kids, I pass> along the following abstract:> >>From the Coeliac UK newsletter:> > "Oats in a gluten-free diet> > There have been a lot of studies looking at the toxicity of oats in> the diet of people with coeliac disease. This interesting study looked> at the effect of oats in the diet of children on a gluten-free diet by> looking at antibodies to oats avenins (the protein in oats similar to> gliadin in wheat). Previous studies have shown that untreated children> with coeliac disease have circulating antibodies to avenins in their> blood. The researchers looked at 116 children who were randomly put> into two groups: one group had a normal gluten-free diet and the other> had a gluten-free diet plus oats. Anti-avenin antibodies were measured> at 0, 3, 6 and 12 months. No difference was found between the blood> results of the two groups. This suggests that oats do not produce an> immune reaction in children with coeliac disease when they eat an> otherwise gluten-free diet. The researchers suggest that for oats to> produce an immune reaction they need to be eaten with a source of gluten.> > Ref: Hollen E et al. Coeliac children on a gluten-free diet with or> without oats display equal anti-avenin antibody titres. Scandinavian> journal of gastroenterology 2006;41(1):42-7"> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

I use you guys for a gluten detection kit. If I am thinking about eating something, I try to talk one of you into eating it and then observe if you post about stomach ache, explosive diarrhea, etc. It's not as fast as the store bought kit, but it is a whole lot cheaper.

--E new study on oats for children> For those who are considering giving oats to their celiac kids, I pass> along the following abstract:> >>From the Coeliac UK newsletter:> > "Oats in a gluten-free diet> > There have been a lot of studies looking at the toxicity of oats in> the diet of people with coeliac disease. This interesting study looked> at the effect of oats in the diet of children on a gluten-free diet by> looking at antibodies to oats avenins (the protein in oats similar to> gliadin in wheat). Previous studies have shown that untreated children> with coeliac disease have circulating antibodies to avenins in

their> blood. The researchers looked at 116 children who were randomly put> into two groups: one group had a normal gluten-free diet and the other> had a gluten-free diet plus oats. Anti-avenin antibodies were measured> at 0, 3, 6 and 12 months. No difference was found between the blood> results of the two groups. This suggests that oats do not produce an> immune reaction in children with coeliac disease when they eat an> otherwise gluten-free diet. The researchers suggest that for oats to> produce an immune reaction they need to be eaten with a source of gluten.> > Ref: Hollen E et al. Coeliac children on a gluten-free diet with or> without oats display equal anti-avenin antibody titres. Scandinavian> journal of gastroenterology 2006;41(1):42-7"> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Ahhh...like the french fries. THAT's why you were so adament that we all eat them! And why you kept encouraging the posts. hahahahah...

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of SlinkmanSent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:15 PMTo: SillyYaks Subject: Re: new study on oats for children

I use you guys for a gluten detection kit. If I am thinking about eating something, I try to talk one of you into eating it and then observe if you post about stomach ache, explosive diarrhea, etc. It's not as fast as the store bought kit, but it is a whole lot cheaper.

--E new study on oats for children> For those who are considering giving oats to their celiac kids, I pass> along the following abstract:> >>From the Coeliac UK newsletter:> > "Oats in a gluten-free diet> > There have been a lot of studies looking at the toxicity of oats in> the diet of people with coeliac disease. This interesting study looked> at the effect of oats in the diet of children on a gluten-free diet by> looking at antibodies to oats avenins (the protein in oats similar to> gliadin in wheat). Previous studies have shown that untreated children> with coeliac disease have circulating antibodies to avenins in their> blood. The researchers looked at 116 children who were randomly put> into two groups: one group had a normal gluten-free diet and the other> had a gluten-free diet plus oats. Anti-avenin antibodies were measured> at 0, 3, 6 and 12 months. No difference was found between the blood> results of the two groups. This suggests that oats do not produce an> immune reaction in children with coeliac disease when they eat an> otherwise gluten-free diet. The researchers suggest that for oats to> produce an immune reaction they need to be eaten with a source of gluten.> > Ref: Hollen E et al. Coeliac children on a gluten-free diet with or> without oats display equal anti-avenin antibody titres. Scandinavian> journal of gastroenterology 2006;41(1):42-7"> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Why don't you stop posting and go get yourself a nice, hot, fresh order of delicious french fries. Mmmm.. Don't they sound good right about now?

