New member

[Guest guest]

Welcome Deanna, I am so sorry to hear about your loss and I much

like you am willing to let nature take its course. It took several

years and lots of fertility treatments to get pregnant with my DD

pre-op and post-op I still had to take clomid to O properly. We

were able to concieve much sooner post-op but had already decided

that if something should happen to the baby we would just let G_d

work out his plan and let nature takes its course. I am wishing you

lots of BABY DUST*~*~*~ hoping to hear of your new miracle in

another few months.

Christy in VA

> Hi I am Deanna and 11 months post op from open rny. I am not

> currently pregnant but am thinking about having a baby soon

anyways,

> a few weeks ago I found out I was pregnant and was shocked since I

> have never been pregnant and couldnt get pregnant and been married

> for 14+ yrs & with my husband for over 15 yrs. We even did

fertility

> treatments of course because of my weight problem i couldnt

> conceive. Well surprise I did but unfortunatly I lost the baby I

> didnt know I was pregnant till I was in the process of losing my

baby

> but the pain is still there. before all this I was very adament

on

> waiting and using protection and making sure I didnt get pregant

(the

> protection didnt work) now since i lost my baby all i can think

about

> is weather i should let nature takes its course and see if i get

> pregnant again without using protection? what are your

suggestions?

> my dr told me to wait 3-4 months to let my body heal from the loss

> but after having been told i was pregnant and losing my baby i

just

> want to have a baby now. I also want to get to goal I am 20 pnds

> from goal but then a part of me dosnt want to wait i have waited

over

> 15 yrs ... what is ur insite please? thanx Deanna

>

> http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=W986639881

>

> my profile on obesityhelp.com

[Guest guest]

Welcome Deanna, I am so sorry to hear about your loss and I much

like you am willing to let nature take its course. It took several

years and lots of fertility treatments to get pregnant with my DD

pre-op and post-op I still had to take clomid to O properly. We

were able to concieve much sooner post-op but had already decided

that if something should happen to the baby we would just let G_d

work out his plan and let nature takes its course. I am wishing you

lots of BABY DUST*~*~*~ hoping to hear of your new miracle in

another few months.

Christy in VA

> Hi I am Deanna and 11 months post op from open rny. I am not

> currently pregnant but am thinking about having a baby soon

anyways,

> a few weeks ago I found out I was pregnant and was shocked since I

> have never been pregnant and couldnt get pregnant and been married

> for 14+ yrs & with my husband for over 15 yrs. We even did

fertility

> treatments of course because of my weight problem i couldnt

> conceive. Well surprise I did but unfortunatly I lost the baby I

> didnt know I was pregnant till I was in the process of losing my

baby

> but the pain is still there. before all this I was very adament

on

> waiting and using protection and making sure I didnt get pregant

(the

> protection didnt work) now since i lost my baby all i can think

about

> is weather i should let nature takes its course and see if i get

> pregnant again without using protection? what are your

suggestions?

> my dr told me to wait 3-4 months to let my body heal from the loss

> but after having been told i was pregnant and losing my baby i

just

> want to have a baby now. I also want to get to goal I am 20 pnds

> from goal but then a part of me dosnt want to wait i have waited

over

> 15 yrs ... what is ur insite please? thanx Deanna

>

> http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=W986639881

>

> my profile on obesityhelp.com

[Guest guest]

Welcome Deanna, I am so sorry to hear about your loss and I much

like you am willing to let nature take its course. It took several

years and lots of fertility treatments to get pregnant with my DD

pre-op and post-op I still had to take clomid to O properly. We

were able to concieve much sooner post-op but had already decided

that if something should happen to the baby we would just let G_d

work out his plan and let nature takes its course. I am wishing you

lots of BABY DUST*~*~*~ hoping to hear of your new miracle in

another few months.

