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Mitch,

My only advice to you would be to grab a pen and paper and not a spoon.

If you are feeling bad, sometimes once you take your mind off of the

eating and get it busy pouring out the emotion you will feel better and

be able to remove the craving and binging thoughts from your mind.

Usually we suppress these thoughts with food and then feel bad about it.

The emotion will resurface again and again and again until you deal with

it. Just sit down and start writing. You may be very surprised at what

you see when you read it back. Usually the first few sentences will not

say much, but hit page 2 and I guarantee that you will be dumbfounded at

what you read back. You do not have to show it to anyone (and it is

best not to IMHO!), you can even throw it out or rip it up when you are

done or my favorite - drop it in the shredder. A very visual and

enjoyable removal of the stress you wrote about!

Also, it is nearly impossible to eat when you are exercising or going

for a walk, cleaning the garage - whatever. Try to find an activity

that is incompatible with eating. Dr. Phil says taking a long shower is

a great one because you can not eat and shower at the same time.

HTH, Jenn

Emotional Eating

So after my weigh-in on Saturday (down a pound), I was sailing along ---

and then came

Sunday. I forgot how it all started, but my wife and I had a discussion

where she was

chastising me a bit for spending too much time in my Palm filling out my

journal or in

the closet calculating points from the food labels and not enough time

paying attention

to her. She's probably right about this as I tend to get obsessive about

things and I

need to moderate this behavior a bit. As our discussion evolved, she

confided that

while she so much wanted my success with weight loss and is very happy,

she's also

scared that my whole new image might cause me to grow away from her. I

reassured

her that she's the love of my life and that this would never happen, but

it scared me

a bit that this even crossed her mind.

After this talk, she went out with the kids for something and I just

fell apart - finished

the FF Frozen Yogurt and the regular Frozen Yogurt in the freezer,

attacked the

girl scout cookies and the leftover chocolate chip cookies from

Halloween. Wound up

using all of my remaining FP's for the week (and my week doesn't end

till Friday).

I didn't want to blow the week, so Monday morning, with 0 Flex Points

left - I resolved

that through Friday I would stick to my point target + APs (and thru

Wednesday, I've

been doing it). I expect I'll finish the week using just my 35 FP's and

no more. On my

home scale this morning, it looks like I've done no lasting damage.

However, this raises two issues: First, have others had any similar

reactions from their

spouses? Second, after having done this as long and as well as I have,

it kind of surprised

me that I succumbed to this emotional eating binge? How do I control

this in the future?

Thanks,

Mitch

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All-Time High - 300

--------------------------------

Starting Weight - 281

Lost before Re-Joining WW - 25.2

Lost since Re-Joining WW - 66.6

Total Loss - 890.8

Current Weight - 189.2

Goal - 175

Pounds to Go - 14.2

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My brother's first wife had been overweight her entire life. It didn't

bother my brother at all. When they had been married for 10 years and had

four kids, she went on phen/fen. It took her about a year to lose a lot of

weight (close to 100 pounds). She then decided to start dating her First

Responder instructor. Basically, the weight loss cockiness and the

attention she was finally receiving from OTHER people took over. They ended

up getting divorced when their kids were 8, 6, 4 and 2. NOW.. I am not

saying this happens to everyone. (I didn't like her from the first time I

met her back when they dated in high school.) She also got divorced from

her 2nd husband this past February because she was dating someone she had

met where she is currently working. She also had gained back all of her

weight and recently had a gastric bypass. (She has a few issues anyhow.)

Mitch, I would think that you and your wife just need to continue having

discussions. Keep the communication open. I can understand where she is

coming from, but I can also understand how you are feeling too. Having your

wife raise the topic that she doesn't feel as " safe " in the relationship

probably raised a few flags that you weren't even aware of. That would have

gotten to me too. The best way to control the eating is to reassure your

wife by communicating (in a variety of ways) that YOU are not going to

stray. I'm sure that even finding out that she would think that you WOULD

stray was a bit of an eye-opener. (Maybe not that you WOULD stray... but

that you COULD... or something like that.) Having a significant other pass

this sort of judgement is scary, because it seems like it is uncharted

territory... because you've probably never even thought to stray. (I don't

mean she planted this thought in your head.) Oh, I think I am starting to

talk in circles.