--E new study on oats for children> For those who are considering giving oats to their celiac kids, I pass> along the following abstract:> >>From the Coeliac UK newsletter:> > "Oats in a gluten-free diet> > There have been a lot of studies looking at the toxicity of oats in> the diet of people with coeliac disease. This interesting study looked> at the effect of oats in the diet of children on a gluten-free diet by> looking at antibodies to oats avenins (the protein in oats similar to> gliadin in wheat). Previous studies have shown that untreated children> with coeliac disease have circulating antibodies to avenins in

their> blood. The researchers looked at 116 children who were randomly put> into two groups: one group had a normal gluten-free diet and the other> had a gluten-free diet plus oats. Anti-avenin antibodies were measured> at 0, 3, 6 and 12 months. No difference was found between the blood> results of the two groups. This suggests that oats do not produce an> immune reaction in children with coeliac disease when they eat an> otherwise gluten-free diet. The researchers suggest that for oats to> produce an immune reaction they need to be eaten with a source of gluten.> > Ref: Hollen E et al. Coeliac children on a gluten-free diet with or> without oats display equal anti-avenin antibody titres. Scandinavian> journal of gastroenterology 2006;41(1):42-7"> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

actually, as soon as I got the word we did!

What you SHOULD say is why don't I get back to work...which is what I SHOULD be doing...

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of SlinkmanSent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:21 PMTo: SillyYaks Subject: Re: new study on oats for children

Why don't you stop posting and go get yourself a nice, hot, fresh order of delicious french fries. Mmmm.. Don't they sound good right about now?

--E new study on oats for children> For those who are considering giving oats to their celiac kids, I pass> along the following abstract:> >>From the Coeliac UK newsletter:> > "Oats in a gluten-free diet> > There have been a lot of studies looking at the toxicity of oats in> the diet of people with coeliac disease. This interesting study looked> at the effect of oats in the diet of children on a gluten-free diet by> looking at antibodies to oats avenins (the protein in oats similar to> gliadin in wheat). Previous studies have shown that untreated children> with coeliac disease have circulating antibodies to avenins in their> blood. The researchers looked at 116 children who were randomly put> into two groups: one group had a normal gluten-free diet and the other> had a gluten-free diet plus oats. Anti-avenin antibodies were measured> at 0, 3, 6 and 12 months. No difference was found between the blood> results of the two groups. This suggests that oats do not produce an> immune reaction in children with coeliac disease when they eat an> otherwise gluten-free diet. The researchers suggest that for oats to> produce an immune reaction they need to be eaten with a source of gluten.> > Ref: Hollen E et al. Coeliac children on a gluten-free diet with or> without oats display equal anti-avenin antibody titres. Scandinavian> journal of gastroenterology 2006;41(1):42-7"> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks. It might be a fun experiment. If not, we'll try to find a way to make a test subject

new study on oats for children> For those who are considering giving oats to their celiac kids, I pass> along the following abstract:> >>From the Coeliac UK newsletter:> > "Oats in a gluten-free diet> > There have been a lot of studies looking at the toxicity of oats in> the diet of people with coeliac disease. This interesting study looked> at the effect of oats in the diet of children on a gluten-free diet by> looking at antibodies to oats avenins (the protein in oats similar to> gliadin in wheat). Previous studies have shown that untreated children> with coeliac disease have circulating antibodies to avenins in their> blood. The researchers looked at 116 children who were randomly put> into two groups: one group had a normal gluten-free diet and the other> had a gluten-free diet plus oats. Anti-avenin antibodies were measured> at 0, 3, 6 and 12 months. No difference was found between the blood> results of the two groups. This suggests that oats do not produce an> immune reaction in children with coeliac disease when they eat an> otherwise gluten-free diet. The researchers suggest that for oats to> produce an immune reaction they need to be eaten with a source of gluten.> > Ref: Hollen E et al. Coeliac children on a gluten-free diet with or> without oats display equal anti-avenin antibody titres. Scandinavian> journal of gastroenterology 2006;41(1):42-7"> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hmmm.... .

What does that mean as to the accuracy of your test kit vs. restaurant fries?

