Re: Update on my meds

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pmmnmb wrote:

>

> Just to update those of you who responded to my email below (for

> reference), I called my endo yesterday and had her call in a

> prescription for PTU for me to make the switch, which I did starting

> with this morning's dose. I just indicated that I didn't want to

> wait until I got pregnant to make the switch from generic Tap to PTU,

> not that we are trying but you never know.

>

> So far, I've felt no difference with taking the Synthroid even though

> it has only been 5 days. I'll have labs done in 4 weeks to see where

> my new block and replace therapy has taken me. Hopefully I will

> start drifting away from hypo land.

Okay you are on 10mg Tapazole - which is (VERY) roughly 100mg

daily of PTU.

PTU is best taken 3 times a day, at 8 hour intervals, if you

were slightly hypo the doctor might drop the dose (but you got

thyroxine instead which might be better!).

So I assume you'll be doing about 25 mg every 8 hours, which is

75mg daily, but that is the closest easy dose to work out (1/2 a

pill every 8 hours), or you'll be left doing some even more

convoluted pill juggling like 1/2 for breakfast, 1/2 with

afternoon coffee, 1 at bed time.... argh.

So what dose did the doctor suggest?

Simon, very concerned your doc doesn't get the starting dose

too wrong like mine did, it was about 3 days before I was

sweating continuously, and Elaine and co. persuaded me to split

the dose......

[Guest guest]

Simon, my doc suggested that I take 50 mg twice a day (Yes-100 mg a day). I

know that PTU should be taken every 8 hours but I thought I would go with what

she suggested first before I started breaking the pills up into 3 doses. What

do you think? (Or anyone else out there reading this post?) What did your doc

start you out with on PTU that screwed up your system?

in land

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Simon Waters wrote: pmmnmb wrote:

>

> Just to update those of you who responded to my email below (for

> reference), I called my endo yesterday and had her call in a

> prescription for PTU for me to make the switch, which I did starting

> with this morning's dose. I just indicated that I didn't want to

> wait until I got pregnant to make the switch from generic Tap to PTU,

> not that we are trying but you never know.

>

> So far, I've felt no difference with taking the Synthroid even though

> it has only been 5 days. I'll have labs done in 4 weeks to see where

> my new block and replace therapy has taken me. Hopefully I will

> start drifting away from hypo land.

Okay you are on 10mg Tapazole - which is (VERY) roughly 100mg

daily of PTU.

PTU is best taken 3 times a day, at 8 hour intervals, if you

were slightly hypo the doctor might drop the dose (but you got

thyroxine instead which might be better!).

So I assume you'll be doing about 25 mg every 8 hours, which is

75mg daily, but that is the closest easy dose to work out (1/2 a

pill every 8 hours), or you'll be left doing some even more

convoluted pill juggling like 1/2 for breakfast, 1/2 with

afternoon coffee, 1 at bed time.... argh.

So what dose did the doctor suggest?

Simon, very concerned your doc doesn't get the starting dose

too wrong like mine did, it was about 3 days before I was

sweating continuously, and Elaine and co. persuaded me to split

the dose......

in land

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Willis wrote:

>

> Simon, my doc suggested that I take 50 mg twice a day (Yes-100 mg a day). I

know that PTU should be taken every 8 hours but I thought I would go with what

she suggested first before I started breaking the pills up into 3 doses. What

do you think? (Or anyone else out there reading this post?) What did your doc

start you out with on PTU that screwed up your system?

50 mg twice a day sounds a good starting dose, based on what you

were on before.

I was hypo on 5mg a day of Carbimazole (similar to Tapazole),

and am on 25mg twice a day now, so your be making the same

transition as me (but twice as much of everything - don't worry

that you are twice as sick they already hacked my thyroid about

with surgery).

The dose that screwed me up with 50mg once a day, so you see how

important timing is! That is every 12 hours, not just twice a

day!

I tried 12.5, 12.5 25 (1/4, 1/4, half before bed) but that was

too much PTU!

I am slightly concerned I am getting slightly manic toward the

end of the twelve hours, but if you are hypo on ATD's, with

thyroxine perhaps it won't be as noticable. I also had something

else going on, I suspect with my liver, hence the switch of

drugs.