> -----Original Message-----

> However, this raises two issues: First, have others had any similar

> reactions from their

> spouses? Second, after having done this as long and as well as I have,

> it kind of surprised

> me that I succumbed to this emotional eating binge? How do I control

> this in the future?

>

> Thanks,

> Mitch

>

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Mitch,

I knew a lady that was heavy and so was her Dh, they both lost a lot of

weight (atleast 70lbs each) and then had affairs on each other. She ended

up marrying the guy that she had the affair with (he cheated on his wife to

have the affair). Ok fast forward to the marriage a few years and she has

gained the weight back and then some. Her new dh also put on some pounds.

Then all the sudden 18yrs later she loses the weight again, dh starts buying

her junk foods and taking her to fancy places to eat hoping to fatten her

up, cause he fears she will leave him if she gets thin. Guess what? She

kept the weight off for a year and left him for another guy!

So yes the fear is real. And in this day and age of throw away marriages it

is very easy for someone to feel threatened. And this is a big issue.

Remember a few months back I was there? (not marriage issue) But I was

worried that I would go back to my goofy self, that was the last time I was

thinner and I was a DJ and a big time flirt......lol......I think it all

went with the job territory, but I was afraid that I would be like that

again.

Maybe you need to set limits on yourself about your journaling. Maybe in

the morning you can record some of your points and find out what your wife

is serving for dinner and go from there. Or ask her to prepare some old

standbys on MWF that you know the points for already. And you won't have to

figure points. Also maybe at a calm time you can sit down with her and

explain that you must do this the rest of your life to stay healthy.

Also you say that your wife also does WW but is not as diligent as you

(can't remember exactly how you phrased that.) Maybe she sees herself as not

doing as well as you and people are noticing it? Or maybe a girlfriend told

her " your dh is getting pretty HOT! you better watch out! " You know how

people say things. And maybe she thinks your bragging? I notice that your

posts are a bit more upbeat, maybe she just needs to get use to the new you?

I am sure that you have more confidence now and she can sense that.

Maybe you need to take her away for a weekend and ONLY pack foods that you

know the points for and don't spend a lot of time journaling because you can

plan ahead.

Hope things get better for you :o)

Moe

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I have had some reactions from my boyfriend similar to this. When I was heavier

he was less attentive and took me for granted in a way. Since I have lost

weight, he is now the boyfriend I alwasy wanted him to be. I did ask him about

this and he told me that he did used to take me for granted, he knew that my

self image kept me in the house being at his beck and call, then as I lost, my

confidence and self image was raied and all of a sudden he realized that others

thought I was beautiful too, not just him and he felt he better make me want to

be with him. Now we have the perfect relationship, and I thank WW for that

too!!

Emotional Eating

So after my weigh-in on Saturday (down a pound), I was sailing along ---

and then came

Sunday. I forgot how it all started, but my wife and I had a discussion

where she was

chastising me a bit for spending too much time in my Palm filling out my

journal or in

the closet calculating points from the food labels and not enough time

paying attention

to her. She's probably right about this as I tend to get obsessive about

things and I

need to moderate this behavior a bit. As our discussion evolved, she

confided that

while she so much wanted my success with weight loss and is very happy,

she's also

scared that my whole new image might cause me to grow away from her. I

reassured

her that she's the love of my life and that this would never happen, but

it scared me

a bit that this even crossed her mind.

After this talk, she went out with the kids for something and I just

fell apart - finished

the FF Frozen Yogurt and the regular Frozen Yogurt in the freezer,

attacked the

girl scout cookies and the leftover chocolate chip cookies from

Halloween. Wound up

using all of my remaining FP's for the week (and my week doesn't end

till Friday).

I didn't want to blow the week, so Monday morning, with 0 Flex Points

left - I resolved

that through Friday I would stick to my point target + APs (and thru

Wednesday, I've

been doing it). I expect I'll finish the week using just my 35 FP's and

no more. On my

home scale this morning, it looks like I've done no lasting damage.

However, this raises two issues: First, have others had any similar

reactions from their

spouses? Second, after having done this as long and as well as I have,

it kind of surprised

me that I succumbed to this emotional eating binge? How do I control

this in the future?

