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Why would the South Beach Diet have/back food with their name and logo if it is not SBD friendly?

Heck, even the ones that arelabeled with the SBD logo aren't SBD friendly. ;-)

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Because Kraft Foods paid Dr. Agatston big money to get the SBD "brand" on their label.

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Why would the South Beach Diet have/back food with their name and logo if it is not SBD friendly?

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I did read the labels and everything i have found so far goes with the dietNoctaire wrote:

> Why would the South Beach Diet have/back food with their> name and logo if it is not SBD friendly?$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$Read the labels -- they do not conform to the original basis of the WOE.

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> I did read the labels and everything i have found so far

> goes with the diet

Hmmmmm...may I suggest you read them again?

The original premise of the SBD, and why it works so well, is that it

encourages the consumption of fresh, wholesome foods. That means foods

without all the added junk that the food industry puts in products. One of

the biggest buzzes in the SBD is added sugar. If there's one thing the book

and literature emphasizes over and over, it's to stay away from added sugar.

Second to that is enriched flour followed very closely by saturated fat.

Throughout the literature, LOW fat is also strongly encouraged and FAT-FREE

even crops up from time to time. The only standard that isn't flying in the

SBD camp is low sodium (which makes no sense since this was supposed to be a

heart healthy diet -- go figure).

Let's look at the ingredient label from some of the new products....

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One of the frozen entrees -- Beef with Asian Style Noodles (Phase 2/3)....

FULLY COOKED SEASONED ROASTED BEEF SIRLOIN STEAK STRIPS AND BINDER PRODUCT,

SMOKE FLAVOR ADDED (BEEF, WATER, AND LESS THAN 2% DEXTROSE, MODIFIED FOOD

STARCH, SOY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, SALT, POTASSIUM CHLORIDE, POTASSIUM

PHOSPHATES, CORN SYRUP SOLIDS, FLAVOR, AUTOLYZED YEAST EXTRACT, BEEF FAT,

BEEF EXTRACT, GRILL FLAVOR [FROM SUNFLOWER OIL], SUCCINIC ACID,

MALTODEXTRIN, SMOKE FLAVOR, SPICE EXTRACTIVES), BROCCOLI, COOKED PASTA

(WATER, WHOLE WHEAT FLOUR, MODIFIED WHEAT STARCH, WHEAT GLUTEN, WHEAT

PROTEIN ISOLATE, MONOGLYCERIDES, MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, SOYBEAN OIL, XANTHAN

GUM, ENZYMES), WATER, CARROTS, SOY SAUCE (WATER, SOYBEANS, WHEAT, SALT,

LACTIC ACID), SOYBEANS, HOISIN SAUCE (SUGAR, WATER, SWEET POTATO, SALT,

MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, SOYBEANS, SPICE, SESAME SEEDS, WHEAT FLOUR, GARLIC,

CHILI PEPPERS, ACETIC ACID), CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF ROASTED PEANUTS,

OYSTER FLAVORED SAUCE (WATER, SUGAR, SALT, OYSTER EXTRACT, MODIFIED FOOD

STARCH, CARAMEL COLOR), GINGER PUREE (GINGER, WATER, CITRIC ACID), SOYBEAN

OIL, MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, CHICKEN STOCK, ROASTED GARLIC PUREE (ROASTED

CRUSHED GARLIC, OLIVE OIL), SESAME OIL, RICE WINE (WATER, RICE, DEXTROSE,

CORN SYRUP SOLIDS, SALT), DRIED GARLIC, SALT, RICE VINEGAR, AUTOLYZED YEAST

EXTRACT, GUAR GUM, SPICE, TAPIOCA DEXTRIN, FLAVOR, RICE BRAN OIL, CANOLA

OIL, PEANUT OIL, LACTIC ACID.

Calories.......... 320

Fat............... 13g

Cholesterol....... 45mg

Sodium............ 1050mg

Carbohydrates..... 32g

Fiber............. 9g

Sugar............. 8g

Protein........... 30g

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How about a cereal bar....

Ingredients: SOY NUGGETS (SOY PROTEIN ISOLATE, TAPIOCA STARCH, SALT), SUGAR,

MALTITOL SYRUP, FRACTIONATED PALM KERNEL OIL, SOY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE,

ROASTED SOY NUTS, CORN SYRUP, OLIGOFRUCTOSE (FOR FIBER), EVAPORATED CANE

JUICE INVERT SYRUP, SUNFLOWER OIL, MALTITOL, BROWN RICE SYRUP, COCOA

(PROCESSED WITH ALKALI), NONFAT MILK, MILK PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, COCOA,

CALCIUM CASEINATE, CALCIUM CARBONATE, TRICALCIUM PHOSPHATE, LACTOSE, SALT,

SOY LECITHIN, BUTTER [CREAM, ANNATTO (COLOR), SALT], DEXTROSE, WHEY, NATURAL

FLAVOR, PALM OIL, CITRIC ACID, MONO- AND DIGLYCERIDES, ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR,

COCOA BUTTER, CARAMEL COLOR, FERRIC PHOSPHATE (SOURCE OF IRON), NIACINAMIDE,

SUCRALOSE (SWEETENER), ZINC OXIDE (SOURCE OF ZINC), MAGNESIUM CARBONATE,

VITAMIN B6, VITAMIN A PALMITATE, RIBOFLAVIN (VITAMIN B2), THIAMIN

MONONITRATE VITAMIN B1),VITAMIN B12.