Christy in VA

> Hi I am Deanna and 11 months post op from open rny. I am not

> currently pregnant but am thinking about having a baby soon

anyways,

> a few weeks ago I found out I was pregnant and was shocked since I

> have never been pregnant and couldnt get pregnant and been married

> for 14+ yrs & with my husband for over 15 yrs. We even did

fertility

> treatments of course because of my weight problem i couldnt

> conceive. Well surprise I did but unfortunatly I lost the baby I

> didnt know I was pregnant till I was in the process of losing my

baby

> but the pain is still there. before all this I was very adament

on

> waiting and using protection and making sure I didnt get pregant

(the

> protection didnt work) now since i lost my baby all i can think

about

> is weather i should let nature takes its course and see if i get

> pregnant again without using protection? what are your

suggestions?

> my dr told me to wait 3-4 months to let my body heal from the loss

> but after having been told i was pregnant and losing my baby i

just

> want to have a baby now. I also want to get to goal I am 20 pnds

> from goal but then a part of me dosnt want to wait i have waited

over

> 15 yrs ... what is ur insite please? thanx Deanna

>

> http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=W986639881

>

> my profile on obesityhelp.com

[Guest guest]

Deanna,

I have been quiet for a while on this group. I suffered for 11 years with

infertility and had resolved it in my heart and head that I would never have a

child. Well..as surprises have it, five days before my 43rd birthday this year

I found out I was 5 weeks pregnant. I lost this baby on Easter Sunday. I

became pregnant again in May because I didn't listen to my doctor and lost it at

5 weeks. Due to the nature of the loss and the fact that it was a natural loss,

they didn't put restrictions on me. I got pregnant again right away. Two days

before my wedding in August I was diagnosed with a blighted ovum and I lost it

the following week. My heart aches continually and I live daily with the

anxiety of losing three babies and the fear of becoming pregnant again with the

fear of losing it again. Listen to your doctor. Your body has to have time to

heal or you will go through the same agony that I have gone through and it's not

a pleasant journey.

We are trying again and I will know in about two weeks if we were successful

this time or not. It has been since the middle of August and the doctors have

said that I can try again.

You have waited a long time to get your life together with a body you can live

with. I don't know what your age is but if its like mine and you are

approaching the infertility range, a couple of months will not make a

difference. You have proven that you can conceive. Let your mind settle down

and accept what is going on in your system. Don't do what I did and put

yourself through unnecessary agony.

Just my opinion but you did ask My prayers are with you.

Debbie Burt Bradley

www.queencityu.com

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/queencityu/

Hi I am Deanna and 11 months post op from open rny. I am not

currently pregnant but am thinking about having a baby soon anyways,

a few weeks ago I found out I was pregnant and was shocked since I

have never been pregnant and couldnt get pregnant and been married

for 14+ yrs & with my husband for over 15 yrs.

[Guest guest]

Deanna,

I have been quiet for a while on this group. I suffered for 11 years with

infertility and had resolved it in my heart and head that I would never have a

child. Well..as surprises have it, five days before my 43rd birthday this year

I found out I was 5 weeks pregnant. I lost this baby on Easter Sunday. I

became pregnant again in May because I didn't listen to my doctor and lost it at

5 weeks. Due to the nature of the loss and the fact that it was a natural loss,

they didn't put restrictions on me. I got pregnant again right away. Two days

before my wedding in August I was diagnosed with a blighted ovum and I lost it

the following week. My heart aches continually and I live daily with the

anxiety of losing three babies and the fear of becoming pregnant again with the

fear of losing it again. Listen to your doctor. Your body has to have time to

heal or you will go through the same agony that I have gone through and it's not

a pleasant journey.

We are trying again and I will know in about two weeks if we were successful

this time or not. It has been since the middle of August and the doctors have

said that I can try again.

You have waited a long time to get your life together with a body you can live

with. I don't know what your age is but if its like mine and you are

approaching the infertility range, a couple of months will not make a

difference. You have proven that you can conceive. Let your mind settle down

and accept what is going on in your system. Don't do what I did and put

yourself through unnecessary agony.

Just my opinion but you did ask My prayers are with you.