I'm also slightly concerned at waking up at 05:00 with exciting

dreams, I don't mind the exciting dreams, but 05:00 ? Still

makes a change from going to bed at 05:00.

I guess I'm going hyper again.

I must confess I literally just sat down to look for the

evidence for prescribing PTU every eight hours to see if it is

strong enough to sway my doctor, hence my other post digging up

references to PTU.

Ironically my doctor is asking my endo if there is any reason

not to try block and replace, so I might be joining you on the

thyroxine (and hopefully if Dr Toft has really changed his mind

perhaps T3 as well).

I assume the changes over the day that I see must be due to T3

production, as my FT4 is always fine when it is measured, and it

doesn't change quickly (allegedly), but they aren't measuring

FT3 here (UK) arghhhh......

So I'm quite prepared to believe those who say the more evenly

you can dose the PTU the better, and that we can probably have

less PTU, spread more evenly - hence 25, 25, 25 I suggested for

you, or 12.5 12.5 12.5 I suggested to my doctor for me (he was

concerned at my cutting the pills into uneven quarters).

[Guest guest]

Simon,

How long have you been on PTU now? I think I recall answering a post of yours

when you were switching to PTU. I was on PTU before and had to switch to Tap

because I had an allergic reaction. But that was after I had been on PTU for 2

months and my dosage was upped to 750 mg a day!!! I guess I was just allergic

to that large of a dose. Hopefully being on the 100 mg/day won't bother me.

I'll find out in a few days if it does but hopefully not.

I'll keep you up to date on how the BRT is working. I also had some weird but

good dreams over the weekend. They happened prior to my starting the Synthroid

and PTU though. Ones that I remembered clearly and they were in color. I could

describe this dress that was in one of them in great detail, even down to the

inside lining of a dress that was bright blue! Strange. Maybe all of the

recent posts about dreaming in color had something to do with that.

in land

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[Guest guest]

Hi Donna!

I'm sure Pam will respond, but Synthroid isn't a beta blocker. It's your

thyroid hormone replacement. Beta blockers in general do this: Reduce angina

attacks, stabilize irregular heartbeat, lower blood pressure, reduce

frequency of vascular headaches.

Synthroid is used to replace thyroid hormones. They are two very different

drugs.

Hope that helps!

Ann

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In a message dated Wed, 03 Jul 2002 20:13:44 +0100, simon@...

writes:

> Simon, very concerned your doc doesn't get the starting dose

> too wrong like mine did, it was about 3 days before I was

> sweating continuously, and Elaine and co. persuaded me to

> split

> the dose......

Simon, I don't really understand what you're talking about. After my doctor

appt, I'm very frustrated and confused today. I've never taken any ATD's and

the doc is starting me on 150 mg 3 times/day. Is that too much? It seems like

an enormous dose, but I'm not familiar with it. I'm waiting to start it until I

feel more comfortable with the dose.

Thanks,

Tori

[Guest guest]

Hi Tori,

I am in a rush right now, and ..WOW.. lots of mail today !

I must very quickly write to you though.

Please do NOT wait to start your PTU.

ATDs are normally started at a high dose, to get you out of danger. THEN

they are reduced .

The average starting dose seems to be 300mg.

But since you are VERY hyper, a slightly higher dose seems reasonable.

The people you read about here on the list, taking smaller amounts have been

treated longer, and are NOW at a lower dose.

As you may remember, I was VERY, VERY hyper when diagnosed. I was started at

1200mg. with reductions it was about 2 mo. before I was able to get down to

that 300mg.

Even IF it turns out the bad hand writing was supposed to be 300mg and not

the 450mg you have written there... 450mg will do no harm until you have a

chance to clear up your question.

Figured you needed a little perspective.

Please be very careful of the Prednisone.

It can make you very hyper, the first week or two that you take it. It has

many other side effects. Perhaps a nice Google search will help you learn

about this one.

If it were ME, I would only add one strong medication at a time, and see

exactly what it does.

And the PTU is the ONE you really need right now.

-Pam- (Ladd)

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Pam. I just took my first dose of PTU & beta-blocker. I need the

beta-blocker to bring my heart rate down, I'm most afraid about it. I think

you're right about the prednisone. I was reading the package insert and the

possible side effects sounded like all the hyper symptoms. I wouldn't be able

to tell if it I were having an adverse reaction to it or going very hyper. I'm

going to hold off on it until I talk to my Dr. Little from Bastyr. It kinda

shocked me that it was prescribed. I think she looked over my medical history

and decided because in our 5 minute visit we didn't discuss anything it would be

used to treat.

