Re: Unhappy situation.....scared the man.- Kaye

[Guest guest]

Decadron for sure !! my sugar numbers were up over 700..very bad as you

know..had to have 2 pills a day and 5 and sometimes 6 shots a day....steroids

make sugar go up...it did not matter what I ate it would go up for about 3 days

after treatments...

sometimes I feel I am butting in if someone has a name in front to someone...but

I would rather be told to butt out than set here and might be able to help..you

know what I mean...I do not know anything about the other medicine..but do know

about decadron..I am now on erbitux alone and doing good...also the oxaliplatin

is given in a bag of glucose...it will not work with saline...and you know what

glucose is.....don't mean to alarm you but maybe need to push the subject with

the dr. more...some oncologist do not know, but diabeties drs.do...I was put on

what they call a sliding rule with insulin.....hope this helps...hugs, keep me

posted..love ,kaye biggs

Re: Unhappy situation.....scared the man.-

Kaye

In a message dated 2/12/2005 10:53:42 AM Eastern Standard Time,

kayeskuts@... writes:

I am diabetic and some of the pre-meds made my sugar sky rocket...what meds

and chemo is he taking??? didn't mean to interrupt the conversation here but

thought maybe I could help...hugs,kaye biggs

Hi Kaye...

You're welcome to " interupt " any time. I'm not sure I understand about

" interupting " ... Are you only suppose to respond if spoken to?? If so, I'm

interrupting all the time... Sorry. I would rather someone speak up if they

have

any kind of input to my posts!! LMK if I'm out of line here.

Glen is on 5FU/Leuk/Oxal/Avastin 46 hr infusions with Anzamet and Decadron

pre-meds.

He's been having some severe abdomen pains (upper and lower) for the past

few days, plus some nasal passage burning w/some bleeding, plus the

hoarseness.... His platelets drop every couple weeks and his neurophils were

below l000

last week. What will happen if they decide his body can't take this regimen

anymore??

Lots of hugs and prayers, Donelle

Caregiver to Glenn

Colon resection 6/03, open wound for 2 months, chemo for 8 months

Mets to Liver found 4/04, inoperable; one tumor too close to artery and vein

Chemo infiltration to chest 8/04 with severe side effects including severe

pain and muscle damage (permanent??), unable to eat, colon shut down,

hospitalization w/morphine 8 days

Fluid build-up and draining on a regular weekly basis

11/09/04 on 5FU/Leu/Oxaliplatin/Avastin " cocktails " 46 hr. infusions

TRYING TO KICK BUTT with this darn disease!!!

[Guest guest]

Hope I can help....Yes, the sliding rule is when you test your blood sugar and

if is a certain amount than you take a certain amount of

insulin...stress(((whatever that is)))))) makes sugar number go higher too..I

will be checking here to find what I can on the meds...does he have a dr. for

diabeties?? both of my drs. worked together..my oncologist was not as aware of

the meds as my diabeties dr.....Your husband can have dizziness, shakes, times

of just feeling like crap, and that is mostly from diabeties ..and the meds

making it go so high..that is dangerous...sugar numbers that high can give you

yeast infections under the arms,etc....so if he itches that can be from

that...hugs,kaye...........yes, hang in there with him...I have been doing this

for over 5 years at stage IV..so we just have to stay positive and look for

answers..and you have a hard job too......my husband had stage 2 colon cancer

almost 18 years ago..he is fine and still going strong....no problems but taking

care of me now...hugs,kaye

Re: Unhappy situation.....scared the man.-

Kaye

In a message dated 2/12/2005 1:34:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,

kayeskuts@... writes:

Decadron for sure !! my sugar numbers were up over 700..very bad as you

know..had to have 2 pills a day and 5 and sometimes 6 shots a day....steroids

make sugar go up...it did not matter what I ate it would go up for about 3

days

after treatments...

