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Hi Lois!

Here's my soapbox stand on metal ions:

It seems that one person opined that there might be a problem with

elevated levels of metal ions - and the whole " anti-resurf "

community jumped on the bandwagon. And yes - there *should* be some

sort of data from the BHR folks if there was a correlation since it

wears about the same as the 2 devices in the US. So far, there has

been nothing definitive published. I keep an eye out for new info -

but I sure don't lose any sleep over it.

The absolute, ONLY consideration I give to the possible elevated

metal levels in my body is the fact that I now wear gloves when

soldering stained glass (lead being a far bigger scare than cobalt

or chromium). Perhaps if you worked in a foundry for years, you

might want to ponder the ion issue a bit more.....

And even if someone actually produces hard data showing a problem

with metal ions - I'm STILL not going to fret. If I didn't have

this wonderful hip, I'd be perfectly miserable. At the risk of

being " dark " - I'd rather die young, happy, and active than live a

long time in a wheelchair :) But I have a strong suspicion that my

new, energetic lifestyle is actually going to increase my

lifespan?! And in the meantime, I'm loving every second of my

reborn life!!!

Best wishes!

Deb C+ 5-2-02

> Hi all. First of all, thanks to all who answered me about my east

> coast surgeon question. I really do want the resurf. However,the

> possibility of cancer from metal ions down the road scares the

> bejeebers out of me. I've lost far too many people of all ages in

my

> family to that disease, and always take as much care as I can to

> avoid risky behavior. Even tho there's nothing to truly indicate a

> problem down the road, it makes my decision harder.

> My question is this: Since the Brits/Belgians etc have been doing

> this for so many years, can't the data on their devices be

applicable

> to what we can expect? Is there something about their devices

that

> is that different from ours? (other than manufacturer, obviously).

>

> As so many others have stated, thank you all so much. The info

I've

> gathered on this board has been invaluable. I feel positively

> ancient, feeble, sore, afraid and angry, and being a member of

this

> board gives me solace that I'm not alone, and comfort that I still

> have some life coming up if I can only MAKE THIS DAMN DECISION!!!

> Another question: - did everyone have to wear TED's?

>

> Thanks again

> Lois (the other)

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McMinns resurfers wear teds.

Also - investigate what happens in a THR due to the increased likelihood

of bone marrow getting into the bloodstream.

" bird_nutty " on 08/05/2003 13:06:17

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Devices and ions

Hi all. First of all, thanks to all who answered me about my east

coast surgeon question. I really do want the resurf. However,the

possibility of cancer from metal ions down the road scares the

bejeebers out of me. I've lost far too many people of all ages in my

family to that disease, and always take as much care as I can to

avoid risky behavior. Even tho there's nothing to truly indicate a

problem down the road, it makes my decision harder.

My question is this: Since the Brits/Belgians etc have been doing

this for so many years, can't the data on their devices be applicable

to what we can expect? Is there something about their devices that

is that different from ours? (other than manufacturer, obviously).

As so many others have stated, thank you all so much. The info I've

gathered on this board has been invaluable. I feel positively

ancient, feeble, sore, afraid and angry, and being a member of this

board gives me solace that I'm not alone, and comfort that I still

have some life coming up if I can only MAKE THIS DAMN DECISION!!!

Another question: - did everyone have to wear TED's?

Thanks again

Lois (the other)

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Dr. DeSmet has his patient wear TEDS. I had a bilateral and was told

to wear mine 24 hr a day for the first three weeks, and then at night

time for the fourth week.

Also, Metal Ions have been a topic here for a long time. If you have

the time, search this site for " Metal Ions " or " Ions " ,...etc and

you'll have your answers.

Michigandar Mike

Bilateral, Dr. DeSmet, April 1, 2003

> Hi all. First of all, thanks to all who answered me about my east

> coast surgeon question. I really do want the resurf. However,the

> possibility of cancer from metal ions down the road scares the

> bejeebers out of me. I've lost far too many people of all ages in

my

> family to that disease, and always take as much care as I can to

> avoid risky behavior. Even tho there's nothing to truly indicate a

> problem down the road, it makes my decision harder.

> My question is this: Since the Brits/Belgians etc have been doing

> this for so many years, can't the data on their devices be

applicable

> to what we can expect? Is there something about their devices that

> is that different from ours? (other than manufacturer, obviously).