Debbie Burt Bradley

www.queencityu.com

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/queencityu/

Hi I am Deanna and 11 months post op from open rny. I am not

currently pregnant but am thinking about having a baby soon anyways,

a few weeks ago I found out I was pregnant and was shocked since I

have never been pregnant and couldnt get pregnant and been married

for 14+ yrs & with my husband for over 15 yrs.

[Guest guest]

Deanna,

I have been quiet for a while on this group. I suffered for 11 years with

infertility and had resolved it in my heart and head that I would never have a

child. Well..as surprises have it, five days before my 43rd birthday this year

I found out I was 5 weeks pregnant. I lost this baby on Easter Sunday. I

became pregnant again in May because I didn't listen to my doctor and lost it at

5 weeks. Due to the nature of the loss and the fact that it was a natural loss,

they didn't put restrictions on me. I got pregnant again right away. Two days

before my wedding in August I was diagnosed with a blighted ovum and I lost it

the following week. My heart aches continually and I live daily with the

anxiety of losing three babies and the fear of becoming pregnant again with the

fear of losing it again. Listen to your doctor. Your body has to have time to

heal or you will go through the same agony that I have gone through and it's not

a pleasant journey.

We are trying again and I will know in about two weeks if we were successful

this time or not. It has been since the middle of August and the doctors have

said that I can try again.

You have waited a long time to get your life together with a body you can live

with. I don't know what your age is but if its like mine and you are

approaching the infertility range, a couple of months will not make a

difference. You have proven that you can conceive. Let your mind settle down

and accept what is going on in your system. Don't do what I did and put

yourself through unnecessary agony.

Just my opinion but you did ask My prayers are with you.

Debbie Burt Bradley

www.queencityu.com

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/queencityu/

Hi I am Deanna and 11 months post op from open rny. I am not

currently pregnant but am thinking about having a baby soon anyways,

a few weeks ago I found out I was pregnant and was shocked since I

have never been pregnant and couldnt get pregnant and been married

for 14+ yrs & with my husband for over 15 yrs.

[Guest guest]

Hi Annmarie,

Welcome and congrats on your pregnancy. If you read the post I just sent to

another one of the newly pregnant mommies, I feel that it is entirely possible

and probable to have a healthy, happy pregnancy even if you are so soon out of

surgery. Keep happy thoughts, talk to your doctors, get in your vitamins, and

you and baby should be just fine. Good luck!

Marcy

new member

Hi All,

My name is Annmarie. I had an open roux en y on July 9th of this

year. So I'm almost 5 months out. I just found out yesterday that I

am pregnant. I'm not sure how I feel about this yet, my husband is

especially worried about the fact that I had my surgery so recently.

We are both pretty worried. I was hoping some of you might have some

encouraging words and advice for me.

Thanks,

Annmarie

[Guest guest]

Hi Annmarie,

Welcome and congrats on your pregnancy. If you read the post I just sent to

another one of the newly pregnant mommies, I feel that it is entirely possible

and probable to have a healthy, happy pregnancy even if you are so soon out of

surgery. Keep happy thoughts, talk to your doctors, get in your vitamins, and

you and baby should be just fine. Good luck!

Marcy

new member

Hi All,

My name is Annmarie. I had an open roux en y on July 9th of this

year. So I'm almost 5 months out. I just found out yesterday that I

am pregnant. I'm not sure how I feel about this yet, my husband is

especially worried about the fact that I had my surgery so recently.

We are both pretty worried. I was hoping some of you might have some

encouraging words and advice for me.

Thanks,

Annmarie

[Guest guest]

Hi Annmarie,

Welcome and congrats on your pregnancy. If you read the post I just sent to

another one of the newly pregnant mommies, I feel that it is entirely possible

and probable to have a healthy, happy pregnancy even if you are so soon out of

surgery. Keep happy thoughts, talk to your doctors, get in your vitamins, and

you and baby should be just fine. Good luck!

