Re: New with questions: HC and temperatures and monthly cycles

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1. How does the daily temperature charting (Dr. Rind) look considering a

woman's regular

monthly temperature changes (fertility charting)? Is it only the Basal

temperature that

drops before ovulating, and during the day temps return to normal?

It should change for the menstrual cycle. but it is a big change day period

starts then very gradula the rest of the month. It does seem to mostly average

out during the whole day with just a slight lower pre-period and higher second

half of cycle.

2. Why does Peatfeald's book say 98.4 is normal when here and everywhere else

I've

always read 98.6?

Are you certain he is not talking abotu basal temps? I have not heard of 98.4

being normal adn I listen to Broda whi did 30 years of research into

temps and hypothyroidism.

3. I would find it encouraging to hear from women who've actually seen their

temps

stabilize by finding the right HC dose. (Nothing against guys it's just the

ovulation pattern

that's confusing me right now.) And do I really need to wait until they do

before starting

to up my Armour a little bit (to 1 grain, from 1/2), or if I'm to 15mgHC & up is

that enough

to add the next 1/2 grain? Dr. says go for it but I'm not so sure.

My temps are very stable for the last year but I had a Hyst a long time ago so

have no cycles ot interfere at all.

4. What's the best way to dose with 5mg capsules of " c-cortisol extended

release " ?

5. One other question about Pregnenelone & DHEA. Teitlebaum (Fatigued to

Fantastic)

reccommends DHEA supplementation as does Peatfield: I tried 5MG for the last 3

days

and am not so sure. So I thought to try Pregnenelone instead, but can't find

anywhere a

recommended dose for that: I bought 10mg capsules, the smallest I could find,

and

thought I'd try it for a week to see how I feel. Any body with experience with

Pregnenolone? Should I be doing that before upping Armour? one of Chris'

stickies at the

hypopit forum says he thinks DHEA needs to be stabilized before thyroid

hormones, but it

looks like a couple of you here have had trouble with the other adrenal hormones

just

worsening an estrogen imbalance.

I am a frim believer in supplementing ONLY what you are low in. If you have high

DHEA DO NOT take more! If your DHEA is below mid-range I would take 5-20MG

daily, itf it si below range or at the bottom up to 25MG daily for women. Low

cortisol causes high estrogen. High DHEA usually causes higher estrogen but that

is HIGH DhEA not normal levels thus why you should not take it if your levels

are normal to high.

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> 1. How does the daily temperature charting (Dr. Rind) look

considering a woman's regular

> monthly temperature changes (fertility charting)? Is it only the

Basal temperature that

> drops before ovulating, and during the day temps return to

normal?

>

> It should change for the menstrual cycle. but it is a big change

day period starts then very gradula the rest of the month. It does

seem to mostly average out during the whole day with just a slight

lower pre-period and higher second half of cycle.

>

Val, this brings up a question for me. I had a hysterectomy last

year, but still have my ovaries. So, theoretically, I still have a

cycle even though I am not aware of it. Will I be able to tell the

difference between a cylce variation and a cortisol variation when

tracking my temps?

[Guest guest]

>>Will I be able to tell the

difference between a cylce variation and a cortisol variation when

tracking my temps?<<

possibly, but there may be little to no variation now. What they don;t tell you

is when this type of Hyst is done the circulation ot the ovaries is cu toff and

they usually die in a few months to a year anyway, so you may well be having low

sex hormone symotomks as well by now.

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> >>Will I be able to tell the

> difference between a cylce variation and a cortisol variation when

> tracking my temps?<<

>

> possibly, but there may be little to no variation now. What they

don;t tell you is when this type of Hyst is done the circulation ot

the ovaries is cu toff and they usually die in a few months to a

year anyway, so you may well be having low sex hormone symotomks as

well by now.

>

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Val, How would I know if this had happened? Just by my hormone

levels or by symptoms? These were my values as of last month:

Saliva Results:

Free Testosterone: >200 Elevated (normal: 8-20 pg/ml)

Estradiol: 11

Estriol: 7

Progesterone: 133

Can you tell anything by those?

Thanks,

English

[Guest guest]

>>Free Testosterone: >200 Elevated (normal: 8-20 pg/ml)

Estradiol: 11

Estriol: 7

Progesterone: 133<<

I would need the ranges but do you have any idea why your testosterone should be

so high?

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> >>Free Testosterone: >200 Elevated (normal: 8-20 pg/ml)

> Estradiol: 11

> Estriol: 7

> Progesterone: 133<<

>

> I would need the ranges but do you have any idea why your

testosterone should be so high?

>

Here are the ranges, I left the HRT Target Ranges of since I'm not

on HRT:

Estradiol: 11 Post Meno-No HRT: 1-4pg/ml

Follicular: 5-13pg/ml

Luteal: 7-20pg/ml

Estriol: 7 Post Meno-No HRT: 7-18pg/ml

Cycling Female: 12-25 pg/ml

Progesterone: 133 Post Meno-No HRT: 5-95pg/ml

Follicular: 20-100pg/ml

Luteal: 65-500pg/ml

My doctor was also wondering about that high Testosterone number and

had me retested. I am waiting for the results, but I am thinking

that it must have been a typo.

Thanks,

English

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>>My doctor was also wondering about that high Testosterone number and

had me retested. I am waiting for the results, but I am thinking

that it must have been a typo.<<

Let us know what this turns out!

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[Guest guest]

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> 5. One other question about Pregnenelone & DHEA. Teitlebaum (Fatigued to

Fantastic)

> reccommends DHEA supplementation as does Peatfield: I tried 5MG for the last

3 days

> and am not so sure. So I thought to try Pregnenelone instead, but can't find

anywhere a

> recommended dose for that: I bought 10mg capsules, the smallest I could find,

and

> thought I'd try it for a week to see how I feel. Any body with experience

with

> Pregnenolone? Should I be doing that before upping Armour? one of Chris'

stickies at

the

> hypopit forum says he thinks DHEA needs to be stabilized before thyroid

hormones, but

it

> looks like a couple of you here have had trouble with the other adrenal

hormones just

> worsening an estrogen imbalance.

>

> I am a frim believer in supplementing ONLY what you are low in. If you have

high DHEA

DO NOT take more! If your DHEA is below mid-range I would take 5-20MG daily, itf

it si

below range or at the bottom up to 25MG daily for women. Low cortisol causes

high

estrogen. High DHEA usually causes higher estrogen but that is HIGH DhEA not

normal

levels thus why you should not take it if your levels are normal to high.

>

Hi Val, thanks for the response on this and and about the menstrual temp

fluctuations. So

what is a good range for DHEA? Strangely enough I can't seem to find a number

anywhere.

I'm 30, I was at 9.9 in a range of 2 to 23 -- is that high already?

Wow, I looked at your pictures . . . it's unreal how different they are! You

look wonderful

now. It's a great encouragement.

Lia

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>

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>>I'm 30, I was at 9.9 in a range of 2 to 23 -- is that high already? <<

The reason you cannot find a range for DHEA is that it is age dependent. At your

age, I would want it to be higher near 2/3 of the range.

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