Need help

[Guest guest]

,

Although I have never been thru your situation I can sympathize. If I were

you I would call my OB again and tell her how worried you are. Or, I would go to

the ER. I have heard alot of woman have spotting in the beginning of the

pregnancy and everything turned out okay.

I wish I could give you more advice. But, if you are worried, call you OB

again. I will be thinking of you.

D.

[Guest guest]

The light spotting you refer to could very easily be implantation

bleeding. As the little embryo (called a blastocyst at this stage)

comes into your uterus, it decides on an appropriate spot and then

the cells on the surface of the blastocyst secrete enzymes that

facilitate burrowing into the lining of the uterus. Your uterine

lining is highly vascularized and thus bleeds when this implantation

occurs... many of us do not notice it.

You have a whole lot of time ahead of you. The loss rate of early

embryos is very high but most of us never know because it is lost in

time for the next period. It is often best to not be hypervigilant

re: knowing every little detail during this early period.

Spend you energy on eating very well and taking your prenatals,

laying the ground work.

Nika

> Hi ladies,

>

> I am new to this group. My name is and I had RNY on January

> 9, 2002 and have lost 130 lbs. to date. I was told that due to

> being morbidly obese I would not be able to have children without

> complications. What made it worst, was that I lost my period for

> over 5 years. The minute I got under 200 lbs. I got my period back.

>

> I recently got married. Actually, two months ago and I found out

> that I am pregnant. If I go by my LMP I am about 7 weeks pregnant

> but my OB-GYN says I am about 3-4 weeks. I don't understand.

> Anyway, the first time I went to get my bloodwork done my HCG

levels

> showed 18. Less than a week later it was 741 and 2 days later it

> hit 1471. My ob-gyn suggested I get an ultrasound because she

> thought I had ovarian cysts. She did a sonogram in her office and

> showed my husband and I where the egg was and that it was attaching

> to the uterus. She also put me on progesterone suppositories.

> Well, I went for an ultrasound last week and was told by the

> technician that there was a gestational sac but it was probably too

> early to see anything.

>

> I got my results back and the nurse practitioner called me and told

> me that I gad to go do more blood work and have the ultrasound done

> again because there was no definite yolk sac or fetal pole and that

> it was either because of a very early pregnancy, blighted ovum, or

> an impending spontaneous abortion. I almost lost it.

>

> Does anybody know anything about this kind of stuff. This is my

> first pregnancy and I am so scared of losing this baby. I am

trying

> to think positively and trusting God. Also, yesterday I noticed

> discharge with a little streak of tan color in it. I got scared

and

> called my OB-GYN she told me if it was a blighted ovum or

> spontaneous abortion there was nothing we could do but wait. That

> did not help at all. I went home and got on bed rest. Later in

the

> evening I noticed a little of that tan colored substance with a

> little dot of blood. What do I do? Should I be concerned? Is this

> normal? How about the doctor's results? I would appreciate any

> help.

>

> Thank you so much,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm not sure how regular your periods have been, but if they've just

started again, or they weren't regulated yet, you LMP won't give you an

accurate due date.

The brownish type discharge may be from implantation.. I had it also, but I

thought I was starting my period! lol (pregnancy was not even on my mind at

that point)..

I know it's going to be hard until you get some REAL answers, but try not

to worry, it'll only make it worse!!!

GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!

edd: 9/22/03

> [Original Message]

>

> To: <OSSG-pregnant >

> Date: 5/10/2003 11:51:11 AM

> Subject: Need help

>

> Hi ladies,

>

> I am new to this group. My name is and I had RNY on January

> 9, 2002 and have lost 130 lbs. to date. I was told that due to

> being morbidly obese I would not be able to have children without

> complications. What made it worst, was that I lost my period for

> over 5 years. The minute I got under 200 lbs. I got my period back.

>

> I recently got married. Actually, two months ago and I found out

> that I am pregnant. If I go by my LMP I am about 7 weeks pregnant

> but my OB-GYN says I am about 3-4 weeks. I don't understand.

> Anyway, the first time I went to get my bloodwork done my HCG levels

> showed 18. Less than a week later it was 741 and 2 days later it

> hit 1471. My ob-gyn suggested I get an ultrasound because she

> thought I had ovarian cysts. She did a sonogram in her office and

> showed my husband and I where the egg was and that it was attaching

> to the uterus. She also put me on progesterone suppositories.