Peace,

Tori

[Guest guest]

Tori,

I am relieved you see my logic about the prednisione. I hope you got a FULL

package insert, not just the incomplete one the pharmacy prints out.

I am sorry you have been frightened of the beta blocker. It will make you

feel SO much better.

How are you doing right now ?

It has been over an hour since you took the beta blocker. It has done all it

is going to do. So you NOW know what it makes you feel like. Beta blockers

do not have a cumulative affect. Once they are worn off, that is it, and the

next dose will then be taken.

-Pam-

[Guest guest]

Pam, is Synthroid considered a beta blocker? If not, which category does it fit

into? My doctor told me next to nothing.

Donna

Re: Update on my meds

Tori,

I am relieved you see my logic about the prednisione. I hope you got a FULL

package insert, not just the incomplete one the pharmacy prints out.

I am sorry you have been frightened of the beta blocker. It will make you

feel SO much better.

How are you doing right now ?

It has been over an hour since you took the beta blocker. It has done all it

is going to do. So you NOW know what it makes you feel like. Beta blockers

do not have a cumulative affect. Once they are worn off, that is it, and the

next dose will then be taken.

-Pam-

[Guest guest]

Hi Tori! I'm glad your day was a success, even if it was drawn out. There is

no reason to be afraid of the beta-blocker, though it could make you a

little dizzy and tired at first until your body gets used to it, but it will

really calm you down and make you feel somewhat normal. Just don't suddenly

stop taken them. Or were you saying you are most afraid for your heart?

Either way, I'm glad you are on them!

I doubt the dispensary at Bastyr could help you with your questions about

these meds, but maybe they would have some info on drug interactions with

herbs and such, so I guess they might know more that I first assumed.

Let us know how you are feeling - I bet you sleep really well tonight!

:)Pam B.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:44:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

pladd@... writes:

> I am relieved you see my logic about the prednisione. I hope you got a FULL

> package insert, not just the incomplete one the pharmacy prints out.

I'm really not sure why she prescribed it to me. She spoke much faster than my

brain can work. I followed your advice and took in a pen & paper intending to

take notes. I was barely able to stop her long enough to ask which meds she was

prescribing, much less take notes. It's mainly used as an arthritis med isn't

it? I have pain and stiffness in my joints sometimes, but it's not persistent

enough to warrant meds.

> I am sorry you have been frightened of the beta blocker. It will make you

> feel SO much better.

> How are you doing right now ?

> It has been over an hour since you took the beta blocker. It has done all it

> is going to do. So you NOW know what it makes you feel like. Beta blockers

> do not have a cumulative affect. Once they are worn off,

> that is it, and the

> next dose will then be taken.

I'm sorry, Pam. I didn't make myself clear. I'm scared of my rapid heart beat

and made sure the doc gave me a beta-blocker. I feel fine now, much calmer than

I've felt in a while. My heart rate is 102 bps, pretty good considering it was

128 earlier today. I had forgotten how great it feels to be 'normal'!

Oh, I forgot yet again to ask the lab tech to check my blood type. Can they

tell be looking at the results? I'm intrigued by the blood type diet and would

like to see if I guessed my blood type correctly by finding the blood type in

the diet that most closely matches my habits. If so, it would gain credibility

in my opinion.

Take care,

Tori

[Guest guest]

Okay, that makes sense. I assume my doc said to take Synthroid because I had a

nodule, I don't know. I was pregnant at the time, don't know if that would have

made a difference.

Thanks so much for the info!

Donna

Re: Update on my meds

Hi Donna!

I'm sure Pam will respond, but Synthroid isn't a beta blocker. It's your

thyroid hormone replacement. Beta blockers in general do this: Reduce angina

attacks, stabilize irregular heartbeat, lower blood pressure, reduce

frequency of vascular headaches.

Synthroid is used to replace thyroid hormones. They are two very different

drugs.

Hope that helps!

Ann

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Donna wrote:

>

> Pam, is Synthroid considered a beta blocker? If not, which category does it

fit into? My doctor told me next to nothing.