Calories.......... 140

Fat............... 5g

Cholesterol....... 0mg

Sodium............ 150mg

Carbohydrates..... 15g

Fiber............. 3g

Sugar............. 7g

Protein........... 10g

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A southwestern style chicken wrap....

Ingredients: COOKED CHICKEN BREAST WITH RIB MEAT COATED WITH SOUTHWESTERN

SEASONING - CHICKEN BREAST WITH RIB MEAT, WATER, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF

SODIUM LACTATE, SALT, CHICKEN FLAVOR (CONTAINS CHICKEN BROTH, SALT, WHEAT

STARCH, THIAMINE HYDROCHLORIDE, FLAVOR), POTASSIUM LACTATE, DEXTROSE,

SOUTHWESTERN FLAVOR (FLAVOR, SALT), SODIUM PHOSPHATES, SODIUM DIACETATE,

SOUTHWESTERN SEASONING (SPICES, SALT, GARLIC). SUGAR FREE STRAWBERRY GELATIN

- ARTIFICIALLY FLAVORED - WATER, GELATIN, ADIPIC ACID (FOR TARTNESS), SODIUM

CITRATE (CONTROLS ACIDITY), CITRIC ACID (FOR TARTNESS), ASPARTAME** AND

ACESULFAME POTASSIUM (SWEETENERS), SALT, RED 40, ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR.

**PHENYLKETONURICS: CONTAINS PHENYLALANINE. WHOLE WHEAT TORTILLAS - WATER,

MODIFIED WHEAT STARCH, WHOLE WHEAT FLOUR, CELLULOSE POWDER, PALM OIL, VITAL

WHEAT GLUTEN, WHEAT PROTEIN ISOLATE, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF SALT,

LEAVENING (SODIUM BICARBONATE, SODIUM ACID PYROPHOSPHATE), CELLULOSE GUM,

DISTILLED MONOGLYCERIDES, WHEAT STARCH, ALPHA AMYLASE, PRESERVATIVES

(CALCIUM PROPIONATE, SORBIC ACID, FUMARIC ACID, SODIUM METABISULFITE),

VEGETABLE OIL (SOYBEAN AND/OR CANOLA OILS), TRIGLYCERIDES, ARTIFICIAL

FLAVOR, CARAMEL COLOR, SUCRALOSE. GARDEN SALSA - WATER, TOMATO PASTE, GREEN

CHILI PEPPERS, VINEGAR, DRIED ONIONS, SALT, FOOD STARCH-MODIFIED, JALAPENO

PEPPERS, GREEN BELL PEPPERS, SUGAR, GARLIC POWDER, SODIUM BENZOATE AND

POTASSIUM SORBATE AS PRESERVATIVES, CITRIC ACID, SPICE. 2% MILK REDUCED FAT

NATURAL CHEDDAR CHEESE SHREDS - REDUCED FAT CHEDDAR CHEESE (PASTEURIZED

PART-SKIM MILK, CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES, ANNATTO , VITAMIN A

PALMITATE), CELLULOSE POWDER (ANTICAKING AGENT), NATAMYCIN (PRESERVATIVE).

Calories.......... 240

Fat............... 10g

Cholesterol....... 55mg

Sodium............ 1360mg

Carbohydrates..... 26g

Fiber............. 15g

Sugar............. 2g

Protein........... 26g

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A deluxe pizza....