> Well, I went for an ultrasound last week and was told by the

> technician that there was a gestational sac but it was probably too

> early to see anything.

>

> I got my results back and the nurse practitioner called me and told

> me that I gad to go do more blood work and have the ultrasound done

> again because there was no definite yolk sac or fetal pole and that

> it was either because of a very early pregnancy, blighted ovum, or

> an impending spontaneous abortion. I almost lost it.

>

> Does anybody know anything about this kind of stuff. This is my

> first pregnancy and I am so scared of losing this baby. I am trying

> to think positively and trusting God. Also, yesterday I noticed

> discharge with a little streak of tan color in it. I got scared and

> called my OB-GYN she told me if it was a blighted ovum or

> spontaneous abortion there was nothing we could do but wait. That

> did not help at all. I went home and got on bed rest. Later in the

> evening I noticed a little of that tan colored substance with a

> little dot of blood. What do I do? Should I be concerned? Is this

> normal? How about the doctor's results? I would appreciate any

> help.

>

> Thank you so much,

>

>

>

>

>

> Children are a blessing, and a gift from the Lord. -Psalm 127:3

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey gang,

I need help this time. Feeling really aweful and it's beginning to feel like

a downward spiral lately. Absolutely no energy, nauseus at every turn and

still loosing weight. I force myself to eat but it's about as tastey as sawdust

and I have the WORST taste in my mouth ever since the surgery. It doesn't

appear to be thrush but I've tried the nyastatin anyways and it doesn't help. I

have taken metoclopramide (generic for reglan) for nausua but it knocks me

out. Today was a milestone - 20 pounds lost since I came home from hospital a

month and a half ago. I am NOT happy about this. Granted I could stand to

loose a few pounds, but not like this. My heart has been galloping around

lately

and it's starting to scare me....in fact all of it is today as stare at the

cold hard facts. I've talked to the doc about all this but there's never

anything they can seem to do. I called because my ileostomy was literally

pouring

out that night...and has been a lot lately. I understand (finally) that it has

to do with not eating right...but I'm forcing food and it should be enough to

stanch this it seems. And yet it continues. My stoma has also shrunk, again

(down from 2.5 to 1 inch now). I was hoping to get back to work this coming

week, but, as mentioned, the last few days just seem like a huge setback and

spiral to me...not helping my mindset at all. Any suggestions? I'm starting

to feel like a nag now when I call the doctor...and he's out for two weeks as

well. How serious should I be taking this? I'm due to have reconnection

surgery within the next month. I'm worried about not being up for it.

Thanks guys - I just really needed to get these concerns out there and get

other points of view on this.

Sheila

[Guest guest]

Hi Jolene...thanks for the reply and well wishes. I popped back in to

actually clarify a few things - got offline before and thought, gee wasn't all

that

clear on a couple of things...that brain fog kicking in I guess.

Did you have it reversed that fast??? wow....if that's the case. That's

terrific. Glad to hear that things got better soon afterwards.

well....going to send in another note ...but thanks again.

Sheila

[Guest guest]

Karima,

Guess I was lucky to have the chemo/rad first, then the ileo....I don't know

at this point.

It took me a while to understand what the doc REALLY meant when he said that

the ileo continues to produce even if you don't eat. What he REALLY meant

wasn't that it just continues to produce juices, but that the level of it really

really increases. Makes it go kind nuts. I found this out from the ET nurse

the other day.

So...I guess, if you can eat...eat....I know how hard it is though.

Especially when you are alone. I stocked up on the stuff I liked...fast frozen

stuff...but it helped get me through. Wish it did now!

Well...take care. Feel better and thanks for writing.

Sheila

[Guest guest]

heard that the reversal is a lot easier. ...counting on it anyways!! I will

keep you posted on it.

[Guest guest]

Golly Sheila

Sure wish I could help you out. I know after my surgery on Oct 1 my appetite

was zero and food tasted like crap... After the re-do on Oct 8, it was like a

new day - food tasted good again but had me on IV bag food for 24 hours.. Yuk.

Dying of thirst and was lucky to get mouth swab... That part was miserable.