>

> As so many others have stated, thank you all so much. The info

I've

> gathered on this board has been invaluable. I feel positively

> ancient, feeble, sore, afraid and angry, and being a member of this

> board gives me solace that I'm not alone, and comfort that I still

> have some life coming up if I can only MAKE THIS DAMN DECISION!!!

> Another question: - did everyone have to wear TED's?

>

> Thanks again

> Lois (the other)

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- you're a sweetie!! Thanks for the hard facts :)

Deb

> > Hi all. First of all, thanks to all who answered me about my

east

> > coast surgeon question. I really do want the resurf.

However,the

> > possibility of cancer from metal ions down the road scares the

> > bejeebers out of me. I've lost far too many people of all

ages in

> my

> > family to that disease, and always take as much care as I can

to

> > avoid risky behavior. Even tho there's nothing to truly

indicate a

> > problem down the road, it makes my decision harder.

> > My question is this: Since the Brits/Belgians etc have been

doing

> > this for so many years, can't the data on their devices be

> applicable

> > to what we can expect? Is there something about their devices

> that

> > is that different from ours? (other than manufacturer,

obviously).

> >

> > As so many others have stated, thank you all so much. The

info

> I've

> > gathered on this board has been invaluable. I feel positively

> > ancient, feeble, sore, afraid and angry, and being a member of

> this

> > board gives me solace that I'm not alone, and comfort that I

still

> > have some life coming up if I can only MAKE THIS DAMN

DECISION!!!

> > Another question: - did everyone have to wear TED's?

> >

> > Thanks again

> > Lois (the other)

>

>

>

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Deb,

Calling me sweetie may get the others talking but I don't mind. When a bloke

gets over 50 he needs this sort of booooooost. You may if you wish call it me

more often.

The facts that were posted reinforce what you were saying darling :)

Sweetie

Re: Devices and ions

- you're a sweetie!! Thanks for the hard facts :)

Deb

> > Hi all. First of all, thanks to all who answered me about my

east

> > coast surgeon question. I really do want the resurf.

However,the

> > possibility of cancer from metal ions down the road scares the

> > bejeebers out of me. I've lost far too many people of all

ages in

> my

> > family to that disease, and always take as much care as I can

to

> > avoid risky behavior. Even tho there's nothing to truly

indicate a

> > problem down the road, it makes my decision harder.

> > My question is this: Since the Brits/Belgians etc have been

doing

> > this for so many years, can't the data on their devices be

> applicable

> > to what we can expect? Is there something about their devices

> that

> > is that different from ours? (other than manufacturer,

obviously).

> >

> > As so many others have stated, thank you all so much. The

info

> I've

> > gathered on this board has been invaluable. I feel positively

> > ancient, feeble, sore, afraid and angry, and being a member of

> this

> > board gives me solace that I'm not alone, and comfort that I

still

> > have some life coming up if I can only MAKE THIS DAMN

DECISION!!!

> > Another question: - did everyone have to wear TED's?

> >

> > Thanks again

> > Lois (the other)

>

>

>

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Oh honey - let 'em talk! I'm over 50, too!

Deb

> > > Hi all. First of all, thanks to all who answered me about

my

> east

> > > coast surgeon question. I really do want the resurf.

> However,the

> > > possibility of cancer from metal ions down the road scares

the

> > > bejeebers out of me. I've lost far too many people of all

> ages in

> > my

> > > family to that disease, and always take as much care as I

can

> to

> > > avoid risky behavior. Even tho there's nothing to truly

> indicate a

> > > problem down the road, it makes my decision harder.

> > > My question is this: Since the Brits/Belgians etc have

been

> doing

> > > this for so many years, can't the data on their devices be

> > applicable

> > > to what we can expect? Is there something about their

devices

> > that

> > > is that different from ours? (other than manufacturer,

> obviously).

> > >

> > > As so many others have stated, thank you all so much. The

> info

> > I've

> > > gathered on this board has been invaluable. I feel

positively

> > > ancient, feeble, sore, afraid and angry, and being a

member of

> > this

> > > board gives me solace that I'm not alone, and comfort that

I

> still

> > > have some life coming up if I can only MAKE THIS DAMN

> DECISION!!!

> > > Another question: - did everyone have to wear TED's?

> > >

> > > Thanks again

> > > Lois (the other)

> >

> >

> >

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