Ingredients: WATER, WHOLE WHEAT FLOUR, SHREDDED NONFAT MOZZARELLA CHEESE

(SKIM MILK, VINEGAR, SALT, XANTHAN GUM [NOT NORMALLY FOUND IN MOZZARELLA

CHEESE], ENZYMES, VITAMIN A PALMITATE), TOMATO PASTE, SHREDDED LOW-MOISTURE

PART-SKIM MOZZARELLA CHEESE (PART-SKIM MILK, CHEESE CULTURE, SALT, ENZYMES),

COOKED CHICKEN PIZZA TOPPING (WHITE CHICKEN MEAT, WATER, TEXTURED SOY

PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, SPICES, SALT, SUGAR, GARLIC POWDER, COOKED IN PORK FAT

OR VEGETABLE OIL), WHEAT GLUTEN, MODIFIED WHEAT STARCH, MILK PROTEIN

CONCENTRATE, PEPPERONI (PORK, BEEF, SALT, SPICES, DEXTROSE, LACTIC ACID

STARTER CULTURE, OLEORESIN OF PAPRIKA, FLAVORING, SODIUM ASCORBATE, NATURAL

SMOKE FLAVOR, SODIUM NITRITE, BHA, BHT, CITRIC ACID), ROASTED GREEN BELL

PEPPER, ROASTED RED BELL PEPPER, ONIONS, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF ROASTED

YELLOW BELL PEPPER, SOYBEAN OIL, CELLULOSE POWDER, BLEACHED WHEAT FLOUR,

YEAST, SALT, SPICE, SUGAR, DRIED GARLIC, SODIUM BICARBONATE, SODIUM ALUMINUM

PHOSPHATE, DATEM, CITRIC ACID, ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR, ASCORBIC ACID, SUCRALOSE

(SWEETENER), FLAVOR.

Calories.......... 280

Fat............... 8g

Cholesterol....... 25mg

Sodium............ 1080mg

Carbohydrates..... 34g

Fiber............. 14g

Sugar............. 6g

Protein........... 29g

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Oatmeal Chocolate Chip snacks....

Ingredients: WHOLE GRAIN WHEAT FLOUR, HIGH OLEIC CANOLA OIL, MALTITOL,

SEMISWEET CHOCOLATE CHIPS (SUGAR, CHOCOLATE, COCOA BUTTER, DEXTROSE, SOY

LECITHIN-AN EMULSIFIER, MILK), SUGAR, OATMEAL, CORNSTARCH, SEMI-SWEET

CHOCOLATE CHUNKS (CHOCOLATE, SUGAR, DEXTROSE, COCOA BUTTER, SOY LECITHIN-AN

EMULSIFIER, VANILLA, MILK), POLYDEXTROSE, RAISIN PASTE, BROWN RICE SYRUP,

LEAVENING (BAKING SODA, CALCIUM PHOSPHATE), NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR,

SALT, CINNAMON, CARAMEL COLOR, ACESULFAME POTASSIUM (SWEETENER), SUCRALOSE

(SWEETENER).

Servings.......... *6*

Calories.......... 100

Fat............... 5g

Cholesterol....... 0mg

Sodium............ 90mg

Carbohydrates..... 16g

Fiber............. 3g

Sugar............. 4g

Protein........... 1g

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1) They're high on sodium. Remember -- the USRDA is 2,400mg and that's

already high. One of these frozen dinners has 1,000mg or more all by its

lonesome as do the pizzas.

2) They're jammed packed with preservatives and other synthetic additives --

a trademark of processed foods.

3) They have fiber but the amounts are not consistent with what's actually

IN the meals. In other words, they've been " enriched " .

4) The portions are small. That means one will not be enough to fill-up the

average person, let alone the average dieter who commonly overeats, and

since the SBD says to eat until you're full....

5) All of the products have added sugar in some form or another.

Two other things worthy of note -- for the duration, Agatston has said that

the Atkins product line was no good and SBDers should stay away from them.

However, the Atkins morning bar is more SBD friendly than the SBD breakfast

bar which, BTW, was already on the market long before SBD but under a

different product name. That's the second thing worthy of note -- the

breakfast bars were previously not allowed when they were the other product

but now all of a sudden they're a-ok since they have a new wrapper, name,

and logo...?

When you compare the SBD meals with other " diet " meals on the market (like

Lean Cuisine, Healthy Choice, etc) there's very little difference. Again,

these pre-packaged meals have always been strongly discouraged on the SBD.

Agatston has been question about putting his moniker on this product line

and he defends his position saying that he wants to reach out to as many

folks as he can and this will help him reach out to even more people than

ever. (Duh -- that means more customers and more $$$ for him.) Eventually,

he started saying that these foods should NOT be used as staples in the diet

but rather as an " on occasion " sort of thing for when you're on the go,

forgot to make something up the night before, and just have to grab

something quick.

The problem is that this will be the case with most folks most of the time.

You can see just from the messages on groups like this one -- everyone is

too busy for prepping, cooking, and so forth. It's the nature of our

society -- we run at mach 10 and meals have become an inconvenience that we

push off to spend as little time on as is possible. Well, good nutrition

just doesn't come with convenience. It takes a little time investment to

eat healthy.

Like I've said before -- good nutrition just doesn't come in a box or can.

A lot of folks really like the convenience of these products and they're

being used. There are some who use them daily -- I've seen folks on the

groups talk about eating the breakfast bars every morning, the snack bars

each day, and/or the meals on a daily basis (usually for lunch). The topic

is a hotly debated one on the groups and forums. That doesn't change the

fact that they are not SBD friendly nor are they healthy. That's why I'll

always recommend against using them.

Take it FWIW. We all do what we feel is best and to each his/her own.

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