Course hospital food is just plain terrible. The nurses said it depends on who

is cooking.

Drat... LOL.

Anyway hopefully someone else will pop in and give you some good advice.

I will think good thoughts for you.. Hope you feel better soon.

Jolene

Need help

Hey gang,

I need help this time. Feeling really aweful and it's beginning to feel like

a downward spiral lately. Absolutely no energy, nauseus at every turn and

still loosing weight. I force myself to eat but it's about as tastey as

sawdust

and I have the WORST taste in my mouth ever since the surgery. It doesn't

appear to be thrush but I've tried the nyastatin anyways and it doesn't help.

I

have taken metoclopramide (generic for reglan) for nausua but it knocks me

out. Today was a milestone - 20 pounds lost since I came home from hospital a

month and a half ago. I am NOT happy about this. Granted I could stand to

loose a few pounds, but not like this. My heart has been galloping around

lately

and it's starting to scare me....in fact all of it is today as stare at the

cold hard facts. I've talked to the doc about all this but there's never

anything they can seem to do. I called because my ileostomy was literally

pouring

out that night...and has been a lot lately. I understand (finally) that it

has

to do with not eating right...but I'm forcing food and it should be enough to

stanch this it seems. And yet it continues. My stoma has also shrunk, again

(down from 2.5 to 1 inch now). I was hoping to get back to work this coming

week, but, as mentioned, the last few days just seem like a huge setback and

spiral to me...not helping my mindset at all. Any suggestions? I'm starting

to feel like a nag now when I call the doctor...and he's out for two weeks as

well. How serious should I be taking this? I'm due to have reconnection

surgery within the next month. I'm worried about not being up for it.

Thanks guys - I just really needed to get these concerns out there and get

other points of view on this.

Sheila

[Guest guest]

No Was not a reverse.. I sprung a leak in my incision and when they took out

staples to check it out, they saw it was open all the way inside, so I had to go

down to surgery for a re-do -- stitched me up like a turkey with retention

clamps (ouch). I felt better over all, but those darn clamps sure did make it

uncomfortable. Was really glad when they came out.

Cheers Jolene

Re: Need help

Hi Jolene...thanks for the reply and well wishes. I popped back in to

actually clarify a few things - got offline before and thought, gee wasn't all

that

clear on a couple of things...that brain fog kicking in I guess.

Did you have it reversed that fast??? wow....if that's the case. That's

terrific. Glad to hear that things got better soon afterwards.

well....going to send in another note ...but thanks again.

Sheila

[Guest guest]

Dear Sheila,

I know what you mean about a downward spiral. Maybe it is something in the

stars (like retrograde). Ok, now you know I am a nut.

I have been fighting depression seriously for weeks and sick to my stomach. I

just finished 3rd week of radiation and like you have had like a faucet running

in the colostomy. I am reduced to mostly tea and toast which I don't mind.

My doc had told me to give my GI tract a break and go on liquids.

Karima (who is hoping you feel better)

Need help

Hey gang,

I need help this time. Feeling really aweful and it's beginning to feel like

a downward spiral lately. Absolutely no energy, nauseus at every turn and

still loosing weight. I force myself to eat but it's about as tastey as

sawdust

and I have the WORST taste in my mouth ever since the surgery. It doesn't

appear to be thrush but I've tried the nyastatin anyways and it doesn't help.

I

have taken metoclopramide (generic for reglan) for nausua but it knocks me

out. Today was a milestone - 20 pounds lost since I came home from hospital a

month and a half ago. I am NOT happy about this. Granted I could stand to

loose a few pounds, but not like this. My heart has been galloping around

lately

and it's starting to scare me....in fact all of it is today as stare at the

cold hard facts. I've talked to the doc about all this but there's never

anything they can seem to do. I called because my ileostomy was literally

pouring

out that night...and has been a lot lately. I understand (finally) that it

has

to do with not eating right...but I'm forcing food and it should be enough to

stanch this it seems. And yet it continues. My stoma has also shrunk, again

(down from 2.5 to 1 inch now). I was hoping to get back to work this coming

week, but, as mentioned, the last few days just seem like a huge setback and

spiral to me...not helping my mindset at all. Any suggestions? I'm starting

to feel like a nag now when I call the doctor...and he's out for two weeks as

well. How serious should I be taking this? I'm due to have reconnection

surgery within the next month. I'm worried about not being up for it.

