Guest guest Posted June 29, 2001 Report Share Posted June 29, 2001 Absolute bullshit, and you know it! At OG conferences, in the 1930s, Buchman sometimes displayed flags of the nations. He NEVER allowed the flag of the USSR to be displayed (Nazi Germany's and Fascist Italy's were displayed). Name TWO Oxford Groupers who became 'communists.' NAME ONE! Once again, 'more revealed'. . . . You want to MINIMIZE the problem, criticize ONLY AA, as merely a right-wing Christian religion. That way, you don't have to see the truth about AA's links to the system. What you don't want is any critique that is too radical, too unacceptable, and that would get in the way of your greedy little yuppie climb. > > > > > >> OK. After you have the video tape, what are you going to do with > > >> it? Do you really think politicians and the media don't KNOW this is > > >> happening? > > >> > > >> What is your theory: 'We shall get the video tape, and the video > > >> tape will make us free'? > > >> > > >> Naive in the extreme. Political power does NOT grow out of the > > >> barrel of a VCR. > > >> > > > > > >, > > > > > >What would you have us do? Blow up a federal building? Blow up all the > > >federal buildings and put you in charge? Just what are your _solutions_? > > > > > >Ken > > > > It looks to me like his solution (to how to spread his political > > beliefs) is to troll this list. Does he actually believe (in the Re: > > thread) AA is spiritual, not religious, and is compatible with > > Judaism? > > ---------- > > http://listen.to/benbradley > > > > Ben, > > He has good historical precedent. Many Buchmanites who defected ended up > joining the similar (totalitarian, solve all the worlds problems) Communism. > However, Communisim then was " shiny and new. " I don't like his chances now. > > I think what he believes with " AA is compatible with Judaism " is that making > the statement will favor his ends. Everyone is suspect, everyone is aligned > with evil, except for him who holds the secret, and it is a secret, just what > he would do to make things right. Judging by his total denial of the value of > the individual, I can't see how his solution would be any less than a > nightmare for everyone. > > Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2001 Report Share Posted June 29, 2001 Once again, 'more revealed'. . . . You want to MINIMIZE the problem, criticize ONLY AA, as merely a right-wing Christian religion. That way, you don't have to see the truth about AA's links to the system. What you don't want is any critique that is too radical, too unacceptable, and that would get in the way of your greedy little yuppie climb. You are sheerly deranged. It is my view that the ongoing abuse and rabid vituperation you direct at Rita, Ken, and anyone else who does not accept your bizarre rants, has exceeded the level justifying your expulsion from this list. That is Ken's call, of course, but he would have my support if that is how he opted to proceed. --Mona-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2001 Report Share Posted June 29, 2001 ernst17us@... wrote: > Absolute bullshit, and you know it! > > At OG conferences, in the 1930s, Buchman sometimes displayed flags > of the nations. He NEVER allowed the flag of the USSR to be > displayed (Nazi Germany's and Fascist Italy's were displayed). > > Name TWO Oxford Groupers who became 'communists.' NAME ONE! > > Once again, 'more revealed'. . . . You want to MINIMIZE the > problem, criticize ONLY AA, as merely a right-wing Christian > religion. That way, you don't have to see the truth about AA's links > to the system. What you don't want is any critique that is too > radical, too unacceptable, and that would get in the way of your > greedy little yuppie climb. > > , I suggest you don't try to start your own psychic network. You are an absolutle failure at mind reading. Moreover, it seems you are a failure at just plain reading. Not at all surprising that Buchman wouldn't allow the Soviet flag to be flown. Buchman _hated_ the communists, and probably most of all because he is supposed to have lost many of his disillusioned " world peace proponents " to the communists. Check " On the Tail of a Comet " by Garth Lean. Both groups, the Communists and Buchmanites were dictatorial groups that held themselves up as having all the answers. It wasn't much of a switch for a disillusioned young (authoritarian) idealist to jump from one to the other. As far as your last paragraph, I can see you and I at Troy. I'm shouting, don't bring the wooden horse in and you are calling me an ignorant fool because I'm warning of the " trivial " horse because you have the delusion you are the only one aware of the armies outside the gates -- " Why you capitalist lackey. The truth of the armies are too much for you to bear. " And the last half of the paragraph above, I'm not young. Strange for someone off on vacation and living largely off of government largesse to call someone who _barely_ ekes out a living greedy. Ken Ragge > > > > > > > > > >> OK. After you have the video tape, what are you going to do > with > > > >> it? Do you really think politicians and the media don't KNOW > this is > > > >> happening? > > > >> > > > >> What is your theory: 'We shall get the video tape, and the > video > > > >> tape will make us free'? > > > >> > > > >> Naive in the extreme. Political power does NOT grow out of > the > > > >> barrel of a VCR. > > > >> > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > >What would you have us do? Blow up a federal building? Blow up > all the > > > >federal buildings and put you in charge? Just what are your > _solutions_? > > > > > > > >Ken > > > > > > It looks to me like his solution (to how to spread his > political > > > beliefs) is to troll this list. Does he actually believe (in the > Re: > > > thread) AA is spiritual, not religious, and is compatible > with > > > Judaism? > > > ---------- > > > http://listen.to/benbradley > > > > > > > Ben, > > > > He has good historical precedent. Many Buchmanites who defected > ended up > > joining the similar (totalitarian, solve all the worlds problems) > Communism. > > However, Communisim then was " shiny and new. " I don't like his > chances now. > > > > I think what he believes with " AA is compatible with Judaism " is > that making > > the statement will favor his ends. Everyone is suspect, everyone > is aligned > > with evil, except for him who holds the secret, and it is a secret, > just what > > he would do to make things right. Judging by his total denial of > the value of > > the individual, I can't see how his solution would be any less than > a > > nightmare for everyone. > > > > Ken > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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