sometimes I feel I am butting in if someone has a name in front to

someone...but I would rather be told to butt out than set here and might be

able to

help..you know what I mean...I do not know anything about the other

medicine..but do know about decadron..I am now on erbitux alone and doing

good...also

the oxaliplatin is given in a bag of glucose...it will not work with

saline...and you know what glucose is.....don't mean to alarm you but maybe

need to

push the subject with the dr. more...some oncologist do not know, but

diabeties

drs.do...I was put on what they call a sliding rule with insulin.....hope

this helps...hugs, keep me posted..love ,kaye biggs

Kaye...it certainly does help...and gives me something to go on when we see

the Onc on the 23rd. I may call him before that...actually we called him on

Thurs. but he was out of town until Tues. The nerve of him...taking time

off!!! LOL

I'm not all that familiar with the treatment of Diabetes...always left that

up to Glenn..which he never did!!! I need to do some research, I guess.

What is a sliding rule with the insulin?? Where you take so much and then

test

again and if it's still high, take another dose?? That's basically what dr.

told Glenn to do to get it down to at least 150.

Not alarmed, Kaye, but enlightened....and thank you so much for butting

in!!! LOL

This guy is NOT an easy patient to deal with, but I'm trying. I would hate

like heck for something to happen to him, b/c of b/s...when he's going

through all this other crap with the Cancer and treatments!!! That would

just be

unforgivable on my part...his, too!!! Anything else you think of to help me

understand the monitoring and treatment of the Diabetes, I will appreciate.

I

don't think he understands all that well either.

Lots of hugs and prayers, Donelle

Caregiver to Glenn

Colon resection 6/03, open wound for 2 months, chemo for 8 months

Mets to Liver found 4/04, inoperable; one tumor too close to artery and vein

Chemo infiltration to chest 8/04 with severe side effects including severe

pain and muscle damage (permanent??), unable to eat, colon shut down,

hospitalization w/morphine 8 days

Fluid build-up and draining on a regular weekly basis

11/09/04 on 5FU/Leu/Oxaliplatin/Avastin " cocktails " 46 hr. infusions

TRYING TO KICK BUTT with this darn disease!!!

[Guest guest]

thanks for the kind words...I have been taking Erbitux over 3 months now...I had

a rash on my face(not bad) and in my hair, some on my arms and chest...but I

used Benedryl cream on it all and it really helped...I have NO OTHER side

effects..and the rash is nothing compared to diarrhea, etc...I can not take

CPT11 with Erbitux so I am taking it alone...CPT 11 was almost fatal when I took

it almost 2 years ago....since being on erbitux.my CEA was 162 and went to 95 in

5 weeks ..and has come down some more.....all my other blood work is good and so

is my kidneys and liver functions...so we just keep taking it....I can not take

Avastin as I have had several problems with blood clots.. hang in there

and.hugs, kaye

Re: Unhappy situation.....scared

the man.- Kaye

>

>

>

> In a message dated 2/12/2005 1:34:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> kayeskuts@i... writes:

>

> Decadron for sure !! my sugar numbers were up over 700..very

bad as you

> know..had to have 2 pills a day and 5 and sometimes 6 shots a

day....steroids

> make sugar go up...it did not matter what I ate it would go up

for about 3 days

> after treatments...

> sometimes I feel I am butting in if someone has a name in front

to

> someone...but I would rather be told to butt out than set here

and might be able to

> help..you know what I mean...I do not know anything about the

other

> medicine..but do know about decadron..I am now on erbitux alone

and doing good...also

> the oxaliplatin is given in a bag of glucose...it will not work

with

> saline...and you know what glucose is.....don't mean to alarm

you but maybe need to

> push the subject with the dr. more...some oncologist do not

know, but diabeties

> drs.do...I was put on what they call a sliding rule with

insulin.....hope

> this helps...hugs, keep me posted..love ,kaye biggs

>

>

>

> Kaye...it certainly does help...and gives me something to go on

when we see

> the Onc on the 23rd. I may call him before that...actually we

called him on

> Thurs. but he was out of town until Tues. The nerve of

him...taking time

> off!!! LOL

>

> I'm not all that familiar with the treatment of

Diabetes...always left that

> up to Glenn..which he never did!!! I need to do some research,

I guess.

> What is a sliding rule with the insulin?? Where you take so

much and then test

> again and if it's still high, take another dose?? That's

basically what dr.

> told Glenn to do to get it down to at least 150.

