Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 Yes, i believe that ra can be put in remission but it takes more than diet in most cases. I went to a new AP doc this week and heres some of what he told me. First, Detoxification. Test for metals such as mercury from dental work, and other metals. Use chelation techniques to remove these metals and toxins, this involves cleaning the lower intestine(you know what that means). Look for sources of bacteria as in dental work. Root canals are always suspect and he told me to never ever get a root canal. We also talked about food allergy testing. He told me i wasn't getting enough minerals or protein. He didnt suggest eating meat, but nuts or beans instead and hes going to give me a calcium-mineral suppliment. He also told me to take msm at 4000 mg per day(for my osteo arthritis) As far as the foods to eat, my 2 cents are as follows. You have to give up meat, it takes just too long to digest and makes your body work too hard doing it. Rotting meat in your intestines is a good source of bacteria. Replace meat with raw nuts (except peanuts) and beans like lentils. Lentil soup is tasty and has magnesium ,zinc and protein. When you eat any kind of beans take a digestive enzyme at mealtime as beans are sometimes difficult to digest. Both the people i met in person who beat their arthritis are vegetarians. I have also read a study that showed that of the people in the study 100% showed some improvement in their symptoms after being on a vegetarian diet for 1 year (i will try to find that article). I would suggest a b vitamin test as b-12 is acquired from meat products and you may have to supplement, however you also can overdose on b vitamins so be careful. You could also eat organic eggs 3 or 4 times a week for additional b-12 and some protein. pH Balance, simply put, meat eaters are acidic. Develop a diet combination to achieve a balanced pH. I think this is critical. This is one reason why a raw food diet may be so beneficial. Get a list of what foods cause acidity, and which foods help bring you close to a neutral pH of 7.4 You gotta eat raw foods. Lots of green stuff. You can test this with litmus paper. Sugar, forget about sugar from any source including fruit. No caffeine, sodas, coffee. Drink water filtered or bottled, Chlorine kills the good and bad bacteria in your digestive tract. No rice, potatoes or starches. Replace with Millet and Buckwheat. Eat sea vegetables to get those trace minerals. Theirs tons more but you will be reading about it I'm sure. Ive been a vegetarian for about a year but i haven't gone far enough. Mainly i don't think i eat enough of what i need to be healthy, Like sea vegetables. And i eat things i shouldn't like rice, potatoes. I did really good until about 2 months ago and had a big flare up. So I'm going to be more diligent in the future. rheumatic Damn Doctors From: " " <veggie@...> Ok, so i went to my followup visit to my Reumatologist. Had good news and bad news. The good news is after 2 years of ra without dmards my hands and wrists are in pretty good shape. I dont have ra in my knees and no damage from ra in them, i have osteo arthritis because of surgury when i was a kid. I have damage in my feet from ra but no pain what so ever(knock on wood). But, then he says i have to come to his office once a week for my Methetrexate shot, and i guess he doesnt like patients who disagree. So i end up with a prescription for Arava and Dynacin (Pharmacist said i can substitute Minocin for Dynacin) I asked for minocin and he wrote the script for Dynacin. For 2 weeks i have been taking Vioxx 25mg 2x, and Medrol(pred) 4mg x 2 per day which cut the pain of my big flare. I figure to cut the pred to 4 mg and then down to 0 and continue the vioxx and add minocin 100mg twice a day mon-wed-fri ( im still my own doctor lmao). Now the interesting thing is i was in remission for about 4-5 months last summer, but since my knee problem was from osteo i accually was in remmission from ra for about 8-9 months since that was my only problem for those additional months. Now for those who po po the diet issue, thats all i changed for the first year of my ra. I made gradual changes and got gradual improvement until finally it was gone. The last thing i changed was becoming a vegetarian(cept for fish). And recently i discovered i have a issue with wheat. The weird thing is how ra can come and go like that. It is very disheartening. But i will stuck to my guns, i feel it can be overcome again. And for those who dont think diet helps,(in not saying its a cure) a rule of thumb is it takes 1 year to reverse every 7 years of abuse. It doesnt happen overnight. 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Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 Out of curiosity, what sort of doctor was this? Naturopath, allopathic, DO, holistic? Mark rheumatic Damn Doctors From: " " <veggie@...> Ok, so i went to my followup visit to my Reumatologist. Had good news and bad news. The good news is after 2 years of ra without dmards my hands and wrists are in pretty good shape. I dont have ra in my knees and no damage from ra in them, i have osteo arthritis because of surgury when i was a kid. I have damage in my feet from ra but no pain what so ever(knock on wood). But, then he says i have to come to his office once a week for my Methetrexate shot, and i guess he doesnt like patients who disagree. So i end up with a prescription for Arava and Dynacin (Pharmacist said i can substitute Minocin for Dynacin) I asked for minocin and he wrote the script for Dynacin. For 2 weeks i have been taking Vioxx 25mg 2x, and Medrol(pred) 4mg x 2 per day which cut the pain of my big flare. I figure to cut the pred to 4 mg and then down to 0 and continue the vioxx and add minocin 100mg twice a day mon-wed-fri ( im still my own doctor lmao). Now the interesting thing is i was in remission for about 4-5 months last summer, but since my knee problem was from osteo i accually was in remmission from ra for about 8-9 months since that was my only problem for those additional months. Now for those who po po the diet issue, thats all i changed for the first year of my ra. I made gradual changes and got gradual improvement until finally it was gone. The last thing i changed was becoming a vegetarian(cept for fish). And recently i discovered i have a issue with wheat. The weird thing is how ra can come and go like that. It is very disheartening. But i will stuck to my guns, i feel it can be overcome again. And for those who dont think diet helps,(in not saying its a cure) a rule of thumb is it takes 1 year to reverse every 7 years of abuse. It doesnt happen overnight. Its something you have to stick with for the long haul. http://users.ibx.net/veggie -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please click above to support our sponsor -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Please click above to support our sponsor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 Hes a MD rheumatic Damn Doctors From: " " <veggie@...