Marcy

new member

Hi All,

My name is Annmarie. I had an open roux en y on July 9th of this

year. So I'm almost 5 months out. I just found out yesterday that I

am pregnant. I'm not sure how I feel about this yet, my husband is

especially worried about the fact that I had my surgery so recently.

We are both pretty worried. I was hoping some of you might have some

encouraging words and advice for me.

Thanks,

Annmarie

[Guest guest]

Hi Annmarie,

my name is Petra and I had the open RNY on May 13, 2002. I got

pregnant about 8 weeks later. I am now 19 weeks and 3 days and

healthy as I can be. My lab work has never looked better. I, too, was

worried in the beginning, but after getting all the info from all the

great ladies here, as well as having a great support group here in my

town I am looking forward of becoming a bit " bigger " again.

I still have been losing weight, but my docs are not too concerned if

I don't loose it too fast. They said that it will even out with the

Baby's weight...I take 2 Flintstones a day (cannot do prenatal and 2

tums - can also not tolerate milk products very well since I have

become pregnant...LOL).

Don't worry too much...go with the flow...everything will be

fine...Ask your doctor a lot of questions - if you have to - write

them down so you don't forget.

Hugs,

Petra

> Hi All,

> My name is Annmarie. I had an open roux en y on July 9th of this

> year. So I'm almost 5 months out. I just found out yesterday that

I

> am pregnant. I'm not sure how I feel about this yet, my husband is

> especially worried about the fact that I had my surgery so

recently.

> We are both pretty worried. I was hoping some of you might have

some

> encouraging words and advice for me.

> Thanks,

> Annmarie

[Guest guest]

Hi Annmarie,

my name is Petra and I had the open RNY on May 13, 2002. I got

pregnant about 8 weeks later. I am now 19 weeks and 3 days and

healthy as I can be. My lab work has never looked better. I, too, was

worried in the beginning, but after getting all the info from all the

great ladies here, as well as having a great support group here in my

town I am looking forward of becoming a bit " bigger " again.

I still have been losing weight, but my docs are not too concerned if

I don't loose it too fast. They said that it will even out with the

Baby's weight...I take 2 Flintstones a day (cannot do prenatal and 2

tums - can also not tolerate milk products very well since I have

become pregnant...LOL).

Don't worry too much...go with the flow...everything will be

fine...Ask your doctor a lot of questions - if you have to - write

them down so you don't forget.

Hugs,

Petra

> Hi All,

> My name is Annmarie. I had an open roux en y on July 9th of this

> year. So I'm almost 5 months out. I just found out yesterday that

I

> am pregnant. I'm not sure how I feel about this yet, my husband is

> especially worried about the fact that I had my surgery so

recently.

> We are both pretty worried. I was hoping some of you might have

some

> encouraging words and advice for me.

> Thanks,

> Annmarie

[Guest guest]

Hi Jodi, I wanted to welcome you to our group, and congratulate you on your

surgery date. Yes pregnancy after surgery is not only possible, but what a

wonderful way to celebrate new life!!! (Yours AND a babies). If you have any

specific questions regarding pregnancy after surgery, feel free to ask. The

support here is wonderful, and I think you will enjoy that. Good luck to you,

and let us know how the surgery goes!!!

Marcy Wallis

lap rny 06/15/00

edd 12/08/02 (That would be TODAY)!!!

induction date 12/18/02 (MY bday, and only IF he doesnt come on his own by then)

Baby Boy!!!

Mom to a beautiful 8 yr old daughter (PRE WLS)

New member

I just became a member today. I am scheduled for a Gastric Bypass on

December 19,2002. I was married one year ago. My husband and myself

want children. I have decided to have surgery first then start my

family. I was very concerned about pregnancy post-op and this web

site was recomended to me. Any comments and advice will be greatly

appreciated.