Thanks guys - I just really needed to get these concerns out there and get

other points of view on this.

Sheila

[Guest guest]

If it's any comfort to you Jolene, I agree about the retention clamps ... I

hated them big time. Yuck.

I should be going for a reversal sometime in early February. I am petrified of

more surgery.

Karima

Re: Need help

Hi Jolene...thanks for the reply and well wishes. I popped back in to

actually clarify a few things - got offline before and thought, gee wasn't

all that

clear on a couple of things...that brain fog kicking in I guess.

Did you have it reversed that fast??? wow....if that's the case. That's

terrific. Glad to hear that things got better soon afterwards.

well....going to send in another note ...but thanks again.

Sheila

[Guest guest]

Karima

They are really annoying.. Hope the reversal goes well.

Tell me about it. Surgery is like panicsville to me almost. Had some anxiety

when they decided to put in the portacath... Said I did not want to be knocked

out. So was consciously sedated, although I certainly did tune out for awhile,

because when I came back they were almost done. Boy was I glad. LOL.. Now the

thought of maybe needing surgery on my lung is those nodules prove to be

threatening does bother me alot. I dread it but so it goes. Will do what I have

to do to get better. Do I dread chemo as much.. You bet. LOL.. What I hate is

being on coumadin. That drug has so many " watchouts " that it is ridiculous.

Can't even eat broccoli and other green leafy vegetables, or green tea,

cranberry juice. Acetominaphen, nsaids, aspirin. Though it did say - prolonged

use or large doses of Acetominphen. So I could maybe get by with 2 tylenol at

night. The old age aches and pains have sure come out since my surgery too.

Groan...

Well I think I covered all my gripes.Waiting for daughter and kids to get ready

so we can head out to the pub.

Take care. Jolene

If it's any comfort to you Jolene, I agree about the retention clamps ... I

hated them big time. Yuck.

I should be going for a reversal sometime in early February. I am petrified

of more surgery.

Karima

Re: Need help

Hi Jolene...thanks for the reply and well wishes. I popped back in to

actually clarify a few things - got offline before and thought, gee wasn't

all that

clear on a couple of things...that brain fog kicking in I guess.

Did you have it reversed that fast??? wow....if that's the case. That's

terrific. Glad to hear that things got better soon afterwards.

well....going to send in another note ...but thanks again.

Sheila

[Guest guest]

Karima

Actually we ate and we were home before 10 pm. Could have been a good evening,

but when the drunks started going on stage and made like they could sing with

the performer (he invited them for that matter) - and they played chug-a-lug we

decided it was time to leave. They should at least keep it clean until 10 pm or

so. Some folks bring kids along and they don't need to be seeing stuff like

that. Was very disappointed...

Ready for bed

Jolene

Re: Need help

Hi Jolene...thanks for the reply and well wishes. I popped back in to

actually clarify a few things - got offline before and thought, gee

wasn't all that

clear on a couple of things...that brain fog kicking in I guess.

Did you have it reversed that fast??? wow....if that's the case.

That's

terrific. Glad to hear that things got better soon afterwards.

well....going to send in another note ...but thanks again.

Sheila

[Guest guest]

Thanks for writing back. Hope you had fun at the pub.

Karima

Re: Need help

Hi Jolene...thanks for the reply and well wishes. I popped back in to

actually clarify a few things - got offline before and thought, gee

wasn't all that

clear on a couple of things...that brain fog kicking in I guess.

Did you have it reversed that fast??? wow....if that's the case.

That's

terrific. Glad to hear that things got better soon afterwards.

well....going to send in another note ...but thanks again.

Sheila

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila - this is just a thought.

It's interesting you say the reglan knocks you out because reglan for

me was like being on an amphetamine. It was horrible! I couldn't sit

still, couldn't eat, couldn't sleep, etc. Needless to say, I stopped

that med pretty quickly. Could it be something else that's knocking

you out and the reglan that is contributing to your appetite loss and

heart galloping? Maybe you could try compazine or something else?