Excuse a non-Pam reply but she didn't get there yet and I have

several times zones advantage (especially since waking up at

04:30 today - argh - leaves me little better to do without

waking others up - the lawn needs cutting but the neighbours

won't apreciate it).

Synthroid is a synthetic thyroid hormone (thyroxine, or more

correctly levo-thyroxine), and is used in Graves either to;

replace thyroid hormone after surgery or ablation with

Radioactive Iodine.

or

as part of a " Block and Replace " scheme, where normal thyroid

function is inhibited with antithyroid drugs like Tapazole or

Propylthiouracil, and then replaced by pills.

Your doctor needs kick up the ...., but you can find a lot of

background information at sites like thyroid.about.com, or just

ask here.

Thyroxine as a replacement hormone (despite being synthetic it

is chemically identical to natural T4) is very safe. The

important thing being to get the dose right, but if you are in a

Graves list, and prescribed synthroid (thyroxine), you've

probably experience too much, and too little thyroid hormone, so

we probably don't need to explain what that is like.

The bone of contention with synthroid, is that the thyroid

produces several hormones, including the more potent T3 hormone,

and it is important to have the right levels of both T4 and T3.

Rats whose thyroid function is replaced with thyroxine only

don't have all their tissues returns to normal, but the

conventional medical establishment is only just beginning to

accept this is a vital part of thyroid hormone replacement. Some

realised it a long time ago hence products like thyrolar, which

contain both hormones, or the use of natural thyroid products

like Armour.

[Guest guest]

Tee Hee Tori....

You said:

I'm sorry, Pam. I didn't make myself clear

That's OK... you are pretty darn hyper right now, and none of us expect you

to make it clear. :-) We have all been down this road.

Sorry you got such a spaz doctor, but no big deal. You got exactly what you

needed, and had the composure to insist on it ! We are all proud of you

right now, because we know how confusing any doctor visits are, much less

the first one.

But aren't you glad you did not fast !

Blood type... if you have ever donated blood, they would have given you a

little wallet card, that has this info on it.

No, the tests you had will not show your blood type.

The pain and stiffness in your joints is most likely more Graves' stuff, so

in time it will lessen.

The next thing you could run into is ITCHING and or hives..

This can be caused by Graves' itself or it can be caused by a high dose of

PTU. If this happens, once the dose can be reduced it will go away.

Do NOT let them tell you it is an allergy and you must have RAI.

This is listed on the real package insert of PTU as a MINOR side effect. Did

not feel minor to ME. But I stuck it out, and once my dose was reduced it

did go away. But then I was on a really high dose. You may not have it

happen. I just wish I had known ahead of time.

Enjoy the beta blocker. It felt like a gift from the Gods my first week on

it.

Remember, all ATDs only can prevent new excess thyroid hormone from being

made. The extra you already have in your body just has to get used up. There

is nothing that will suck it out or speed it up.

They say it takes a few weeks to 8 weeks for this to happen. I felt the

change start at three weeks, and continue to improve for the full 8 weeks.

So here is your first 'HANG IN THERE'.

Many more to follow.

-Pam-

[Guest guest]

OMG, I forgot about the itching! That was so horrible, I just remember

laying in bed itching and scratching and begging my husband to SCRATCH. LOL

it's funny now. Once I started the beta blockers, that slowly went away.

:)Pam B.

[Guest guest]

L@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:44:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

pladd@... writes:

>

> > I am relieved you see my logic about the prednisione. I hope you got a FULL

> > package insert, not just the incomplete one the pharmacy prints out.

>

> I'm really not sure why she prescribed it to me. She spoke much faster than

my brain can work. I followed your advice and took in a pen & paper intending

to take notes. I was barely able to stop her long enough to ask which meds she

was prescribing, much less take notes. It's mainly used as an arthritis med

isn't it? I have pain and stiffness in my joints sometimes, but it's not

persistent enough to warrant meds.

Prednisolone/prednisone/predsol is used to treat inflammation,

arthritic inflammation, or crohns disease are common targets. It

is used in Graves to drop the antibody count, thus hopefully

minimising the eye symptoms in Graves.

It is mainly used (in Graves) to treat chronic Graves eye

disease, or as a prophylaxisis (spelling) during ablation with

radioactive Iodine (where it appears to stop the worsening of

Graves eye disease with the treatment).