>

> Not alarmed, Kaye, but enlightened....and thank you so much for

butting

> in!!! LOL

> This guy is NOT an easy patient to deal with, but I'm trying. I

would hate

> like heck for something to happen to him, b/c of b/s...when he's

going

> through all this other crap with the Cancer and treatments!!!

That would just be

> unforgivable on my part...his, too!!! Anything else you think

of to help me

> understand the monitoring and treatment of the Diabetes, I will

appreciate. I

> don't think he understands all that well either.

>

> Lots of hugs and prayers, Donelle

> Caregiver to Glenn

>

>

> Colon resection 6/03, open wound for 2 months, chemo for 8 months

> Mets to Liver found 4/04, inoperable; one tumor too close to

artery and vein

> Chemo infiltration to chest 8/04 with severe side effects

including severe

> pain and muscle damage (permanent??), unable to eat, colon shut

down,

> hospitalization w/morphine 8 days

> Fluid build-up and draining on a regular weekly basis

> 11/09/04 on 5FU/Leu/Oxaliplatin/Avastin " cocktails " 46 hr.

infusions

> TRYING TO KICK BUTT with this darn disease!!!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am glad he can finish the CPT11...I was in the hospital twice for dehydration,

low white counts and vomiting , diahrea...it was the worse one for me...Erbitux

is a breeze compared to anything else...hope he can take it and do well

also...give him a big hug for me and one for yourself too..hang in there..you

both are doing good..just wish we or anyone has to have this battle...Hugs,kaye

Re: Unhappy

situation.....scared

> the man.- Kaye

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 2/12/2005 1:34:03 PM Eastern Standard

Time,

> > kayeskuts@i... writes:

> >

> > Decadron for sure !! my sugar numbers were up over

700..very

> bad as you

> > know..had to have 2 pills a day and 5 and sometimes 6 shots

a

> day....steroids

> > make sugar go up...it did not matter what I ate it would go

up

> for about 3 days

> > after treatments...

> > sometimes I feel I am butting in if someone has a name in

front

> to

> > someone...but I would rather be told to butt out than set

here

> and might be able to

> > help..you know what I mean...I do not know anything about

the

> other

> > medicine..but do know about decadron..I am now on erbitux

alone

> and doing good...also

> > the oxaliplatin is given in a bag of glucose...it will not

work

> with

> > saline...and you know what glucose is.....don't mean to alarm

> you but maybe need to

> > push the subject with the dr. more...some oncologist do not

> know, but diabeties

> > drs.do...I was put on what they call a sliding rule with

> insulin.....hope

> > this helps...hugs, keep me posted..love ,kaye biggs

> >

> >

> >

> > Kaye...it certainly does help...and gives me something to go

on

> when we see

> > the Onc on the 23rd. I may call him before that...actually

we

> called him on

> > Thurs. but he was out of town until Tues. The nerve of

> him...taking time

> > off!!! LOL

> >

> > I'm not all that familiar with the treatment of

> Diabetes...always left that

> > up to Glenn..which he never did!!! I need to do some

research,

> I guess.

> > What is a sliding rule with the insulin?? Where you take so

> much and then test

> > again and if it's still high, take another dose?? That's

> basically what dr.

> > told Glenn to do to get it down to at least 150.

> >

> > Not alarmed, Kaye, but enlightened....and thank you so much

for

> butting

> > in!!! LOL

> > This guy is NOT an easy patient to deal with, but I'm

trying. I

> would hate

> > like heck for something to happen to him, b/c of b/s...when

he's

> going

> > through all this other crap with the Cancer and

treatments!!!

> That would just be

> > unforgivable on my part...his, too!!! Anything else you

think

> of to help me

> > understand the monitoring and treatment of the Diabetes, I

will

> appreciate. I

> > don't think he understands all that well either.