Thanks,

Mitch

--

--------------------------------

All-Time High - 300

--------------------------------

Starting Weight - 281

Lost before Re-Joining WW - 25.2

Lost since Re-Joining WW - 66.6

Total Loss - 890.8

Current Weight - 189.2

Goal - 175

Pounds to Go - 14.2

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Mitch,

I did have a somewhat similar experience with my spouse. I noticed

after I had lost 25 pounds and started working out more he often made

comments about how I was going to " get skinny " and " leave him for a

more attractive guy. " At first, I sort of blew this off, thinking he

was just being facitious. I then started to notice he was making

those types of comments a lot. I asked him about it, and he confided

that it did scare him a little. We talked about it, and I let him

know that I loved him for who he was inside, nothing else. I didn't

want anyone else, and I wasn't going anywhere. We were having some

other issues during that time (that we've since worked through) and I

think those impacted his feelings a lot, too.

Part of the problem with us was that my husband had gained quite a

bit of weight right along with me, but he wasn't trying to take it

off. That's okay, I wasn't going to force him. I think my success and

lifestyle change constantly reminded him of his faults, though, and

he didn't like that. Plus, when I started running and working out

more, he didn't want to go. That meant I was embarking on new

journeys and he was sitting at home in front of the TV. He made a

comment once that I spent more time with my running buddy and WW pals

than with him. I know he was happy for me, but he was feeling left

out, which makes people resentful.

I tried to stay patient and just continue on MY journey. I had no

intentions of leaving my husband, but I hoped he would venture into

my world eventually. It's happening now (2 years later), but only

slowly. He started WW a few weeks ago (and doing very well so far)

and he's even made comments about getting out his old mountain bike

and riding along when I run. I find that with us both on the program,

we are able to support each other and encourage each other in the

same pursuits, which is great.

I read somewhere that when a person has a lot of weight to lose, that

sometimes it is best to become a little " obsessive " about it when you

first start--it helps keep the person on track. I know I'd much

rather be obsessive about staying healthy than about eating ice

cream. And while I meticulously track my points, workout daily, and

constantly try to find new ways to improve my health and outlook, I

don't consider doing any of those as obsessive. It is what I NEED to

stay healthy. My husband respects that and loves me for improving

myself. If he didn't, then I'm afraid we would eventually grow apart.

I guess my suggestion to you would be to let your wife know you love

her, try to involve her as much as possible in your healthy pursuits

(as much as she wants to be), and remember to make her feel special

often, as one hopes she does for you.

As for controling binges, I am by far not an expert. Binge eating is

something that seems to come out of nowhere for me. What I've tried

to do is during times when I do have everything under control, I

write about what made me binge and my feelings afterward. I try to

focus on what I'll do the next time the feeling hits. Exercise,

shower, call an old friend, those are all fine ways to get food off

the mind. But if you're like me, the problem is not in having access

to the food, but it's like my mind will not let go of the craving

regardless of what I am doing or trying not to think about. With all

that pressure, I sometimes eventually cave. To me, binges are

emotional responses, therefore I try to focus on those emotions and

what triggered the pattern. If I deal with those feelings, then most

times the craving to eat a whole bag of Hershey's minatures goes

away. It is a constant battle. I remember one time I had been

perfectly on program for over six months, when I scarfed down an

entire half gallon of ice cream in one sitting -- all because I had

an argument with my mother. That was a long time ago, though. I've

gotten much better at controling my response to emotional eating, but

it is still something I deal and probably always will be.

April

> So after my weigh-in on Saturday (down a pound), I was sailing

along ---

> and then came

> Sunday. I forgot how it all started, but my wife and I had a

discussion

> where she was

> chastising me a bit for spending too much time in my Palm filling

out my

> journal or in

> the closet calculating points from the food labels and not enough

time

> paying attention

> to her. She's probably right about this as I tend to get obsessive

about

> things and I

> need to moderate this behavior a bit. As our discussion evolved,

she

> confided that

> while she so much wanted my success with weight loss and is very

happy,

> she's also

> scared that my whole new image might cause me to grow away from

her. I

> reassured

> her that she's the love of my life and that this would never

happen, but

> it scared me

> a bit that this even crossed her mind.

>

> After this talk, she went out with the kids for something and I

just

> fell apart - finished

> the FF Frozen Yogurt and the regular Frozen Yogurt in the freezer,

> attacked the

> girl scout cookies and the leftover chocolate chip cookies from

> Halloween. Wound up

> using all of my remaining FP's for the week (and my week doesn't

end

> till Friday).