I also found that eating bland, salty food was about all I could

stomach during treatment. I lived on pretzels and crackers. I also ate

a lot of cheese which is high calorie, so kept me from losing too

much. Try egg nog too if you like that and it doesn't upset your

stomach. I love egg nog and now relish the thoughts of my chemo days

(well, not really but you know what I mean) when I HAD to eat the high

cal foods like egg nog to keep from losing too much. I never got too,

too skinny, but it was scary to lose a lot of weight quickly, so I

know what you mean.

Seriously, try switching up the reglan.

Good luck.

> Hey gang,

>

> I need help this time. Feeling really aweful and it's beginning to

feel like

> a downward spiral lately. Absolutely no energy, nauseus at every

turn and

> still loosing weight. I force myself to eat but it's about as tastey

as sawdust

> and I have the WORST taste in my mouth ever since the surgery. It

doesn't

> appear to be thrush but I've tried the nyastatin anyways and it

doesn't help. I

> have taken metoclopramide (generic for reglan) for nausua but it

knocks me

> out. Today was a milestone - 20 pounds lost since I came home from

hospital a

> month and a half ago. I am NOT happy about this. Granted I could

stand to

> loose a few pounds, but not like this. My heart has been galloping

around lately

> and it's starting to scare me....in fact all of it is today as stare

at the

> cold hard facts. I've talked to the doc about all this but there's

never

> anything they can seem to do. I called because my ileostomy was

literally pouring

> out that night...and has been a lot lately. I understand (finally)

that it has

> to do with not eating right...but I'm forcing food and it should be

enough to

> stanch this it seems. And yet it continues. My stoma has also

shrunk, again

> (down from 2.5 to 1 inch now). I was hoping to get back to work

this coming

> week, but, as mentioned, the last few days just seem like a huge

setback and

> spiral to me...not helping my mindset at all. Any suggestions? I'm

starting

> to feel like a nag now when I call the doctor...and he's out for two

weeks as

> well. How serious should I be taking this? I'm due to have

reconnection

> surgery within the next month. I'm worried about not being up for it.

>

> Thanks guys - I just really needed to get these concerns out there

and get

> other points of view on this.

>

> Sheila

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Zofran may help the nausea. Another drug that is helpful is Ativan.

Carnation instant Brakfast combined with ice cream, sherbert, etc., packs a

lot of calories and taste pretty good.

Go to http://www.carnationinstantbreakfast.com

For recipes

..

And as someone suggested Eggnog is great and plentiful this time of year.

Good Luck and God Bless

Narice

[Guest guest]

thank you - interesting indeed re: the reglan. You may be right about that.

Today am dead tired but " antsy " and wired feeling.

[Guest guest]

heard someone else suggest zofran as well - will see about switching to that

one. thanks!

[Guest guest]

Oh pooh. Sorry it turned out that way.

Karima

Re: Need help

Hi Jolene...thanks for the reply and well wishes. I popped back in

to

actually clarify a few things - got offline before and thought, gee

wasn't all that

clear on a couple of things...that brain fog kicking in I guess.

Did you have it reversed that fast??? wow....if that's the case.

That's

terrific. Glad to hear that things got better soon afterwards.

well....going to send in another note ...but thanks again.

Sheila

[Guest guest]

My doc has suggested staying away from dairy for me because it causes the runs.

The day I treated meself to eggnog ... was uh oh a bathroom day.

Just a thought.

Karima

Re: Need help

Zofran may help the nausea. Another drug that is helpful is Ativan.

Carnation instant Brakfast combined with ice cream, sherbert, etc., packs a

lot of calories and taste pretty good.

Go to http://www.carnationinstantbreakfast.com

For recipes

.

And as someone suggested Eggnog is great and plentiful this time of year.

Good Luck and God Bless

Narice

[Guest guest]

Would be willing to be it's the reglan. I think that's a known side

effect. I think you'll be pleased if you try something else! It had me

climbing the walls.

> thank you - interesting indeed re: the reglan. You may be right

about that.

> Today am dead tired but " antsy " and wired feeling.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Today am dead tired but " antsy " and wired feeling.

I feel that way a lot. I hate it and it scares me. Is it from the treatments

do you think?

Karima

Re: Re: Need help

thank you - interesting indeed re: the reglan. You may be right about that.

Today am dead tired but " antsy " and wired feeling.

