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Yes, i believe that ra can be put in remission but it takes more than diet in

most cases. I went to a new AP doc this week and heres some of what he told me.

First, Detoxification. Test for metals such as mercury from dental work, and

other metals. Use chelation techniques to remove these metals and toxins, this

involves cleaning the lower intestine(you know what that means). Look for

sources of bacteria as in dental work. Root canals are always suspect and he

told me to never ever get a root canal.

We also talked about food allergy testing.

He told me i wasn't getting enough minerals or protein. He didnt suggest eating

meat, but nuts or beans instead and hes going to give me a calcium-mineral

suppliment. He also told me to take msm at 4000 mg per day(for my osteo

arthritis)

As far as the foods to eat, my 2 cents are as follows. You have to give up

meat, it takes just too long to digest and makes your body work too hard doing

it. Rotting meat in your intestines is a good source of bacteria. Replace meat

with raw nuts (except peanuts) and beans like lentils. Lentil soup is tasty and

has magnesium ,zinc and protein. When you eat any kind of beans take a digestive

enzyme at mealtime as beans are sometimes difficult to digest.

Both the people i met in person who beat their arthritis are vegetarians. I

have also read a study that showed that of the people in the study 100% showed

some improvement in their symptoms after being on a vegetarian diet for 1 year

(i will try to find that article). I would suggest a b vitamin test as b-12 is

acquired from meat products and you may have to supplement, however you also can

overdose on b vitamins so be careful. You could also eat organic eggs 3 or 4

times a week for additional b-12 and some protein.

pH Balance, simply put, meat eaters are acidic. Develop a diet combination to

achieve a balanced pH. I think this is critical. This is one reason why a raw

food diet may be so beneficial. Get a list of what foods cause acidity, and

which foods help bring you close to a neutral pH of 7.4 You gotta eat raw foods.

Lots of green stuff. You can test this with litmus paper.

Sugar, forget about sugar from any source including fruit. No caffeine, sodas,

coffee. Drink water filtered or bottled, Chlorine kills the good and bad

bacteria in your digestive tract.

No rice, potatoes or starches. Replace with Millet and Buckwheat.

Eat sea vegetables to get those trace minerals.

Theirs tons more but you will be reading about it I'm sure. Ive been a

vegetarian for about a year but i haven't gone far enough. Mainly i don't think

i eat enough of what i need to be healthy, Like sea vegetables. And i eat things

i shouldn't like rice, potatoes. I did really good until about 2 months ago and

had a big flare up. So I'm going to be more diligent in the future.

rheumatic Damn Doctors

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Ok, so i went to my followup visit to my Reumatologist. Had good news and

bad news. The good news is after 2 years of ra without dmards my hands and

wrists are in pretty good shape. I dont have ra in my knees and no damage from

ra in them, i have osteo arthritis because of surgury when i was a kid. I have

damage in my feet from ra but no pain what so ever(knock on wood).

But, then he says i have to come to his office once a week for my

Methetrexate shot, and i guess he doesnt like patients who disagree. So i end up

with a prescription for Arava and Dynacin (Pharmacist said i can substitute

Minocin for Dynacin) I asked for minocin and he wrote the script for Dynacin.

For 2 weeks i have been taking Vioxx 25mg 2x, and Medrol(pred) 4mg x 2 per

day which cut the pain of my big flare. I figure to cut the pred to 4 mg and

then down to 0 and continue the vioxx and add minocin 100mg twice a day

mon-wed-fri ( im still my own doctor lmao).

Now the interesting thing is i was in remission for about 4-5 months last

summer, but since my knee problem was from osteo i accually was in remmission

from ra for about 8-9 months since that was my only problem for those additional

months.

Now for those who po po the diet issue, thats all i changed for the first

year of my ra. I made gradual changes and got gradual improvement until finally

it was gone. The last thing i changed was becoming a vegetarian(cept for fish).

And recently i discovered i have a issue with wheat. The weird thing is how ra

can come and go like that. It is very disheartening. But i will stuck to my

guns, i feel it can be overcome again.

And for those who dont think diet helps,(in not saying its a cure) a rule

of thumb is it takes 1 year to reverse every 7 years of abuse. It doesnt happen

overnight. Its something you have to stick with for the long haul.

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Out of curiosity, what sort of doctor was this? Naturopath, allopathic, DO,

holistic?

Mark

rheumatic Damn Doctors

From: " " <veggie@...>

Ok, so i went to my followup visit to my Reumatologist. Had good news and

bad news. The good news is after 2 years of ra without dmards my hands and

wrists are in pretty good shape. I dont have ra in my knees and no damage from

ra in them, i have osteo arthritis because of surgury when i was a kid. I have

damage in my feet from ra but no pain what so ever(knock on wood).

But, then he says i have to come to his office once a week for my

Methetrexate shot, and i guess he doesnt like patients who disagree. So i end up

with a prescription for Arava and Dynacin (Pharmacist said i can substitute

Minocin for Dynacin) I asked for minocin and he wrote the script for Dynacin.

For 2 weeks i have been taking Vioxx 25mg 2x, and Medrol(pred) 4mg x 2

per day which cut the pain of my big flare. I figure to cut the pred to 4 mg and

then down to 0 and continue the vioxx and add minocin 100mg twice a day

mon-wed-fri ( im still my own doctor lmao).