> Ok, so i went to my followup visit to my Reumatologist. Had good news and bad news. The good news is after 2 years of ra without dmards my hands and wrists are in pretty good shape. I dont have ra in my knees and no damage from ra in them, i have osteo arthritis because of surgury when i was a kid. I have damage in my feet from ra but no pain what so ever(knock on wood). But, then he says i have to come to his office once a week for my Methetrexate shot, and i guess he doesnt like patients who disagree. So i end up with a prescription for Arava and Dynacin (Pharmacist said i can substitute Minocin for Dynacin) I asked for minocin and he wrote the script for Dynacin. For 2 weeks i have been taking Vioxx 25mg 2x, and Medrol(pred) 4mg x 2 per day which cut the pain of my big flare. I figure to cut the pred to 4 mg and then down to 0 and continue the vioxx and add minocin 100mg twice a day mon-wed-fri ( im still my own doctor lmao). Now the interesting thing is i was in remission for about 4-5 months last summer, but since my knee problem was from osteo i accually was in remmission from ra for about 8-9 months since that was my only problem for those additional months. Now for those who po po the diet issue, thats all i changed for the first year of my ra. I made gradual changes and got gradual improvement until finally it was gone. The last thing i changed was becoming a vegetarian(cept for fish). And recently i discovered i have a issue with wheat. The weird thing is how ra can come and go like that. It is very disheartening. But i will stuck to my guns, i feel it can be overcome again. And for those who dont think diet helps,(in not saying its a cure) a rule of thumb is it takes 1 year to reverse every 7 years of abuse. It doesnt happen overnight. Its something you have to stick with for the long haul. http://users.ibx.net/veggie ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Please click above to support our sponsor ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please click above to support our sponsor ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 Yes, i believe that ra can be put in remission but it takes more than diet in most cases. I went to a new AP doc this week and heres some of what he told me. First, Detoxification. Test for metals such as mercury from dental work, and other metals. Use chelation techniques to remove these metals and toxins, this involves cleaning the lower intestine(you know what that means). Look for sources of bacteria as in dental work. Root canals are always suspect and he told me to never ever get a root canal. We also talked about food allergy testing. He told me i wasn't getting enough minerals or protein. He didnt suggest eating meat, but nuts or beans instead and hes going to give me a calcium-mineral suppliment. He also told me to take msm at 4000 mg per day(for my osteo arthritis) As far as the foods to eat, my 2 cents are as follows. You have to give up meat, it takes just too long to digest and makes your body work too hard doing it. Rotting meat in your intestines is a good source of bacteria. Replace meat with raw nuts (except peanuts) and beans like lentils. Lentil soup is tasty and has magnesium ,zinc and protein. When you eat any kind of beans take a digestive enzyme at mealtime as beans are sometimes difficult to digest. Both the people i met in person who beat their arthritis are vegetarians. I have also read a study that showed that of the people in the study 100% showed some improvement in their symptoms after being on a vegetarian diet for 1 year (i will try to find that article). I would suggest a b vitamin test as b-12 is acquired from meat products and you may have to supplement, however you also can overdose on b vitamins so be careful. You could also eat organic eggs 3 or 4 times a week for additional b-12 and some protein. pH Balance, simply put, meat eaters are acidic. Develop a diet combination to achieve a balanced pH. I think this is critical. This is one reason why a raw food diet may be so beneficial. Get a list of what foods cause acidity, and which foods help bring you close to a neutral pH of 7.4 You gotta eat raw foods. Lots of green stuff. You can test this with litmus paper. Sugar, forget about sugar from any source including fruit. No caffeine, sodas, coffee. Drink water filtered or bottled, Chlorine kills the good and bad bacteria in your digestive tract. No rice, potatoes or starches. Replace with Millet and Buckwheat. Eat sea vegetables to get those trace minerals. Theirs tons more but you will be reading about it I'm sure. Ive been a vegetarian for about a year but i haven't gone far enough. Mainly i don't think i eat enough of what i need to be healthy, Like sea vegetables. And i eat things i shouldn't like rice, potatoes. I did really good until about 2 months ago and had a big flare up. So I'm going to be more diligent in the future. Re: rheumatic Damn Doctors I've been wondering if diet can put people into remission in the same way antibiotics do -- this because I find I can't take Minocin and my doctor isn't open to trying another tetracycline because of my bad reaction. I've been thinking about that woman you met who follows the Anne Wigmore diet. I looked it up and have ordered some books. Do you have any idea how long she has been in remission from the RA? and whether or not she has normal blood tests now? I have worked with a nutritionist for four years. He has helped greatly, but the bone erosion continues. Doggone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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