> >

> > Lots of hugs and prayers, Donelle

> > Caregiver to Glenn

> >

> >

> > Colon resection 6/03, open wound for 2 months, chemo for 8

months

> > Mets to Liver found 4/04, inoperable; one tumor too close to

> artery and vein

> > Chemo infiltration to chest 8/04 with severe side effects

> including severe

> > pain and muscle damage (permanent??), unable to eat, colon

shut

> down,

> > hospitalization w/morphine 8 days

> > Fluid build-up and draining on a regular weekly basis

> > 11/09/04 on 5FU/Leu/Oxaliplatin/Avastin " cocktails " 46 hr.

> infusions

> > TRYING TO KICK BUTT with this darn disease!!!

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/12/2005 10:53:42 AM Eastern Standard Time,

kayeskuts@... writes:

I am diabetic and some of the pre-meds made my sugar sky rocket...what meds

and chemo is he taking??? didn't mean to interrupt the conversation here but

thought maybe I could help...hugs,kaye biggs

Hi Kaye...

You're welcome to " interupt " any time. I'm not sure I understand about

" interupting " ... Are you only suppose to respond if spoken to?? If so, I'm

interrupting all the time... Sorry. I would rather someone speak up if they

have

any kind of input to my posts!! LMK if I'm out of line here.

Glen is on 5FU/Leuk/Oxal/Avastin 46 hr infusions with Anzamet and Decadron

pre-meds.

He's been having some severe abdomen pains (upper and lower) for the past

few days, plus some nasal passage burning w/some bleeding, plus the

hoarseness.... His platelets drop every couple weeks and his neurophils were

below l000

last week. What will happen if they decide his body can't take this regimen

anymore??

Lots of hugs and prayers, Donelle

Caregiver to Glenn

Colon resection 6/03, open wound for 2 months, chemo for 8 months

Mets to Liver found 4/04, inoperable; one tumor too close to artery and vein

Chemo infiltration to chest 8/04 with severe side effects including severe

pain and muscle damage (permanent??), unable to eat, colon shut down,

hospitalization w/morphine 8 days

Fluid build-up and draining on a regular weekly basis

11/09/04 on 5FU/Leu/Oxaliplatin/Avastin " cocktails " 46 hr. infusions

TRYING TO KICK BUTT with this darn disease!!!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/12/2005 1:34:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,

kayeskuts@... writes:

Decadron for sure !! my sugar numbers were up over 700..very bad as you

know..had to have 2 pills a day and 5 and sometimes 6 shots a day....steroids

make sugar go up...it did not matter what I ate it would go up for about 3 days

after treatments...

sometimes I feel I am butting in if someone has a name in front to

someone...but I would rather be told to butt out than set here and might be

able to

help..you know what I mean...I do not know anything about the other

medicine..but do know about decadron..I am now on erbitux alone and doing

good...also

the oxaliplatin is given in a bag of glucose...it will not work with

saline...and you know what glucose is.....don't mean to alarm you but maybe

need to

push the subject with the dr. more...some oncologist do not know, but diabeties

drs.do...I was put on what they call a sliding rule with insulin.....hope

this helps...hugs, keep me posted..love ,kaye biggs

Kaye...it certainly does help...and gives me something to go on when we see

the Onc on the 23rd. I may call him before that...actually we called him on

Thurs. but he was out of town until Tues. The nerve of him...taking time

off!!! LOL

I'm not all that familiar with the treatment of Diabetes...always left that

up to Glenn..which he never did!!! I need to do some research, I guess.

What is a sliding rule with the insulin?? Where you take so much and then test

again and if it's still high, take another dose?? That's basically what dr.

told Glenn to do to get it down to at least 150.

Not alarmed, Kaye, but enlightened....and thank you so much for butting

in!!! LOL

This guy is NOT an easy patient to deal with, but I'm trying. I would hate

like heck for something to happen to him, b/c of b/s...when he's going

through all this other crap with the Cancer and treatments!!! That would just

be

unforgivable on my part...his, too!!! Anything else you think of to help me

understand the monitoring and treatment of the Diabetes, I will appreciate. I

don't think he understands all that well either.