>

> I didn't want to blow the week, so Monday morning, with 0 Flex

Points

> left - I resolved

> that through Friday I would stick to my point target + APs (and

thru

> Wednesday, I've

> been doing it). I expect I'll finish the week using just my 35 FP's

and

> no more. On my

> home scale this morning, it looks like I've done no lasting damage.

>

> However, this raises two issues: First, have others had any similar

> reactions from their

> spouses? Second, after having done this as long and as well as I

have,

> it kind of surprised

> me that I succumbed to this emotional eating binge? How do I

control

> this in the future?

>

> Thanks,

> Mitch

>

> --

>

> --------------------------------

> All-Time High - 300

> --------------------------------

> Starting Weight - 281

> Lost before Re-Joining WW - 25.2

> Lost since Re-Joining WW - 66.6

> Total Loss - 890.8

> Current Weight - 189.2

> Goal - 175

> Pounds to Go - 14.2

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Mitch

I think it is awesome that your wife shared this with you, and I can

also imagine that it did kind of shake you up a little bit. From what

I've read here you are a very very dedicated husband.

We all get insecure at times. Just because she was having an uncertain

moment doesn't mean she's necessarily worried about this all of the

time. I can speak only for myself, but I know that sometimes when

something is bothering me that is either too big at the time for me to

deal with, or even something I can't exactly put my finger on, my mind

will hop to the closest thing and grasp that. So, for example, if my

husband is watching TV too loudly and I am having one of my moments, I

might become irrational and say " You know I hate it when you listen to

the TV too loudly. You obviously have no respect for me because you know

how much I hate that! "

The truth is, I'm probably angry about smething else, often something

that has nothing to do with him. I just needed a lash out and that's the

path it took...almost like lightning finding the ground. It wasn't the

conduit for the energy that I needed, but it was there and I took it. (I

don't know if that makes sense, but I was teaching about electrons today

so my mind is there.)

So this MAY be an issue for her, or it may be minor but just something

that bubbled up due to other frustrations. Further discussion is really

warranted before you worry about it too much.

As for spouses leaving each other due to weight loss, it's only an

excuse. My husband has lost slower than I have. I'm at goal and have

been there for a year. Not once have I even remotely considered

comparing myself to him and saying " Wow, I can do better than this! "

Why? Because I love him. We have a very strong marriage and we respect

and love each other immensely. People who break up over something as

superficial as weight never had a strong bond to begin with, so don't

let the stories of others worry you. Only YOU can judge how closely you

and your wife are bonded. She might be feeling a little anxious over

your healthy focus, but I would be willing to bet that if you sat down

and truly talked it through from beginning to end, she is happy and

proud of you for your weight loss because you will be around longer to

leave your socks on the floor and the toilet seat up.

I guess in short (as if I could ever say anything 'in short'), I

wouldn't worry about it too much unless there is something going on

between you that you have concern about it. Weight alone is not going to

cause a marital breakup.

Tory (been married to the same cutey man for almost 19 years, and have

known him since 5th grade)

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Thanks Tory - I think, as usual, you're probably right about everything

here. We do have

a very strong marriage - and in part, I'm sure there was something else

frustrtrating her that

brought this to the surface. . It was just a bit freaky for

me to hear her voice this - as I had never thought about my weight loss

having that kind of

emotional impact on her. I just saw a glimpse of our relationship

dynamic changing

and it scared me momentarily. I know that this issue won't cause any

kind of marital breakup but

it is something we need to talk out, and we will. Communication is

always the key

I don't want anyone to get the impression that I'm

comparing how I follow program to how she does it --- just pointed that

out to give

everyone the perspective that she's never been in the same place as me

and so, she

may not fully relate to what I'm going through. I know she loves me,

though, and fully

supports my efforts - as I love & support her fully.

Anyhow, we're good for the time being, I'm OP, she's OP, we love each

other.

Thank you Tory, and everyone else, for your input on this issue.

Best,

Mitch

Tory K wrote:

>Mitch

>

>I think it is awesome that your wife shared this with you, and I can

>also imagine that it did kind of shake you up a little bit. From what

>I've read here you are a very very dedicated husband.