Because it suppressed inflammation, and antibody response, it

can mask (and stop the normal response) to other infection.

Whilst I understand Pam's reluctance, I thought you were the one

whose other doctor wanted to treat you by reducing inflammation?

This is kind of the brute force method of conventional medicine

to treat inflammation.

[Guest guest]

Tori --

Yes, people are giving you good advice here: the beta blockers will help

immensely and the high dose of PTU right off the bat isn't uncommon. Do

both and don't worry that you're making a mistake.

Prednisone is generally prescribed for TED or Thyroid Eye Disease.

Prednisone will help the swelling -- perhaps others who have taken this for

eye problems can help me out here, but doesn't prednisone help either the

bulging or swelling near the optical nerve?

I'd check with the doc and see if your visible eye involvement was why she

prescribed prednisone. If so, make an appointment with an ophthalmologist

who knows thyroid eye disease and see what she/he has to say. Unless my

vision or eye health was in danger, I wouldn't take prednisone because of

the side affects.

B

Re: Update on my meds

> Thanks, Pam. I just took my first dose of PTU & beta-blocker. I need the

beta-blocker to bring my heart rate down, I'm most afraid about it. I think

you're right about the prednisone. I was reading the package insert and the

possible side effects sounded like all the hyper symptoms. I wouldn't be

able to tell if it I were having an adverse reaction to it or going very

hyper. I'm going to hold off on it until I talk to my Dr. Little from

Bastyr. It kinda shocked me that it was prescribed. I think she looked

over my medical history and decided because in our 5 minute visit we didn't

discuss anything it would be used to treat.

>

> Peace,

> Tori

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Nope, I was NEVER on PTU. Just beta-blockers and nutritional supplements at

the time.

:)Pam B.

Fw: Update on my meds

EXCELLENT Pam !

Since you were not on PTU, this will help our new people see for sure,

Graves' itself does cause itching that can almost drive you mad .

-Pam-

RE: Update on my meds

> OMG, I forgot about the itching! That was so horrible, I just remember

> laying in bed itching and scratching and begging my husband to SCRATCH.

LOL

> it's funny now. Once I started the beta blockers, that slowly went away.

>

> :)Pam B.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Simon,

Just to make it a bit more clear.

I was on Predisone for my eyes for some time. And having experienced both

extreme hyper and Prednisone....thank goodness at different times...I can

not imagine being really hyper and taking that steroid at the SAME time !

I know it is just not me either. I have a friend that does rounds of

Prednisone all the time, and she has the same side effects, and she is hypo

!

The first few weeks on Prednisone, it makes us feel like we are on speed. We

know this is temporary and will fade to ucky sick feelings. But while it is

happening, you will clean the house from top to bottom, plow the north

fourty, clean all your friends houses, never sleep, and have a very high

heart rate.

Tee hee, I just remembered that time. I was cleaning the yard, did both

front yards on either side of my house, and as I was sweeping my sidewalk, I

did the whole dang street...the whole block !

Great side effect if you can stand the crash that follows. But with Tori's

already elevated heart rate, this was what caused my concern.

-Pam-

[Guest guest]

Tori,

Just got to thinking...

Be sure you have writen down all your symptoms today.And put the date on it.

:-)

As we go along it gets very confusing. Good notes are going to pay off in

the long run.

-Pam-

[Guest guest]

Hi Pam,

You said:

> Tee Hee Tori....

> You said:

> I'm sorry, Pam. I didn't make myself clear

>

> That's OK... you are pretty darn hyper right now, and none of us expect you

> to make it clear. :-) We have all been down this road.

I'm glad you don't expect me to clearly express myself, I don't think I have the

ability to do that yet.

> Sorry you got such a spaz doctor, but no big deal. You got exactly what you

> needed, and had the composure to insist on it ! We are all proud of you

> right now, because we know how confusing any doctor visits are, much less

> the first one.

I didn't have much composure and I'm sure everyone in the office thought I was a

spaz. I went back to ask questions 4 times after I left. Each time I'd leave,

I'd think 'Oh yeah, I forgot about that.' Good to now the doc visits get

better.

> But aren't you glad you did not fast !