Lots of hugs and prayers, Donelle

Caregiver to Glenn

Colon resection 6/03, open wound for 2 months, chemo for 8 months

Mets to Liver found 4/04, inoperable; one tumor too close to artery and vein

Chemo infiltration to chest 8/04 with severe side effects including severe

pain and muscle damage (permanent??), unable to eat, colon shut down,

hospitalization w/morphine 8 days

Fluid build-up and draining on a regular weekly basis

11/09/04 on 5FU/Leu/Oxaliplatin/Avastin " cocktails " 46 hr. infusions

TRYING TO KICK BUTT with this darn disease!!!

[Guest guest]

Well they did tell me that decadron and dextrose or whatever else they

were giving me could raise my blood sugar, but evidently it doesn't so I

am thankful, because it is one of my feel good drugs, takes all my joint

aches away, and course helps me breathe a little better .. Jolene

Grandmommyandme@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 2/12/2005 1:34:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> kayeskuts@... writes:

>

> Decadron for sure !! my sugar numbers were up over 700..very bad as you

> know..had to have 2 pills a day and 5 and sometimes 6 shots a

> day....steroids

> make sugar go up...it did not matter what I ate it would go up for

> about 3 days

> after treatments...

> sometimes I feel I am butting in if someone has a name in front to

> someone...but I would rather be told to butt out than set here and

> might be able to

> help..you know what I mean...I do not know anything about the other

> medicine..but do know about decadron..I am now on erbitux alone and

> doing good...also

> the oxaliplatin is given in a bag of glucose...it will not work with

> saline...and you know what glucose is.....don't mean to alarm you but

> maybe need to

> push the subject with the dr. more...some oncologist do not know, but

> diabeties

> drs.do...I was put on what they call a sliding rule with

> insulin.....hope

> this helps...hugs, keep me posted..love ,kaye biggs

>

>

>

> Kaye...it certainly does help...and gives me something to go on when

> we see

> the Onc on the 23rd. I may call him before that...actually we called

> him on

> Thurs. but he was out of town until Tues. The nerve of him...taking

> time

> off!!! LOL

>

> I'm not all that familiar with the treatment of Diabetes...always

> left that

> up to Glenn..which he never did!!! I need to do some research, I

> guess.

> What is a sliding rule with the insulin?? Where you take so much and

> then test

> again and if it's still high, take another dose?? That's basically

> what dr.

> told Glenn to do to get it down to at least 150.

>

> Not alarmed, Kaye, but enlightened....and thank you so much for butting

> in!!! LOL

> This guy is NOT an easy patient to deal with, but I'm trying. I

> would hate

> like heck for something to happen to him, b/c of b/s...when he's going

> through all this other crap with the Cancer and treatments!!! That

> would just be

> unforgivable on my part...his, too!!! Anything else you think of to

> help me

> understand the monitoring and treatment of the Diabetes, I will

> appreciate. I

> don't think he understands all that well either.

>

> Lots of hugs and prayers, Donelle

> Caregiver to Glenn

>

>

> Colon resection 6/03, open wound for 2 months, chemo for 8 months

> Mets to Liver found 4/04, inoperable; one tumor too close to artery

> and vein

> Chemo infiltration to chest 8/04 with severe side effects including

> severe

> pain and muscle damage (permanent??), unable to eat, colon shut down,

> hospitalization w/morphine 8 days

> Fluid build-up and draining on a regular weekly basis

> 11/09/04 on 5FU/Leu/Oxaliplatin/Avastin " cocktails " 46 hr. infusions

> TRYING TO KICK BUTT with this darn disease!!!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kaye

You are an inspiration for sure, going on over 5 years. Galen started

his trek thru all of this 5 years ago.

You said you are getting along on Erbutux, I am glad of that. I read

the stories in hear by everyone and tell Galen about them,and how

they handle different situations it really helps to hear from someone

who has experienced it.

He is going to start the Erbutux hopefully, the Onc wants to put him

on it. Have you experienced any ill side effects from it. I have read

some things about bad rashes etc. I think that sort of made me leary.

I was just wondering!

Take Care & Hugs to you!