Now the interesting thing is i was in remission for about 4-5 months last

summer, but since my knee problem was from osteo i accually was in remmission

from ra for about 8-9 months since that was my only problem for those additional

months.

Now for those who po po the diet issue, thats all i changed for the first

year of my ra. I made gradual changes and got gradual improvement until finally

it was gone. The last thing i changed was becoming a vegetarian(cept for fish).

And recently i discovered i have a issue with wheat. The weird thing is how ra

can come and go like that. It is very disheartening. But i will stuck to my

guns, i feel it can be overcome again.

And for those who dont think diet helps,(in not saying its a cure) a rule

of thumb is it takes 1 year to reverse every 7 years of abuse. It doesnt happen

overnight. Its something you have to stick with for the long haul.

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rheumatic Damn Doctors

From: " " <veggie@...>

Ok, so i went to my followup visit to my Reumatologist. Had good news

and bad news. The good news is after 2 years of ra without dmards my hands and

wrists are in pretty good shape. I dont have ra in my knees and no damage from

ra in them, i have osteo arthritis because of surgury when i was a kid. I have

damage in my feet from ra but no pain what so ever(knock on wood).

But, then he says i have to come to his office once a week for my

Methetrexate shot, and i guess he doesnt like patients who disagree. So i end up

with a prescription for Arava and Dynacin (Pharmacist said i can substitute

Minocin for Dynacin) I asked for minocin and he wrote the script for Dynacin.

For 2 weeks i have been taking Vioxx 25mg 2x, and Medrol(pred) 4mg x 2

per day which cut the pain of my big flare. I figure to cut the pred to 4 mg and

then down to 0 and continue the vioxx and add minocin 100mg twice a day

mon-wed-fri ( im still my own doctor lmao).

Now the interesting thing is i was in remission for about 4-5 months

last summer, but since my knee problem was from osteo i accually was in

remmission from ra for about 8-9 months since that was my only problem for those

additional months.

Now for those who po po the diet issue, thats all i changed for the

first year of my ra. I made gradual changes and got gradual improvement until

finally it was gone. The last thing i changed was becoming a vegetarian(cept for

fish). And recently i discovered i have a issue with wheat. The weird thing is

how ra can come and go like that. It is very disheartening. But i will stuck to

my guns, i feel it can be overcome again.

And for those who dont think diet helps,(in not saying its a cure) a

rule of thumb is it takes 1 year to reverse every 7 years of abuse. It doesnt

happen overnight. Its something you have to stick with for the long haul.

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Yes, i believe that ra can be put in remission but it takes more than diet in

most cases. I went to a new AP doc this week and heres some of what he told me.

First, Detoxification. Test for metals such as mercury from dental work, and

other metals. Use chelation techniques to remove these metals and toxins, this

involves cleaning the lower intestine(you know what that means). Look for

sources of bacteria as in dental work. Root canals are always suspect and he

told me to never ever get a root canal.

We also talked about food allergy testing.

He told me i wasn't getting enough minerals or protein. He didnt suggest

eating meat, but nuts or beans instead and hes going to give me a

calcium-mineral suppliment. He also told me to take msm at 4000 mg per day(for

my osteo arthritis)

As far as the foods to eat, my 2 cents are as follows. You have to give up

meat, it takes just too long to digest and makes your body work too hard doing

it. Rotting meat in your intestines is a good source of bacteria. Replace meat

with raw nuts (except peanuts) and beans like lentils. Lentil soup is tasty and

has magnesium ,zinc and protein. When you eat any kind of beans take a digestive

enzyme at mealtime as beans are sometimes difficult to digest.

Both the people i met in person who beat their arthritis are vegetarians. I

have also read a study that showed that of the people in the study 100% showed

some improvement in their symptoms after being on a vegetarian diet for 1 year

(i will try to find that article). I would suggest a b vitamin test as b-12 is

acquired from meat products and you may have to supplement, however you also can

overdose on b vitamins so be careful. You could also eat organic eggs 3 or 4

times a week for additional b-12 and some protein.

pH Balance, simply put, meat eaters are acidic. Develop a diet combination to

achieve a balanced pH. I think this is critical. This is one reason why a raw

food diet may be so beneficial. Get a list of what foods cause acidity, and

which foods help bring you close to a neutral pH of 7.4 You gotta eat raw foods.

Lots of green stuff. You can test this with litmus paper.

Sugar, forget about sugar from any source including fruit. No caffeine,

sodas, coffee. Drink water filtered or bottled, Chlorine kills the good and bad

bacteria in your digestive tract.

No rice, potatoes or starches. Replace with Millet and Buckwheat.

Eat sea vegetables to get those trace minerals.

Theirs tons more but you will be reading about it I'm sure. Ive been a

vegetarian for about a year but i haven't gone far enough. Mainly i don't think

i eat enough of what i need to be healthy, Like sea vegetables. And i eat things

i shouldn't like rice, potatoes. I did really good until about 2 months ago and

had a big flare up. So I'm going to be more diligent in the future.

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I've been wondering if diet can put people into remission in the same way

antibiotics do -- this because I find I can't take Minocin and my doctor isn't

open to trying another tetracycline because of my bad reaction. I've been

thinking about that woman you met who follows the Anne Wigmore diet. I looked

it up and have ordered some books. Do you have any idea how long she has been

in remission from the RA? and whether or not she has normal blood tests now? I

have worked with a nutritionist for four years. He has helped greatly, but the

bone erosion continues. Doggone

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