[Guest guest]

Sheila,

Keep up the hope. You need to take it seriously as well. I'd

do a couple of things. First, I'd keep swishing and swallowing with

the nystatin - sometimes it takes a while to get to work. There is

also a medication that you can take that does a better job - it is

called diflucan. Might want to ask about it. I think fatty things

leave a worse taste in you mouth than other stuff - you might have

some luck with fresh fruits and cold meats bound with cold lettuce

and stuff like that that. When I was loosing weight, if I'd had a

urge to have something - i.e. I imagined a food that would not taste

awful, I would get it and do my best to eat it. Now that I think

about it, frozen yogurt and ice cream weren't that bad (hopefully

you not doing oxaliplatin).

If nausea is a problem, as the doctor for different nausea

medicine - there are many, many kinds. Zofran worked best for me.

Stay out of the kitchen as much as possible - smells make it worse.

But most of all - don't get down. Minor miracles happen.

Consider my story - I was operated on in February at 175lbs. In

March, started FOLFOX - consistently was loosing 5lbs per

treatment. Then, switched to FOLFIRI (thats when I started doing

frozen yogurt). Was still loosing up to 5lbs per treatment, until

july. By that time, I was at about 145lbs. From then on, have been

on a chemo vacation and have gotten most, if not all strength back -

in fact, I'm up to about 192lbs (in 4-5 months, not bad). Similar

times will happen for you as well - you just got to hang in there

until then and keep an open mind for when the chemotherapy is doing

more harm than good. I do not recall if you are stage III or IV -

if you are stage IV, like I, I think sometimes its advisable to

readjust you treatment plan to go from cancer killing to body

building - cancer killing does not make sense if you feel yucky all

of the time; at the same time though, taking the sacrifice and

mixing it in can definitely maximize the amount of feeling good time

you have as well. Don't hesistate ever to drop a line or post if

you need some advise or encouragement.

Best - Joe

http://www.cancerdaytoday.blogspot.com

> Hey gang,

>

> I need help this time. Feeling really aweful and it's beginning

to feel like

> a downward spiral lately. Absolutely no energy, nauseus at every

turn and

> still loosing weight. I force myself to eat but it's about as

tastey as sawdust

> and I have the WORST taste in my mouth ever since the surgery. It

doesn't

> appear to be thrush but I've tried the nyastatin anyways and it

doesn't help. I

> have taken metoclopramide (generic for reglan) for nausua but it

knocks me

> out. Today was a milestone - 20 pounds lost since I came home

from hospital a

> month and a half ago. I am NOT happy about this. Granted I could

stand to

> loose a few pounds, but not like this. My heart has been

galloping around lately

> and it's starting to scare me....in fact all of it is today as

stare at the

> cold hard facts. I've talked to the doc about all this but

there's never

> anything they can seem to do. I called because my ileostomy was

literally pouring

> out that night...and has been a lot lately. I understand

(finally) that it has

> to do with not eating right...but I'm forcing food and it should

be enough to

> stanch this it seems. And yet it continues. My stoma has also

shrunk, again

> (down from 2.5 to 1 inch now). I was hoping to get back to work

this coming

> week, but, as mentioned, the last few days just seem like a huge

setback and

> spiral to me...not helping my mindset at all. Any suggestions?

I'm starting

> to feel like a nag now when I call the doctor...and he's out for

two weeks as

> well. How serious should I be taking this? I'm due to have

reconnection

> surgery within the next month. I'm worried about not being up for

it.

>

> Thanks guys - I just really needed to get these concerns out there

and get

> other points of view on this.

>

> Sheila

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had a reaction to reglan. I was in the hospital after my 1st

surgery and I started shaking unconrollably. It was wierd. I guess

my pain killers had gone down a bit in dosage or something. It

didn't really hurt but it was scary and my wife and sister-in-law

had these wide eyed looks that made it worse.

Miracles happen!

Cliff H.

> thank you - interesting indeed re: the reglan. You may be right

about that.

> Today am dead tired but " antsy " and wired feeling.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Id love to help but im the oldest sibling and my next oldest in 15 so still

under your 18 years of age. I think i could probably do a half decent job of

giving their perspective but it might not be good enough for what your

doing. I think though there are probably a few people on here that could be

quite helpfull.

Chantelle