Liz

Wife of Galen stg 4

> Hope I can help....Yes, the sliding rule is when you test your

blood sugar and if is a certain amount than you take a certain amount

of insulin...stress(((whatever that is)))))) makes sugar number go

higher too..I will be checking here to find what I can on the

meds...does he have a dr. for diabeties?? both of my drs. worked

together..my oncologist was not as aware of the meds as my diabeties

dr.....Your husband can have dizziness, shakes, times of just feeling

like crap, and that is mostly from diabeties ..and the meds making it

go so high..that is dangerous...sugar numbers that high can give you

yeast infections under the arms,etc....so if he itches that can be

from that...hugs,kaye...........yes, hang in there with him...I have

been doing this for over 5 years at stage IV..so we just have to stay

positive and look for answers..and you have a hard job too......my

husband had stage 2 colon cancer almost 18 years ago..he is fine and

still going strong....no problems but taking care of me

now...hugs,kaye

> Re: Unhappy situation.....scared

the man.- Kaye

>

>

>

> In a message dated 2/12/2005 1:34:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> kayeskuts@i... writes:

>

> Decadron for sure !! my sugar numbers were up over 700..very

bad as you

> know..had to have 2 pills a day and 5 and sometimes 6 shots a

day....steroids

> make sugar go up...it did not matter what I ate it would go up

for about 3 days

> after treatments...

> sometimes I feel I am butting in if someone has a name in front

to

> someone...but I would rather be told to butt out than set here

and might be able to

> help..you know what I mean...I do not know anything about the

other

> medicine..but do know about decadron..I am now on erbitux alone

and doing good...also

> the oxaliplatin is given in a bag of glucose...it will not work

with

> saline...and you know what glucose is.....don't mean to alarm

you but maybe need to

> push the subject with the dr. more...some oncologist do not

know, but diabeties

> drs.do...I was put on what they call a sliding rule with

insulin.....hope

> this helps...hugs, keep me posted..love ,kaye biggs

>

>

>

> Kaye...it certainly does help...and gives me something to go on

when we see

> the Onc on the 23rd. I may call him before that...actually we

called him on

> Thurs. but he was out of town until Tues. The nerve of

him...taking time

> off!!! LOL

>

> I'm not all that familiar with the treatment of

Diabetes...always left that

> up to Glenn..which he never did!!! I need to do some research,

I guess.

> What is a sliding rule with the insulin?? Where you take so

much and then test

> again and if it's still high, take another dose?? That's

basically what dr.

> told Glenn to do to get it down to at least 150.

>

> Not alarmed, Kaye, but enlightened....and thank you so much for

butting

> in!!! LOL

> This guy is NOT an easy patient to deal with, but I'm trying. I

would hate

> like heck for something to happen to him, b/c of b/s...when he's

going

> through all this other crap with the Cancer and treatments!!!

That would just be

> unforgivable on my part...his, too!!! Anything else you think

of to help me

> understand the monitoring and treatment of the Diabetes, I will

appreciate. I

> don't think he understands all that well either.

>

> Lots of hugs and prayers, Donelle

> Caregiver to Glenn

>

>

> Colon resection 6/03, open wound for 2 months, chemo for 8 months

> Mets to Liver found 4/04, inoperable; one tumor too close to

artery and vein

> Chemo infiltration to chest 8/04 with severe side effects

including severe

> pain and muscle damage (permanent??), unable to eat, colon shut

down,

> hospitalization w/morphine 8 days

> Fluid build-up and draining on a regular weekly basis

> 11/09/04 on 5FU/Leu/Oxaliplatin/Avastin " cocktails " 46 hr.

infusions

> TRYING TO KICK BUTT with this darn disease!!!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kaye

Thanks so much for answering my question!

I don't write a lot in here,but try to keep up reading,I never know

what to say with out putting my foot in mouth!! lol

Kind of relieves the anxiety of hearing from some one that the

Erbitux may not be as bad as the cpt11 is! I think they will give it

alone to him also.

I wrote the Benadryl cream down & going to keep it handy for when he

starts that treatment. Only one more of the Cpt11 hopefully. His eyes

are so hollow and lost 4 pounds this week after taking that first

treatment of it. Knocked him for a loop!

It sounds as if the Erbitux has really kicked that CEA level down of

yours, so glad for you!

I am going to tell Galen about you taking it, it will ease him also

knowing that you are able to tolerate it without a lot of side

effects. He didn't have to many problems with the Avastin when he was

only taking it , but the dr. thought it was time to change.