Thank You,

Jodi

Children are a blessing, and a gift from the Lord. -Psalm 127:3

[Guest guest]

Hi Jodi, I wanted to welcome you to our group, and congratulate you on your

surgery date. Yes pregnancy after surgery is not only possible, but what a

wonderful way to celebrate new life!!! (Yours AND a babies). If you have any

specific questions regarding pregnancy after surgery, feel free to ask. The

support here is wonderful, and I think you will enjoy that. Good luck to you,

and let us know how the surgery goes!!!

Marcy Wallis

lap rny 06/15/00

edd 12/08/02 (That would be TODAY)!!!

induction date 12/18/02 (MY bday, and only IF he doesnt come on his own by then)

Baby Boy!!!

Mom to a beautiful 8 yr old daughter (PRE WLS)

New member

I just became a member today. I am scheduled for a Gastric Bypass on

December 19,2002. I was married one year ago. My husband and myself

want children. I have decided to have surgery first then start my

family. I was very concerned about pregnancy post-op and this web

site was recomended to me. Any comments and advice will be greatly

appreciated.

Thank You,

Jodi

Children are a blessing, and a gift from the Lord. -Psalm 127:3

[Guest guest]

Hi Jodi, I wanted to welcome you to our group, and congratulate you on your

surgery date. Yes pregnancy after surgery is not only possible, but what a

wonderful way to celebrate new life!!! (Yours AND a babies). If you have any

specific questions regarding pregnancy after surgery, feel free to ask. The

support here is wonderful, and I think you will enjoy that. Good luck to you,

and let us know how the surgery goes!!!

Marcy Wallis

lap rny 06/15/00

edd 12/08/02 (That would be TODAY)!!!

induction date 12/18/02 (MY bday, and only IF he doesnt come on his own by then)

Baby Boy!!!

Mom to a beautiful 8 yr old daughter (PRE WLS)

New member

I just became a member today. I am scheduled for a Gastric Bypass on

December 19,2002. I was married one year ago. My husband and myself

want children. I have decided to have surgery first then start my

family. I was very concerned about pregnancy post-op and this web

site was recomended to me. Any comments and advice will be greatly

appreciated.

Thank You,

Jodi

Children are a blessing, and a gift from the Lord. -Psalm 127:3

[Guest guest]

Hi barb,

Welcome to the group, glad you found us. Sorry though that you and your son

have mito. I've gotten alot of the same diagnosises as you though. I've been

diagnosed as having RA, sjogrens, fibro, and lupus and a few other

autoimmune/connective tissue diseases (they say its mixed connective tissue

disease now). I dont think i have any of them even though i have alot of the

symptoms of them. My mom also has an autoimmune disease- sarcoidosis and RA

and lupus are in my family. but also seems my family has alot of the symptoms

of mito so maybe we just have both genetically. we havent gotten the offical

diagnosis of mito but we have many of the symptoms- im the most symptomatic

with various things ranging from muscle weakness/pain, seizures, migraines,

stroke like episodes, hearing/vision problems, endocrine problems, gi

dysmotility, mild heart and lung probs, neuropathy, dysautonomia, and as a

child hypotonia, developmental delays and so many other probs now and as a

child, they just recently got worse past few yrs though. im on alot of meds

now- mainly for symptoms but also for the autoimmune things too. sounds like

your son is on the right cocktail and hope you get on one soon that works for

you. anyways, glad you found this group and i know you will make plenty of

friends, this is a great group! welcome aboard again!

take care,

adrienne

[Guest guest]

Welcome Karri!

She should be in the DBB for 3 months full time (23hrs). Is your doctor

following the Ponseti method?

Dessi (- bilateral CF 9-17-02)

new member

hello my name is Karri. my daugter who was born with clubfeet is

now

15 months old. she got her last set of casts off today. now she

is

wearing the dennis brown shoes . The doctor said she will have

to

wear them at night only for about 3 years.

[Guest guest]

Welcome Karri!

She should be in the DBB for 3 months full time (23hrs). Is your doctor

following the Ponseti method?

Dessi (- bilateral CF 9-17-02)

new member

hello my name is Karri. my daugter who was born with clubfeet is

now

15 months old. she got her last set of casts off today. now she

is

wearing the dennis brown shoes . The doctor said she will have

to

wear them at night only for about 3 years.