I thought I was going to pass out. I had only eaten fruit for breakfast and

seriously needed to eat something. I had brought healthy snacks just in case,

but I forgot to bring them into the office with me--figures!

> Blood type... if you have ever donated blood, they would have given you a

> little wallet card, that has this info on it.

> No, the tests you had will not show your blood type.

I can't stand the sight of blood and go hide any time the Red Cross has a blood

drive in my building. I know, I'm a wimp. I spent the first quarter of my

college career in pre-med before I realized there's no way I could do hack it as

a doctor. I'm quite happy to be a geek ;-)

> The next thing you could run into is ITCHING and or hives..

> This can be caused by Graves' itself or it can be caused by a high dose of

> PTU. If this happens, once the dose can be reduced it will go away.

> Do NOT let them tell you it is an allergy and you must have RAI.

Oh great! I have severe skin allergies to pretty much everything. A few months

ago, I broke out into hives over my whole body because I unknowingly slept under

a down comforter at a friend's house. It was really gross. I hope I don't have

a repeat.

> This is listed on the real package insert of PTU as a MINOR side effect. Did

> not feel minor to ME. But I stuck it out, and once my dose was reduced it

> did go away. But then I was on a really high dose. You may not have it

> happen. I just wish I had known ahead of time.

I totally agree. Breaking out into hives is a major side effect--and

embarrassing!

> Enjoy the beta blocker. It felt like a gift from the Gods my first week on

> it.

Man, I feel so good! My pulse was down to 104 this morning--the best it's been

in morning time in years!

> Remember, all ATDs only can prevent new excess thyroid hormone from being

> made. The extra you already have in your body just has to get used up. There

> is nothing that will suck it out or speed it up.

> They say it takes a few weeks to 8 weeks for this to happen. I felt the

> change start at three weeks, and continue to improve for

> the full 8 weeks.

I feel better already. If it just keeps getting better, I won't complain :-)

> So here is your first 'HANG IN THERE'.

> Many more to follow.

Thanks, Pam. I'll at least hang on through my vacation!

Take care,

Tori

[Guest guest]

In a message dated Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:00:36 AM Eastern Standard Time,

petri017@... writes:

>

> Yes, people are giving you good advice here: the beta blockers will help

> immensely and the high dose of PTU right off the bat isn't uncommon. Do

> both and don't worry that you're making a mistake.

>

> Prednisone is generally prescribed for TED or Thyroid Eye Disease.

> Prednisone will help the swelling -- perhaps others who have taken this for

> eye problems can help me out here, but doesn't prednisone help either the

> bulging or swelling near the optical nerve?

>

> I'd check with the doc and see if your visible eye involvement was why she

> prescribed prednisone. If so, make an appointment with an ophthalmologist

> who knows thyroid eye disease and see what she/he has to say. Unless my

> vision or eye health was in danger, I wouldn't take

> prednisone because of

> the side affects.

Thanks, . This is great advice and I think you're right. It makes sense

that the doc would prescibe it to reduce the swelling behind my eyes. I'll see

if I can get an appt with an opthamologist before taking the prednisone.

Peace,

Tori

[Guest guest]

In a message dated Thu, 04 Jul 2002 06:00:32 +0100, simon@...

writes:

> Whilst I understand Pam's reluctance, I thought you were the one

> whose other doctor wanted to treat you by reducing inflammation?

> This is kind of the brute force method of conventional

> medicine

> to treat inflammation.

Simon,

I'm reluctant to take any new meds these days--too many bad reactions has taught

me to research anything before taking it. And the endo didn't tell me why I

should take it. If it's just for sinus probs, I probably would pass. I think

I'll see if I can see an opthamologist soon and see what they have to say about

it.

Take care,

Tori

[Guest guest]

In a message dated Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:24:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,

pladd@... writes:

> Tee hee, I just remembered that time. I was cleaning the yard, did both

> front yards on either side of my house, and as I was sweeping my sidewalk, I

> did the whole dang street...the whole block !

>

> Great side effect if you can stand the crash that follows. But with Tori's

> already elevated heart rate, this was what caused my

> concern.

Hey, my family might like me to have that side effect for a while. I'm a

naturally messy person, and it's been worse lately because I don't have the time

or energy to clean. I have much admiration for people who can keep their entire

lives organized.

-Tori