A Big Thank You again & Take Care

Liz

wife of galen stg 4

> > Hope I can help....Yes, the sliding rule is when you test your

> blood sugar and if is a certain amount than you take a certain

amount

> of insulin...stress(((whatever that is)))))) makes sugar number

go

> higher too..I will be checking here to find what I can on the

> meds...does he have a dr. for diabeties?? both of my drs. worked

> together..my oncologist was not as aware of the meds as my

diabeties

> dr.....Your husband can have dizziness, shakes, times of just

feeling

> like crap, and that is mostly from diabeties ..and the meds

making it

> go so high..that is dangerous...sugar numbers that high can give

you

> yeast infections under the arms,etc....so if he itches that can

be

> from that...hugs,kaye...........yes, hang in there with him...I

have

> been doing this for over 5 years at stage IV..so we just have to

stay

> positive and look for answers..and you have a hard job

too......my

> husband had stage 2 colon cancer almost 18 years ago..he is fine

and

> still going strong....no problems but taking care of me

> now...hugs,kaye

> > Re: Unhappy

situation.....scared

> the man.- Kaye

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 2/12/2005 1:34:03 PM Eastern Standard

Time,

> > kayeskuts@i... writes:

> >

> > Decadron for sure !! my sugar numbers were up over

700..very

> bad as you

> > know..had to have 2 pills a day and 5 and sometimes 6 shots

a

> day....steroids

> > make sugar go up...it did not matter what I ate it would go

up

> for about 3 days

> > after treatments...

> > sometimes I feel I am butting in if someone has a name in

front

> to

> > someone...but I would rather be told to butt out than set

here

> and might be able to

> > help..you know what I mean...I do not know anything about

the

> other

> > medicine..but do know about decadron..I am now on erbitux

alone

> and doing good...also

> > the oxaliplatin is given in a bag of glucose...it will not

work

> with

> > saline...and you know what glucose is.....don't mean to alarm

> you but maybe need to

> > push the subject with the dr. more...some oncologist do not

> know, but diabeties

> > drs.do...I was put on what they call a sliding rule with

> insulin.....hope

> > this helps...hugs, keep me posted..love ,kaye biggs

> >

> >

> >

> > Kaye...it certainly does help...and gives me something to go

on

> when we see

> > the Onc on the 23rd. I may call him before that...actually

we

> called him on

> > Thurs. but he was out of town until Tues. The nerve of

> him...taking time

> > off!!! LOL

> >

> > I'm not all that familiar with the treatment of

> Diabetes...always left that

> > up to Glenn..which he never did!!! I need to do some

research,

> I guess.

> > What is a sliding rule with the insulin?? Where you take so

> much and then test

> > again and if it's still high, take another dose?? That's

> basically what dr.

> > told Glenn to do to get it down to at least 150.

> >

> > Not alarmed, Kaye, but enlightened....and thank you so much

for

> butting

> > in!!! LOL

> > This guy is NOT an easy patient to deal with, but I'm

trying. I

> would hate

> > like heck for something to happen to him, b/c of b/s...when

he's

> going

> > through all this other crap with the Cancer and

treatments!!!

> That would just be

> > unforgivable on my part...his, too!!! Anything else you

think

> of to help me

> > understand the monitoring and treatment of the Diabetes, I

will

> appreciate. I

> > don't think he understands all that well either.

> >

> > Lots of hugs and prayers, Donelle

> > Caregiver to Glenn

> >

> >

> > Colon resection 6/03, open wound for 2 months, chemo for 8

months

> > Mets to Liver found 4/04, inoperable; one tumor too close to

> artery and vein

> > Chemo infiltration to chest 8/04 with severe side effects

> including severe

> > pain and muscle damage (permanent??), unable to eat, colon

shut

> down,

> > hospitalization w/morphine 8 days

> > Fluid build-up and draining on a regular weekly basis

> > 11/09/04 on 5FU/Leu/Oxaliplatin/Avastin " cocktails " 46 hr.

> infusions

> > TRYING TO KICK BUTT with this darn disease!!!

> >

> >

> >