[Guest guest]

Welcome Karri!

She should be in the DBB for 3 months full time (23hrs). Is your doctor

following the Ponseti method?

Dessi (- bilateral CF 9-17-02)

new member

hello my name is Karri. my daugter who was born with clubfeet is

now

15 months old. she got her last set of casts off today. now she

is

wearing the dennis brown shoes . The doctor said she will have

to

wear them at night only for about 3 years.

[Guest guest]

,

I am glad you found us. I am sure that you will find many of us

with similar symptoms. Some have been diagnosed, some haven't. Even

with a confirmed diagnosis, there are still some questions with some

doctors. :-) This is a great group of people. Very caring and quite

knowledgeable.

Smiles,

a

Mitochondrial Cytopathy, COX IV Deficiency (1995) and possible complex I

and II.

[Guest guest]

Hi Carissa. I just wanted to welcome you and tell you that I'm and have 4 children with Mito as well as myself. I believe I know you from another list I used to be on a while back. It's a group about ADHD. Are you the same Carissa? Just curious because I do know your e-mail address from somewhere. Anyway, welcome. You've found a wonderful group here.

[Guest guest]

Hi Carissa,

Yes all four have it. Let's see... both of my girls are 12 and 13 and their issues are similar.... is severely developmentally delayed and works at about a 6 year old level. is the 12 year old and is the same. has muscle issues, reflux, and her developmental issues are thought to be caused by the disease. has the same issues with severe headaches and mitral valve prolapse and has issues on her MRI of the brain.

's ADHD is thought to probably have been caused by the Mito and he has some significant muscle weakness from time to time... although he really pushes himself even when he shouldn't....... he has reflux (from time to time), migraines etc. He's 10.

Branden my youngest is 5 almost 6. He has had multiple medical issues his whole life involving multiple infections such as ear, multiple respiratory etc.... has been failure to thrive and multiple other GI issues that have been somewhat brought into control but not resolved with surgery.

I'm sure I'm missing some things but that's a rough draft of it.

What are your kids issues??

Talk to you soon. I have to get to bed. Branden's having surgery in the morning and I have to get some sleep.

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

I'm sorry your Dad is so ill. Once he's home and feeling better I'm

sure there will be options for him. I did some research on Avastin

and Erbitux since my Mom is failing standard chemo treatments and

this is what I found. I contacted the FDA regarding Avastin as a 3rd

or 4th line treatment and this is their response:

Thank you for your message to the Division of Drug Information at the

Center

for Drug Evaluation and Research (CDER), one of the five centers

within the

Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

You are correct in that Avastin is FDA approved only as a first-line

treatment for patients with metastatic colorectal cancer. This

approval is

based upon clinical trials performed in support of that specific

indication.

The FDA is empowered by law to review drug products for safety and

effectiveness. However, once approved, a drug product may be

prescribed by a

licensed physician for any use that, based on the physician's

professional

opinion, is deemed to be appropriate. This action is considered to be

part

of the practice of medicine. FDA does not regulate the practice of

medicine

and cannot comment on, or recommend, a course of treatment for any

individual.

Sincerely

Division of Drug Information

BS-100, Rockville, MD 20857

As you can see it's up to your doctor to determine if Avastin should

be tried. It hasn't been tested other than 1st line but that doesn't

mean it won't help.

Also, Erbitux can be used alone. I've read that Erbitux with

Camptosar has better results but Erbitux alone has helped shrink or

stabalize tumors. Also, I've never read anywhere that a patient

needs to fail another chemo in order to get Erbitux.

I hope that your Dad feels better everyday and that these new drugs

help him.

