re: BAD day at the doc - Trickey

[Guest guest]

Hi,

>I managed to speak up at this point and tell

>her I was part of a group on the AP and she interrupted me saying " and

>that's very bad, that's where you're getting all this bad information.

>These chat places are full of lay people who don't know anything "

We must be a doctors worst nightmare. For years they've passed out unquestioned

judgements on grateful and supplicant patients and they've buried their

mistakes. For years the patient who had the will and intellect to question a

doctors decision had nowhere to turn other than to seek a second opinion. Now

with access to enormous amounts of information and the experiences of many

others we go to the doctors to tell him/her what we have and what the treatment

should be. It must be a very uncomfortable situation for them. That's no

excuse, they're getting paid to do a job and we expect them to do their homework

and present reasoned arguments on why they favour one diagnosis / treatment over

another. Instead of getting angry at patients who have done their homework, they

should be getting onto the web and doing their own homework.

Mike

Botswana

[Guest guest]

Hi Mike:

You have said it much better than I could have. When I read s' posting

I was livid. It brought back near term memories I have been trying to

forget. Using a term of the Brits, that rheumy should be throttled.

Harry

In a message dated 2/16/00 5:44:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, mguinney@...

writes:

> We must be a doctors worst nightmare. For years they've passed out

> unquestioned judgments on grateful and supplicant patients and they've

> buried their mistakes. For years the patient who had the will and

intellect

> to question a doctors decision had nowhere to turn other than to seek a

> second opinion. Now with access to enormous amounts of information and the

> experiences of many others we go to the doctors to tell him/her what we

have

> and what the treatment should be. It must be a very uncomfortable

situation

> for them. That's no excuse, they're getting paid to do a job and we expect

> them to do their homework and present reasoned arguments on why they favour

> one diagnosis / treatment over another. Instead of getting angry at

patients

> who have done their homework, they should be getting onto the web and doing

> their own homework.

>

>

[Guest guest]

This could not have been said better, Mike. Like I said, when I found

this local neurologist, whose wife practices biofeedback and nutrition

in the same office, who agreed to be my local doctor in between my trips

to Dr. Sinnott, he had already begun to do chelation therapy. I knew

from his office set up that it would be perfect for me if only he

agreed. Not only did he agree, but said he had already been reading

some very interesting articles on this and indeed would. Said he likes

to be on the " cutting edge of medicine. " This doctor, by the way, is

probably in his early 70's! My husband has used him along as other

attorneys across the United States as an Expert Witness in injury

cases. He is abhored by the " good old boy medical community " who are

located all in a medical corridor, eat together, socialize together, and

rake in the money together. " This doctor has always been on his out in

the city's outskirts. Although shunned, it is indeed strange that if

one cannot make a diagnosis, they are referred to this one. He has a

reputation has being a great diagnostician. He has had terrible times

with ins. co's and medicare and will no longer participate in medicare.

He just lowers the costs for the patients who cannot pay. If only the

rest of them could remember the Hippocrates Oath.

Mike Guinney wrote:

> From: " Mike Guinney " <mguinney@...>

>

> Hi, >I managed to speak up at this point and tell

> >her I was part of a group on the AP and she interrupted me saying

> " and

> >that's very bad, that's where you're getting all this bad

> information.

> >These chat places are full of lay people who don't know anything " We

> must be a doctors worst nightmare. For years they've passed out

> unquestioned judgements on grateful and supplicant patients and

> they've buried their mistakes. For years the patient who had the will

> and intellect to question a doctors decision had nowhere to turn other

> than to seek a second opinion. Now with access to enormous amounts of

> information and the experiences of many others we go to the doctors to

> tell him/her what we have and what the treatment should be. It must

> be a very uncomfortable situation for them. That's no excuse, they're

> getting paid to do a job and we expect them to do their homework and

> present reasoned arguments on why they favour one diagnosis /

> treatment over another. Instead of getting angry at patients who have

> done their homework, they should be getting onto the web and doing

> their own homework. MikeBotswana

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