-----Original Message-----

I use you guys for a gluten detection kit. If I am thinking about eating something, I try to talk one of you into eating it and then observe if you post about stomach ache, explosive diarrhea, etc. It's not as fast as the store bought kit, but it is a whole lot cheaper.

--E

[Guest guest]

How pricy are we talking here?

>

> Yes there is. My health food store has them on their shelves, but

I have

> yet to buy one. They are a little on the pricey side, but it might

be

> worth the experiment. A couple people in my local support group

have

> used them and said they worked. They sort of look/act like

pregnancy

> tests....I'll get the information the next time I'm in there.

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ]

On

> Behalf Of / O'Connor

> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:54 PM

> To: SillyYaks

> Subject: Re: new study on oats for children

>

>

> Is there really such a thing as a " gluten detection kit " ?!!?!??!

I'd

> love to be able to show my sister (who has been great about all of

my

> dietary changes but I still don't think totally buys it) how sneaky

> gluten can be.

>

>

>

> new study on oats for children

>

>

> > For those who are considering giving oats to their celiac

> kids, I pass

> > along the following abstract:

> >

> >>From the Coeliac UK newsletter:

> >

> > " Oats in a gluten-free diet

> >

> > There have been a lot of studies looking at the toxicity of

> oats in

> > the diet of people with coeliac disease. This interesting

> study looked

> > at the effect of oats in the diet of children on a gluten-

free

> diet by

> > looking at antibodies to oats avenins (the protein in oats

> similar to

> > gliadin in wheat). Previous studies have shown that

untreated

> children

> > with coeliac disease have circulating antibodies to

avenins in

> their

> > blood. The researchers looked at 116 children who were

> randomly put

> > into two groups: one group had a normal gluten-free diet

and

> the other

> > had a gluten-free diet plus oats. Anti-avenin antibodies

were

> measured

> > at 0, 3, 6 and 12 months. No difference was found between

the

> blood

> > results of the two groups. This suggests that oats do not

> produce an

> > immune reaction in children with coeliac disease when they

eat

> an

> > otherwise gluten-free diet. The researchers suggest that

for

> oats to

> > produce an immune reaction they need to be eaten with a

source

> of gluten.

> >

> > Ref: Hollen E et al. Coeliac children on a gluten-free diet

> with or

> > without oats display equal anti-avenin antibody titres.

> Scandinavian

> > journal of gastroenterology 2006;41(1):42-7 "

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I saw a magazine ad that listed 6 kits for $112. There's nothing I'm

so desperate to eat that I'd pay that!

Maureen

> >

> > Yes there is. My health food store has them on their shelves, but

> I have

> > yet to buy one. They are a little on the pricey side, but it might

> be

> > worth the experiment. A couple people in my local support group

> have

> > used them and said they worked. They sort of look/act like

> pregnancy

> > tests....I'll get the information the next time I'm in there.

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ]

> On

> > Behalf Of / O'Connor

> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:54 PM

> > To: SillyYaks

> > Subject: Re: new study on oats for children

> >

> >

> > Is there really such a thing as a " gluten detection kit " ?!!?!??!

> I'd

> > love to be able to show my sister (who has been great about all of

> my

> > dietary changes but I still don't think totally buys it) how sneaky

> > gluten can be.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I don't think the one in my health food store is that expensive. I'll check, not

tomorrow as I'm held up all day, but I can try to get there Friday.

________________________________

From: SillyYaks on behalf of marcianar

Sent: Wed 3/1/2006 5:33 PM

To: SillyYaks

Subject: Re: new study on oats for children

I saw a magazine ad that listed 6 kits for $112. There's nothing I'm

so desperate to eat that I'd pay that!

Maureen

> >

> > Yes there is. My health food store has them on their shelves, but

> I have

> > yet to buy one. They are a little on the pricey side, but it might

> be

> > worth the experiment. A couple people in my local support group

> have

> > used them and said they worked. They sort of look/act like

> pregnancy

> > tests....I'll get the information the next time I'm in there.

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ]

> On

> > Behalf Of / O'Connor

> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:54 PM

> > To: SillyYaks

> > Subject: Re: new study on oats for children

> >

> >

> > Is there really such a thing as a " gluten detection kit " ?!!?!??!

> I'd

> > love to be able to show my sister (who has been great about all of

> my

> > dietary changes but I still don't think totally buys it) how sneaky

> > gluten can be.

> >

> >