>

>We all get insecure at times. Just because she was having an uncertain

>moment doesn't mean she's necessarily worried about this all of the

>time. I can speak only for myself, but I know that sometimes when

>something is bothering me that is either too big at the time for me to

>deal with, or even something I can't exactly put my finger on, my mind

>will hop to the closest thing and grasp that. So, for example, if my

>husband is watching TV too loudly and I am having one of my moments, I

>might become irrational and say " You know I hate it when you listen to

>the TV too loudly. You obviously have no respect for me because you know

>how much I hate that! "

>

>The truth is, I'm probably angry about smething else, often something

>that has nothing to do with him. I just needed a lash out and that's the

>path it took...almost like lightning finding the ground. It wasn't the

>conduit for the energy that I needed, but it was there and I took it. (I

>don't know if that makes sense, but I was teaching about electrons today

>so my mind is there.)

>

>So this MAY be an issue for her, or it may be minor but just something

>that bubbled up due to other frustrations. Further discussion is really

>warranted before you worry about it too much.

>

>As for spouses leaving each other due to weight loss, it's only an

>excuse. My husband has lost slower than I have. I'm at goal and have

>been there for a year. Not once have I even remotely considered

>comparing myself to him and saying " Wow, I can do better than this! "

>Why? Because I love him. We have a very strong marriage and we respect

>and love each other immensely. People who break up over something as

>superficial as weight never had a strong bond to begin with, so don't

>let the stories of others worry you. Only YOU can judge how closely you

>and your wife are bonded. She might be feeling a little anxious over

>your healthy focus, but I would be willing to bet that if you sat down

>and truly talked it through from beginning to end, she is happy and

>proud of you for your weight loss because you will be around longer to

>leave your socks on the floor and the toilet seat up.

>

>I guess in short (as if I could ever say anything 'in short'), I

>wouldn't worry about it too much unless there is something going on

>between you that you have concern about it. Weight alone is not going to

>cause a marital breakup.

>

>Tory (been married to the same cutey man for almost 19 years, and have

>known him since 5th grade)

>

>

>

>

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Mitch,

I'm sorry I didn't respond to your post sooner, but so many others gave so

many good thoughts that I can't think of anything else constructive to add! I

think Moe had a wonderful idea, sending your wife flowers or something similar

while you are away would be a great way of telling you that you love her and

are thinking about her while you can't be there.

As long as the lines of communication are open and you guys address things

before they have the chance to become big issues is the key. I think that the

fact that felt comfortable enough to express her feelings with you is a

great sign that those lines are open.

Best wishes to you both,

" Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs need to relax and

get used to the idea. "

- A. Heinlein

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& Moe,

Done. Flowers are on order for delivery Monday. Thanks for the

suggestion.

, yes, we do have open communication. Nothing is so big an

issue that we

can't talk it out .

Mitch

JMT3781@... wrote:

>Mitch,

>

>I'm sorry I didn't respond to your post sooner, but so many others gave so

>many good thoughts that I can't think of anything else constructive to add! I

>think Moe had a wonderful idea, sending your wife flowers or something similar

>while you are away would be a great way of telling you that you love her and

>are thinking about her while you can't be there.

>

>As long as the lines of communication are open and you guys address things

>before they have the chance to become big issues is the key. I think that the

>fact that felt comfortable enough to express her feelings with you is a

>great sign that those lines are open.

>

>Best wishes to you both,

>

>

> " Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs need to relax and

>get used to the idea. "

>

>- A. Heinlein

>

>

>

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In a message dated 12/6/2003 1:39:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,

msteechur@... writes:

Being a type-a, over-acheiver,

perfectionist, anal-retentive nutball makes me want to FORCE others to

do it my way.

Hey, you sound like ME!

" Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs need to relax and

get used to the idea. "

- A. Heinlein

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Mitch

My husband and I are the same way. I measure and weigh everything. I am

much further along in my journey. I work out harder and freak out more

if something throws me near the off-program edge.

But that's just how we are in all things. I'm the type who jumps in with

both feet. I get obsessive and ompulsive about it. I enjoy attacking

things like that. I set goals and I sprint towards them.

He is also a goal setter, but he more meanders towards them. He takes

the scenic route. He enjoys doing things THAT way. For me, it would make

me crazy. I don't work that way because that doesn't fulfill me. He

doesn't work my way because it wouldn't fulfill him. We balance each

other well and while there are times when one questions the other, for

the most part we love and accept that we are two different people who

attack things different ways and try to appreciate that in others.