Thinking of you and hoping for the best,

Kat

> By this time, Avastin and Erbitux had just come out. His Dr.

scheduled him to go into the hospital to get Avastin only to get a

call from the hospital (Swedish in Seattle) saying they will only

give Avastin as a first-line treatment since that is what it was

approved for. They had his biopsy examined and found that it is the

type of cancer that Erbitux is used for but

> he has to have irinotecan and have that fail before he is eligible

for Erbitux

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

I'm sorry your Dad is so ill. Once he's home and feeling better I'm

sure there will be options for him. I did some research on Avastin

and Erbitux since my Mom is failing standard chemo treatments and

this is what I found. I contacted the FDA regarding Avastin as a 3rd

or 4th line treatment and this is their response:

Thank you for your message to the Division of Drug Information at the

Center

for Drug Evaluation and Research (CDER), one of the five centers

within the

Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

You are correct in that Avastin is FDA approved only as a first-line

treatment for patients with metastatic colorectal cancer. This

approval is

based upon clinical trials performed in support of that specific

indication.

The FDA is empowered by law to review drug products for safety and

effectiveness. However, once approved, a drug product may be

prescribed by a

licensed physician for any use that, based on the physician's

professional

opinion, is deemed to be appropriate. This action is considered to be

part

of the practice of medicine. FDA does not regulate the practice of

medicine

and cannot comment on, or recommend, a course of treatment for any

individual.

Sincerely

Division of Drug Information

BS-100, Rockville, MD 20857

As you can see it's up to your doctor to determine if Avastin should

be tried. It hasn't been tested other than 1st line but that doesn't

mean it won't help.

Also, Erbitux can be used alone. I've read that Erbitux with

Camptosar has better results but Erbitux alone has helped shrink or

stabalize tumors. Also, I've never read anywhere that a patient

needs to fail another chemo in order to get Erbitux.

I hope that your Dad feels better everyday and that these new drugs

help him.

Thinking of you and hoping for the best,

Kat

> By this time, Avastin and Erbitux had just come out. His Dr.

scheduled him to go into the hospital to get Avastin only to get a

call from the hospital (Swedish in Seattle) saying they will only

give Avastin as a first-line treatment since that is what it was

approved for. They had his biopsy examined and found that it is the

type of cancer that Erbitux is used for but

> he has to have irinotecan and have that fail before he is eligible

for Erbitux

[Guest guest]

Hi and others,

Avastin has been " tested " in my husband's case as 3rd or 4th line

(I've lost track)trial and it stabilized his disease from October

2003 to March 2004. He will probably be unable to go on with the

trial because of a stricture somewhere in his colon, making him

ill. I also know that the other patient at our cancer center did

well on it-(I was told his condition was similar to my husband's),

as I kept asking about his progress. This information has probably

not been reported officially anywhere yet-just our own personal

experience. Certainly hope this is helpful.

Remaining hopeful,

Annie M

> > By this time, Avastin and Erbitux had just come out. His Dr.

> scheduled him to go into the hospital to get Avastin only to get a

> call from the hospital (Swedish in Seattle) saying they will only

> give Avastin as a first-line treatment since that is what it was

> approved for. They had his biopsy examined and found that it is

the

> type of cancer that Erbitux is used for but

> > he has to have irinotecan and have that fail before he is

eligible

> for Erbitux

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Hi and others,

Avastin has been " tested " in my husband's case as 3rd or 4th line

(I've lost track)trial and it stabilized his disease from October

2003 to March 2004. He will probably be unable to go on with the

trial because of a stricture somewhere in his colon, making him

ill. I also know that the other patient at our cancer center did

well on it-(I was told his condition was similar to my husband's),

as I kept asking about his progress. This information has probably

not been reported officially anywhere yet-just our own personal

experience. Certainly hope this is helpful.

Remaining hopeful,

Annie M

> > By this time, Avastin and Erbitux had just come out. His Dr.

> scheduled him to go into the hospital to get Avastin only to get a

> call from the hospital (Swedish in Seattle) saying they will only

> give Avastin as a first-line treatment since that is what it was

> approved for. They had his biopsy examined and found that it is

the

> type of cancer that Erbitux is used for but

> > he has to have irinotecan and have that fail before he is

eligible

> for Erbitux