So I totally understand where you're coming from. I don't judge Roy in

his journey because I know he has to do it his way. I'll be honest. It

took me awhile to get to this point. Being a type-a, over-acheiver,

perfectionist, anal-retentive nutball makes me want to FORCE others to

do it my way. But over the years I've come to appreciate the way he does

things and the way it balances me out. Honestly together we make the

greatest team. Without my drive he might take forever to make a

decision. Without his careful thinking things through and taking time, I

might jump headlong into something I'll regret later.

We're lucky to have such wonderful spouses, I think.

> Re: Emotional Eating

>

>

> Thanks Tory - I think, as usual, you're probably right about

> everything

> here. We do have

> a very strong marriage - and in part, I'm sure there was

> something else

> frustrtrating her that

> brought this to the surface. . It was just a bit freaky for

> me to hear her voice this - as I had never thought about my

> weight loss

> having that kind of

> emotional impact on her. I just saw a glimpse of our relationship

> dynamic changing

> and it scared me momentarily. I know that this issue won't cause any

> kind of marital breakup but

> it is something we need to talk out, and we will. Communication is

> always the key

>

> I don't want anyone to get the impression that I'm

> comparing how I follow program to how she does it --- just

> pointed that

> out to give

> everyone the perspective that she's never been in the same

> place as me

> and so, she

> may not fully relate to what I'm going through. I know she loves me,

> though, and fully

> supports my efforts - as I love & support her fully.

>

> Anyhow, we're good for the time being, I'm OP, she's OP, we

> love each

> other.

> Thank you Tory, and everyone else, for your input on this issue.

>

> Best,

> Mitch

>

>

> Tory K wrote:

>

> >Mitch

> >

> >I think it is awesome that your wife shared this with you, and I can

> >also imagine that it did kind of shake you up a little bit.

> From what

> >I've read here you are a very very dedicated husband.

> >

> >We all get insecure at times. Just because she was having an

> uncertain

> >moment doesn't mean she's necessarily worried about this all of the

> >time. I can speak only for myself, but I know that sometimes when

> >something is bothering me that is either too big at the time

> for me to

> >deal with, or even something I can't exactly put my finger

> on, my mind

> >will hop to the closest thing and grasp that. So, for example, if my

> >husband is watching TV too loudly and I am having one of my

> moments, I

> >might become irrational and say " You know I hate it when you

> listen to

> >the TV too loudly. You obviously have no respect for me because you

> >know how much I hate that! "

> >

> >The truth is, I'm probably angry about smething else, often

> something

> >that has nothing to do with him. I just needed a lash out and that's

> >the path it took...almost like lightning finding the ground.

> It wasn't

> >the conduit for the energy that I needed, but it was there

> and I took

> >it. (I don't know if that makes sense, but I was teaching about

> >electrons today so my mind is there.)

> >

> >So this MAY be an issue for her, or it may be minor but just

> something

> >that bubbled up due to other frustrations. Further

> discussion is really

> >warranted before you worry about it too much.

> >

> >As for spouses leaving each other due to weight loss, it's only an

> >excuse. My husband has lost slower than I have. I'm at goal and have

> >been there for a year. Not once have I even remotely considered

> >comparing myself to him and saying " Wow, I can do better than this! "

> >Why? Because I love him. We have a very strong marriage and

> we respect

> >and love each other immensely. People who break up over something as

> >superficial as weight never had a strong bond to begin with,

> so don't

> >let the stories of others worry you. Only YOU can judge how

> closely you

> >and your wife are bonded. She might be feeling a little anxious over

> >your healthy focus, but I would be willing to bet that if

> you sat down

> >and truly talked it through from beginning to end, she is happy and

> >proud of you for your weight loss because you will be around

> longer to

> >leave your socks on the floor and the toilet seat up.

> >

> >I guess in short (as if I could ever say anything 'in short'), I

> >wouldn't worry about it too much unless there is something going on

> >between you that you have concern about it. Weight alone is

> not going

> >to cause a marital breakup.

> >

> >Tory (been married to the same cutey man for almost 19

> years, and have

> >known him since 5th grade)

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> Re: Emotional Eating

>

>

> In a message dated 12/6/2003 1:39:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> msteechur@... writes:

> Being a type-a, over-acheiver,

> perfectionist, anal-retentive nutball makes me want to FORCE

> others to do it my way. Hey, you sound like ME!

>

>

>

> " Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs need

> to relax and

> get used to the idea. "

>

> - A. Heinlein

>

>

>

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